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[size=14pt]JESUS Christ Was NEVER Crucified[/size]

Before the arrival of Jesus (pbuh) and in the Old Testament of the Bible, GOD has always forgiven sins even without any blood sacrifice for anyone who sincerely repented and turned away from their sins. If Jesus died, then he died in vain. There really was no need for Jesus to die for the sins of mankind when GOD has always forgiven sins through sincere repentance, and He continues to do so till this day because His Mercy and Nature to #forgive doesn’t change. There’s enough evidence in both the OT and NT of Bible that repentance of sins is required upon everyone in order to be forgiven. Even if a Christian believes that Jesus died for their sins, they still have to repent for their new sins, right? Yes…so this means that Jesus’ alleged crucifixion wasn’t a full sacrifice, so again he died in vain!

JESUS WAS RAISED UP :

[b]According to Islam Jesus (pbuh) was raised up to God alive and was never crucified. God carried Jesus up to heaven in a whirlwind at some point during Jesus’ life like he did with Elijah. Whether or not God did this because Jesus faced a crucifixion is uncertain. The crucifixion of Jesus is not an attested historical event and may have been nothing more than Paul’s invention. However, if Jesus were in some kind of trouble, God would have raised him up before the evil deed was inflicted on him. As a former Christian I know this is not easy to accept at first glance. In fact, when I first heard this I could not believe the audacity to make such a statement! That changed when I learned that the phenomenon of pulling prophets off the face of the earth had happened before in the Bible. There could never be a better time for it to happen again.
“And when Allah said: O Isa (Jesus), I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so I will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.” [Qur’an 3:55]

HERE ARE SOME OTHER SITUATIONS IN THE BIBLE WHERE GOD DID THIS BEFORE:

“Enoch was sixty-five years old when he begot Metuselah. After the birth of Methuselah, Enoch walked with God for three hundred years, and had other sons and daughters. He lived three hundred and sixty-five years. Enoch walked with God, and then was seen no more, because God had taken him away.” [Genesis 5:21-24]
“They went on, talking as they went, and suddenly there appeared a chariot of fire and horses of fire, which separated them from one another, and Elijah was carried up to heaven in a whirlwind. At the sight Elisha cried out, My #father, my father, the chariot and the horsemen of Israel! and he saw him no more. He picked up the cloak that had fallen from Elijah and went back and stood on the bank of the Jordan.” [2 Kings 2:11-13]

HERE’S A CLEVER CONTRADICTION REGARDING THE RESURRECTION:

“And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said this, he gave up the ghost.” [Luke 23:46]
According to above verse Jesus (pbuh) gave up the spirit to God. If Jesus is part of the Trinity of God, the son, and the Holy Ghost, then why is it that he had to give up his spirit to God which is in #Heaven if he is the same person? Did he borrow the spirit while God was spiritless in Heaven? #Astaghfirullah!
“Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not: for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say vnto them, I ascend vnto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.” [#John 20:17]
This is said to have occured only after the #resurrection, but it is apparent that according to this verse Jesus had not yet ascended, contradicting the verse of #Luke 23:43 when Jesus said to the theif on the cross; “TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN #PARADISE“.
So where was Jesus between the time he gave up his spirit to God and the time he returned back to earth if he never ascended in the first place? Isn’t this a clear contradiction and something to ponder over? This suggests that Jesus (pbuh) never died. And it is also clear in this text that Jeus has a God so he himself cannot be God!

THEY PLOTTED AND PLANNED BUT #ALLAH ALSO PLANNED:

“And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah” but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared to so to them [the resemblance of ‘Isa (Jesus) was put on another man (and they killed that man). and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not—nay, Allah raised him up (with his body and soul) unto Himself. And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.” [Qur’an 4:157-158]

EVIDENCE IN THE BIBLE THAT GOD HEARD JESUS’ PRAYER TO BE SAVED FROM THE CROSS:

“My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, ‘O my God, if it be possible, let this cup (death) pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.” [Matthew 26:38-39]
“And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.” [Luke 22:44]
“(Jesus), Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him (God) that was able to save him from death, and was heard (answered) in that he feared.” [Hebrews 5:7]
“And Jesus saith, for with God all things are possible.” [Mark 10:27]
“For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect and guard you. And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’” [Luke 4:10-11]
“For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name: He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honor him. With long life will I satisfy him, and show him my salvation.” [Psalm 91:11-16]
There is no question that the emphasized parts above, especially in Psalm 91:11-16 and others, clearly and indisputably agree with the Qur’an and Isaiah 52:13! Jesus was neither crucified nor resurrected, and he was protected and lifted by GOD. Also, the New Testament, again, confirms that Psalm 91 is referring to Jesus.

