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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 8:57pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

His first game as a senior player was as an LM. He then started playing more as a AM/CM and playing occasionally out wide.
Here are the positions he played for Schalke
From 07/08 seasons

That's true. .
I never really followed him that much.
Thought it was just a case of a young player being deployed in the only available space. Like in the case of Ante Coric who is the closest thing to Iniesta at the moment, but usually gets played as a winger for Croatia based on his age. He didn't make the World cup though.

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 8:08pm On Jun 17, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Rakitic was an AMF in Seville

You do realize Sevilla played Unai Emery's typical 4-2-3-1? Meaning a double pivoted midfield consisting a CAM and 2 wingers..
As myself and edi287 have been discussing, in a 4-3-3 team with a more fluid CAM (Iniesta) he automatically becomes a CM not a CAM. Same applies to and is visible with him and Modric in Croatia.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 7:58pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

You do know Rakitic started his career as a wide player right?

Please stop basing your assertions on one offs.
he played there occasionally.
Same way Villa played as a false 9 for FCB
Same way Messi played as a false 9 under Guardiola .
Same way Mikel is playing as a CAM now..
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 7:04pm On Jun 17, 2018
Mickael2:


Rakitic?! guy at least if you read newspapers you would know that Rakitic was brought in to replace Iniesta. which formation did Barca play this season?

OMGoodness! i done nearly piss for cloth! grin grin

Barcelona played 4-3-3

Iniesta, plays on the left side of the midfield as a CAM. Rakitic has NEVER played in that position, even when he was in Sevila.
What are you talking about?
Rakitic was bought to replace Xavi.
Sergi Roberto was actually suppose to replace iniesta as he is a natural CAM, but he is considered not good enough, and thus has to settle for the RB position in place of Semedo.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 6:54pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

Oh and to end this debate, read this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playmaker

Advanced Player - " The most complete and versatile playmakers are often known as advanced playmakers, or free role playmakers, as they can operate both in central, attacking midfield positions, as well as in wider positions on the wings. [/b]The attacking playmakers are sometimes called the "number 10" of the team, as they often wear the number 10 jersey[b]. The attacking midfield playmaker will sit in a free role between the midfield and the forwards, either in the centre of the pitch or on either flank. 
They are also usually quick, agile, and highly technical players with good vision, shooting, passing, crossing and dribbling ability; they are known for scoring goals as well as providing assists, through-balls, and initiating attacking plays. In Italian football, as creative, technical, advanced playmakers are known not to be reserved to a single position, they are often described as the "fantasista" or "trequartista".[2] In Brazil, the offensive playmaker is known as the "meia atacante",whereas in Argentina, it is known as the "enganche". Diego Maradona and Zico are notable examples of attacking midfield playmakers.

[/b]Deep-lying playmakers, who often wear jersey numbers 8, 6 or 5 (in particular in South American Football), operate from a deep position, in or even behind the main midfield line in a seemingly central or defensive midfield role, where they can use space and time on the ball to dictate the tempo of their team's play and orchestrate the moves of the whole team, not just attacks on goal. Deep-lying playmakers are often known for their vision, technique and passing. Many are also known for their ability to switch the play or provide long passes that pick out players making attacking runs, as well as their striking ability from distance[b]. Although several deep-lying playmakers are not known for their tackling, work-rate, or defensive skills, it has become more common for a box-to-box midfielder with good passing, technique, vision and ball-winning ability, such as Xabi Alonso, to play in this role, since it is in a similar position to that of a defensive midfielder, and the role allows them to break down plays and subsequently create scoring opportunities themselves after winning back possession. In Italy, the deep-lying playmaker is known as a "regista",whereas in Brazil, it is known as a "meia-armador".
Xavi, Andrea Pirlo, Luka Modrić, Michael Carrick, and Pep Guardiola are some examples of deep-lying playmakers.

I have seen that before, I even went ahead to check on reddit, but didn't use it due to the point I will state below.
But you are missing the point here by miles .
I stated in my other post, nobody plays 4-4-2 anymore.
It is pretty much a generational tactical thing.
Football is evolving and things are changing.
Take a look at the redened in your post quoted above and tell me what you notice.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 6:47pm On Jun 17, 2018
Spy360:

Your understanding of football positions is obsolete brother.

Xhaka is not a DM. He is a playmaker for Arsenal. Wenger does not usually deploy a DM, which !explains why his team is so defensively exposed.

What superned is trying to explain is what most managers apply today.

Mikel would have easily bossed that midfield had he played deeper.

Iwobi is better off as a CAM that a winger as he tends to play with the ball close to feet.

A 3-5-2 formation without Shehu but with Iheanacho could have matched the Croatians better.


LMAO! @edi287 Abeg come see oh..
Sports / Re: Taiwo Awoniyi And Taiwo Jesudun White Wedding Photos by phreakabit(m): 6:16pm On Jun 17, 2018
Congrats ooo
The "young" man is in a hurry. . . grin grin

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 6:12pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

No I'm not. You can not call a DLP a "10". 10s are Trequestira and create much closer to goal. Xavi creates from deep.
You can have CMs. When Elneny plays with Xhaka, both don't bomb forward as much as Ramsey does. So its obviously a tactical thing.
Xavi is closer to a Regista than a 10.

