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Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by igbesachick: 9:01am On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
this your reply shows that you do not understand the argument and I should not have engaged you. You have been agreeing with me that copying the west gives the best results. I won't engage you any further
china copies the west ?

if so, why china is depicted as the antipode of the west ? why the propaganda is fraught with "righteous democratic west VS vicious freedomless china" ?

at least, the west itself does not view china as a copycat . china may copy the cheap stuff, as a business starter and a way to earn money in the less developed countries for the lower budget customers. but basically china and west are different.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by igbesachick: 9:07am On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
this your reply shows that you do not understand the argument and I should not have engaged you. You have been agreeing with me that copying the west gives the best results. I won't engage you any further
you are so funny !

if chinse dont produce bycicles because UK has invented it, then chinese should invent flying mattress instead , as a symbol of cultural superiority ?

nonody can walk a different way ! we all need to eat ! british eat with utensils, so we need to either NOT eat or to eat with some high tec alien technologic utensils ?
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by selemempe: 9:07am On Mar 28, 2021
igbesachick:
china copies the west ?

if so, why china is depicted as the antipode of the west ? why the propaganda is fraught with "righteous democratic west VS vicious freedomless china" ?

at least, the west itself does not view china as a copycat . china may copy the cheap stuff, as a business starter and a way to earn money in the less developed countries for the lower budget customers. but basically china and west are different.
Again he agrees with me. undecided What does the west copy from China
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by igbesachick: 9:07am On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
this your reply shows that you do not understand the argument and I should not have engaged you. You have been agreeing with me that copying the west gives the best results. I won't engage you any further
you are so funny !

if chinse dont produce bycicles because UK has invented it, then chinese should invent flying mattress instead , as a symbol of cultural superiority ?

nobody can walk a different way ! we all need to eat ! british eat with utensils, so we need to either NOT eat or eat with some high tec alien technologic utensils ?
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by igbesachick: 9:15am On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
Again he agrees with me. undecided What does the west copy from China
up till now, very few. because the world became one in 18th century after the industrial revolution. and before that , the inventions of china were contained in china and benifited the world little. and the west invented the counterparts years later too.

but what is this to do with chinese repulsing west culture while welcoming technologies alone?

and, this thread is about a clothes ! that is culture thing.

the richer a non-west country is, the more fiecely it repulses the west culture. see saudi arab and japan
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by gaventa: 9:18am On Mar 28, 2021
Lol if you don’t know about the history of retail stores then you can’t think beyond the box. You are not a deep thinker.
blueAgent:
You are a fool if you don't know the difference between a Mall and a market.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by igbesachick: 9:43am On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
Again he agrees with me. undecided What does the west copy from China
Bra was invented in 18th century for the protection of the female workers and the tidiness of the prodction line.

If african or chinese led the first industrial revolution, these ppl would invent bras too.

the point is , why westerners be the first to the threshold of modern world ? it is not about whether chinese or aftican should or should not wear bras after the british invented bras.

of course today our women wear them the same, is it a stigma of inferiority ? shall we wear underwear on our chest instead to prove we are different but same superior as the brits ?

that said, westerners have other culture weirds , they like museums, they drink coffee, we dont need to follow them.

it is you who agree with me. you did say food and music are not counted (as important factors), and you also acknowledge the importance of technologies. so what is our disparity? i even allow the important influence of freedom of culture over the technologies.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by zolajpower: 9:49am On Mar 28, 2021
Lagoon0:
What's my definition of stupidly undecided
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by selemempe: 9:54am On Mar 28, 2021
igbesachick:
Bra was invented in 18th century for the protection of the female workers and the tidiness of the prodction line.

If african or chinese led the first industrial revolution, these ppl would invent bras too.

the point is , why westerners be the first to the threshold of modern world ? it is not about whether chinese or aftican should or should not wear bras after the british invented bras.

of course today our women wear them the same, is it a stigma of inferiority ? shall we wear underwear on our chest instead to prove we are different but same superior as the brits ?

that said, westerners have other culture weirds , they like museums, they drink coffee, we dont need to follow them.

it is you who agree with me. you did say food and music are not counted (as important factors), and you also acknowledge the importance of technologies. so what is our disparity? i even allow the important influence of freedom of culture over the technologies.
lol.. you have just been agreeing with me lately. It's either you don't know how to articulate your points during an argument or you had no points in the first place

The whites have invented cloths...why is the man who this thread is about dressing like a babarian to uphold an archaic culture. Is dressing modern a sign of inferiority just because modern cloths were invented by whites. No!! You agree with me already.

