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JOSCOFELIX:
when over 150 militant attack a hilux of solider of 11, they repelled them and killed some but they were overpower by the militant because of juju and that is why the manner sent from the military is being receives by everybody in the community

Ok so because the army couldn't fight their mates with arm, they then resort to burning down village and killing old women..? Sorry to say but you sound very dumb and childish by this statement...I hope you know its behaviour like this that got us to where we are with boko people today? and the good thing is the army is also reaping from what they sow...!! What they did in that village would be no different..just watch...!!

Valkrie:
And your demented brain don't know that this is not the first time the nigerian army is doing such or carrying out such nonesense..!!

Have you asked what Fela or his aged mother did that made the Nigerian army throw her to her death from a storey building?

Don't know how old you are but always sounding dumb trying hard to be politically correct and trying hard pretending to be a patriot...!!

Like I wrote..to end all these nonesense when those affected also begin to kill the commander and his family and soldiers directly involve, others would begin to have a rethink because they sure know that they would reap the consequence of their action(s)...!!!

You think killing their relatives will stop them from coming after you

Valkrie:
Ok so because the army couldn't fight their mates with arm, they then resort to burning down village and killing old women..? Sorry to say but you sound very dumb and childish by this statement...I hope you know its behaviour like this that got us to where we are with boko people today? and the good thing is the army is also reaping from what they sow...!! What they did in that village would be no different..just watch...!!

can you even hand gun talk-less of using it with you fellow men in a close by ambush. which kind mates? the mate that could not fight the men of the nigeria army when they came for them instate they started shouting that the military are burn their house and killing them, the can hear the manner sent from the military to their community.

EricBraven:
Good news, a brave Nigerian Navy personnel, Ak Bala, who was kidnapped sometimes on 24 Feb 21, on his way to Kebbi on leave, has succefully gained his freedom. He successfully disarmed one of the kidnappers, then used his weapon to kill two of them and escaped.
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Resident Dubai landlord will not see this one. Na to dey carry fake news up on down like person wey village People dey untop him case.

Xbee007:
Resident Dubai landlord will not see this one. Na to dey carry fake news up on down like person wey village People dey untop him case.

Where is the evidence?

DubaiLandLord:
Where is the evidence?

But if it Sahara Nonsense that carry the news you will not ask for evidence.

EricBraven:
The attention of the Defence Headquarters is drawn to numerous publications in the media and other online blogs reporting massive killing and destruction of houses and other property by the military in Konshisha LGA of Benue State. The Defence Headquarters which has oversight responsibility for Operation WHIRL STROKE deployed to maintain peace in Benue, Nasarawa and Taraba States, has deemed it necessary to refute these spurious allegations and put the records straight.

There have been incessant cases of communal clashes in recent times between the people of Konshisha and Oju over boundary demarcation. As part of efforts to resolve the crisis, the Benue State Government held series of meetings with stakeholders from both local governments with a view to arriving at amicable solution to the problem. Appreciable progress has been made and a final date fixed for all stakeholders to meet in the disputed areas to fully demarcate the boundary so that peace could reign. Trouble however started on the eve of the final meeting during Easter holiday, with reports that fresh fighting has broken out in the area.

All along, 72 Special Forces Battalion has troops deployed on the Oju side of the boundary and troops of the Battalion were on their way to replenish their colleagues on 5 April 2021, when they were attacked by armed bandits at Bonta in Konshisha. The troops who were under command of a Captain were seized at a checkpoint mounted by the so called “Bonta Boys” and taken into Konshisha forest where they were all brutally murdered. Not satisfied with killing the soldiers, the bandits proceeded to burn all the eleven soldiers and their officer beyond recognition while their weapons and ammunition were carted away. Military reinforcements were dispatched to Bonta the following morning. Unfortunately, the reinforcement also came under attack from close to 500 armed youths who by this time had fully occupied Bonta. The sheer number of youths involved in the attacks suggests that the armed bandits cannot be from Bonta alone, but were joined by bandits from other parts of Konshisha LGA. The military repelled the attack after more than 4 hours of intense fighting during which military helicopter provided close air support to ground troops. Ten armed bandits were killed during the fight with the rifle of one of the Killed in action soldiers recovered from the bandits who fell casualty during the exchange of fire.

The Defence Headquarters wish to put it on record that apart from this initial 10 bandits, there are no other civilian casualties recorded in any part of Konshisha till date. We therefore challenge anybody from Konshisha to present to the public the 200, 70 or 30 dead bodies of innocent persons, male, female or children killed by troops in Konshisha. There was never a massacre as being touted by some mischief makers.

