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TheSuperNerd:
Beautifully done Marvellous Basco. You captured all of Victor's major acts yesterday just as I analysed. That pass from Ndidi into Osimhen's path was the only big chance Victor didn't take advantage of. Every other chance he got were half chances from tight angles or in one case, trying to control a fast ball while under pressure from defenders.

Again Beautifully done and the Onuachu video was beautiful. Thanks for all you do Man. You rock!!!

BascoVanVeli:
Thanks brother. I don't the Ndidi chance was a big one, if anything it was an opportunity to get injured. That keeper came out like a mad man.

TheSuperNerd:
The same Chukwueze that bossed the La Liga game vs Atletico Madrid recently this year and was crowned MOTM despite a Villarreal loss is suddenly not improving because of one game?? Naah... I agree he needs serious Badass Competition and wasnt as influential yesterday as he was in the second half vs Benin but saying he is not improving is a reach bro.

Eseose9:
Oga abeg check the last time I commented on here or any Nairaland topic. I wasn't here when all these where going on. Infact the reason I left this section was because of how some people constantly down paly some.m players in the process of praising another player. I came here yesterday and I found out that somethings can never change.

TheSuperNerd:
You contradict yourself when you say he does well in Big games yet he hasn't improved.

Just this year against Atletico Madrid on return from his groin injury Operation, Chuks created four big chances and even went for goal himself on two or so occasions. He also completed a good amount of dribbles and his all round playmaking in that game was close to world class. That's what earned him MOTM even though Villarreal lost that game.

Unai Emery also recently spoke glowingly of Chuks' improvements of late and his key value to the way Villarrel plays and attacks.

There's been an improvement on Chukwueze's all round game this season and remember he had just come back from a Groin Operation.

Against Benin, Chuks had a quiet decent first half but stepped up a notch in the second and was involved in our late winning goal.

I mean even his set piece deliveries have improved.

Against Lesotho, he attempted a couple of moves and dribbles but couldn't hit the target and sometimes saw the ball given away a good number of times. But don't forget his involvement in our second goal yesterday....
Iheanacho flicked it to Chukwueze who then swiftly found Osimhen who then held up intelligently for Etebo to slot in.
Now you know Osimhen could easily had gone for goal himself and that could possibly have gone down as a Chuks assist had Osimhen taken it himself.

Overall, I agree Chuks didn't exert much influence yesterday but his movements down that right was still key to several of our attacks yesterday.

smartsmith0907:
Not because of a game bro two games now ......he has alot of work to do ..his great strength is the ability to dive in with his left foot and take on players but the aspect of his games needs improvement. He was average for us in the qualifiers and don't try to bring club football into this. The duo are two different thing.

andrewbaba44:
You are totally getting me wrong Walai and stop forcing words into my mouth ,where did I say he does well in big games ?

You think I am just speaking about yesterday game alone ?

I didn’t say he does well in big games ,I said because he is not improving doesn’t mean he can’t have some good games ,the talent is there

You keep on using only Atlético Madrid as if that’s the only game he has played this season

Dude is just relaxed because his starting shirt is guaranteed

I no blame am

I wish onyekuru can play in his position

TheSuperNerd:
You say a player can sometimes shine in some games without showing improvement and I am saying you are wrong and contradict yourself on Chuks. Simple.
Atletico for example was a big game and no way would he have shone the way he did if he didn't actually step up a few notches. He still has work to do alright but saying he has been wholly stagnant in his growth is very wrong because even Emery disagrees with you. Finito.

And yes, he needs Competition. No question about it. Competition will take his gane to much higher level but the lad have shown some improvements this season. That is the point.

andrewbaba44:
Leave nerdy make e Dey deceive him self when dem Dey tell am the truth

There are some certain players that can’t do wrong in nerdy eyes

Even the club football he hasn’t been that impressive that’s why nerdy kept on talking of the good game he had against Atlético Madrid as if that’s the only team he has played against in Laliga

Dude needs to improve and it’s simple but my brother choose to twist my arguement and sugarcoat things

I ain’t even talking about club football yet self but my guy jump go the game against ATM

Smh

TheSuperNerd:
Atletico is one game I reference because it is a big game and Chuks shone like a million stars and we all saw a few new dimensions to his game. Unless you didn't see that Match for all 90.