Case closed
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by igbesachick: 10:28am On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
lol.. you have just been agreeing with me lately. It's either you don't know how to articulate your points during an argument or you had no points in the first place

The whites have invented cloths...why is the man who this thread is about dressing like a babarian to uphold an archaic culture. Is dressing modern a sign of inferiority just because modern cloths were invented by whites. No!! You agree with me already.

Case closed
well, it is his freedom to wear whatever clothes he feels like. if the mall needs accoutrement requirement for entry, it needs to notify, as malls in china and japan do on their front doors. i think he is totally ok. he is just confident with his culture(whether you call it culture or not) , with the ease shown by his dress.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 11:00am On Mar 28, 2021
gaventa:
Lol if you don’t know about the history of retail stores then you can’t think beyond the box. You are not a deep thinker.
See you consoling yourself.

Make I pity you, we dey Easter.


https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/retail/#the-history-and-evolution-of-retail-stores
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 11:04am On Mar 28, 2021
Lagoon0:
Is that your reason for bringing iPhone to this issue?

Lol, I've seen your funny stand cheesy
Is iPhone and western technology of Africa origin?

If we decide or claim that everyman should stick to his culture and products of its civilisation, do you think you will have the privilege of having that phone you are using to type?

A peoples culture is a direct product of their religeon which also influences or determines their level of civilisation.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by 9jaRealist: 11:31am On Mar 28, 2021
IronGalaxy:
The very same cloth his carrying is the same cloth he was covered in...duh?
So you think he was turned away because of the quality of the cloth? Duh...
Dude, he was NOT covered. If he was, he wouldn’t have been turned away. SMH

TMKsouth:
I think the blanket was open on the front exposing the skimpy shorts.
Thanks...
Didn’t see your post, or I wouldn’t have bothered with his obduracy.
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Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by Lagoon0: 11:58am On Mar 28, 2021
blueAgent:
Is iPhone and western technology of Africa origin?

If we decide or claim that everyman should stick to his culture and products of its civilisation, do you think you will have the privilege of having that phone you are using to type?

A peoples culture is a direct product of their religeon which also influences or determines their level of civilisation.
I don't understand what you meant by west technology. Japan has the best technology does technology belongs to Japan?
Samsung is Korea
Alexander grahambell invented telephone . many has contributed to it.
Ancient Chinese try to build flying object but Leonardo davinci constructed the idea and no one knew till he died.

Wilbur and ovil the wright brother later invented aircraft.
Technology belongs to no one. The earliest technology began in Africa .

So you're just a brilliant illiterate . I'm a physicist I'm a western? Do I owe westerners anything?
Philosophy has many Greek on its record doesn't mean philosophy began in Rome.

Let be guided with what we don't know much about
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by IronGalaxy: 12:07pm On Mar 28, 2021
Auxtin85:
Lol I live in Oakdene Park Johannesburg South Africa
Your comment still has no basis in reality none whatsoever. I pretty much doubt you live in SA
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by 2kurupt(m): 12:19pm On Mar 28, 2021
TMKsouth:
Had there been no colonisation "Nigeria" wouldn't exist either. Think about it.

Anyway, most SA tribes don't wear animal skins, e.g.

Pic 1 - Basotho
Pic 2 - Xhosa
Pic 3 - Venda
Pic 4 - Ndebele
Very colourful smiley
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by bewla(m): 12:41pm On Mar 28, 2021
illicit:
My problem with him is that he refuses change....



His forefathers have reasons for dressing like that as at then, such reasons no longer apply



Culture has never been static

It is dynamic
White never live the jeans and suits Arab still wear is kiftan and long robes and many others still preserve their culture



why in my country you call my language vanercular
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by illicit(m): 12:45pm On Mar 28, 2021
bewla:
White never live the jeans and suits Arab still wear is kiftan and long robes and many others still preserve their culture



why in my country you call my language vanercular
Don't u wear jeanshuh


Cant u wear kaftan if u feel likehuh


Must there be a rigid way of dressing?

Has the whites always been wearing jeanshuh


Pls ask urself
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by bewla(m): 12:48pm On Mar 28, 2021
illicit:
Don't u wear jeanshuh


Cant u wear kaftan if u feel likehuh


Must there be a rigid way of dressing?

Has the whites always been wearing jeanshuh


Pls ask urself
this symbol to some people Africa is Africa let's not sale everything and forget to keep some for our children children
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by illicit(m): 12:51pm On Mar 28, 2021
bewla:
this symbol to some people Africa is Africa let's not sale everything and forget to keep some for our children children
Well I don't want my children to dress like that anyway....
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by karkel(m): 1:17pm On Mar 28, 2021
blueAgent:
Because you have nothing of value to say.
please do check my signature
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by gaventa: 1:34pm On Mar 28, 2021
I’m glad I’m making someone research, another things is make sure you read your history written by your own people. The people who colonized you will never make you know your worth. Just like that told you Mongo Park discovered River nIger and you also believed and will google and find that too. WAKEUP! Know where you read from.
blueAgent:
See you consoling yourself.