The remnants of the armed bandits that escaped from Bonta withdrew into neighbouring villages where they kept on attacking troops as they continued with the search operation through Bonta into other parts of Konshisha. Knowing the implications of killing troops in cold blood, most of the villagers fled their homes which were then occupied by armed bandits who kept firing at troops from the settlements as they advanced into Konshisha. Troops repelled the attacks and destroyed the houses and other buildings which the criminals used as hideout for the attacks. The use of abandoned settlements by armed bandits to attack troops is popular with insurgents. The aim is to draw military fire into the dwellings and then turn round to blame soldiers for the destruction. This is common guerilla tactics armed bandit designed to whip up public sentiment against security forces and this is what played out in Konshisha. This accounts for some of the burnt houses being reported in the press. Some of the phones of the dead soldiers were also tracked to some of the settlements. We should therefore blame the armed bandits for the destruction since they used these settlements as hideout for attacks. It will be wrong to blame soldiers who are in Konshisha on legitimate duties when some of them were murdered in cold blood. Some of the buildings being paraded today were actually burnt during earlier communal clashes between Konshisha and Oju, all of which the sponsors of the mayhem are now blaming on the military.

Finally, the Defence Headquarters wishes to state that soldiers deployed to Konshisha displayed commendable restraints by adhering to the rules of engagement in the face of unprovoked attacks and therefore deserve accolades. In addition to the return of all carted away weapons, the local leaders of Konshisha must bring the main actors responsible for the mayhem to security forces to face justice. They must also surrender all other weapons in their possession. The military will not tolerate the jungle justice attitude and dastardly acts leading to the gruesome murder of patriotic soldiers on legitimate duty to keep the peace. We look forward to working with the Benue State Government in its promise to support security forces in fishing out those fomenting trouble in Konshisha. Once again, there is no massacre in Konshisha and the stories making the rounds are fabricated by bandits and their sponsors to smear the military after murdering troops in cold blood.

ONYEMA NWACHUKWU

Brigadier General

Acting Director Defence Information

9 April 2021

Daily reports like this are what the army need to produce daily to counter fake news

Sizzorkay:
The solution varies. they can start by gathering intel in the area before they act. Put the leaders there on govt parole and turn them into informants.
talk to those in leadership positions in the area and they might point you in the right direction.
enticing people work. trying to subjugate people doesn't.
burning down things that are important to the people is to make them see you as the devil.
increase security presence in the area etc. I'm no expert, but some things are just common sense. we've seen multiple cops get shot in America, the police didn't burn down the whole neighborhood.
unleashing aggression on those who aren't responsible is unprofessionalism.
but above all, job creation and education is key.
Imagine Nigeria as a country, where a baby can be born, live up to 90yrs and die, without ever having its existence on record with the govt, no interaction, nothing. That's not good.
Nigeria need databases upon databases lol, alas we seem to not believe in record keeping or registering births and deaths. Ppl won't care about a country that provides them with nothing, not even security.
zero quality of life in that country. ppl pee and sheet wherever they want, leave dead bodies on the side of the road for weeks, dump trash wherever, these are things that affect people's quality of life m and we seem to not care about it.
we sure have a long way to go

People think job creation and education is the key to end security.

Fyi, some boko haram members are educated, some studied chemistry, engineering, infact some are programmers but guess what, they are all using their skills to make bombs, hack government networks and create specialised cars for attack against the military.

motymop:
People think job creation and education is the key to end security.

Fyi, some boko haram members are educated, some studied chemistry, engineering, infact some are programmers but guess what, they are all using their skills to make bomb, hack government networks and create specialised cars for attack against the military.

Yeah

EricBraven:
You think killing their relatives will stop them from coming after you

And the circle continues and we see who back down...you cant come and burn down my village and kill my aged mother and not see repercussion nah...which kind government work you dey do...good thing boko have been on top of their head for more than 12 years now and that should give you an idea and their former oga even said it won't end for the next 20 years...tell me who would loose more...the more they come they more they get killed...if the army is to declassify the numbers of soldiers killed so far there would be uproar in the country...hope you know that...? That's why all is shrouded in secrecy even to report to the families of the KIA is a problem to them ..constantly shunning out lies with the hope to still keep their bloody head high...!!