Also, in other games he has been good and impressive especially in UEL games where he helped Villarreal to the Quarters. He even recently earned Emery's praise for the key role he plays in how Villarreal creates and attacks so how is that a sign of a player who hasn't shown some improvements? He can still be much better but saying he hasn't improved at all is wrong biko.

12large1:
Iwobi, chuwkwueze don't deserve to be in super eagles 11 today. Iwobi casually lost the ball like 3 times today that could had resulted in a goal against us. Against big teams, it could be unpardomable. Maybe it was because the coach played him on the left side. As for chukwueze, when lookman and Kalu returns na bench player he go be exvept drastic improvements happen

TheSuperNerd:
Hahahahaha... That keeper wan redeem himself naa. Lol

But truly the pass put him one on one with the keeper Although Osimhen had a defender shoulder to shoulder with him although Vic outpaced him. Osimhen could have taken a faster decision to get to the ball and chip it perhaps seeing how the keeper was already fast off his lines. All the same shaa... Your video overall proves that Osimhen was not wasteful yesterday. Almost every chance he got yesterday were half chances and he had to make the most of them in the circumstances faces per action.

Well done again Marvellous One. You are my poster of the year so far.

smartsmith0907:
Not because of a game bro two games now ......he has alot of work to do ..his great strength is the ability to dive in with his left foot and take on players but the aspect of his games needs improvement. He was average for us in the qualifiers and don't try to bring club football into this. The duo are two different thing.

BascoVanVeli:
BTW why is Senior Man not getting his plaudits Man was involved in every single goal. That was a real number 10 performance.

TheSuperNerd:
He had a good second half for us against Benin. He really stepped Up in that half alone and even delivered the killer cross for our winning goal. No way we get that winning goal in Porto Novo without Chukwueze. Facts!

Against Lesotho, he wasn't at his best but he still played a role in the second goal. No one is saying he doesn't had to step up eben more but saying he hasn't improved at all is blatantly false.

You were making excuses for Ebuehi and his ACL recovery, why not make the same excuse for Chuks and his recent recovery from a Groin Operation?

Chuks was decent enough for us in the Qualifiers and even had 2 goals to show for us in the qualifiers yet you say he was average. He had more goals than any other wingers for us in the Qualifiers yet you term his AfconQ overall showing as average.

Mr Smith, you are wrong on your assessment. You are being harsh on that young man. So take a chill pill.

andrewbaba44:
Oga I am not contradicting my self and I believe you understand me clearly

A player can have a good game while still not improving

Example ,a player can have 9 bad games and 1 good game ,I guess you will call that a sign of improvement

smartsmith0907:
You gat me all wrong I don't have any reason to be harsh with him ....I noticed a particular of his game is missing that is diving with his left and scoring outside shot this is most visible when he got promoted to Villarreal main team...but he is not doing that anymore .... His game needs improvement but overall he is 'ok' and I am not disputing the fact he has improve but needs to step up on his skills and his take on on players cos that's is biggest asset.... His goals against Sierra Leone is very sublime as you all know SE is a big brand there will always be huge demand from the fans and the coach

TheSuperNerd:
Even I realised I didn't accord him full credits when I said in my first post on my return last night that he was involved in two of our goals. Your video reminded me of his involvement in the second goal as well as I only focused on the first and third goals.

Indeed Iheanacho had a very efficient performance. His decision making and involvement in our attacking plays was truly marked. Highly influential in all our goals yesterday.

