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Christianity Etc↝ Seeing The Standing By Seeking The Understanding ↜ by PCHC(op): 10:55pm On Feb 16, 2025
SEEING THE STANDING BY SEEKING THE UNDERSTANDING ↜

[Daniel 8:15 KJV] — "And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man."

[Daniel 8:15 YLT] — "And it cometh to pass in my seeing—I, Daniel—the vision, that I require understanding, and lo, standing over-against me is as the appearance of a mighty one."

[Daniel 8:15 AMP] — "When I, Daniel, had seen the vision, I sought to understand it; then behold, standing before me was one who looked like a man."

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He, Daniel, saw the vision, sought the understanding, and suddenly saw a man-like one standing before him. There was Vision, but also there was Appearance: and there was no understanding, but there was a standing. No understanding, but there came a standing of a man-like one to give understanding. In this place, standing came to serve understanding, and the man who stood was to ensure Daniel understood. We will get to the subsequent verse or couple of verses, where even though Daniel was not standing but had fallen, the priority was not to get Daniel standing but to get Daniel understanding. In this verse, we know the name of the vision-seer as “Daniel,” in the next bible verse following this we will know the name of the man-alike in appearance mighty one who stood before Daniel as “Gabriel” assigned to give understanding to Daniel, and then in the next verse after that, we will see Daniel fallen before Gabriel, but Gabriel telling the fallen Daniel to understand (instead of to stand).

Understand what between “The Vision” or “the Appearance?” The appearance was like a man to a man, and there was not much mystery left there for a man like Daniel to understand a fellow man from glory. But the vision on the other hand was not in the likeness of a man, but in likeness of beasts such as Ram, He-Goat, Horns, Abomination and Desolation, without human face or figure: Thus, there was much mystery to understand concerning the vision Daniel saw, compared to the appearance of the man standing before Daniel and communing with him.

Though the scriptures in Proverbs taught us to go to the ants, as well as going to other animals and created things, for understanding and wisdom. Behold in this bible verse in red, the greatest imagery or appearance to seek for understanding is among man-likes and man-kinds. Wisdom, which is Understanding, mostly comes as a man or woman, either in likeness or in kindness, to mankind seeking Wisdom or Understanding.

Behold and learn from Daniel, who though he saw such great vision, yet sought understanding and in his seeking or quest for understanding Gabriel stood before him in the appearance of a man. Therefore, being diligent in your business may make a man stand before kings, but seeking understanding beyond merely seeing a vision will make kings and Angels stand before a man. In all your getting, get understanding (Proverbs 4:7). A man of understanding is of excellent spirit as was found in Daniel (Proverbs 17:27).

The structure of the bible verse in red shows that vision alone is not enough; meaning (understanding) must be pursued from and for the vision. In seeking true understanding, there is no Stagnation. If you are not seeking understanding or meaning of an opportunity or vision, you may misinterpret its value: Usually, this results in a situation where, though a mentor stands before you (as Gabriel stood before Daniel), but you will ignore them and you lose wisdom and grace. Those who seek shall find, but those who do not seek will lose even what they found.

⁂ God grants visions, but understanding requires seeking. Daniel, despite being a prophet and having understanding in dreams and visions, did not immediately grasp the vision’s meaning, showing that even the spiritually enlightened must pursue wisdom or seek understanding. The presence of a man-like figure suggests divine intervention, the angel, reinforcing the idea that God's messages often require interpreters.

⁂ Seeing does not automatically mean understanding: Don’t judge things based on seeing alone. Many people encounter truth but fail to grasp its depth. This aligns with the Socratic principle that wisdom begins with recognizing one's own ignorance. Daniel's inquiry symbolizes the human struggle to comprehend reality beyond surface appearances.

⁂ The act of “seeking” suggests that truth is not always obvious—it is hidden, waiting to be unveiled by those who pursue it diligently. Many people have visions—whether in the form of dreams, goals, or opportunities—but without seeking deeper understanding, they remain confused or misdirected. Confusion is not necessarily a lack of vision or opportunities, but confusion is a lack of understanding. Many seers and many who have visions are confused even with their visions and revelations, because of lack of understanding. In seeing, you see but do not perceive or understand.
Christianity Etc↝ When The Wall Collapsed, These Were Exposed ↜ by PCHC(op): 12:25am On Feb 15, 2025
↝ WHEN THE WALL COLLAPSED, THESE WERE EXPOSED ↜

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIWz7l5C7P4?feature=shared

[Ezekiel 13:12 BSB] — And when the wall has fallen, will you not be asked, ‘Where is the whitewash with which you covered it?’

[Ezekiel 13:12 GNB] — The wall will collapse, and everyone will ask you what good the whitewash did."

[Ezekiel 13:12 AFV] — And, behold, when the wall has fallen, shall it not be said to you, 'Where is the whitewash with which you have covered it?' "

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The Nature of Whitewash: A False Covering

The difference between the “Handwriting on the wall” and the “Whitewash on the wall” is that the one exposes the truth on the wall, while the other blurs or masks the truth on the wall. Whitewash is not strength. It does not reinforce a wall, nor can it withstand the force of truth. It is a mask, an external layer that disguises the rot beneath. When divine judgment comes, the covering is stripped away, and what remains is the truth—naked and undeniable.

What good is the plaster or paint on the wall that collapsed and could not stand the test of the day of battle? Plaster, paint or whitewash is finishing, which is basically outward appearance aesthetics or cosmetics. Concentrate on building the inwards and structures to be strong enough to withstand the storm, more than putting values on the cosmetics and superficial appearances.

When the wall has fallen, those pastors and prophets will be asked, “What good or value was the whitewash, the coating, the painting?” What good, value or profit were the false prosperities, riches, carnal things, etc., that the pastors and prophets used in whitewashing the people who cannot stand the trials and judgment of God? What good was the thirty pieces of silver to Judas Iscariot, after he sold his Savior and killed himself? He did not even consider giving the money to the poor he pretended to be caring about, when he suggested selling the Anointing of the Lord’s body.

Yes, "whitewash" in today's gospels or messages refers to superficial teachings, deceptive doctrines, or compromised messages that cover up spiritual weakness and deadness instead of strengthening believers in truth and life in Christ Jesus. Here are some practical examples:

1. Prosperity Gospel without Repentance and Righteousness
Many preachers today emphasize wealth, success, and financial breakthroughs as proof of God’s blessing but fail to teach about sin, repentance, and holiness. They promise that giving money to their ministries will result in miraculous financial gains, but they neglect the truth that God calls His people to seek the kingdom that is not of this world and live righteously first.
⁂ Truth: "Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you." (Matthew 6:33)
⁂ Whitewash: "Sow a seed of $1,000 and God will make you a millionaire!"

2. Motivational Preaching Without the Gospel
Some churches have turned into self-help centers, preaching positivity, self-confidence, and achieving dreams, while avoiding the core message of salvation through Christ. Sermons sound like TED Talks instead of the Word of God.
⁂ Truth: "If anyone would come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow Me." (Luke 9:23)
⁂ Whitewash: "God wants you to be your best self! Just believe in yourself!"

3. Hyper-Grace without Accountability
Some false teachers preach a grace that excuses sin, saying that once you are saved, it does not matter how you live. They reject any teaching about obedience, repentance, or the fear of the Lord.
⁂ Truth: "Shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? God forbid!" (Romans 6:1-2)
⁂ Whitewash: "Don't worry about sin! God loves you just the way you are, and you don’t need to change."

4. False Unity without Biblical Truth
Many today emphasize "love" and "unity" at the expense of biblical doctrine. They promote tolerance of all lifestyles and beliefs, even those clearly against God’s Word.
⁂ Truth: "What fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)
⁂ Whitewash: "Let’s not judge anyone. We all worship the same God in different ways."

5. Entertainment-Focused Worship Instead of God-Centered Worship
Some churches focus more on emotional experiences, concerts, and performances than on leading people into true worship and deep relationship with God. The goal becomes making people feel good, rather than convicting them to draw closer to God.
⁂ Truth: "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth." (John 4:24)
⁂ Whitewash: "As long as the music is great and the atmosphere is exciting, God must be here!"

You knew men look at the outward appearance but God looks at the heart and the hidden things, yet you think because men, who only see the outward, approved your whitewash that God will judge your works based on men’s reviews, approvals or comments?

[Luke 16:14-15 ESV] — The Pharisees, who were lovers of money, heard all these things, and they ridiculed Him. And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

In the top bible verse in red, when the wall built by foolish pastors and prophets has fallen, no one will seek the whitewash but everyone will probe the whitewash. The question will arise about it without the quest for it: The probe is the question that is not a quest, an inquest that is not a request concerning the whitewash.

Therefore the fall of the wall is both an event and an exposure. This exposure by the fall or collapse of the wall will not only expose the foundation but also expose the whitewash as well as the wall behind the mask of the whitewash. The illusion of strength vanishes, revealing the frailty that was always there. The leaders who built their kingdoms on falsehood will have no answer when asked about the whitewash they used to cover lies. The deception that once blinded many will be evident to all. When the whitewashed wall crumbles beneath the torrents of judgment, the unavoidable question remains: Where is the whitewash? Where is the covering that once concealed weakness and deceit?
Christianity Etc↝ Hail To The Fall Of These Walls Of Prophets And Pastors ↜ by PCHC(op): 11:28pm On Feb 13, 2025
↝ HAIL TO THE FALL OF THESE WALLS OF PROPHETS AND PASTORS ↜
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K77IqLojDcA?feature=shared

[Ezekiel 13:11 GNB] — Tell the prophets that their wall is going to fall down. I will send a pouring rain. Hailstones will fall on it, and a strong wind will blow against it.

[Ezekiel 13:11 ERV] — Tell them that I will send hail and a strong rain. The wind will blow hard, and a tornado will come. Then the wall will fall down.

[Ezekiel 13:11 BSB] — tell those whitewashing the wall that it will fall. Rain will come in torrents, I will send hailstones plunging down, and a windstorm will burst forth.

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In this bible verse in red, it is not the wall of Jericho that will fall down; rather it is the wall of the whitewashing prophets and pastors that shall fall down. For the Lord opposes their structurally deficient building and walls with His strong wind, storm and hailstones, determined to crumble the whitewashed walls of foolish prophets and foolish pastors.

These are the leaders who construct walls of illusion, propping up their own authority with doctrines of deception and words of flattery. But their whitewashed walls are weak, for they are not built upon the solid foundation of truth but upon the shifting sands of human manipulation and deceit.

The Lord Himself declares that He will test these fragile structures, sending forth torrents of rain, mighty hailstones, and a raging windstorm. These are divine forces of judgment, elements that no amount of whitewashing or pretension can withstand. The walls erected by deceitful leaders will not endure the scrutiny of divine righteousness. They will collapse, exposing the feebleness of their construction and the emptiness of their words.

[Amos 6:11 ESV] — For behold, the LORD commands, and the great house shall be struck down into fragments, and the little house into bits.

No amount of prophesying or declarations will make what is unacceptable to God become acceptable by mere whitewashing and flattering the people with false gospels. And no amount of effort put in to secure lies and falsehood within shall stand.

The decree of the Lord is absolute: no structure founded upon deception will stand. Whether great or small, whether the grand mansion of a renowned false teacher or the modest house of an obscure deceiver, all shall fall under the weight of divine judgment. For in true judgment, it is not the size of the structure that determines its endurance but the integrity of its foundation, as well as faithfulness in the Spirit and truth of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Behold the Futility of Falsehood, even when the falsehood is found even inside gospels or prophecies. The Word of God without goodness, mercy or prosperity will still remain the Word of God; but the Word of God without Truth or Faithfulness in the Lord Jesus Christ cannot be the Word of God, but becomes falsehood, deception and seduction.

No amount of prophesying or declarations will make what is unacceptable to God become acceptable. No layer of whitewash can change the nature of a crumbling wall. False gospels that flatter and tickle the ears of men are but fragile facades, destined to collapse. Do not forget this, the “Hail” the LORD is determined to send will not be like “Hail Mary” but rather the Hail is “Hail Stones.”

[Haggai 2:17 GNB] — I sent scorching winds and hail to ruin everything you tried to grow, but still you did not repent.

No walls or cities built by men can withstand the coming Hail in the day of the Battle of the Lord: Only the Walls and City of Truth built on the Lord Jesus Christ shall endure, while all other cities of men shall fall under the weight of the Hail that descends like rain and wind upon them.

[Revelation 16:19-21 GW] — The important city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. God remembered to give Babylon the Great the cup of wine from his fierce anger. Every island vanished, and the mountains could no longer be seen. Large, heavy hailstones fell from the sky on people. The people cursed God because the plague of hail was such a terrible plague.

