jidegirl12:

And how do you know for sure they are not as strong as the man physically ..... just cos I'm not fat doesn't make me weak and besides I'm not a bricklayer so I don't need that much muscle to bring fresh dough home that's what my brain is for and that's why I went to school,

A responsible man will help as much as he can when he sees his wife is tired or busy at work.

What if d wife is always coming home late and tired?....

maclatunji:

At this point, there is no point going on with you. If you can believe this, then you are set in your position.

Note: I haven't said women should not work.

Misconstrued I guess...

jidegirl12:

Ouch!!! .... What a deduction!

So who raised you?

Lol... Good question...

P4VS20: i feel a child raised by both parents is better off that a child raised by either of the two. the ones raised by mom alone end up being bonafide mama's boys, the ones raised by dad alone end up being chauvinistic brutes.

regarding the post : as a guy, there is nothing as sexy as a young wife in stilettos and corporate dress, that is why men fall for their secretaries. lol. so ya a working class wife forsure. sides she needs to make her own cheedars so she can buy the things i would never understand why she needs em.

Gbam!... Simply put...

jidegirl12: Lmao pimpleboy kobo don yeye una! Ori mi o I don laugh tire I almost hit the vehicle in front of me

I was raised solely by a man and I know for sure I turned out too great!

Ahhh ori mi o

Are you saying that for a fact or U r just having fun?

Kobojunkie:

What a sad excuse for a . . .

The simple truth...

Kobojunkie:

Again . . .

Pray tell, what is the difference between a child raised by it's mother and a child raised by it's father? Which one grows up handicapped, unable to fit into society? Which one has the hardest time dealing with relationship, love etc. Which ones have the hardest time developing a healthy self esteem? These are valid questions to ask you since you claim their is a difference and I would appreciate some real answers from you.

There's no answers I give U that 'll b satisfactory... U'll need to experience it 1st hand to get my point....

Sisi_Kill:


[size=4pt]Jeedus! Some men will really go as far as calling themselves dumbos just to get one over women[/size]

But its a simple fact....

Kobojunkie:

How in the world do you know you are right? There are millions of men/women today who were raised by their father(probably mother ran away or maybe died or could not help at all), and they would look at people like you and think to stone you to death for such an utterance.

How dare you declare that men are lower animals than even the baboon and the gorilla and still beat your chest that you are right?

I never said dey are... Can never insinuate such... All I'm saying is, Men generally lack that maternal instincts... U can compare a child raised by a good mother to that by a good father.... D difference will always b clear...

slimchi2k2: @phineboy1pimple
i said depend the kind of girl i marry,but i have a reason of that decision,i think she may underst me and accept the decision for our own good

I hope so BRO... I truly do...

Kobojunkie:

[size=13pt]That question of yours is insulting, you know that right? Are you suggesting that men are INCAPABLE of raising their own kids? Men naturally lack the instincts on what to do when it comes to kids? What men? Are you thinking instead of imb_eciles here?? Even Gorillas know how to raise their own children, let alone the children from other fathers in the pack, but here you are asking me whether a man can care for his own children? Where do you folks get these out of these world insane ideas from? I am seriously disturbed by that question..[/size]

Anywho, for the sake of giving you an answer, of course if we are to assume I am a woman, I will leave my kids with my husband anyday, time or year.

Gosh, that question of yours leaves me sad for Nigeria . . I wonder how many young men out there think what you said makes sense. It really disturbs the mind to think there are people who actually think this way.

I don't knw if U are a dude or a dame but BRO, u knw I'm rite... I'll stick to my gun anytime any day... How many times did ur dad had time to bath U wen U wia a toddler?...


I vividly remember a time my dad used d "Sponge" he was using to scrub me to wash my teeth.... I was pretty young then but I still remember every details till date....

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Readthe below, these things have been posted in this thread before but you clearly didn't read through your own thread before posting replies.
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what happens to these same kids if God forbids the man slumps and dies suddenly?That woman'a husband could loose his job, he could die, he could suffer some form of paralysis that keeps him from being able to work for the rest of his life. What then? How does she survive when she has no job or has a low paying job that will not fetch her enough money to take care of herself and her children?



I don't know whether to laugh or shout at the inanity of this response.

No1 said she shouldn't b gainfully employed... What we are emphasizing is... If what she does will give her d time to b with her family...

maclatunji:

Hehehehe... I like your post. You said it, those women work their socks off. Many do more than that as well. Ideally they shouldn't. OP asked for the ideal and I have stated what my ideal is. Reality may end-up being different. However, I won't lie to myself that it is the best thing.

Going along with your example, how does slaving away and being subject to occasional passes bring about fulfilment for the woman? She still has to get home and perform wifely and motherly duties. She is bound to fail one of these duties at some point.