This further rubbishes the nonsense some were saying about Iheanacho having a bad gane Yesterday. Just shows you some dont know how to observe games.

smartsmith0907:
He was on a career threaten injury for the Serbia,Poland and England....i remembered talking to him to redraw from the team and try to take of himself from this injury as he was newly signed by benefica but his patriotism and his love for the team won't let him do such...he will always be my best RB for the team anytime anyday.... He is not even fully (100%) fit yet.

BascoVanVeli:
It was 3 goals to me ooo. He is the one who flicked Samu the ball that he passed to Osimhen for his assist.

BascoVanVeli:
It was 3 goals to me ooo. He is the one who flicked Samu the ball that he passed to Osimhen for his assist.

andrewbaba44:
When I say a player is not improving it doesn’t stop him from playing well in some games you dig ?

You should know all these things

Chuks just Dey Where e Dey like that

I no blame am because e no get competition

andrewbaba44:
He is called anywhere belle face by Chris and not anyone

Don’t make it look like all naija fans use to call him that name

Stop making a case out of nothing

TheSuperNerd:
Mister, you tagged our highest scoring winger in the just concluded Afcon Qualifiers as average for us in the same Qualifiers. No, I believe I got you all right and I am saying your assessment on him being average in the qualifiers is VERY WRONG and false.

And yes, Chuks has crazy potentials and haven't even gotten to quarter of the depth of it hence he needs to keep working hard to raise his game to the next level of Mad potential fulfilment. But saying he was average for us in the just concluded Qualifiers when he was actually our best winger is what I find extremely harsh on your part.
Just say the expectations on his talents are high and I would understand but calling him average when his overall showings for us in the qualifiers contradict your assessment is not one I will let pass without sound correction.




P.S: The Robben trait of driving/cutting inwards from the right with his left foot was on show on about two occasions yesterday I believe. The only thing is that he didn't hit the target. He didn't connect as he would normally. I believe he will get it back as it is the trait he used to rise fast in the Villarreal ranks in his first pro season. While he works on taking that trait of his to the next level, we have to acknowledge his all-round game and playmaking ability has stepped up a notch and yes, I agree... It can be mightily better overall.

But, just dont tag our best and top scoring winger of the just concluded Qualifiers as average again abeg. Finito.

smartsmith0907:
because chuks is the highest goal scoring winger in the just concluded makes him the best and not subjected to criticism are you for real Even iwobi that is on 3 goals is being dragged on here and not treated like an alpha in here....I remembered samuel.kalu scoring 2 goals and making 2 assists in the last AFCONQ and also a shot leading to an own goal yet he was subjected to criticism by plaudit on his selfish play and bad decision let's call a spade...his game needs improvement no caps bro...

TheSuperNerd:
Stop digressing and changing the goal posts. No one says he should not improve and no one is saying don't speak on where he can still improve.

Just admit you were wrong tagging Chuks' showings for us in the concluded AfconQs as average. That is the central issue here. Forget about past Qualifiers and Kalu. Our business is with the current one that just wrapped up. You made an obvious gaffe. Chukwueze average?? In the just concluded Qualifiers?? Our top scoring winger and most involved winger in chances creation?? Mr.Smith... you got it very wrong here. Finito.

smartsmith0907:
I said what I said and I mean what i said he was average for this qualifier

@the bolded and he got how many assists in the whole of the qualifiers

TheSuperNerd:
You are wrong Smith, so stop trying to cover an obviously fallacious statement. This Conversation is over.

TheSuperNerd:
Yes this is true and I understand you perfectly but you and I know this is not the case with Chuks. 9 games, bad and 1 game, good. Naah.. no be Chuks abeg.

But yes, we both agree he needs to keep improving even higher than he is doing and that Competition will surely take him game to the heights of his crazy potentials and abilities. I believe Chuks has only scratched the surface of his potentials but so far this season, a new dimension to Chuks is already opening up and that is his playmaking and improved team involvement plays.

edi287:
This senior man thing cracks me up