These deceptive teachings create a sense of security, yet they are a trap for the unwary. Those who take refuge in them will find themselves exposed when the storm of truth comes. For lies cannot shelter the soul, and deception cannot protect against the wrath of a just God.

In case I did not make the message clear, here is rephrased version:

The Hail of the LORD God, which He has stored up in the treasuries of heaven as weapons of mass destruction to be deployed in the day of battle and war on earth, according to “Job 38:22-23,” comes as Hailstones, and not as Hail-Mary upon the works of men in the world in the day of battle of Judgment of the LORD. No building built outside the Foundation and Truth of the Lord Jesus Christ shall withstand or stand thereafter. The Foundation is not just the Truth, but the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God as the Truth and the only Foundation that secures all buildings built on Him. The Foundation is the Person of Christ, and not just the Truth of Christ. He alone as the Foundation is the security against the Sweeping Hail to come. As it is written,

[Isaiah 28:16-18 AFV] — Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I place in Zion a Stone for a foundation, a tried Stone, a precious Cornerstone, a sure Foundation; he who believes shall not be ashamed. Also I will make justice the line, and righteousness the plummet; and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. And your covenant with death shall be annulled, and your agreement with the grave shall not stand; when the overwhelming scourge shall pass through, then you shall be beaten down."

[1 Corinthians 3:11 GNB] — For God has already placed Jesus Christ as the one and only foundation, and no other foundation can be laid.
Christianity Etc↝ Daniel 8:14 – Understanding The Prophetic Timelines Of Temple Restoration ↜ by PCHC(op): 2:01am On Feb 13, 2025
↝ DANIEL 8:14 – UNDERSTANDING THE PROPHETIC TIMELINES OF TEMPLE RESTORATION ↜


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6FzPMr3laA?feature=shared

[Daniel 8:14 BSB] — He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be properly restored.”

[Daniel 8:14 NET] — He said to me, “To 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be put right again.”

[Daniel 8:14 AFV] — And he said to me, "Unto two thousand, three hundred evenings and mornings. Then the sanctuary shall be cleansed."

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In this bible verse in red, you may notice that the response was directed to “Me” as in Daniel, even though Daniel was not the one who originally asked the question in the preceding verse. This highlights an important pattern in Scripture—saints and angels often ask questions they already know the answers to, not for their own sake, but for the benefit of those who do not know.

We see a similar example in Revelation, where one of the twenty-four elders asked John, “Who are these dressed in white, and where did they come from?” John replied, “Sir, you know.” Likewise, in Genesis, the Lord asked Adam, “Where are you?”—not because He did not know Adam’s location, but to initiate a conversation for mankind’s sake. This was the first recorded interaction between God and humanity.

Using questions to open up discussions is a powerful principle. The Lord Jesus Himself used this approach when speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well. He began by asking her for water, just as Abraham’s servant did with Rebekah. This method of wise asking can help establish conversations with people we may not otherwise engage with.


Understanding the Response in Daniel 8:14
One saint asked another a question, which Daniel overheard. Yet, rather than answering the asking saint directly, the response was given to Daniel. Additionally, the question contained four key elements, but the answer only addressed one—the cleansing and restoration of the Temple. This was because, of the four items mentioned, the cleansing of the Temple would take the longest to be fulfilled.

Key Timelines from Daniel’s Visions

1⁂ Restoring the Temple – 2,300 Evenings and Mornings
According to Daniel 8:14, the full restoration of the Temple will take 2,300 evenings and mornings, which amounts to nearly six years and a few months.

2⁂ Restoring the Trampled Saints – 3.5 Years
The trampling of the host of heaven, the stars, and the saints will last 3.5 years (1,260 days) before they are restored. This is confirmed in Daniel 12:5-7 (GNB):
Then I saw two men standing by a river, one on each bank. One of them asked the angel who was standing further upstream, “How long will it be until these amazing events come to an end?” The angel raised both hands toward the sky and made a solemn promise in the name of the Eternal God. I heard him say, “It will be three and a half years. When the persecution of God's people ends, all these things will have happened.”

3⁂ The Abomination of Desolation – 1,290 Days
From the time of the removal of the daily sacrifices to the setting up of the Abomination of Desolation, there will be 1,290 days (3.5 years). However, there is an additional time of testing:
Blessed is the one who waits and attains to the 1,335 days. (Daniel 12:11-12, NET)

This means that those who endure beyond the 1,290 days to 1,335 days (an extra 45 days) will experience a special blessing.


The 1,290 Days without Sacrifices
During these 1,290 days, the daily sacrifices will cease, and the Temple—formerly a House of Prayer—will be defiled, becoming a den of thieves and worse, a dwelling for the Man of Sin (Antichrist).

This Antichrist will:
Sit in the Temple, claiming to be God.
Set up his image, which the False Prophet will animate and cause to speak (Revelation 13).
Enforce the mark of the beast (666)—which Daniel refers to that image and mark of the beast as the Abomination of Desolation (an idol set up in the holy place).

Although the Antichrist's rule will end after 1,290 days, the full cleansing and restoration of the Temple will take a total of 2,300 days, as stated in Daniel 8:14.

Final Summary
Antichrist’s rule lasts ➝ 1,290 days (3.5 years).
Blessed endurance period ➝ 1,335 days.
Temple restoration takes ➝ 2,300 days (~6 years).
Thus, while the reign of the Man of Sin will be cut short, the complete purification and renewal of the Sanctuary will take longer, fulfilling God's appointed timeline.
Christianity Etc↝ To Know: Ask, How Long ↜ by PCHC(op): 2:36am On Feb 12, 2025
↝ TO KNOW: ASK, HOW LONG ↜

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2KOWSLlNc

[Daniel 8:13 Brenton] — And I heard one saint speaking, and a saint said to a certain one speaking, How long shall the vision continue, even the removal of the sacrifice, and the bringing in of the sin of desolation; and how long shall the sanctuary and host be trampled?

[Daniel 8:13 ERV] — Then I heard two holy ones talking with each other. One of them asked the other one, who had been speaking, "How long will the things in this vision last—the stopping of the daily sacrifices, the sin that destroys, and the trampling down of the holy place and heaven's army?"

[Daniel 8:13 GW] — Then I heard a holy one speaking. Another holy one said to the one who was speaking, “How long will the things in this vision—the daily burnt offering, the destructive rebellion, the surrender of the holy place, and the trampling of the army—take place?”

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You may recall from my earlier discussion under “Daniel 7:16” the importance of asking questions and seeking understanding, especially when experiencing visions—particularly those that are difficult for the seer to comprehend.

I mentioned how both Daniel and Zechariah were good at asking for explanations, either during or after receiving their visions. For example, in Daniel 8:15-17, Daniel himself asks for clarity about the vision he saw. Even the angel, Gabriel, is sent to him to provide understanding. Similarly, Zechariah asked for clarity in Zechariah 1:9, when he questioned the angel about the meanings of his visions. In contrast, John in the book of Revelation didn’t ask for any explanations from the angels or saints around him. At one point, one of the twenty-four elders even had to ask John, “Who are these, dressed in white, and where did they come from?” (Revelation 7:13-14). John did not know the answer, and although he knew the elder did, John did not ask. The elder, aware that John didn’t have the answer, still chose to ask him. Even when John acknowledged that the elder knew, he didn’t request any further explanation. Yet, the elder proceeded to explain to John, even though John didn’t ask.

This behavior isn’t just limited to visions; it also applies to situations like Bible classes or forums like this one. If there’s something you don’t understand and believe I may have insight into, please feel free to ask. I know some are hesitant to ask due to shyness, and I try to explain things as thoroughly as possible. But remember, Matthew 7:7 reminds us, “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.” Asking is essential to receiving clarity.

The saints and holy ones in heaven also engage with one another by asking questions. In 1 Peter 1:12, it says, “Even the angels long to look into these things,” highlighting the fact that they too seek understanding and insight. They narrate stories, share reports, and discuss visions. In the Bible verse highlighted in red (Daniel 8:13-14), one of them is speaking, recounting events, and another asks about the events and timeframes in the vision regarding the removal of the daily sacrifices, the rise of the man of sin, the trampling of the hosts, and the destruction of the holy people and places. The question posed is, “How long will these things last?” This reflects the search for understanding about the duration of suffering, as seen in other passages like Revelation 6:10, where the souls under the altar ask, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”

Asking about the duration of such evil events and the reign of an evil ruler is a way of seeking to understand how long we will need to endure with patience, faith, and hope. Knowing when the trials will end, even if we don’t know exactly when they’ll begin, gives us the strength to endure them. It provides a clearer vision and focus, making it easier to navigate through difficult times. Romans 5:3-4 reminds us that suffering produces endurance, and endurance leads to character, and character leads to hope.

Have Patience. How long? Just have patience and wait awhile. Express a while in terms of years, months, weeks or days?

[Revelation 6:10 TLV] — And they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “O Sovereign Master, holy and true, how long before You judge those who dwell on the earth and avenge our blood?”

[Psalms 94:3-11 ERV] — LORD, how long will the wicked have their fun? How much longer? How much longer will those criminals brag about the evil they did? LORD, they hurt Your people and make them suffer. They kill widows and foreigners living in our country. They murder orphans. And they say the LORD does not see them doing these evil things! They say the God of Jacob does not know what is happening. You evil people are foolish. When will you learn your lesson? You are so stupid! You must try to understand. God made our ears, so surely He can hear what is happening! He made our eyes, so surely He can see you! The one who disciplines nations will surely correct you. He is the One who teaches us everything. The LORD knows what people are thinking. He knows that their thoughts are like a puff of wind.
Christianity EtcThe Mystery Of Iniquity At Work by PCHC(op): 1:44am On Feb 11, 2025
This episode I titled:

THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY AT WORK ↜

And here is the Bible verse in red:

[Daniel 8:12 AFV] — And the host was given to it together with the daily sacrifice because of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground. And it practiced and prospered.

[Daniel 8:12 BSB] — And in the rebellion, the host and the daily sacrifice were given over to the horn, and it flung truth to the ground and prospered in whatever it did.

[Daniel 8:12 TLV] — The host was given over along with the daily sacrifice, in the course of its rebellion. It will hurl truth to the ground and prosper in what it does.

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Now the lines begin:

No weapon fashioned against the Lord God shall prosper. Nevertheless, that emergent horn or king prospered to some degree against the Lord God, and spoilt or took away His Worship mediums, which included His Daily Sacrifices (Offerings) by which He is worshipped, and His Sanctuary or Holy Temple in which He is worshipped. The Lord God just allowed it to prosper even though it was a device formed against the Lord God Himself. As it is written,

[Daniel 11:36 TLV] — “So the king will do as he pleases, exalting and magnifying himself above every god. He will even speak outrageous things against the God of gods. He will prosper until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been decided will be done.

This bible reference not only show that king will prosper against the God of gods Himself, but also shows the reason and the season God allowed this exception and upset to thrive. The reason that king or horn will prosper thus against God is because of God’s wrath – “Because of Transgression.” And the season that king or horn will prosper thus against God is in the time of wrath within the space of 1,290 days. As it is written,

[Daniel 12:11 BSB] — And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days.

Now back to the bible verse in red⁞⁞

⁂ The reason the Lord will allow the Antichrist to have such power over the fraction of host, the stars and the daily sacrifice, is because of the Transgression or Sin;

⁂ The reason the Lord will allow the Antichrist to cast the truth and the holy to the ground, is because of the Transgression or Sin;

⁂ The reason the Lord will allow the Antichrist to practice and prosper in whatever it practiced is because of the Transgression or Sin.

Men say, “Practice makes perfect,” but to the Antichrist practice is not to become perfect, instead practice is to prosper. He practiced and prospered, all because of the Transgression or Sin.

To others like us, it is mandated that only in Righteousness shall you be established. But unlike us, to the Antichrist, in transgression, rebellion or sin, shall you prosper. Therefore, the Antichrist is also known by this name or title, “THE MAN OF SIN” ⇛ And according to Rick, “The Man of Sin” is the personification of the Sin of Man. The sins of mankind, the transgressions from the beginning to the end, are what built the Man of Sin called “The Antichrist.” The sins you may have committed even today will be adding more power and advantage to the Man of Sin yet to be revealed in due course. It’s part of the harvest of the iniquities of mankind, and as the Man of Sin, he is in the center of the mystery of iniquity.