This is absolutely ridiculous!
The terms you use are just terms created by Italian tacticians!
They do not apply generally.
Elneny plays as a CM with Xhaka in the absence of Whilshere!
When Xhaka is absent Elneny becomes the 4!
Okocha played as a 10 in a 4-4-2 formation, but was always deep in the midfield and pushed the attack from the depth!

Just to illustrate

=======================9
=================8 (SS/CAM)
====11 ========================== 7
============10

=========================4

PS: You might want to check Arsenals forum goonersworld.co.uk to ask what Xhaka actually plays as. He is a DM, a piss poor one though.
Sports / Re: Germany Vs Mexico: World Cup 2018 (0 - 1) On 17th June 2018 by phreakabit(m): 5:57pm On Jun 17, 2018
This is a team that means business!
Not photo taking shaku shaku boys.

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:55pm On Jun 17, 2018
fabyom:
Your father, your mother, your sister, your brothers, your fore fathers are not only apes, they monkeys, gorillas, chimpanzees and dogsss

LMAO!
You seem pained. They say truth hurts.
I am indifferent about your words because they are mare insults.
However, you are mad as hell, because my words are true.
Nwa King Kong!

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Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:53pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

Ozil is an AM aka a 10. Jack Wilshere when he starts is a CM. In Arsenal's traditional 4-2-3-1, Ozil is the AM, Ramsey is the CM aka B2b aka an 8 and Xhaka is a Regista.
Just because Ramsey makes 3rd man late runs into the box doesn't mean he's a support striker.


You are validating my argument here.
You can't have two CM's in a 4-2-3-1 hence the advanced CM becomes a CAM. . .
BTW did you notice Ozil's role in todays game? That's down to the formation the coach deploys.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:40pm On Jun 17, 2018
fabyom:
God punish you. Dem swear for you. Do not try shit with me motherfucker.
You can now see who the domesticated baboon is. My knowledgeable brothers are schooling you miserable self

The true tendencies of a domesticated Ape appears.
Now crawl back to the filthy hole from whence you came.
You domesticated ape's descendant.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:21pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

Oh and Xavi is not a "10" in a 4-3-3. That's the real argument
Xavi is the 10!
Thiago plays the exact role Xavi plays and he is currently Bayern's and Spain's 10.
They are deep lying PLAYMAKERS. . . emphasis on PLAYMAKER.
A CM balances and coordinates
A CAM creates chances, and acts as an interface.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:18pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

So Ozil is an "8" in a 4-2-3-1? What is Ramsey and Lampard in a 4-3-3?
What do you think Wilshere plays ?
Why do you think Ozil plays advanced when Wilshere plays and Ramsey plays as a support striker?
Ever heard of the term free role?
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:15pm On Jun 17, 2018
Mickael2:



brother not every formation has a CAM. In fact Barca's formation does not exactly have one. in a 4-3-3 formation you cannot have an 8, rather you have a double 10 or a double 4, Barca played with a double 4 in most cases but it was a hybrid with Xavi frequently changing it to a double10 while attacking. You only have an 8 in some formations not all

LMAO!!!!! You guys keep clowning yourselves.
Check my last post yes, not all formations have CAM. Check what i wrote!
But for your info I have been a Barca fan for well over 18 years, I am even a member of their forum and I can tell you Iniesta is a CAM
Coutinho was bought to play as a CM and displace the unskillful Rakitic, but he couldn't play the role, because he kept attacking, hence his switch to Iniesta's role... In the forum we all refer to Don Andres as a CAM..
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:12pm On Jun 17, 2018
edi287:

Dude is mixing an 8 and a 10 up. Maradona and Zidane must have been an 8 to him

LMAO! You are seriously clowning yourself here. You clearly know nothing about football.
When you have a CAM 8, you don't need an advanced role CM .
in 4-4-2 You have One DM 2 CMs and/or a CM and CAM/SS and a Striker.
Hence Zidane's and Maradona's advanced roles.
Football has evolved, nobody plays 4-4-2 anymore.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 5:05pm On Jun 17, 2018
fabyom:
you should ask yourself if you get sense not me. If xavi is a ten, then what is iniesta's position and if Pirlo is a ten what is del pierro or totti's position.

You are a clown.
Iniesta is an 8 in the 4-3-3 formation
You have a DM Busquets , A CM Xavi and CAM Iniesta stop reasoning like a domesticated baboon( I am sorry for insulting baboons with this comparison) and go get informed before coming to test your superior.
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 4:50pm On Jun 17, 2018
fabyom:
How in hell can you have a snail as number 10. See how to play modern day 10. Pace, power, instinct, forward pass. Omo see football. OMDayzzzz

You get sense? Abi mouth dey scratch you?
What do you know about the work of a 10/CM (not CAM)
Was Xavi fast? Was Pirlo fast? most of you watch tv and judge by what the player is wearing....
Most players you see wearing 10 are actually playing 8 (CAM or AM depending on formation).
An 8 requires a decent speed, a 10 doesn't.
For your info Mikel played as an 8(CAM) yesterday in a messed up formation.
He is actually best suited for a deep lying playmaker role = 10...
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by phreakabit(m): 4:43pm On Jun 17, 2018
3-4-2-1
3-5-2
3-6-1
4-1-2-1-2 (shape shifting)
4-1-4-1
4-5-1

All available options to us, I don't know what formation we played yesterday.
There was No triangle passing or positioning, No high pressing, players were too far away from each other, I wasn't sure if we were playing a high line defense or not... I just weak!
I am not a coach, but have read more than enough tactical analysis to know a poor formation when I see one.

