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Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Ogeneigbo1: 9:26pm On Mar 29, 2021
jmoore:
His mother remarried after my father divorced her. I have never met her mother neither do I know about her family.
Although I have seen an advantage from your reply above.
May I also ask, What is the age difference between you and this your half / step brother.

Cheers
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by jmoore(op): 9:55pm On Mar 29, 2021
Ogeneigbo1:
Although I have seen an advantage from your reply above.
May I also ask, What is the age difference between you and this your half / step brother.

Cheers
4 years. He should be 40 years old this year.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by smatt1711: 11:45pm On Mar 29, 2021
GorillaApp:
Let's push this further. In the igbo culture, what if the father did not pay the bride price of the mother of the suppposed first son( born out of wedlock) and the man eventually married another woman legally and refused to accept(disown) the child born out of wedlock until his death. His property was willed to the second guy. The man never introduced the older guy as his son, never accepted him in his house and never introduced him to the village/villagers.
It was at the man's death that the other children decided to bring him in but not as the Senior son.


What does the igbo culture say about this. BTW, this happened to a colleague/friend

Cc. Macphenson
your story is not straight forward , you dad never paid a bride price , your dad never married the mother , your dad never accepted the child as his son , what then was the woman doing around your father ? Why will your uncle side this boy if all this you just said is the truth , remember in igbo land a man's 1st son is his 1st child, either married or not .
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by mutter(f): 12:30am On Mar 30, 2021
jmoore:
'It is obvious'? Obviously not everyone is wise. I expected different reactions from my post, so I am not surprised.


You don't know genesis and you think you have the audacity to interpret revelation. So myopic!!

My mom took care of him as his own son from toddler till adulthood.

Note: I never knew he was my half brother till his rebellion started.

There was a day he requested to see his biological mother. My father took him there. He couldn't stay with his own mother and requested to come back after few days.



You said my father was pressured in his ill health to kick out the first son. That's a foolish interpretation from what I have presented.


My Father suffered stroke in 2019. He has already disowned him more than 10 years ago.


It's ridiculous how you left the issues of death threats, kidnapping.

Anything my father did was by his own choice. Only a foolish father will live in the same house with a son that plans to kill him.


You have no idea how many times I separated them in a fight. You have no idea!!


Blood will speak? Let's see if an enemy will have the audacity to do ashes to ashes ritual on a body he hates and planned to kill.
Too much bitterness.
It's a pity. May God allow healing.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Ogeneigbo1: 9:14am On Mar 30, 2021
jmoore:
4 years. He should be 40 years old this year.
There is no much battle here, because once the mother has remarried,all equations has been cancelled.

However,he still remains your father's first Son.No matter what must have happened in the past.

I will advise you look for sincere elders from your community and make them your friend and try as much as possible to let them know and why you feel the way you feel.

He already has the backing of some elders, try and get some too.in that way,your battle will be less stressful.

Finally, since your father NEVER said he should not come to his grave , allow him perform his rite under strict supervision. unless it was your father's wish on his sick bed.

But if this fight is because of the inheritance of your father,then you have a bigger battle and must tread carefully.

Above all, This is the time for you to pray very well.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by GorillaApp(m): 11:48am On Mar 30, 2021
smatt1711:
your story is not straight forward , you dad never paid a bride price , your dad never married the mother , your dad never accepted the child as his son , what then was the woman doing around your father ? Why will your uncle side this boy if all this you just said is the truth , remember in igbo land a man's 1st son is his 1st child, either married or not .
Read again. I never said my dad.

You assume its the op story. I just narrated something that happened to a colleague similar to the op case
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Nobody:
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Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Advision: 1:43pm On Mar 30, 2021
smatt1711:
Tradition is supreme because some part of it has be captured in the Nigeria legal system , the truth is once your kingsman are aligning with him, then it means your father made some mistakes and is not the boys fault , since he is not the same mother with you you may not see those mistakes
You speak as the village elders filled with untaught wisdom...respect!!
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Advision: 1:50pm On Mar 30, 2021
jmoore:
You said I should look at Briggs case when you haven't looked at it.

This is completely different from Brigg's case.
It was not about who should be in charge of the burial but circumstances that led to his death.

A son that wishes his father dies has the audacity to do ashes to ashes. No be thunder em dey invite from ancestors?
You came asking for advice, but you seem bent on opposing every advice that goes contrary to your plan of action.

Be careful though, when you exchange blows with another man, you are only sure of what is within your clenched fist, you cannot be sure of what is within his clenched fist.

If there is a path of peace, you have been well advised to follow it.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by drmikeadams(m): 1:52pm On Mar 30, 2021
Advision:
You came asking for advice, but you seem bent on opposing every advice that goes contrary to your plan of action.

Be careful though, when you exchange blows with another man, you are only sure of what is within your clenched fist, you cannot be sure of what is within his clenched fist.

If there is a path of peace, you have been well advised to follow it.
Don't mind him
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Matheusmartin: 2:41pm On Mar 30, 2021
mutter:
Too much bitterness.
It's a pity. May God allow healing.
.
There is no bitterness.
Stop reading stupid meanings to the post. It's clear enough.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by jmoore(op): 2:46pm On Mar 30, 2021
Advision:
You came asking for advice, but you seem bent on opposing every advice that goes contrary to your plan of action.