[2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 GW] — Don’t let anyone deceive you about this in any way. That day cannot come unless a revolt takes place first, and the Man of Sin, the Man of Destruction, is revealed. He opposes every so-called god or anything that is worshiped and places himself above them, sitting in God’s temple and claiming to be God. Don’t you remember that I told you about these things when I was still with you? You know what it is that now holds him back, so that he will be revealed when his time comes. The mystery of this sin is already at work. But it cannot work effectively until the person now holding it back gets out of the way. Then the Man of Sin will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will destroy him by what He says. When the Lord Jesus comes, His appearance will put an end to this man. The man of sin will come with the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous and wonderful signs. But they will be lies. He will use everything that God disapproves of to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. That’s why God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe a lie. Then everyone who did not believe the truth, but was delighted with what God disapproves of, will be condemned.

Thus, he will cast the truth to the ground, and those who do not love the truth will be condemned – For he is the man of sin and lies of the liars. Choose one of these two Men now and forever:

⁜ Jesus Christ ↹ The Man of Righteousness + Truth

⁜ Anti-Christ ↹ The Man of Sin + Lies

You cannot have both, and you cannot avoid both.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcOwjUtkHo0
Christianity Etc↝ The Vision Of The Daily Sacrifices ↜ by PCHC(op): 12:00am On Feb 10, 2025
THE VISION OF THE DAILY SACRIFICES ↜

[Daniel 8:11 BSB] — It magnified itself, even to the Prince of the host; it removed His daily sacrifice and overthrew the place of His sanctuary.

[Daniel 8:11 ERV] — That little horn became very strong, and it turned against God, the Ruler of heaven's army. It stopped the daily sacrifices that were offered to the Ruler. And the holy place where people worshiped the Ruler was pulled down.

[Daniel 8:11 AFV] — Yea, he magnified himself, even to the Prince of the host, and the daily sacrifice was taken away by him, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.

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We need to understand the vision of the Daily Sacrifice getting abolished or taken away, and the vision of the Abomination of Desolation standing in or against the holy place (the sanctuary). But first let’s reintroduce the Prince of the hosts or the Captain of the Armies of the Lord in the bible verse in red.

First ⁞⁞

⁂1. The Prince of the Hosts – The Captain of the Heavenly Armies

He is the One Joshua worshipped, and He now bears the same name as Joshua that worshipped Him – Joshua, Jesus, Yeshua, and Yahoshua – the Lord:

[Joshua 5:14-15 BBE] — And He said, No; but I have come as Captain of the armies of the Lord. Then Joshua, falling down with his face to the earth in worship, said, “What has my Lord to say to His servant?” And the captain of the Lord's army said to Joshua, “Take off your shoes from your feet, for the place where you are is holy.” And Joshua did so.

As you just read, this Captain or Prince of the Armies of heaven is neither defending “for us” nor defending “for our enemies:” – Rather this Captain or Prince of the Armies of Heaven is defending “the Holy Place.” In His defense for the Holy Place, the Captain commanded even His worshipper and servant (Joshua) to take off his shoes in showing respect to the Holy Place where he was, and not just showing worship to Him the captain without discerning the holiness of the holy place.

But unlike this Prince or Captain, that emergent horn King who magnified himself to the Prince or Captain of the Host does not regard the Captain or the Holy Place. Instead, that counterfeit prince or captain, called “Antichrist” shall be fighting against the Holy Place, while the true Captain or Prince defends the Holy Place. So, the counterfeit Captain will become “Abomination of Desolation standing in the Holy Place.” As it is written,

[Matthew 24:15-16 TLV] — “So when you see ‘the abomination of desolation,’ which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the Holy Place (let the reader understand), then those in Judea must flee to the mountains.

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⁂2. The Vision of the Daily Sacrifice versus the Abomination of Desolation –

Now, events refer to “Changes in Times and Laws” based on the politics inside the Holy Temple (Holy Place) of God. To break it all down to fragments, let me illustrate it from this angle:

There are many church buildings or places of worship in the world, but there is only one Temple in the world. The only temple building recognized in the world among spiritual or heavenly beings is the Temple in Jerusalem. (Though, spiritually everybody in the Lord is a temple of the Spirit of God, but among physical buildings there is only one Temple of God, in Jerusalem: Other places of worship are just called churches, synagogues, mountains, grounds of truth, pillars of truth, shelters etc.). The temple of God has strict specifications, patterns, directions (in reference to East, West, North and South), specific architectural details, Courts (outer court, inner court, most holy place or holy of holies), and contain treasures, covenant of God in original seals or writings, seat of mercy reserved only for the LORD to sit on, and Cherubim figures, etc. that must strictly be followed to build a temple, and it must be built in a specified location or hill inside Jerusalem or inside heaven. If any single item of these specifications is missing in building of a worship center, then that building does not meet up to being called “Temple of God” but may still be called “Church, Cathedral, Synagogue, Fellowship centers etc.” In effect, the Temple of God is designed to contain His Sanctuary or Tabernacle.

In running a Temple of God, there is Daily Sacrifice or Daily Burning that must be sustained, and not put out or stopped. This is not just physical, but spiritual as well. This Daily Sacrifice continued even after the Lord Jesus Christ put an end of the sacrifice for sin and shedding of blood for the remission of sin. Actually, the Daily Sacrifice began at Mount Sinai, when the LORD came to deliver exodus of Israel from Egypt. And the Daily Sacrifice is actually Daily Sacrifices because there are two sacrifices made per each day: One in the morning (sunrise) and the other in the evening (sun setting), as in, “Breakfast and Supper.” Here is the Law of the Daily Sacrifices ↴

[Numbers 28:1-8 AFV] — And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, "Command the children of Israel, and say to them, 'My offering and My bread for My sacrifices made by fire, a sweet savor to Me, you shall be diligent to observe to offer to Me in their due season.' And you shall say to them, 'This is the offering made by fire which you shall offer to the LORD: two lambs of the first year without blemish day by day, a continual burnt offering. The one lamb you shall offer at sunrise, and the other lamb you shall offer between the two evenings. And a tenth of an ephah of flour for a grain offering, mixed with the fourth of a hin of beaten oil. It is a continual burnt offering which was ordained in Mount Sinai for a sweet savor, an offering made by fire to the LORD, And its drink offering shall be the fourth of a hin for the one lamb. Pour a drink offering of strong wine to the LORD in the holy place. And the other lamb you shall offer between the two evenings, even as the grain offering of the morning, and as its drink offering, you shall offer it, an offering made by fire, a sweet savor to the LORD.

What do the daily sacrifices accomplish in the covenant? Ceremonially, prayers of the saints and righteous ascend to God with the daily sacrifice as sweet smelling savor, on daily basis. To be clear, whatever you pray or ask by faith in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, God hears you. But while there’s this informal and direct Communication between God and men through Faith, there is a Ceremonial or Formal communication between God and men through Protocols and Rituals of Priesthood. You need to know the two. Supposing your king is your father/husband, you will know there is an informal way of getting to him as your father/husband and there is also a formal or procedural way of getting to him as the king over you and your people. So, officially or by priesthood, prayers follow the protocols of going through “priests” or “mediators” or “intercessors” to get to God. While we berate the Roman Catholics for asking saints and angels to pray for them, yet we must acknowledge that saints and angels in heaven indeed play great priestly role in making the prayers of men on earth to get to God in the formal or official protocol. We don’t have to ask them to pray for us, but yet they still push forward our prayers to God: As in, you submit a letter or proposal to the head of an office, but the clerks or secretary receives or acknowledges the letter, stamps and signs the acknowledgement, and you don’t have to beg the clerks or secretary to forward the document to the head because that is their duty, especially because they have signed and stamped the receipt with you that they received your document addressed to their boss.

"These angels and saints in heaven will not simply report or submit the prayers to God at any time. Instead, they will wisely incorporate the prayers into their offerings and worship, so that the prayers ascend as a sweet savor, and God will be more inclined to hear them."

Example, notice how the 24 Elders incorporated the prayers of the saints inside the musical instruments and sounds they were playing in worshipping God:

[Revelation 5:8-10 GNB] — As He did so, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each had a harp and gold bowls filled with incense, which are the prayers of God's people. They sang a new song: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to break open its seals. For you were killed, and by your sacrificial death you bought for God people from every tribe, language, nation, and race. You have made them a kingdom of priests to serve our God, and they shall rule on earth."

Notice how this angel offered sacrifice that ascended to God with prayers of God’s people, as sweet savor:

[Revelation 8:3-4 GNB] — Another angel, who had a gold incense container, came and stood at the altar. He was given a lot of incense to add to the prayers of all God's people and to offer it on the gold altar that stands before the throne. The smoke of the burning incense went up with the prayers of God's people from the hands of the angel standing before God.

The daily sacrifices were like mediums and opportunities for prayers to be getting to God ceremonially in every 12 hours daily. The night prayers correspond with the morning sacrifice, and the day prayers correspond with the evening sacrifice.

Solomon, after building the Temple, in dedicating the Temple prayed that God will accept the Temple as “The House of Sacrifice:”

[2 Chronicles 7:12 ESV] — Then the LORD appeared to Solomon in the night and said to him: “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for Myself as a House of Sacrifice.

And the “House of Sacrifice” also means the “House of Prayer.”

[Isaiah 56:7 GNB] —”I will bring you to Zion, My Sacred Hill, give you joy in My House of Prayer, and accept the sacrifices you offer on My Altar. My Temple will be called a House of Prayer for the people of all nations."

So, the Antichrist, by removing the Daily Sacrifices, will shut down prayers officially in the Holy Place, thereby causing changes in times and laws. This will enable set up the transgression or abomination of desolation that would ruin the holy place, weaken the fraction of the hosts and stars he will bring down and trample, and trample even the sanctuary or tabernacle.

Remember the story of Ichabod – The Glory of God has departed from Israel because the Ark of the Covenant was gone. Something more deadly and dangerous than the loss of the Ark or the Glory of God, as seen in the story of Ichabod, is the removal or abolishing of the daily sacrifices. This is because it will not just affect the glory, but will affect the holy: The holy place and holy people will be trampled and made desolate because the Abomination of Desolation will be used to replace the Daily Sacrifices in the holy place. Thus, he will exchange the Daily Sacrifices with the Abomination or Transgression of Desolation instead.

[Daniel 12:11-12 NET] — From the time that the daily sacrifice is removed and the abomination that causes desolation is set in place, there are 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits and attains to the 1,335 days.


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Christianity Etc↝ Prophecy: The Horn That Defeated Some Stars Of Heaven ↜ by PCHC(op): 12:24pm On Feb 07, 2025

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↝ PROPHECY: THE HORN THAT DEFEATED SOME STARS OF HEAVEN ↜

[Daniel 8:10 NET] — It grew so big it reached the army of heaven, and it brought about the fall of some of the army and some of the stars to the ground, where it trampled them.

[Daniel 8:10 GW] — It continued to gain power until it reached the army of heaven. It threw some of the army of heaven, the stars, down on the ground and trampled them.

[Daniel 8:10 AFV] — And it became great, even to the host of heaven. And it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and trampled upon them.

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That emergent horn continued to gain powers and to grow, until it could match some of the host and stars of heaven, and even bring some of them down to the ground and trample them. These we have to look at:

⁂ 1. Its growing and gaining of power that reached a fraction of the army of heaven;

⁂ 2. Its powers over that fraction of heavenly army and heavenly stars;

⁂ 3. What these mean.


⁂ 1. Its growing and gaining of power that reached a fraction of the army of heaven;

The horn would achieve what no political figure had ever achieved in the world of men before it, reaching heights of not just “higher powers, powers in high places or heavenly places” but principality over a fraction of heavenly army and stars. These growth and gains of powers would be acquired through men and Satan giving their powers to the horn (in addition to its use of forbidden and dark arts, witchcraft and esoterism), especially when these need to be accomplished through it. But more importantly, the Lord God allowed it.

⁂ 2. Its powers over that fraction of heavenly army and heavenly stars;

Not only the saints on earth are disturbed by the emergence of the horn (particularly the Antichrist), the angels and stars of heaven are disturbed by it too. It’s a battle we all have to face, not just as saints but also as angels and stars of heaven, know the prophecy of the degree of impact allotted to it. However, we know what it does not know and Whom it does not know; and all these are just a week event or just about 7 years or half of it.

In case you may be wondering whether literally stars as we know them will fall to the earth, as in, like sun in their celestial bodies. No, they are not falling to the ground of the earth like stars in celestial bodies, but as men though they are fallen stars. And then the Horn will trample upon them as men squashed on the earth, after bringing them down from heaven. Example to illustrate this: the two witnesses from heaven, who were stars or precisely two Olive Trees before the God of the whole Earth in heaven, came down as two prophets to prophesy. At the end of their days of prophesying, the beast killed them and trampled upon their dead bodies on earth as dead men, though they are stars of heaven.