It is funny how some people scoff at Home Management, it is a demanding job and has great dignity attached to it. I have never said a wife should not work. All I have said is put your family first and don't fool yourself that you are coping when you get home every might spent after a hard day's work and your kids at the mercy of third parties.

Well said BRO... Duffn ma fila 4 U....

Kobojunkie:

Please make sure you understand where @KoboJunkie is coming from before you butcher my logic. The example I gave is no longer a rarity. The last Recession sort of opened the eyes of a lot of conceited individuals out there to the fact that they are not as INVISIBLE as they initially thought. A lot of men lost their jobs and found themselves depending on their wives for support, and they had to force themselves to loose there macho ideals and many of them had to re-structure their lives to adjust to the new reality of life and that reality is that whether you have a cork or v-jay-jay down there, it does not matter at all, either one of you can do the work that is required to protect and provide for the family.

You are right that out her(not in Nigeria typically) the person that makes more does matters. However, you lie when you say it is common place in Nigeria for men whose wives make more to look for ways to help out at home. That has never been common place and still isn't, in Nigeria. Many more, rather than allow the woman to continue to make more, will look for ways they can beat her at all cost. There are tons of examples of unemployed/near-unemployed Nigerian men whose wives make more than they do, that still leave most 100% of the home chores to the already stressed woman. Walk into your average Nigerian market for instance and ask any one of those market women there how her husband helps and you might get an earful of stories of how the men don't contribute much to their lives apart from being fu_ckmaster of the home. This happens to be the typical picture of the Nigerian man even to this day so that one of your friend's decided to start a business(by the way starting a business of what kind? Last I checked it requires you invest more hours than your average 9-to-5 job)

In a nutshell... U r saying naija men don't help out cuz of their huge EGOs rite?...


personally, can U leave your child to be cared for by your husband?.... Knowing fully well that naturally men lack those instincts on what to do wen it comes to kids....

Kobojunkie:

Please make sure you understand where @KoboJunkie is coming from before you butcher my logic. The example I gave is no longer a rarity. The last Recession sort of opened the eyes of a lot of conceited individuals out there to the fact that they are not as INVISIBLE as they initially thought. A lot of men lost their jobs and found themselves depending on their wives for support, and they had to force themselves to loose there macho ideals and many of them had to re-structure their lives to adjust to the new reality of life and that reality is that whether you have a cork or v-jay-jay down there, it does not matter at all, either one of you can do the work that is required to protect and provide for the family.

You are right that out her(not in Nigeria typically) the person that makes more does matters. However, you lie when you say it is common place in Nigeria for men whose wives make more to look for ways to help out at home. That has never been common place and still isn't, in Nigeria. Many more, rather than allow the woman to continue to make more, will look for ways they can beat her at all cost. There are tons of examples of unemployed/near-unemployed Nigerian men whose wives make more than they do, that still leave most 100% of the home chores to the already stressed woman. Walk into your average Nigerian market for instance and ask any one of those market women there how her husband helps and you might get an earful of stories of how the men don't contribute much to their lives apart from being fu_ckmaster of the home. This happens to be the typical picture of the Nigerian man even to this day so that one of your friend's decided to start a business(by the way starting a business of what kind? Last I checked it requires you invest more hours than your average 9-to-5 job)

In a nutshell... U r saying naija men don't help out cuz of their huge EGOs rite?...


personally, can U leave your child to be cared for by your husband?.... Knowing fully well that naturally men lack those instincts on what to do wen it comes to kids....

carefreewannabe: I have a very good job and I am satisfied with the money but I would prefer to be a full time housewife when I have children. And I'd like to have 4.
I know that it is not always possible, though.
I admire every woman who combines a career with family life but from what I have seen so far is that you can't have both. You'll have to make sacrifices somewhere. A career is not compatible with family life. You'll have to work less when your children are little unless you don't hire a nanny. If you do, you have to live with the fact that you are not around your children very much.

Thanks you for being objective...

slimchi2k2: depend,but i will like my wife to manage my things or open shop for her,but not to work under somebody or government

Even if she spent so much money n time studying n acquiring a degree... Come on dude, that's old school...


What I believe a reasonable man should look at is will her career give her time 4 her family....

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It is quite sad really. The truth is, when the husband cooperates with his wife in doing house work and taking care of children, there will not be any need for the wife to kill her dreams and desires and just stay at home doing house work. The keyword is cooperation. Man cooperate with woman and woman cooperate with man, both work together and assist each other, the woman joins the man in earning money and the man joins the woman in doing house work and taking care of the children. I don't see any reason why the men would not want to assist with taking care of their children, afterall they are his children, they bear his name.
I really fear the way Nigerian men have absolutely no qualms in trying to decide what path their wives take in life. For heaven's sake women are also human beings. It is somebody's dreams you are killing when you decide that they should do what YOU want and dispose of their own ambitions.