With the AMAZING amount of fast players in the team we could actually even play Thomas Tuchel's crazy 3-1-2-4 formation and cause serious damage to conservative teams. We have all the requirements to play that formation effectively.

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Crime / Re: Anambra Gay Principal Owns Shrines, Church by phreakabit(m): 4:18pm On Jun 17, 2018
So he was caught in the act, and yet somehow escaped!
Wow what an action movie this is.
The guy na 007.
Abeg try again. .
#Fakenews

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Croatia: World Cup - 0 - 2 On 16th June 2018 by phreakabit(m): 4:14pm On Jun 17, 2018
3-4-2-1
3-5-2
3-6-1
4-1-2-1-2 (shape shifting)
4-1-4-1
4-5-1


All available options to us, I don't know what formation we played yesterday.
There was no triangle passing or positioning, I just weak!
I am not a coach, but have read more than enough tactical analysis to know a poor formation when I see one.

With the AMAZING amount of fast players in the team we could actually even play Thomas Tuchel's crazy 3-1-2-4 formation and cause serious damage to conservative teams. We have all the requirements to play that formation effectively.
Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Croatia: World Cup - 0 - 2 On 16th June 2018 by phreakabit(m): 4:09pm On Jun 17, 2018
IAmAmbrose:
The coach contributed to our downfall... How can u play mikel in number 10 role and shift iwobi to the wing... Thats trash

secondly the only friendly simy nwankwo played for Nigeria he used it to register more shots on target than Ighalo full Nigerian career..

Thirdly Moses that they won't even allow to take throwing for chelsea is the person responsible for corner kicks and freekick... smh

the only Moses we know that can cross.. Is the Moses in the bible.. At least he crossed something:/

Do you even know the difference between a CM and CAM
Mikel is a CM like Xavi and Pirlo i.e deep lying playmaker the true number 10
Iwobi is a CAM like Iniesta and David Silva, they act as the intermediary/interface between the midfield and attack
rightfully Iwobi should be playing Mikel's CURRENT (no8) position, being more of a CAM than Mikel.... but Mikel is actually a no10 don't get it confused.
Pets / Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by phreakabit(m): 1:52pm On Jun 17, 2018
Groovenaija360:
I hate dogs, no matter how good you treat Dem when they see poo they will still eat it undecided undecided
Your dogs are starving that's why..

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Pets / Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by phreakabit(m): 1:49pm On Jun 17, 2018
Iamtipsyy:
I have lots of dogs never fed them raw meat, does it increase aggression or is that a myth

Not more aggressive, more likely to eat you...or someone else.

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Pets / Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by phreakabit(m): 1:42pm On Jun 17, 2018
Oluwafreshing:
Boss don't feed him raw soya. Cos soya beans could be poisonous. Cook it. You can prepare it like semo.

Cyanide..

Soak, Peel, the roast mildly before grinding..
I don't support raw meat either. Worm infestation and diseases might occur. Also your dog is going to become a vicious carnivorous animal...a danger to kids.

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Business / Re: Shoprite Ilorin Shut Down After Massive Crowd Stormed Their Store (Photos) by phreakabit(m): 8:47am On Jun 17, 2018
YorobAbokis have turn Shoprite to family leisure outing destination...
Same thing happens is Lagos and Ibadan

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Politics / Re: President Buhari Calls Super Eagles On Phone: #World Cup 2018 by phreakabit(m): 10:22pm On Jun 16, 2018
Bet why na? WHY?!!!!
This man just dash them foreign bad luck!

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Croatia: World Cup - 0 - 2 On 16th June 2018 by phreakabit(m): 10:18pm On Jun 16, 2018
HOW I WANT TAKE SLEEP THIS NIGHT NOW?

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Croatia: World Cup - 0 - 2 On 16th June 2018 by phreakabit(m): 10:11pm On Jun 16, 2018
Who get scientific calculator oh?
Let our true work as 9ja supporters begin.
Permutation time? Blessing time...

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Croatia: World Cup - 0 - 2 On 16th June 2018 by phreakabit(m): 10:08pm On Jun 16, 2018
ADRIAN88:



So daz how u just deny your country overnight.

My name na Mazinho, Mazi for short.

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Politics / Re: President Buhari Calls Super Eagles On Phone: #World Cup 2018 by phreakabit(m): 10:07pm On Jun 16, 2018
BAD LUCK BUHATAN!!!
I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG!!!!

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Croatia: World Cup - 0 - 2 On 16th June 2018 by phreakabit(m): 10:06pm On Jun 16, 2018
Where my Brazilian flag and jersey abeg?

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