[Revelation 11:7-8 NET] — When they have completed their testimony, the beast that comes up from the abyss will make war on them and conquer them and kill them. Their corpses will lie in the street of the great city that is symbolically called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was also crucified.

Even Lucifer was a star, but when he fell to the ground he was a man (Isaiah 14:12-18).

⁂ 3. What these mean.

Let’s look at the “Polarity” of the warfare in these visions of Daniel, by reviewing the first directions of attack (before other directions of attack) each of the aforementioned superpowers in these visions of Daniel, from the Ram through the He-Goat and the Horns thereof.

⁕ When the Ram was set to attack; the first direction the Ram attacked was the West, then the north and the South. Thus the Ram was a Superpower, whose number one challenge or war was in the West.

⁕ When the He-Goat was set to attack; the first direction the Goat attacked was the East. Thus the He-Goat was a Superpower, whose number one challenge or war was in the East.

Thus, the polarity of the warfare between the Ram and He-Goat was historically representing the clash and battles for supremacy between the “East” and the “West.”

⁕ Now, when the Emergent Horn was set to attack; the first direction the Horn attacked was the South, then the East and the Pleasant Land. Thus the Horn was a Superpower, whose number challenge or war was in the South.

Actually, before the Horn from the North would attack the South, the kingdom of the South had spoilt the Northerners in the polarity that represented clash and battles for supremacy between the “South” and the “North.”

Back to the Emergent Horn: After it has succeeded over the North, then it turned towards its next challenge in the East, and from there it focused on the “Pleasant or Holy Land.” It was in its campaign against the Holy Properties that it engaged in series of “Unholy warfare of Desecration and Desolation of Holy Places and Holy People.”

In the bible verse in red, the “Targets Acquired” was a fraction of the heavenly Army and heavenly Stars. These targets acquired became its victims: being cast down to the ground and trampled underfoot by the horn. However, the clause “No one could deliver them out of the hand of the horn” was not added because this upset was transient and only allowed by God for a reason and a season. The Stars shall rise again.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 11:26pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
hmm, I lied because I said Yeshua Christ the son of the living God is not God nor a god, but there is only one true God the father YHVH. Ah well If I spoke from my self and my words have no truth in them, then this accusation should never be held against you nor recorded against you. But if my words are true but you rejected them, I dust myself and words off you.

You called them lies so may you never see them as the truth.
Not only did you lie, but also you denied Christ by this statement. It is of the spirit of antichrist that denies "Divinity of Yeshua Christ"
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 11:15pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
hmmm 🤔, I have read your response. I do need mercy more than you do, it was so nice hearing it speak.

Continue to correct, continue in your way. May my words forever remain foolishness and errors to you. 🙏

May every word you have written here be recorded on your behalf, not one word missing from it.
Your words will not forever remain foolishness and errors to me or to anyone, no matter how you foolishly pray that. The reason is because the Lord's Judgment will correct errors and foolishness before eternity begins. Like you rightly said, every word I have written here and every where else will be recorded on my behalf, and no one should be missing. The Lord and His Angels recording all my words without anyone missing is one of my greatest prayer points.

[Job 19:23-24 ERV] — "I wish someone would write down everything I say. I wish my words were written on a scroll. I wish they were carved with an iron tool into lead or scratched on a rock so that they would last forever.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 10:44pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
Hmm you say I am he who darkens counsel by your many words without knowledge.

Could you not have been patient and listened.

Since what I have said to you are dark counsels, may you never believe them, may you never seen any light from them. May you continue in your ways till the end.


I apologize for the rebuke, continue in your light
Your words were darkness to counsels, and so there was no way light was to be seen from them forever and ever.

Your apology statement calls that a "Rebuke" but even Peter thought he was "Rebuking" the Lord Jesus Christ when the Lord Jesus said to Peter, "Get behind me Satan..."

You are more in need of learning of the Lord Jesus Christ, than in need of offering any apology to me.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 10:37pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
you call him stumbling stone but he is the cornerstone, of which the woman was still standing. They all accused her but the stone stood firm because the truth will always stand. God said he would send a man, and he sent a man and that man is at his right hand now.
Jesus Christ is both the Corner Stone and the Stumbling Stone: To the accusers of the woman, He was the Stumbling Stone, but to the Woman He was the Corner Stone:

[1 Peter 2:6-8 TLV] — For it says in Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion a stone, a chosen, precious cornerstone. Whoever trusts in Him will never be put to shame.” Now the value is for you who keep trusting; but for those who do not trust, “The stone which the builders rejected—this One has become the chief cornerstone,” and “a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they are disobeying the word—to this they were also appointed.








gohf:
God said you shall have no other god besides Him, God said He is God alone and there is no other. God said, God said, but yet what are you saying, yet you say you speak for God.
Have no other God "Beside Him" - We are not having another God beside Him, but having another God inside Him.

The word God already mean there are Gods inside God. This is because the word God came from the Hebrew word, "Elohim" which is a Plural word for "Gods in God." The singular word to Elohim is "El." Genesis 1:1 states, in the beginning, "Elohim" (Gods in God) created the heavens and the earth. Then down to verse 26, Elohim said, "Let Us (plural) make man in Our Image..."

So, having any other God besides Him is forbidden, but in Him "GodHead or Elohim" is the Father, the Word (The Son) and the Holy Spirit.





gohf:
When your words contradict God and make Him a liar, are you sure you were sent with the word of God? Or you are accusing the very word of God of being a lie?
My words have not contradicted God or made Him a liar; rather it is the man who denies the Son of God as God that makes God a liar.

[1 John 5:10-12 ERV] — Whoever believes in the Son of God has the truth that God told us. But people who do not believe God make God a liar, because they do not believe what God told us about His Son. This is what God told us: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life, but whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.









gohf:
what you have just written here means that one God isn't a real person but an analogy like the one flesh of two married people. And that there was never one God whose name is JHVH but three your god the father, god the son and god the holy Spirit.
I have always maintained there is only One God, not three Gods. But the in Persons inside the One God are more than One entity. This is not analogy from two married people, but a reality and truth. Marriage is a union, but the GodHead is Core Essence of the Infinite and Eternal Being.








gohf:
I typed something here but mercy is speaking, so I erased it. Listen some of us heard that lie as well but we listened to God and accepted his correction and repented from our error. If you choose to remain stubborn it's your choice, but you have to perceive when God is speaking to you through His Spirit, if not, who can help you, no one can.
Yes, mercy is speaking; but you needed mercy to speak more for you than I do. You didn't have to show you typed something you regretted and erased, and even more you didn't have to show your errors and follies.







gohf:
Hmm, my responses to this may have been different if I read this earlier but I leave you for God.
Whatever you bring to the table before me, I will address and correct.








gohf:
who is God, He is the creator of all, He is our Father, He is the person I love and adore, who is Jesus, he is the firstborn our king who paid the price for us all. Maybe one day you will come to know the truth. If mercy is speaking you had better listen, because my rebuke isn't what you should fear.
Who is God?

God is the Lord

Who is Jesus?

Jesus is the Lord
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 10:00pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
Do you genuinely lack understanding or you just purposely avoid it?

Obviously it was a rhetorical question which I answered, because I have Jesus in me doesn't mean I am Jesus.

Now at times you show you understand then it's like you avoid trying to comprehend
Indeed, you having Jesus in you does not make you Jesus. But having Jesus without having understanding of Who He is not good at all. I am not avoiding to comprehend any of your arguments because you lack understanding, though you think you know what you are arguing about.




gohf:
You claim that Jesus is God because he said God is in him but Jesus never said he is God, and even though what he said doesn't mean he is God.
You lied - Jesus Christ said, "I Am the Son of God." You using "Never" to utter this folly reveals much. Rather, Jesus has been saying He is God almost in five chapters of John, and He never denied He is God.

[John 10:33-38 BSB] — “We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.” Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God? If I am not doing the works of My Father, then do not believe Me. But if I am doing them, even though you do not believe Me, believe the works themselves, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I am in the Father.”





gohf:
You never saw the disciples, yet those who saw them said they were like Christ. Do you now see that you are avoiding the very narrative that can help you understand because you don't want to see the truth but to keep believing what you claim is true.

You write this
"you have not seen me even though you have seen my messenger." Then you write, "Yet, He's sent by God. Jesus Christ is God sending Himself. No controversy or ambiguity." It must have felt powerful writing this, it sounds so mystical so so, wow wow, but in actual truth it is nonsense. No matter how good you feel about this, it doesn't make it the truth. One begins to question you mentioned feel good messages that contradict the word of God yet you are doing the exact same thing.
Help me Lord to handle this:

Oh man, you really need to learn before you teach.

One of the criteria required to become an "Apostle in the Bible" is for a man to See Jesus Christ, not for the man to see a disciple of Jesus Christ that looks like Him. Paul met the criteria of becoming an Apostle because Paul saw Jesus Christ, and not a disciple of Jesus Christ.

[1 Corinthians 9:1 BSB] — Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you yourselves not my workmanship in the Lord?

Wait, if someone ask you, have you seen Jesus Christ? would you say because you saw a pastor or a man of God therefore you have seen Jesus Christ? If yes, then that would be false vision.




gohf:
God never said he was sending Himself in all of scripture from Genesis to Malachi, but here you are claiming He did, contradicting what you could have understood and comprehended if you.

The original text of 1 Timothy 3:16 doesn't have the word theos.
1Tim.3.16 Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory. (NIV)

NLT turns the He to Christ, while KJVs turn He to God. The same KJV that added Father word Spirit to 1 John 5.7.

According to you, you would understand
John.3.34 For he is sent by God. He speaks God's words, for God's Spirit is upon him without measure or limit.
God had been saying He will come Himself or Send Himself, but not in the ways you now understand. All the version, whether "He" or "God" used, speaks of the mystery of godliness or "Incarnation" of God and dwelt among men as "Immanuel - God with us."



gohf:
As God sent God and poured God upon God without measure, and the confusion will make you feel like you are under anointing 🤦

Jesus is the image of God but he is not God. Look they don't need to go round about and be cunning if Jesus is God they will be many many many times he is called God and not image of God, word of God, Messenger of God and the like
Do not be like this. God sent God is better expressed, God sent His Son. When He sent Himself, He goes or comes by the name or title, "Son of God, Spirit of God, Word of God." These titles or names of Him are what He bears as Messenger, while at the same time He as the one who sends in Heaven is called "The Father."

The Lord is the Spirit
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 9:13pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
You who have increased in learning have you increased to the extent you have learnt the so called deep secrets of Satan?
That your ears cannot hear the truth anymore?
Nil to that

I told you to increase learning, but you rebelliously questioned whether I have increased learning the deep secrets of Satan that my ears cannot hear the truth anymore.

Learning the deep secrets of Satan or knowing the depth of Satan is not learning, but unlearning, to me.

[Revelation 2:24 TLV] — “But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold to this teaching and have not learned the so-called ‘deep things’ of satan—I place on you no other burden.

I increase in learning because I am wise: and the wise have ears to hear and increase learning.

[Proverbs 1:5 MKJV] — the wise hears and increases learning; and understanding ones get wisdom;




gohf:
You read all that I wrote but instead quoted another text you lack understanding of, are you not being too arrogant to give another an advice 🤨😮‍💨
I do not speak without understanding of whatever I quote or say, rather I speak from understanding. My understanding has no arrogance, or it will not be understanding.

But you are he who darkens counsel by your many words without knowledge.



gohf:
Did you study John 20, wait, do you study the bible with the Holy Spirit or you just quote verses out of it to post your messages.

You read this John.20.28 "My Lord and my God!" Thomas exclaimed.

So tell me did you not read this as well
John.20.31 But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing in him you will have life.

No you choose to believe that Thomas was calling Jesus God. Basic wisdom would state that the supposed conclusion should have been that you may believe that Jesus is God. No but Satan made up that conclusion like he made up the "jump off the roof" idea.
You saying Satan made up the conclusion that Jesus is God, and you doubting the Understanding and Spirit of God in he who is affirming to you that Jesus Christ is God, confirms your lack of understanding and foolishness.

But don't worry, you are a foolish man whom I still want to keep discussing the word of God with, especially because you said God sent you to teach His people, and I would love help you gain understanding to become better teacher.