A. GOD will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).
B. GOD will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).
C. Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).
D. Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:.
E. No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10….this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).
F. GOD will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.
G. Christ’s call will be HEARD, and he will be delivered and honored (Psalm 91:15, Isaiah 52:13). No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.
In conclusion Psalm 91 is speaking as a number of Prophecies that will take place. Notice how the verses are speak of future events that will take place. Never once throughout the entire New Testament were the Angels sent to save Jesus from striking his foot against a rock. This, again, clearly proves that the NT is indeed false and corrupt.
The Bible is in clear contradiction with itself regarding Jesus’ alleged crucifixion and in everything else that it essentially talks about. It can not be trusted nor taken very seriously to base a serious faith on. At best, one would only be speculating when he tries to use the Bible to prove anything. Islam is the only Religion, which is by the way also the Only True and uncorrupt Divine Religion remaining today, that confirms the Truth in the Bible and removes the falsehood from it.

WE BEAR OUR OWN SINS:

“No one can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for them—the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough.” [Psalm 49:7-8]
“No soul can carry the sins of another soul. If a soul that is full with sins implores another to bear part of its load, no other soul can carry any part of it, even if they were related. The only people to heed your warnings are those who fear their Lord, even when alone in their privacy, and observe the Contact Prayers. Whoever purifies his soul, does so for his own good. To Allah is the final destiny.” [Qur’an 35:18]
“The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” [Deuteronomy 24:16]

THE SIGN OF THE PROPHET JONAH:

Jesus said, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” [Matthew 12:39-40 KJV]
Jesus (pbuh) made it very clear that he will not die because his condition will be like Jonah’s, meaning ALIVE! Second point is that the heart of the earth is not suggesting that he was or would be buried underground as Christians claim is meant by this part. According to Christians and the scriptures, Jesus’ body was placed above ground in a tomb so therefore this doesn’t line up with the prophesy. Last point is that the ”heart of the earth” is ironically the center of the earth. Geographically the center of the earth is Mekkah where the previous prophets of God paid their homage to the House that Abraham built which is known as the Kab’ba. So by the overwhelming evidences, Jesus was raised up to Almighty God alive and wasn’t crucified as Christians believe he was…it’s really just that simple!
Note that the Kab’ba is the very same place where millions of Muslims visit every year for Hajj (pilgrimage), so it is highly probable that Jesus himself fulfilled his pilgrimage too! This verse in Matthew 12:39 does not support the Christian’s weak interpretation suggesting that Jesus died and was resurrected three days later. Logical thinking must be applied here without prejudice.

3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS?

According to the NT of the Bible, Whoever was crucified, was executed on Friday at about the 6th hour (Mark 14:12-17 & 15:23) and taken down later that evening at about the 9th hour (Mark 15:34 & Matthew 27:51-52) because the Jews did not want to break the Sabbath. Then very early on Sunday morning when some women came to the tomb to annoint the body with spices, the body was mysteriously gone! So from Friday to Saturday is 1 full day, and from Saturday to early Sunday morning is a half a day. The total is 1 and a half days, equivelant to roughly 36 hours not a full 72 hours that would equal 3 whole days, so this prophesy failed…WOW![/b][/s]

Why is it that an extreme muslim will strap a bomb to himself and blow up innocent people. Whereas an extreme christian will knock on your door and tell you Jesus died for you so that you can have life in abundance. He is the giver of "life" come to him etc.

Does this means that MUSLIMS love death and CHRISTIANS love life? Come to think of it, we have a very limited time on this earth and should be spent embracing life.