Be careful though, when you exchange blows with another man, you are only sure of what is within your clenched fist, you cannot be sure of what is within his clenched fist.

If there is a path of peace, you have been well advised to follow it.
The advice I sought for was from a LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.



It's natural to oppose any plan that seems to reward wicked people.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by hucknall: 3:26pm On Mar 30, 2021
Thrash upon Thrash [s]
post=100287262:
If that is how it is in your family, we shouldn't be here discussing this then.

Mom should take charge of everything.

May dad's soul Rest in Perfect Peace.
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Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by johhbekeboh09(m): 5:05pm On Mar 30, 2021
You and others have no to bar your brother from participating in your late father's funeral...just mind your business
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by johhbekeboh09(m): 5:26pm On Mar 30, 2021
jmoore:
Inform wetin?

Someone that wants his father dead.

Which right?

Is right only about burial?

Did he come when my father was sick?

My mom has been the one bathing my father since September 2019 till he passed away this month..

Someone that wishes his father to die. And you say right?
Sorry for you...you want people to give you stroke too like una father?...you no imagine that your 1/2 will sacrifice anything to destroy you and your (backers) team The only option for you is to make peace with him
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by jmoore(op): 6:00pm On Mar 30, 2021
johhbekeboh09:
Sorry for you...you want people to give you stroke too like una father?...you no imagine that your 1/2 will sacrifice anything to destroy you and your (backers) team The only option for you is to make peace with him
Please use Google and learn about causes of stroke.

I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by johhbekeboh09(m): 6:45pm On Mar 30, 2021
jmoore:
Please use Google and learn about causes of stroke.

I don't negotiate with terrorists.
See anode talk about Google stroke...stroke wey people de use fight their victims and e finances
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by ubola: 8:58pm On Mar 30, 2021
jmoore:
I am Igbo.

Is tradition supreme?

That's why I need a legal perspective. Because some umunna no get sense.
You have to tread cautiously because since your uncle is with him, you might succeed in physically stopping them, but your uncle might conspire with him and pour drinks with left hands against you and your mom, resulting in you people dying like fowl after the burial. Traditional things are to be respected, forget say you go school.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by jmoore(op): 9:07pm On Mar 30, 2021
ubola:
You have to tread cautiously because since your uncle is with him, you might succeed in physically stopping them, but your uncle might conspire with him and pour drinks with left hands against you and your mom, resulting in you people dying like fowl after the burial. Traditional things are to be respected, forget say you go school.
grin
Nollywood.

You ain't talking to an 8 year old.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Advision: 9:22pm On Mar 30, 2021
jmoore:
grin
Nollywood.

You ain't talking to an 8 year old.
Go do what you have in mind n dont forget to update us later
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by jmoore(op): 7:50am On Mar 31, 2021
Confusion in the camp of the enemies.



A meeting held yesterday by Umunna. It was my half brother that requested for the meeting to be held so he can tell them his grievances. My uncle, his supporter was supposed to be in the meeting.

My uncle didn't attend the meeting, he left the village and came to visit us in Aba. During his brief stay yesterday, he didn't raise any comment about my half brother.
My half brother was a lone voice at the meeting. At the end, he couldn't convince Umunna. Umunna are against him.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by jmoore(op): 8:15pm On Apr 30, 2021
Burial was successful yesterday 29th April.

Two weeks ago, the umunna had a meeting and miraculously those who were trying to disrupt the plans with my half brother didn't have the courage to speak.


The only collective agreement was that my halfbrother should be granted access to one room in the village during the burial period. That we did.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Nobody:
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Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by jmoore(op): 1:31pm On May 30, 2021
Klass99:
grin cheesy Jmoore, I love the outcome/ending of your story.



I hope the fool is not getting anything from your father's estate, not even a bucket. Anuofia pikin.
He was advised by his evil supporters that if he participated in his father's burial, he will get inheritance. That's what motivated him to try to force himself into the burial.
He contributed zero naira, zero errands for the burial.

Him and his evil supporters thought we are still living in 400 BC.

My mom is the one that has the power of administration over all assets, none of us are interested in sharing any property for now. Everyone should continue hustling. So my half brother will definitely be waiting in futility.
Re: [Updated]Legal Way To Deal With A Family Member Who Plans To Disrupt A Burial? by Ogeneigbo1: 3:39pm On May 30, 2021
jmoore:
He was advised by his evil supporters that if he participated in his father's burial, he will get inheritance. That's what motivated him to try to force himself into the burial.
He contributed zero naira, zero errands for the burial.

Him and his evil supporters thought we are still living in 400 BC.

My mom is the one that has the power of administration over all assets, none of us are interested in sharing any property for now. Everyone should continue hustling. So my half brother will definitely be waiting in futility.
I knew from day 1 that this fight was all about inheritance..
Check my earlier advice .

Anyway congratulations on your win.but I will advice that when ever the property will be shared, please be benovalent enough to give him a portion..

He is still your half brother..Your father's first Son.
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