Which of these three statements do your current level of folly agrees is true:

1. Jesus Christ is the Lord

2. Jesus Christ is God

3. Jesus Christ is the Son of God

These three statements were all said or made about Jesus Christ in the same "JOHN 20"

If you believe any one of the three, then you must believe everyone of the three. The reason is because the three statements are the basically the same:

The Lord = God (The Lord is God)

The Son of God = God (The Son of God is God)

The word "The Lord" means "Yahweh or Jehovah." So, Jesus is the Lord means Jesus is Yahweh or Jesus is Jehovah.

[Philippians 2:11] — and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Jehovah, to the glory of God the Father.

The Word "Son of God" means "God," just as the word "Son of man" means "Man" or son of a lion means a lion. The Son of God is God with us - Immanuel. Jesus Christ is also called "The Mighty God" and "The Everlasting Father"

[Isaiah 9:6 MKJV] — For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be on His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Again, which of those three statements about Jesus Christ in John 20 do you believe and agrees with to begin with?







gohf:
Look you have so much learning yet this is nonsense you wrote, "The Words Jesus Christ spoke are not in His Authority, but He is the Word of God. My words do not come out and say anything without me letting them out, but my words are essentially myself in communication." As your understanding and answer to my question, Do you not believe that "The words which Jesus spoke was not on his own authority?

Let me look at your other responses, hopefully I can see who you are through your words 😁
I understand why these are nonsense to you, because you lack understanding of them. There's no better way to see who I am than through my words.

[John 14:10 MKJV] — Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in Me? The Words that I speak to you I do not speak of Myself, but the Father who dwells in Me, He does the works.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 1:04pm On Feb 06, 2025
Jesus Christ is the Way to the Father, but that is because Jesus Christ is also the Truth of the Father and the Life of Father.

He's the Way, the Truth and the Life — This means He doesn't take a man to the Father, rather He brings a man to Himself — When He draws all men to Himself, there in Him is the Father. So coming to the Father is basically coming to the Son, Jesus Christ. No extra journey between where a man comes to Jesus Christ and where the man comes to God the Father.

God the Father is inside Jesus Christ drawing all men to Himself, for inside Jesus Christ the Son is the Father well pleased.

(2 Corinthians 5:19)
"namely, that God was inside Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not reckoning to them their trespasses, and having committed to us the word of reconciliation."


How do men know the true God and the Eternal life?

(Logos) John 17:3:
"And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent."


The true God + Jesus Christ the Son or the Sent = Eternal Life

(Logos) 1 John 5:20:
"And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true; and we are in Him that is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life."
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 12:34pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
I am here sent to God's people to teach them all about this new life, I am a disciple who follows Jesus and came to know the truth.
If you see me you see Jesus for I am in him and he is in me, but does that mean I am Jesus Christ? No, it doesn't.

Do you even understand the very words you have quoted.

Alas Jesus said in Matt.13.11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.

Is Jesus not the way to the Father? Why then do you assume to suggest that what Jesus said in John 14 means that he calls himself a god.

Let me ask you as well, "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?"

Do you not believe that "The words which Jesus spoke was not on his own authority?

Who did Jesus come to reveal, himself as a god or the one true God?
Glad you are sent to God’s people as a teacher among them. But others are also sent to teach you while you teach others. Therefore, increase in learning.

Again, seeing any messenger of God or Christ does not equate to seeing God or Christ. But seeing Christ Jesus Equates to seeing God.

(Logos) John 20:28-29:
"And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.""


The Words Jesus Christ spoke are not in His Authority, but He is the Word of God. My words do not come out and say anything without me letting them out, but my words are essentially myself in communication.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 12:19pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
I am here sent to God's people to teach them all about this new life, I am a disciple who follows Jesus and came to know the truth.
If you see me you see Jesus for I am in him and he is in me, but does that mean I am Jesus Christ? No, it doesn't.

Do you even understand the very words you have quoted.

Alas Jesus said in Matt.13.11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.

Is Jesus not the way to the Father? Why then do you assume to suggest that what Jesus said in John 14 means that he calls himself a god.

Let me ask you as well, "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?"

Do you not believe that "The words which Jesus spoke was not on his own authority?

Who did Jesus come to reveal, himself as a god or the one true God?
Nil to that. If I see you or any one whom the Lord Jesus Christ sent, I have not seen the Lord Jesus just by seeing any of His Messenger or Disciple.

▪︎▪︎ I cannot say I have seen Jesus Christ just by seeing Apostle Paul or Peter or John etc.

▪︎▪︎ But I can say I received the Lord Jesus Christ just by receiving anyone of these Brethren or Messengers of the Lord Jesus.

If I send a messenger to you, how you treated my messenger is how you treated me because the messenger represented me in the message. But yet you have not seen me even though you have seen my messenger.

But in the case of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself as Messenger of God the Father, just by seeing Jesus Christ you have seen God — He is the express Image or Manifest of the Most God live and direct. Yet, He's sent by God. Jesus Christ is God sending Himself. No controversy or ambiguity.

(AKJV+) 1 Timothy 3:16:
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."



gohf:
if you pick up stones to throw at others, do you also reject the living stone for your philosophy, beware and look beneath your feet for where you are standing may not be of God least you fall
It's not about picking up stones to cast at others or even about looking beneath your feet — This is about discerning the Stumbling Stone Himself, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Those about to condemn the woman caught in adultery could not pick up stones and cast stones at her because they stumbled at the greatest Stone, who wrote on the ground and spoke to them. That Stone or Rock was the Lord Jesus Christ.




gohf:
you wrote about philosophy but what do you think you are doing above?

I and my wife we are one, does that mean my wife is me?
A man and his wife are one body or one flesh, but not one person. One flesh or one body is different from one or the same person.

■ In this Marriage case, there are two persons (or more) in one body (one flesh)

■ In Godhead case, there are three Persons in one God.

gohf:
Even logic would deny you, speak more of God's word.
Sometimes, Logic also denies the Truth, especially the logic of fools.

Oh dear, I have spoken only of God's Word all through. Your ignorance of this does not invalidate it.






gohf:
Do you not understand what unity means?

Do you not understand what Jesus said here in John.17.22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one:

Or are you insinuating that because we are one with Christ, we are Christs and in extension we are God as well? That's preposterous.

Even the Jews who did not believe nor accept Jesus misunderstood him and sought to accuse him, must you do the same as well?

Do you listen to their reactions and words and not pay any attention to the response and correction from Jesus?

Why don't you go and study what Jesus responded to them, would you listen if you won't listen to the one God sent?

John.10.36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, "You are blaspheming,' because I said, "I am the Son of God'?

You speak as if Jesus was hiding who he is, as if the Jews loved him and did not pretended not to hear what he said, looking for an accusation against him so as to kill him
John.10.24 - Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, "How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly."
John.10.25 - Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness of Me.


Of everything Jesus said, even that the Father is greater than all, why did they seek to stone him because Jesus said he is one with his Father
I understand unity and bonds, but you obviously don't understand something greater than unity, which is core essence. Trying to use "Unity" to analyze and interpret the GodHead shows your lack of understanding on this matter.

It is not unity that binds God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit together. These three are not One because they are bonded by unity, unlike other united entities you referenced here.

It's the very Core Essence of GodHead, far beyond unity, that is in the omnipresence of God, omnipotence of God and omniscience of God.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 11:10am On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
you imply that God lied in this way that you claim there isn't only one true God.

You imply that Jesus is a false god or that your Jesus is not the real one, because the real Jesus is quoted by John to say, in John.17.3, And this is the way to have eternal life--to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.

I will ask you one more time, ask the Holy Spirit if he is with you and answer me this, is there another way or another God?
Where are you?



""If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and you have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you for so long a time, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He that has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words which I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who abides in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me, but if not, believe Me for the sake of the works themselves."

(Logos) John 14:7-11
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 11:06am On Feb 06, 2025
Now solve this mathematical or chemical equation:

1 lite of Ice + 1 litre of water + 1 litre of steam contains how many kinds of chemical components?
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 10:56am On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
you imply that God lied in this way that you claim there isn't only one true God.

You imply that Jesus is a false god or that your Jesus is not the real one, because the real Jesus is quoted by John to say, in John.17.3, And this is the way to have eternal life--to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.

I will ask you one more time, ask the Holy Spirit if he is with you and answer me this, is there another way or another God?
No ambiguity in what I responded:

Herr in simple mathematical equation:

1 + 1 = 2

But,

LJ + GF = 1

Meaning

Lord Jesus + God the Father = One God (Not Two Gods, but One God)

As the Lord Jesus Christ Himself said it in thus Bible reference:


"I and the Father are one." Therefore the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.""
(Logos) John 10:30-33
Christianity Etc↝ The Emergent Horn ↜ by PCHC(op): 10:24am On Feb 06, 2025
↝ THE EMERGENT HORN ↜

[Daniel 8:9 GNB] — Out of one of these four horns grew a little horn, whose power extended toward the south and the east and toward the Promised Land.

[Daniel 8:9 GW] — Out of one of the horns came a small horn. It gained power over the south, the east, and the beautiful land.

[Daniel 8:9 AFV] — And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which became very great, toward the south and toward the east and toward the glorious land.

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In this bible verse in red, Daniel saw and told of a little horn that emerged from one of the four horns of the great He-Goat in the vision, and in the vision Daniel saw the horn grew from little into very great, and advanced into the South, then to the East, and then to the Pleasant Land or Holy Land. I intend to tell you these four things, from me to you:

⇛1. Tell you the particular horn among the four Horns, from which that little horn came out from:

⇛2. Tell you what or who those Ram and He-Goat represented:

⇛3. Tell you what or who those horns represented:

⇛4. Tell you about the Loop, Diversion and Timeline.

So, let’s begin with the first: ↴
I tell you, that little horn emerged from the Northern Horn of the He-Goat. It came from the North and then great and advanced to the South, then advanced to the East, and finally advanced to the Pleasant and Glorious Land – Israel. So, in plain terms, the notorious last horn of the He-Goat shall come from the North. As these unfold in other episodes, you will understand this better.

So, let’s jump to the second: ↴
I tell you, the Ram in the entire vision represent the Kingdoms of Media and Persia: Two Kingdoms operating together as one. It is not United Kingdom (singular), but United Kingdoms (plural) ↹ Kingdom of Media (Elam) and Kingdom of Persia (the higher horn that came up last on the Ram).

I also tell you, the He-Goat in the entire vision represent the Kingdom of Greece. As these unfold in other episodes, you will understand this better.

So, let’s jump to the third: ↴
I tell you these about the horns in both:
A. – The horns represent kings, but it does not mean each horn represent literally one king.
B. – The only horn that represent just one single king or one single individual among the horns was the first lone horn of the he-goat between its eyes, like that of a unicorn.
C. – All other horns on the Ram and on the He-Goat are each representing a Set of Kings or Dynasty or Kingdom, and not just one person as king. This extends to the emergent little horn also.
D. – The horns of the Ram are series of kings that ruled Medo-Persia, including Cyrus, Darius, Artaxerxes, Ahasuerus etc.
E. – The single, unicorn-alike horn of the He-Goat was Alexander the Great.
F. – The Four Horns that emerged with allegiance to the four winds of Heaven or four Cardinal Points are the four Beasts in Daniel 7, which emerged from the sea. These were the Lion-alike beast, the Leopard-alike beast, the Bear-alike beast, and the none-alike-horned beast. These four beasts or four horns on the He-Goat are Kings of the East, West, South and North.
G. – The Four Horns are not necessarily the four Generals of Alexander, by whom his kingdom was historically shared into four fragments. Rather I say the four Horns are end-time kings representing the four kingdoms of the Cardinal Points. Out of one of them shall the notorious Antichrist emerge in the last days, just as the little horn in the bible verse in red.
H. – The Little Horn that emerged from one of the four horns, even that little horn that grew great and advanced towards South, East and to the Pleasant Land, represent a set of kings, but the last of those king in that dynasty will be the Antichrist or the king of fierce Countenance, who understands dark sentences. However, they are still of the North.

As these unfold in other episodes, you will understand this better.

So, let’s jump to the fourth: ↴
I tell you about the Loop, Diversion and Timeline, but in a highlight. There’s a silent and secret migration away from the he-goat, in regarding the emergence of the four horns or after the single unicorn alike horn fell. On human and historic perspective, we saw the four generals split the kingdom, and then one king from one of the dynasties of the four generals arose to persecute the Jews severely. That was a Seleucid king, named, Antiochus IV Epiphanes. These were supposed to be a mock fulfillment of the prophecies of the four horns and the emergent horn from one of them. But the real deal is meant for the end of times: Daniel was seeing visions of both the very short-time events and very long-term events merged together. As these unfold in other episodes, you will understand this better.