Why waste it trying to get to the afterlife prematurely. Why are Christians not killing to spread the gospel? Why are Muslims killing to dominate the world and promote islam?

Oya, make una answer. Insults are not welcome. Just lipsrsealed if you have some insults to throw. smiley

Jay542:
Cos certain people use hijab doesn't make them Muslims. Mia Khalifa claims she's a Muslim and is still amongst highest paid pornst~r and she uses hijab to act her pornogr~phy, does that make her a Muslim or she's just acting? If them Boko haram are Muslims, I wonder why they're bombing mosques equally.
All these people are just actors and impersonators, nothing more.
I'll suggest you do a deep research about the Isis and the rest of the so-called Islamic terrorist group. Study their attacks. Go on YouTube. Read more on Osama. Read about American Government and westernization. If you've used more than 20G of your data on this, then you're getting there. If not, then there's no point for this. Go in-depth about this terrorism if you really want to know about it and go with a neutral mind.

annunaki2:
True muslims are those who emulate the sunnah of mohammed and follow his teachings to the letter. All authentic islamic texts confirm to us that mohammed was a notorious terrorist, mass murderer, rapist and psychopath. I will never justify what is bad, I am just pointing out to you that mohammed was a bad person and Islam a bad religion. If you don't like what is bad, renounce Islam today.

hanity:
first reason why they wont shout jesus is because they have little or no believe in him

secondly what do you know about the Quran?

Then talking about my Religion hurting people:Scientist have always ended up agreeing with my religion.

Lastly,why is it that only muslims end up being terrorist in the sight of people like you,what of People like Hitler,people like gbagbo of cote'voire,you'll hear people say world greatest dictator and the likes
Get your self out of ignorance before you try to act like you know more than others!

TopeQs:
I can't kill.....

MY NAME IS ABDULRASHEED AND I'M NOT A TERRORIST

hanity:
When you say things according to the way they appear to you then i have no other choice than to sit here and cry for you cause your lack of believe i pray doesnt end you up in a situation where you'll pray for just a sec to come back and make things right but my its all gone My dear.It's better to keep quite than speak evil.

Perhaps:
And apparently, you must have good eye sight.
Oponu, ode.

Blackfire:
'the meccans side of the story'..

Underate islam... And u will regret it.

ajokebelle:
This people again,what is their problem abeg.
Some people will start saying its a religion of peace, while bokoharam, Fulani herdsmen, Isis,alqaeda, alshabab, Hezbollah all show us what the religion really stands for.

Blackfire:
*a grand sheik enters*.
The women where shot while attacking the kaffri police will inherit 72 virgin male wearing G-string.
Those arrested ladies are all part of kitman and deen of al mumini.
I hope u know france and all europe belongs to muhamed and his al majiris.

*sips camel piss*.

Anyother question young lady?

2kaybiel:
If muhammed had believed in Jesus Christ, the statement issued in quran 5:51 wouldn't have been issued.
If muhammed had believed Jesus Christ he wouldn't have changed the direction of his prayer from Jerusalem to elsewhere.
If muslims believe/had believed Jesus Christ, love would have been the centre of their teaching.
If Muslims believe/had believed Jesus Christ, an average muslim would not have deep hatred to the followers of Jesus Christ knowing fully well, that they would be made superior to Muslims quran 3:55
Therefore, ustaz you know that each time you kill and burn things that belong to the follower of Jesus Christ, you have this exceeding happiness that yes, you will make al-janah-fildau.
If muhammed and musims had believed Jesus Christ, muhammed won't have killed the Jews back then.
Yes, you never believed Jesus Christ at all.

FriendChoice:
Jesus first have Islam and last he has Islam. Jesus was never a Christian. He is a Muslim

mustymatic:
LoL ...christians

Jay542:
Op this thread was created to incite insult amongst religions and you knew that. I guess we know what your christianity is preaching after all.
These kind of post doesn't breed healthy conversation. because people call Allah before they kill doesn't make them Muslims. They are not Muslims. Face your religion make others face their own. Nobody holy pass.

anibi9674:
cathedral!! wetin Muslims and Christians day even drag self. why not attack government facilities if you want your voice to be heard. But do you guys have a voice?