Make I pity you, we dey Easter.


https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/retail/#the-history-and-evolution-of-retail-stores
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by bkool7(m): 1:58pm On Mar 28, 2021
Lagoon0:
But the article says nothing related to Zulu, why tell obvious lie
So if you see an Igbo in his native attire you won't recognise him?
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by maasoap(m): 2:00pm On Mar 28, 2021
illicit:
It doesn't mean it's correct....
Yeah, it doesn't mean. But if that's the cultural dress, so be it. And I think that's why the management apologised
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by Lagoon0: 2:51pm On Mar 28, 2021
bkool7:
So if you see an Igbo in his native attire you won't recognise him?
You have comprehension problem . read the tribe in the topic. You display ignorance and still look for irrelevant philosophical backing .. undecided
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 3:12pm On Mar 28, 2021
gaventa:
I’m glad I’m making someone research, another things is make sure you read your history written by your own people. The people who colonized you will never make you know your worth. Just like that told you Mongo Park discovered River nIger and you also believed and will google and find that too. WAKEUP! Know where you read from.
You are a clown.

Do you know what discovered means?

Do you think living besides the river means you have discovered its source?

I only googled it to show you.

When I started reading your parents have not met.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 3:16pm On Mar 28, 2021
Lagoon0:
I don't understand what you meant by west technology. Japan has the best technology does technology belongs to Japan?
Samsung is Korea
Alexander grahambell invented telephone . many has contributed to it.
Ancient Chinese try to build flying object but Leonardo davinci constructed the idea and no one knew till he died.

Wilbur and ovil the wright brother later invented aircraft.
Technology belongs to no one. The earliest technology began in Africa .

So you're just a brilliant illiterate . I'm a physicist I'm a western? Do I owe westerners anything?
Philosophy has many Greek on its record doesn't mean philosophy began in Rome.

Let be guided with what we don't know much about
Japanese has the best technology, really?

Your claim does not rhythm with your writeup.

It shows you know nothing ' Oto ndo'

Go and read about histroy of science not some liberal propaganda.
In your mind Africa and Asians contributed , the question is what and how?


clown.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 3:18pm On Mar 28, 2021
Lagoon0:
I don't understand what you meant by west technology. Japan has the best technology does technology belongs to Japan?
Samsung is Korea
Alexander grahambell invented telephone . many has contributed to it.
Ancient Chinese try to build flying object but Leonardo davinci constructed the idea and no one knew till he died.

Wilbur and ovil the wright brother later invented aircraft.
Technology belongs to no one. The earliest technology began in Africa .

So you're just a brilliant illiterate . I'm a physicist I'm a western? Do I owe westerners anything?
Philosophy has many Greek on its record doesn't mean philosophy began in Rome.

Let be guided with what we don't know much about
Am a physicists and how many laws and theory in physics did you discover?
Mr Isaac Newton.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 3:23pm On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
I see how they repulse and scorn west. This is everyday life in Japan. Where are the huts. Where are the kimonos and agbada? My guy I dey work abeg. I think by now we can agree that you should practice what you preach and truly do away with the western influence in your life
You are disturbing yourself with this primitive backward people
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 3:28pm On Mar 28, 2021
selemempe:
why don't they wear the kimonos to work? Why suit and tie?

Have you seen white people wearing the cultural dresses of other groups anywhere. Why do other groups seem to wear the White's dresses?

The modern world belongs to the west. Whether you admit it or not is up to you. I'm out of this threat
Inferiority complex is so strong on this dudes that they will deny reality.

The World belongs to whites, weather in sports, entertainment, invention,legal system, government,education, fashion name it Whites rule.

We are saying it not becos we love Whites but because it's a fact.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 3:28pm On Mar 28, 2021
igbesachick:
well, if you live long enough, in the following 50 years, china will prove you are wrong.

British invented bicycles, but chinese produce 99% today, and possess all the famous brands and technologies.

and tons of other examples.
Why bicycle ? the would have invented something else.
Re: Man Ordered To Leave Mall In South Africa For Wearing 'Indecent' African Attire by blueAgent(m): 3:30pm On Mar 28, 2021
igbesachick:
china copies the west ?

if so, why china is depicted as the antipode of the west ? why the propaganda is fraught with "righteous democratic west VS vicious freedomless china" ?

at least, the west itself does not view china as a copycat . china may copy the cheap stuff, as a business starter and a way to earn money in the less developed countries for lower budget customers. but basically china and west are different.
Stop deceiving yourself China copies virtual everything from the West.
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