Therefore, from the bible verse in red, till the ending of these visions of Daniel, are events and concerns that are yet to come as at this day of writing this. While the previous scenes of the same visions, particularly about the He-Goat and the Ram was ancient history or already past events. You will know this because it will now seem as if the Ram and the He-Goat are dead, while the Emergent Horn is now animated, alive or operating as if it’s not a mere horn but a beast of its own mind doing great and terrible things, though it is still referred to as “the Horn.” As these unfold in other episodes, you will understand this better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q8ywOc9498?feature=shared
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 10:19am On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
so you are saying God is a liar and Jesus also lied? Yes or No. There's no in-between. Simple yes He lied or no He did not lie.

And if God did not lie, why then can't you accept what God said?
Nil to that

No one is saying or implying God or the Lord Jesus lied in anyway.
Christianity EtcRe: False Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 1:34am On Feb 06, 2025
[quote author=gohf post=134024179][/quote]"And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!""

(Logos) John 20:28:


Jesus Christ is the Son of God, meaning Jesus Christ is God

Jesus Christ is the Son of man, meaning Jesus Christ is Man
Christianity EtcFalse Gospels And Seductions From Prophets And Pastors by PCHC(op): 1:31pm On Feb 05, 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xoumx2qb3M?feature=shared

FALSE GOSPELs AND SEDUCTIONs FROM PROPHETS AND PASTORS

[Ezekiel 13:10 ERV] — "Again and again those false prophets lied to my people. They said there would be peace, but there is no peace. The people need to fix the walls and prepare for war. But they only slap a thin coat of plaster over the broken walls.

[Ezekiel 13:10 GNB] — "The prophets mislead my people by saying that all is well. All is certainly not well! My people have put up a wall of loose stones, and then the prophets have come and covered it with whitewash.

[Ezekiel 13:10 AFV] — Because, even because they have seduced My people, saying, 'Peace;' and there was no peace—and when anyone builds a weak wall they cover it with whitewash.

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This bible verse in red denounces the prophets, pastors or teachers, who provide a sense of false security by proclaiming peace when there is none. Their lies (in false gospel) give people the illusion of safety, causing them to neglect the reality of their precarious situation. The phrase "they have seduced My people" indicates the prophets' active role in leading people astray in errors: By promoting faith based on false assurance or false reliance on the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross, in His death and by His resurrection, these pastors and prophets prevent the church from confronting their sins, correcting their past, addressing their errors, and turning back to God.

Some of these false gospel and seductions include:

1. They teach or assure that once a believer is saved the believer is saved or safe forever; irrespective of the sins that believer may commit or fall into, provided the believer is saved by the Lord Jesus Christ.

2. Some even teach that confessing one’s sins to those they sinned against in seeking their forgiveness, or making restitution was not necessary, or should not even be considered, once the person has moved on with his or her new life in Christ: - As in, your past is past tense or passed away, and there is no point bringing up your past or even addressing them now in your present life time. As far as they are concern, the blood of Jesus has addressed the issues of sins in their past, present and even sins in their future. These are just few of the false gospel and seductions from these prophets, pastors and teachers.

Well, I am not satisfied with just mentioning few of those false gospels or seductions. So start counting 23 of them:

Here is the renumbered list:

1. Prosperity Gospel
Narrative: God's primary desire is to bless believers with wealth, health, and success.
Seduction: Encourages materialism by promising blessings in exchange for faith or giving.
Danger: Shifts focus from eternal salvation to earthly rewards.

2. Hyper-Grace
Narrative: God's grace covers all sins, eliminating the need for repentance or personal holiness.
Seduction: Reduces accountability, leading to complacency and a license to sin.
Danger: Ignores the transformative nature of grace.

3. Antinomianism
Narrative: Believers are free from the law and can live as they please.
Seduction: Encourages moral laxity by misinterpreting Christian liberty.
Danger: Disregards Christ's call to obedience and sanctification.

4. Legalism
Narrative: Believers must follow strict rules and regulations to earn God’s favor.
Seduction: Promotes self-effort over faith and grace.
Danger: Leads to spiritual pride and a distorted view of salvation.

5. Universalism
Narrative: All people will ultimately be saved, regardless of faith or repentance.
Seduction: Offers false assurance and diminishes the urgency of evangelism.
Danger: Contradicts clear biblical teachings about judgment and salvation.

6. Word of Faith
Narrative: Believers can create their reality through positive declarations.
Seduction: Promotes self-centered faith and reduces dependence on God.
Danger: Encourages a distorted understanding of prayer and divine sovereignty.

7. Mysticism
Narrative: Emphasizes personal experience and mystical encounters with God over biblical authority.
Seduction: Leads to subjectivity and spiritual instability.
Danger: Undermines scriptural truth in favor of emotionalism.

8. Emergent Church
Narrative: Prioritizes experience and subjective truth over biblical doctrine.
Seduction: Encourages relativism and de-emphasizes foundational Christian beliefs.
Danger: Leads to theological confusion and spiritual drift.

9. New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)
Narrative: Restores apostles and prophets with authority to govern the church and society.
Seduction: Promotes dominionism and pursuit of power over humility.
Danger: Risks authoritarianism and distortion of church leadership.

10. Dominionism
Narrative: Christians are called to take control of all societal institutions.
Seduction: Shifts focus from evangelism to earthly power and influence.
Danger: Conflates the kingdom of God with political and cultural agendas.

11. Social Justice Gospel
Narrative: Emphasizes social justice and activism over the core message of the gospel.
Seduction: Diverts attention from personal salvation to societal reform.
Danger: Risks replacing biblical truth with human ideologies.

12. Feminist Theology
Narrative: Redefines God and church leadership through the lens of gender equality.
Seduction: Challenges biblical authority and complements cultural norms.
Danger: Risks altering essential theological doctrines.

13. LGBTQ+ Inclusivity
Narrative: Redefines marriage, gender, and sexuality to align with cultural acceptance.
Seduction: Prioritizes inclusivity over fidelity to Scripture.
Danger: Misinterprets biblical teachings on sin and redemption.

14. Ecumenism
Narrative: Seeks unity among churches and faiths, often at the expense of doctrine.
Seduction: Compromises essential Christian truths in favor of outward harmony.
Danger: Risks doctrinal dilution and theological confusion.

15. Gnosticism
Narrative: Salvation comes through secret knowledge (gnosis) rather than faith in Christ.
Seduction: Appeals to intellectual elitism and spiritual mystique.
Danger: Undermines the sufficiency of Christ’s work and the clarity of the gospel.

16. False Signs and Wonders
Narrative: Emphasizes miraculous signs and wonders as the primary evidence of God's presence and power.
Seduction: Focuses on emotional experiences and charismatic personalities over sound doctrine.
Danger: Risks deception through counterfeit miracles and misplaced faith.

17. Denial of Biblical Authority
Narrative: Questions or denies the authority and inerrancy of Scripture, often to align with cultural trends.
Seduction: Adjusts biblical teachings to fit societal norms.
Danger: Undermines the foundation of Christian faith and promotes subjective interpretations of truth.

18. Feel-Good Gospel
Narrative: Prioritizes self-help, personal happiness, and motivational messages over the full counsel of God.
Seduction: Avoids uncomfortable truths like sin, judgment, and repentance.
Danger: Creates shallow faith unable to withstand trials or persecution.

19. Denial of Christ’s Divinity or Humanity
Narrative: Challenges essential doctrines about Jesus, such as His full divinity, humanity, or the sufficiency of His atonement.
Seduction: Appeals to intellectual pride or alternative philosophies.
Danger: Undermines the foundation of salvation and the gospel message.

20. Judgmentless Gospel
Narrative: Downplays or denies God's judgment, emphasizing only His goodness and love.
Seduction: Encourages complacency regarding sin and repentance.
Danger: Ignores the holiness of God and the significance of Christ's sacrifice.

21. Gospel of Permissive Grace
Narrative: Equates God's love with unconditional acceptance of any lifestyle.
Seduction: Removes the call to holiness and sanctification.
Danger: Leads to moral laxity and undermines biblical teachings on transformation.

22. Churchless Gospel
Narrative: Advocates for individual spirituality while dismissing the need for church community.
Seduction: Encourages isolation and rejection of biblical accountability.
Danger: Neglects the role of the church as the body of Christ.

23. Gospel of New Age Spirituality
Narrative: Blends Christian faith with mystical or New Age philosophies.
Seduction: Prioritizes subjective experiences over scriptural truth.
Danger: Dilutes the gospel and promotes spiritual confusion.



Now, let’s get back to the bible verse in red: precisely the second part of the verse:

Instead of these prophets or pastors to ensure the quality of the wall or building they are overseeing, what these prophets and pastors do is to coat or cover the cracks in the walls, the inferior, weak and broken wall materials, with wall papers or claddings. Thus, making the walls or buildings to appear more whitewashed, whereas structurally those walls or buildings are on the verge of collapsing and breaking down when the storm comes.

The imagery or use of building a (weak) wall with whitewash (or weak) plastering represents the sugar coated messages of false gospel and hollow assurances the priests and ministers teach to their followers. The wall may look beautiful on the outside, but it cannot withstand adversity. This symbolizes the fragility of the false hope they offer.

The verse uses the imagery of a wall that is poorly built but covered with whitewash to make it appear sturdy. This symbolizes the false prophets' attempts to cover up the spiritual and moral decay of the people with superficial reassurances. The whitewash represents their lies, which cannot withstand the "storm" of God's judgment.

God warns that the wall built with untempered mortar will collapse under divine judgment, exposing the lies of the prophets. This serves as a cautionary tale against deceit and misplaced trust. It also warns leaders to speak truthfully, even when the message is difficult, rather than prioritizing popularity or ease. Do not ignore or cover up deeper issues—whether spiritual, moral, or societal—by offering shallow solutions. True peace and stability can only come from addressing the root problems, not from pretending they don’t exist.

[Matthew 7:26-27 BBE] —
And everyone to whom My words come and who does them not, will be like a foolish man who made his house on sand; And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house; and it came down and great was its fall.
Christianity EtcThese Prophets And Pastors Shall Neither Enter The Kingdom Of Heaven Nor The Boo by PCHC(op): 9:33am On Feb 04, 2025
[b]THESE PROPHETS AND PASTORS SHALL NEITHER ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN NOR THE BOOK OF LIFE

[Ezekiel 13:9 ERV] — "I will punish those prophets whose visions are false and who lie about the future. I will remove them from My people. Their names will not be in the list of the family of Israel. They will never again come to the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Lord GOD!

[Ezekiel 13:9 GW] — I will use My power against the prophets who see false visions and predict things that don’t come true. They will not help My people make decisions or be recorded in the records of the nation of Israel. They won’t even enter Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD.

[Ezekiel 13:9 AFV] — "And My hand shall be against the prophets who see vanity and who divine a lie. They shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. And you shall know that I am the Lord GOD.

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According to the Bible verse above, the LORD God Himself will ensure that prophets and pastors who prophesy lies that don’t come true, teach misleading doctrines or a false gospel, or who see false visions or vanities, are all cut off in the following ways:

 1. Cut off from the Congregation of the People of God – the Congregation of the Righteous and Saints of the Most High;
 2. Cut off from the Book of Life – once known as the LORD’s Registry or Roll of true Israelites;
 3. Cut off from the Heavenly City of Jerusalem – once known as the Land of Israel.

I have updated the use of these terms as we know them today. In truth, these three must come together, as having one means having all three, and losing one means losing all three. For example, to be cut off from the Congregation of the Saints or the Righteous People of God is also to be cut off from the Book of Life: one does not exist in isolation from the other. As it is written:

[Psalms 69:28 GW] — Let their names be erased from the Book of Life. Do not let them be listed with righteous people.

In another example, to be cut off from the book of life is also to be cut off from the Holy Land and Holy City – Heavenly Jerusalem. One does not exist in isolation to the other. As it is written,

[Revelation 21:27 ERV] — Nothing unclean will ever enter the city. No one who does shameful things or tells lies will ever enter the city. Only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life will enter the city.

Did you catch the statement in the last Bible reference you just read? – "No one who… tells lies will ever enter the city." Therefore, no one who tells lies will even enter the City or the Book of Life. Oh my God, people tell lies so easily.

Now that we are on the same page, agreeing that coming into the Assembly of the Righteous automatically means coming into Mount Zion, the City of God, and the Book of Life of the righteous written in heaven, this Bible reference captures all three well:

[Hebrews 12:22-24 AFV] — But you have come to Mount Sion, and to the city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem; and to an innumerable company of angels; To the joyous festival gathering; and to the church of the firstborn, registered in the book of life in heaven; and to God, the Judge of all; and to the spirits of the just who have been perfected; And to Jesus, the Mediator of the New Covenant; and to sprinkling of the blood of ratification, proclaiming superior things than that of Abel.