Cell of French women guided by Isis behind failed Notre Dame attack
Police say another operation was planned by group, one of whom had been engaged to two men who carried out deadly attacks

A cell of radicalised French women guided by Islamic State commanders in Syria was behind a failed terrorist attack near Paris’s Notre Dame Cathedral last weekend and planned another violent attack this week before they were intercepted by police, the Paris prosecutor has said.

The women, aged 19, 23 and 39, were arrested in Boussy-Saint-Antoine, a small town 19 miles (30km) south-east of Paris, on Thursday night after they were linked to the discovery of a car packed with gas cylinders parked near the cathedral last weekend. Officials said the women had been planning an imminent violent attack on the busy Gare de Lyon station in Paris and were stopped after a police and intelligence operation described as a “race against time”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/09/cell-of-french-women-radicalised-by-isis-behind-failed-notre-dame-attack

annunaki2:
I already stated that it was a parable, abi you are so ignorant that you don't know what a parable is

HMZi:
bro thats y xtainity is always open to critisisms,its unlike islam that y'll feel the nid to murder when critisisms start...u guys tel kids that jews and xtains r ur enemies(heard a mallam teln his almajiri during talatu)
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its a fine point u raised and its wrong to pray in such a fashion,its best we trust and obey GOD,he will protect u...u c i accepted ur critisism without insult or violence...shalom

aminusanti:
open question indeed! Rubbish
Define the above bolded properly if u want your queries to b answered.
if u want to define EXTREME in the negative way then y can't you apply sincerity for once to mention about ur
Extreme christian pastors that are on news every day for rituals, rape etc
Pls Keep talking, i bliv someday you'll say something intelligent!

lepasharon:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343562/Planned-Parenthood-murder-suspect-vandalized-abortion-clinic-years-ago-according-ex-wife.html

The man accused of murdering three people in an attack on a Planned Parenthood facility had vandalized another clinic years before, his ex-wife has claimed.

Barbara Mescher Micheau, who was the second wife of Robert Lewis Dear, 57, until the pair split in 1993, said he once bragged about gluing the doors of an abortion clinic in Charleston shut.

Micheau, who previously accused Dear of abusing her, added that while Dear never spoke about Planned Parenthood, he considered himself an Evangelical Christian who was 'against abortion'

annunaki2:
Acts 11:26

26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

That said the name of the book or who named it doesn't matter, it's the contents that matter and fact remains that the bible had been canonised and named for at least 300 years before that Arab barbarian who plagiarised and remixed it then named his contraption the quoran was born.

jelel6:
its written or you think its written. by the way who named the book bible in the first place?

Why is it that an extreme muslim will strap a bomb to himself and blow up innocent people?

malvisguy212:
"work out your salvation" ? Are you a christian ? Islamic religion encourage death by suicide and any religion that encourage death is from satan.

lepasharon:
OP what you on about. An extreme Christian will shoot up an abortion clinic.

RadicallyBlunt:
Well. What I don't understand is how an extremist of a "PEACEFUL RELIGION" would confidently take a life that he didn't create or have the power to create and then thinks d PEACEFUL GOD is proud of him for such an act.

Only the ALMIGHTY have the power and authority to create and end a human life. Over animals, he gave us the right to kill and consume them and even in doing so, were to observe some prayers and take d animals life with sanctity not with violence let alone a human life.

I still find it difficult to comprehend the psychological stability of violently taking an innocent life and then think God is proud of you for such an act...I don't know. Or is it that I'm too conscience-stricken. Maybe I can be enlightened.

jelel6:
op who is a christian ? That word "christian" didnt come out from jesus' mouth or anywhere in the bible. what is the name jesus called his followers with?

Why is it that an extreme muslim will strap a bomb to himself and blow up innocent people?

nextprince:
And any prayer without invoking on holy ghost fire is not complete. Christians are the worst hypocrites I have ever seen.

Rich4god:
An extreme xtian will tell you that your brother/sister/parent/village people are behind your downfall, therefore you should pray that they might die.(die by fire) not even repent...


Plz, face your religion and work out your salvation.... Let others be...

Why is it that an extreme muslim will strap a bomb to himself and blow up innocent people.