It 'll b shear wickedness of any man to do that...

The reference @koboJunkie used is usually a rarity... Most times what family look at is who earns more to cater for d family's needs..

I've had friends who left their places of work to venture into businesses in order to assist in catering for the kids....

So who says naija men r not sensitive?...

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why are men considered the heads of the family when women are mentally stronger than them?

Cuz that's how it is... They r to guide, guard n b Guided....

"an example of this are the cats family" the lioness does all d hunting while all d Lion does is to protect the pact n territory....

Kobojunkie: It is sad that there are still those out there who think it is there place to control or say what field their women can or cannot be involved in. . . really sad. But it just goes to show that humans, especially Africans, have a long ways to go.

A woman, like a man, has dreams, likes, desires, wants, etc. There are women out there who are passionate about goals, ideas, you cannot for one second imagine yourself being involved in/with. If your future wife's career is paramount in your making a decision on her, then godspeed. There are however men out there who are choosing more and more to honor their woman's desire, needs, wants, and I hope more and more that more and more of the male species realizes that the world does not revolve around them.

I have a colleague who happens to be one of such men. His wife is a high corporate executive and he happens to be a computer programmer. This man works from home and takes case of the kids. He wakes up to take the kids to school, do the cooking and take care of them after school. His wife comes home in the evening(typical 9 to 5'er) and takes care of whatever is left. This couple of the example I wish for the new generation. They don't have 100% of the details ironed out and they still sit to decide who gets to do what when, but I believe this is where the world should be moving . . . away from the mentality that it is a man's world and the woman is meant for the back seat/born to sit in the back.

That's Y the level of failed marriages are high in d so called advance countries...


As regards ur colleagues case... She's pretty lucky... She has a hubby who has a flexible business n who's Is very understanding...

chaircover:

LOL I had this conversation with a male colleague yesterday morning and you know what we both came up with . . . that women though physically weaker than men, are mentally stronger than men and the mind can push your body to do amazing things . . .

Agree 100%...

[CHocolaTE:
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That's Y there's an option... Leave d "bread winning for d man n do the concentrate on "Breading" him n d Kids....

chaircover:

Depends on what you are asking for. . . . . .. You meet a girl in medical school and you expect her to be a full time housewife? Very unlikely that she is going to agree to your preconditions.

You also have to have a degree of flexibility too when you make these descsions, cos life does throw all sorts of things at you and many many women are the breadwinners not by choice but by the turn of events.

You need to look at the bigger picture. . . .many many many many women balance their jobs and their family together.

Agreed... If U take a closer look at those families, U'll discover that ample time is created for both d Husband n the Children...

Now would U marry a woman who'll ve less time for U n d kids( wen dey come) cuz she earns more than U?...

Enjoy... Lwtmb...



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chaircover: It shouldn't be a one sided decision and the couple needs to both reach an amicable agreement as regards their careers or lack of.

Its all well and good saying you want your wife not to do certain jobs or stay at home as a full time housewife, but if she is trained for a particular type of job that doesn't fall into the husbands remit but that is where her strengths & passion lies, then it will be very selfish of the man to kill those dreams.

What is the point coming home to a miserable, irritable and frustrated wife each evening? besides the whole aim of keeping her at home will be lost anyway.

anyway these are things that should be thrashed out long before the couple decide to get married.

That's Y d question was particularly meant for the "would be"....

Now, would U leave a woman U love so much cuz she refuses to adjust to the preconditions?...

Sky-walker:
Na wa oo. Na these guy dey make my co-workers for here dey look me with one kin bad eye this morning.

Its such a shame...

addictiv: c,mon who wants a full time house wife in this century. intact before i get married to any woman it is of utter most importance to me that she is working...her independence is a vital factor to me. being career conscious is not bad as long as you can balance your roles as a career woman with your roles as a wife and and a mother. and not letting myself or our kids suffer just because you are working. that's the mistake many women make today, guys are not beasts i believe that if a man sees the conscious efforts his woman is making to sustain the family and play her roles at the same time, he would appreciate and even help out without her asking...i admire career women that know how to balance their roles

What if she can't balance both?... What would hapen then?...

Omo Daddy354: Men dis days dnt rily want dia women 2 bcome a liability nd also dnt wnt dem 2b career conscious.... Which 1 we go come be na??

Simple... Don't U tink doing somtin that gives U ample time 4 yur family n also making money is d best compared to growing career wise n making loads of money?....

Mynd_44: But the woman is bad oooo. Nice cut

Cringed wen I saw it...

kulyie: Heheheh this is so funny,but wait o,how come there's no blood stain,no rough edges and skin attachment,anyway she did a good job o.lol

Do U want it experimented on ya?.... Imagine what a sharp serated blade( knife) can do to a BONELESS part of da body....