Therefore, the City, the Congregation, and the Registry (Book of Life) are interconnected in admitting or expelling anyone.

Now, back to the bible verse in red.

[Ezekiel 13:9] — "And My Hand shall be against the prophets who see false visions and predict things that don’t come true. They shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. And you shall know that I am the Lord GOD.

[Ezekiel 14:9-11 BBE] — And if the prophet, tricked by deceit, says anything, it is I the Lord by whom he has been tricked, and I will put out My Hand against him, and he will be cut off from among My people Israel. And the punishment of their sin will be on them: the sin of the prophet will be the same as the sin of him who goes to him for directions; So that the children of Israel may no longer go wandering away from Me, or make themselves unclean with all their wrongdoing; but they will be My people, and I will be their God, says the Lord.

In simple terms, such pastors and prophets shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.

[Matthew 7:20-25 GNB] — So then, you will know the false prophets by what they do. "Not everyone who calls me 'Lord, Lord' will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do. When the Judgment Day comes, many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord! In your name we spoke God's message, by your name we drove out many demons and performed many miracles!' Then I will say to them, 'I never knew you. Get away from me, you wicked people!' "So then, anyone who hears these words of mine and obeys them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. The rain poured down, the rivers flooded over, and the wind blew hard against that house. But it did not fall, because it was built on rock.



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Christianity EtcWhat You Said And Saw Determine Whether God Is With You Or God Is Against You by PCHC(op): 1:59am On Feb 03, 2025
WHAT YOU SAID AND SAW DETERMINE WHETHER
GOD IS WITH YOU OR GOD IS AGAINST YOU

[Ezekiel 13:8 GNB] — So the Sovereign LORD says to them, "Your words are false, and your visions are lies. I am against you.

[Ezekiel 13:8 ERV] — So now, the Lord GOD really will speak. He says, "You told lies. You saw visions that were not true. So now I am against you!" This is what the Lord GOD said.`

[Ezekiel 13:8 AFV] — Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Because you have spoken vanity and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you," says the Lord GOD.

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If God be for us, who can be against us? But if our words are false, our visions are lies, God Himself will be against us. (See the bible verse in red.) If a man wonders why it seems the Lord God is against him, let him wonder no more. Here are two possible reasons why the Lord God may be against him:

1. One reason the Lord God may be against that man is that he is a liar, he does not keep his own words or promises, or his words are neither faithful nor true. The LORD takes responsibility for frustrating and opposing liars, especially frustrating lying prophets and lying pastors. As it is written,

[Isaiah 44:25 ERV] — False prophets tell lies, but the Lord shows that their lies are false. He makes fools of those who do magic. He confuses even the wise. They think they know a lot, but He makes them look foolish.

In another version, this same reference is expressed this way:

[Isaiah 44:25 Brenton] — Who else will frustrate the tokens of those that have divining spirits, and prophecies from the heart of man? Turning the wise back, and making their counsel foolishness;

Yet, after frustrating liars and their false words, the LORD will also judge them for every single lie they have spoken. As in this bible reference:

[Matthew 12:36-37 NET] — I tell you that on the Day of Judgment, people will give an account for every worthless word they speak. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

2. Another reason the Lord God is against that man may be because the man has seen lying or false visions. The use of the word “seen” in this context does not just imply “sighted” or “watched” them, but means “believed” them. Thus, the Lord God is against those who believed lies or false visions or false messages. This is because believing in something false, especially after you saw or heard the truth of it and you still believed the false or the lies, means you rejected the truth and chose the lies. As it is written,

[2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 MKJV] — And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie, so that all those who do not believe the truth, but delight in unrighteousness, might be condemned.

Now, let us try out this: “Between the man of God from Judah and the old prophet who lied to that man of God, saying to him, “I am a prophet, and an angel of the Lord came to me and told me to bring you back into my home, feed you and make you enjoy yourself;” which of the two men was telling lies and which of them was seeing (believing) a lying vision? Obviously, the Bible states that the old prophet was lying to the young man of God. However, the young man of God also saw a vain or false vision by believing that lie in his heart. He loved the lie, and wanted to use that as an excuse to indulge in that party or pleasure. In his mind, he thought that even if it was not true, he would blame the old prophet, accusing him of deception before God—just as Eve accused the serpent of deceiving her. However, Eve also saw a false vision or regarded the lie in her heart because she desired it.

One of the things both Eve and that man of God had in common was that they both recited or spoke what God told them about eating or tasting that, meaning they knew the word of God or knew the truth: Yet, they chose to believe a lying prophet or lying pastor, who is not quoting from the bible (word of God) but using some kind of his own private “testimony, story, vision or revelation” to lie to them, and yet they would believe that private or unverified story of that deceiver over the sure word of God they both heard and even said just moment ago.

Faith is the evidence of things not seen, while doubt or unbelief is based on what is seen. Let this final Bible verse be my prayer request:

[Psalms 119:37 AFV] — Turn away my eyes from seeing vanity; give me life in Your way.


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Christianity EtcRising Of The He-goat In The Vision by PCHC(op): 4:48am On Feb 01, 2025
RISING OF THE HE-GOAT IN THE VISION

(LXX'12UK) Daniel 8:8:
"And the he-goat grew exceedingly great: and when he was strong, his great horn was broken; and four other horns rose up in its place towards the four winds of heaven."

(LITV) Daniel 8:8:
"Then the he-goat became very great. And when he was mighty, the great horn was shattered. And in its place came up four outstanding ones toward the four winds of the heavens."

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Here are the 3 basic times or seasons of this Bible verse in red:

□Season 1□ Then the he-goat became very great.

□Season 2□ And when he was mighty, the great horn was shattered.

□Season 3□ And in its place came up four outstanding ones toward the four winds of the heavens

Changing of times and seasons implies rising and falling of some things against other things. From the position of the Lord Most High, causing anyone to fall or to rise is as plain as changing times or seasons. But from our position in the world, we can only check, but not change, times and seasons. Men can only check times, but God changes times.

Rising comes as ascending, growing, increasing, gaining, multiplying, or enlarging. Falling comes as dying, losing, shrinking, diminishing, decomposing or collapsing.

□Season 1□ Then the he-goat became very great.

Firstly, the he-goat became very great, but what it had become did not change who it was. It remained a he-goat though it became very great as it. Who are you, in the midst of, what are you or how much you are worth.

● To knock off and bring down the great ram only required it to become who it was — He-Goat. Example, David did not need to become very great as Saul in Armour or as Goliath in size for David to knock off and bring down Goliath: Rather, David was required to become who he was — David, after God's Heart.

● After the he-goat knocked down the great ram, becoming great and very great became his to become. Though there is abundance of space for many to become very great, yet some people are required to bring down some others who have been great before becoming great. In this case, it is not a competition for one to be greater than the other (unlike that of the two Horns of the Ram that both could be great together but one greater than the other): Rather in this case, it is a competition or contest for only one to rise and the other must therefore fall — as in a complete change of time or season (like the Ram had to fall for the He-goat to become as very great).

□Season 2□ And when he was mighty, the great horn was shattered.

Not only did the growth and rising of the He-Goat come at the detriment and falling of the Ram, but it also later cost the single unicorn like horn its life and place. That growth of the he-goat robbed the lone horn of its place and relevance as king or head over the entire grown body (kingdom). Basically, the horn lost or died from the growth or overwhelming expansion. How much of your growth can you as head or leader handle without you crashing?

(LXX'12UK) Proverbs 16:32:
"A man slow to anger is better than a strong man; and he that governs his temper better than he that takes a city.”

□Season 3□ And in its place came up four outstanding ones toward the four winds of the heavens

The fall of the unicorn like single horn in between the eyes of the He-Goat gave rise to four horns, each facing one of the four cardinal Poles, North, South, East and West.

Important to note, it was not the rising of these four horns that resulted in the fall of the previous single unicorn like horn — (It was not an overthrow or coup). There's a story of a tiny little horn, who's rising caused the fall of 3 horns before it. But not this story — for instead, it was the fall of the single horn that resulted in the rising of this four horns pointing four directions to better handle the grown body.


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Christianity EtcQuestion And Confront Lies Of False Prophecies Or Messages by PCHC(op): 1:08am On Jan 31, 2025
QUESTION AND CONFRONT LIES OF FALSE PROPHECIES OR MESSAGES

[Ezekiel 13:7 GW] —
Prophets of Israel, haven’t you seen false visions and predicted things that don’t come true? Don’t you say, “The LORD said this,” even though I haven’t said anything?

[Ezekiel 13:7 AFV] —
Did you not see a vain vision, and speak a lying divination? When you say, 'The LORD says;' although I have not spoken."


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In the preceding verse, Ezekiel 13:6, we saw the characteristics of foolish prophets and pastors who:
See false visions and illusions.
Prophesy lies in the name of the Lord.
Raise false hopes and expectations.

Now in the bible verse in red, we see a more direct confrontation with the actions of those who claim to speak on God’s behalf when He has not sent them. The Lord addresses the prophets of Israel directly, questioning their integrity and the authenticity of their messages. God questions their very claims, highlighting the audacity and falsehood in their words. The message here is clear: these prophets—whether pastors, teachers, or leaders—are spreading lies about divine revelation.

1. **False Claims of Authority**
The first issue God addresses is their false claim of divine authority. These prophets and pastors say, “The LORD said,” but God plainly denies ever speaking to them. This is not a misunderstanding—God specifically states that He has not sent them. They are fabricating messages, yet they present them as though they came directly from God. The arrogance of claiming God’s name without His backing is a grave offense.

2. **Vain Visions and Divinations**
The term "vain" or "false" is significant here. A vain vision means it has no real substance—it is empty, deceptive, and serves no true purpose. These prophets might use convincing language or speak with passion, but their words are hollow, designed only to lead people astray. They create false hope or manipulate emotions to appear as though they hold some divine insight or power. Yet, in reality, their visions are just figments of their imagination.

3. **Misleading God’s People**
The harm caused by these false claims is not limited to the prophets themselves. By speaking lies in God’s name, they mislead those who trust them. God’s people are left vulnerable, misdirected, and spiritually at risk, believing that these prophecies are coming from a legitimate source. In doing so, these false prophets become instruments of deception, drawing people away from true righteousness and repentance.

4. **God’s Accountability**
The seriousness of this matter is underscored by the reality that false prophets are ultimately accountable to God. The Scripture warns that those who speak falsely in His name will face judgment. It is not just a matter of human accountability but divine. They may think they are getting away with their lies for a season, but God sees all, and His judgment will be certain.

The message from Ezekiel 13:7 echoes with urgency: God has not spoken to those who speak lies in His name. They might deceive many, but the truth of God’s Word will stand, and falsehoods will eventually be exposed. True prophecy comes from God, not from human invention or desire. We must be cautious not to fall prey to empty words, no matter how convincing the messenger may seem.

This passage serves as a reminder to discern the truth, test the spirits, and remain faithful to the Word of God.

[1 John 4:1 ERV] — My dear friends, many false prophets are in the world now. So don't believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God.


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Christianity EtcThe He-goat Exposed The Shame Of The Ram by PCHC(op): 1:56am On Jan 30, 2025

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THE HE-GOAT EXPOSED THE SHAME OF THE RAM

[Daniel 8:7 NET] —
I saw it approaching the ram. It went into a fit of rage against the ram and struck it and broke off its two horns. The ram had no ability to resist it. The goat hurled the ram to the ground and trampled it. No one could deliver the ram from its power.

[Daniel 8:7 ERV] —
As I watched, the goat ran at the ram and broke both of the ram's horns. The ram could not stop the goat. The goat knocked it to the ground and walked all over it. There was no one to save the ram from the goat.

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Eventually the ram, which could not be put down when it was great, was knocked down and downtrodden when it grew and became even greater and mightier.

Daniel watched and saw the manner the he-goat knocked off the ram to the ground.

1. He saw and highlighted the malice (rage) and the momentum with which the he-goat attacked the ram:

2. He saw and highlighted the impact and devastation the he-goat made on the ram, and broke its horns:

3. He saw and highlighted the ram’s power or ability to fight or standup to the he-goat was not in the ram:

4. He saw and highlighted the he-goat knocked the ram to the ground and trampled on the ram:

5. He saw and highlighted there was no one that could deliver the ram out of the powers of the he-goat.

Now, this is not just about the he-goat defeating the great ram, but beyond that this was about the he-goat exposing the ram. Daniel was seeing and highlighting things he did not see or know about the ram before, while also seeing and highlighting things he did not see or know about the he-goat before. The coming of the he-goat in this manner exposed the unclothedness (I mean weakness or emptiness) of the ram. The Lord teaches us that the way and manner in which He will come will expose unclothedness or emptiness of many, which neither they nor other men have seen or known before. In His words, He said:

[Revelation 16:15 AFV] — “Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is the one who is watching and is keeping his garments, so that he may not walk naked and they may not see his shame.”

Great expositions and revelations will come with the way of His coming. But let’s illustrate some of these with how the he-goat’s coming exposed or revealed some shames of the ram.

Daniel 8:7 KJV — And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

A. The manner of approach, with which it came, was with “Choler, Anger or Rage.” These are important for one who is coming to expose or uncover secret shame. To expose or uncover some shameful secrets involves acts of war or battle. The one coming to expose is also coming to fight warfare of light over darkness for the expositions and for the Truth against the lies, secrets and falsehood. The stroke brings out the secret.

B. The exposure of the ram by the he-goat in the bible verse in red, revealed these shameful secrets of the ram:

(1). the two horns of the ram that were once great, were fallible and breakable. They were not eternal after all. Those horns were kings, but even kings fallible and breakable. Therefore, the baldness of the ram exposed.

(2). the ram’s power or ability to fight or standup to the he-goat was not in the ram. Therefore, the weakness or powerlessness of the ram exposed.

(3). the he-goat knocked the ram to the ground and trampled on the ram. Therefore, the shameful fall, mockery and disgrace of the ram exposed.

(4). there was no one that could deliver the ram out of the powers of the he-goat. Therefore, the state of hopelessness, state of lack of salvation or lack of a savior (lack of a helper) state of the ram was even a bigger shame exposed. The ram had no savior and no one to deliver or even help the ram from the he-goat.

While the ram was living in its glorious and powerful days of grace, the ram did not think or felt the need of building relationship with its savior or helper. It did not envisage the days of darkness, war and disgrace coming, when it will need a Savior or Helper to deliver it.

[Proverbs 1:24-33 ERV] — "I tried to help, but you refused to listen. I offered my hand, but you turned away from Me. You ignored My advice and refused to be corrected. So I will laugh at your troubles and make fun of you when what you fear happens. Disasters will strike you like a storm. Problems will pound you like a strong wind. Trouble and misery will weigh you down. "Fools will call for Me, but I will not answer. They will look for Me, but they will not find Me. That is because they hated knowledge. They refused to fear and respect the LORD. They ignored My advice and refused to be corrected. They filled their lives with what they wanted. They went their own way, so they will get what they deserve. "Fools die because they refuse to follow wisdom. They are content to follow their foolish ways, and that will destroy them. But those who listen to Me will live in safety and comfort. They will have nothing to fear."
Christianity EtcDoings Of Foolish Prophets And Foolish Pastors by PCHC(op): 3:36am On Jan 29, 2025

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DOINGS OF FOOLISH PROPHETS AND FOOLISH PASTORS

[Ezekiel 13:6 GW] —
These foolish prophets see false visions, and their predictions don’t come true. They say, “The LORD said this.” But the LORD hasn’t sent them. Then they hope that their message will come true.

[Ezekiel 13:6 KJV] —
They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, “The LORD saith:” and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.

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In the build-up of preceding verses to this bible verse in red:

* In Verse 2, the Word of God prophesied against the prophesying prophets of Israel

* In Verse 3, the Word of God swore against those prophets, putting woe upon them

* In Verse 4, the Word of God used Parable against those prophets, likened them to foxes

* In Verse 5, the Word of God judged the works of those prophets with their "Have Not" or their "Undoings"

* In Verse 6, the Word of God judged the works of those prophets with their "Have" or their "Doings"

Therefore, in this bible verse in red, we are looking at what these prophets or pastors have been doing:


1. The foolish prophets or foolish pastors have been seeing false visions or seeing fake omens, which is also known as seeing vanity, seeing lying divination or seeing illusions. When they are prophesying, they usually use words like, “I see this” or “I see that.” They are seers of false visions and illusions. And yes, just as there are true Visions from God, there are also false visions; just as there are true wonders, there are also lying wonders; and just as there are true signs, there are also signs of deception. The situations are either those foolish prophesying prophets and pastors were deceived by what they have seen, or they are the deceivers crafting fables and lies in claims they have seen what they never saw or heard.

[Zechariah 10:2-3] — The idols speak lies. The prophets see false visions. They speak about false dreams. They give useless comfort and false hope. That is why people wander around like sheep. They are troubled because there is no true pastor. “My burning anger is directed against the pastors. I will punish the he-goats. The LORD of host takes care of His flock, the people of Judah. He makes them like His splendid war horse.”

2. The foolish prophets or foolish pastors have prophesied and their prophecy or prediction did not happen. Yet, while they prophesied or declared, they used the name of the LORD and claimed the LORD said or spoke something, when they LORD has neither sent them nor even spoken to them of what they are saying. By so doing, these prophets and pastors have become false witnesses, adding to the word of the LORD. This can also come as a false testimony or telling a false miracle story that claims God did something, when God has not done it, even though God can do it. Example, assuming a pastor, prophet or anyone testifies that God did particular miracle (which God has not yet done), and shared that testimony to glorify God: Though men glorify God for that testimony, and though God can do what the testimony said, yet the testifier shall be judged as a bearer of False against God, even if the motive was to glorify God. It is like this:

[1 Corinthians 15:15 AFV] — And we are also found to be false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that He raised Christ, Whom He did not raise, if indeed the dead are not raised.

One of the Ten Commandments is against bearing false witness against your neighbor. How much more bearing false witness against the LORD God Himself, either by claiming God said what He did not say or claiming God did what He did not do as at yet?

[Proverbs 30:5-6 BSB] — Every word of God is flawless; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.

[Proverbs 19:9 BSB] — A false witness will not go unpunished, and one who pours out lies will perish.

3. And the foolish prophets or foolish pastors have made others to hope that they would confirm the word or they hope that their message will come true.

Not only have they seen lying visions and prophesied lies in the name of the Lord, but they raise the false hope or false expectations of both them and those who believe them, that their prophecies and declarations shall come to pass and be fulfilled in their lives. Thus, they use motivational speeches to raise false hopes which they refer to as either faith or positive confessions, or trying to use shouting the loudest “Amen” to validate their false prophecies, or sowing seeds to validate their false prophecies, or making the people share or do something just to validate their false prophecies or declarations. So, according to the bible verse in red, especially in KJV, the foolish prophets and pastors after they have seen the false vision and made the false predictions or declarations using “The Lord Said,” they still make people to believe or raise false hopes for the confirmation of their predictions or declarations.

Why should God’s prophecies and Words need your loudest Amen or your seeds offerings (money given based on that as point of contact or connection) before they are validated and before they can be confirmed or fulfilled for you?

[Jeremiah 23:15-21 NET] — So then I, the LORD of Heaven’s Armies, have something to say concerning the prophets of Jerusalem: ‘I will make these prophets eat the bitter food of suffering and drink the poison water of judgment. For the prophets of Jerusalem are the reason that ungodliness has spread throughout the land.’” The LORD of Heaven’s Armies says to the people of Jerusalem: “Do not listen to what those prophets are saying to you. They are filling you with false hopes. They are reporting visions of their own imaginations, not something the LORD has given them to say. They continually say to those who reject what the LORD has said, ‘Things will go well for you!’ They say to all those who follow the stubborn inclinations of their own hearts, ‘Nothing bad will happen to you!’ Yet which of them has ever stood in the LORD’s inner circle so they could see and hear what He has to say? Which of them have ever paid attention or listened to what He has said? But just watch! The wrath of the LORD will come like a storm! Like a raging storm it will rage down on the heads of those who are wicked. The anger of the LORD will not turn back until He has fully carried out His intended purposes. In days to come you people will come to understand this clearly. I did not send those prophets. Yet they were in a hurry to give their message. I did not tell them anything. Yet they prophesied anyway.

[Lamentations 2:14 GNB] — Your prophets had nothing to tell you but lies; Their preaching deceived you by never exposing your sin. They made you think you did not need to repent.
Christianity EtcWarfare Lessons From Clash Of The He-goat And The Ram by PCHC(op): 10:09am On Jan 28, 2025

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WARFARE LESSONS FROM CLASH OF THE HE-GOAT AND THE RAM

[Daniel 8:6 ERV] —
The goat came to the ram with the two horns. (This was the ram I had seen standing by the Ulai River.) The goat was very angry and ran at the ram.

[Daniel 8:6 AFV] —
And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran at him in the fury of his power.

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Basically, the content of this bible verse includes:

The scene of the He-goat coming to the Ram,

The scene of the He-goat coming at the Ram,

And the reintroduction of the Ram in-between the Goat “Coming to the Ram” and “Coming at the Ram.”

Daniel highlighted the part of the he-goat coming to and towards the ram. He saw this in the vision, that it was the he-goat that sought and approached the ram. Daniel's use of 'Came' instead of 'Went' to describe the He-Goat's approach suggests that he was narrating the scene from the Ram's perspective, as if he were standing alongside the Ram. However, let’s hear from both sides or see from both sides:

** From the side of the Ram’s side, behold the he-goat came to the Ram: The he-goat was proactive as the hunter, leaving the ram the only option of being reactive or self-defensive as the hunted.

** From the side of the Goat’s side, behold the he-goat went to the Ram: The he-goat took the battle to the gates of the ram, to possess them.

[Luke 11:21-22 ERV] —
"When a strong man with many weapons guards his own house, the things in his house are safe. But suppose a stronger man comes and defeats him. The stronger man will take away the weapons that the first man trusted to keep his house safe. Then the stronger man will do what he wants with the other man's things.

Daniel also highlighted the part of the he-goat coming at the ram. Here, “At” literally means “Attack” – coming at the ram meant attacked the ram. This meant coming to the ram transitioned into attacking the ram. The coming to the ram was not a “coming in peace” but an incoming fury, threat and invasion, against the ram.

Either the ram did not discern on time whether the coming of the he-goat toward the ram was a “Coming in Peace” or a “Coming of Evil;” or the ram was as foolish and proud as a foolish king in company of thirty two other drunk and foolish kings who did not care if the incomers were coming in peace or coming for evil (war) against him, and yet he received them. This was the foolish king and kings I speak of:

[1 Kings 20:16-21] —
They marched out at noon, while Ben Hadad and the thirty-two kings allied with him were drinking heavily in their quarters. The servants of the district governors led the march. When Ben Hadad sent messengers, they reported back to him, “Men are marching out of Samaria.” He ordered, “Whether they come in peace or they come for war, take them alive.” They marched out of the city with the servants of the district governors in the lead and the army behind them. Each one struck down an enemy soldier; the Syrians fled and Israel chased them. King Ben Hadad of Syria escaped on horseback with some horsemen. Then the king of Israel marched out and struck down the horses and chariots; he thoroughly defeated Syria.

On the flipside, behold David the king, who was usually wise to ensure the incomers are coming in peace towards him, lest he be betrayed or overwhelmed of them.

[1 Chronicles 12:16-18 ERV] —
Other men from the tribes of Benjamin and Judah also came to David at the fortress. David went out to meet them and said, "If you have come in peace to help me, I welcome you. Join me. But if you have come to spy on me when I have done nothing wrong, may the God of our ancestors see what you did and punish you." Amasai was the leader of the Thirty Heroes. Then the Spirit came on Amasai, and he said, "We are yours, David! We are with you, son of Jesse. Peace, peace to you. Peace to those who help you, because your God helps you." So David welcomed these men into his group and put them in charge of the troops.

Be watchful, be vigilant, and be wise to know both what is coming, and whether the incoming is to your peace or help; or to your destruction, betrayal or to spy on you.
Having assimilated this, let’s view this from the he-goat’s side view as he was going at the ram. Daniel reintroduced the ram as having two horns, and the same ram that was standing by the river Ulai with those great pair of horns (though one horn was greater than the other). So, the ram was still having its two great horns intact, while the he-goat was having just one horn: And yet the he-goat still considered going at war with one horn against the ram that had two horns and was larger in size than the he-goat. Was this a wise warfare strategy or decision?

[Luke 14:31-33 ERV] —
"If a king is going to fight against another king, first he will sit down and plan. If he has only 10,000 men, he will try to decide if he is able to defeat the other king who has 20,000 men. If he thinks he cannot defeat the other king, he will send some men to ask for peace while that king's army is still far away. "It is the same for each of you. You must leave everything you have to follow Me. If not, you cannot be My follower.”
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