Valkrie:
And the circle continues and we see who back down...you cant come and burn down my village and kill my aged mother and not see repercussion nah...which kind government work you dey do...good thing boko have been on top of their head for more than 12 years now and that should give you an idea and their former oga even said it won't end for the next 20 years...tell me who would loose more...the more they come they more they get killed...if the army is to declassify the numbers of soldiers killed so far there would be uproar in the country...hope you know that...? That's why all is shrouded in secrecy even to report to the families of the KIA is a problem to them ..constantly shunning out lies with the hope to still keep their bloody head high...!!

abeg you na go link me form were una dey get liar from abeg

My brain o

DubaiLandLord:
The massacre of old people, women and children in Odi didn't put an end to militancy in the Niger Delta. The Government had to later beg and promised them amnesty.

The killings upon killings of IPOB members by the military have lead to the creation of ESN.

Well, make we dey look as things dey go

Bros..leave some of them idiots here spewing trash and think Nigerian army is one invisible force...!! Time would come if this country still remain one that the army would beg for permission to enter certain areas..its even already happening in Borno....their jet fall down..dem all dey fear to venture out. Only to be shunning out lies to people..till today we no hear Nada...!!! In orly.. to keep curfew.. 6pm all of them don run enter barracks...nah small small mo key go go market wey he no go return...!!

The Nigerian army an offshoot of the colonial force is only trained to protect the regime/political elite and never the people and that has always been the case..matter dey grow small small and we go all see the end..!!

And where did i ever said that was the only thing needed to end terrorism? And who told you this only applies to terrorism alone.
An uneducated, jobless, hungry soul is a recruitment pool for trouble makers. You mean you missed all that?
If people feel neglected, zero govt presence in lots of places, no social safety nets, no support, no loans to start a business, no job training centers, etc.
And you don't understand the security threats the lack of these facilities pose to any country? smh.
why am i even responding to this.

motymop:
People think job creation and education is the key to end security.

Fyi, some boko haram members are educated, some studied chemistry, engineering, infact some are programmers but guess what, they are all using their skills to make bombs, hack government networks and create specialised cars for attack against the military.

Sizzorkay:
And where did i ever said that was the only thing needed to end terrorism? And who told you this only applies to terrorism alone.
An uneducated, jobless, hungry soul is a recruitment pool for trouble makers. You mean you missed all that?
If people feel neglected, zero govt presence in lots of places, no social safety nets, no support, no loans to start a business, no job training centers, etc.
And you don't understand the security threats the lack of these facilities pose to any country? smh.
why am i even responding to this.

Anyone can be recruited by any group.

Many cultists are educated, some are not hungry but they were still recruited into cult to cause havoc.

When people like you think that loans to start biz, social safety etc will help in reducing terrorism, i laugh.

US has all these but lot of cities are still unsafe....have you checked their crime statistics, you will be suprised by the number of violent crimes that occurs in that country daily.

JOSCOFELIX:
abeg you na go link me form were una dey get liar from abeg

From your past post, your reasoning level and you said you are from Kogi...I guess you are an ebira person..cos they are the people with a very low IQ level in Kogi and sorry to say most of them do not really even know who their father is...family of 5 kids, 2 may belong to the real husband and the rest 3 kids to different fathers...There is one here called yarimo always spewing trash and you would know he didnt finish school from his level of reasoning and comments...And here you come with similar attitude and reasoning...I don't think you are very far from an ebira person...some of your intel may be correct but your presentation is too childish as if you just found out yesterday how to surf the internet...!!

So in your expert opinion, there is no direct correlation between poverty and the ability of extremist groups to recruit? okay

motymop:
Anyone can be recruited by any group.

Many cultists are educated, some are not hungry but they were still recruited into cult to cause havoc

Sizzorkay:
So in your expert opinion, there is no direct correlation between poverty and the ability of extremist groups to recruit? okay

It has no correlation.

IDEALISM make people join extremists groups, not poverty.

Do you think they are paid to go kill.

People want to belong, preach an idea and tell them they are fighting for a cause and you will see people join in droves.

Are IPOB members paid? Are bokoharam members paid?

Just think about that for a minute.

Didn't you see people from many developed countries going to Syria to join isis or al Qaeda.

The Nigerian guy that almost blow up a plane in the United states was from a well to do family here in Nigeria

US is a big country, and the police actually shows up when you call them, I live in that same US for the past 20yrs, so no need to tell me about it.
But, i don't see terrorists running around the US claiming territory, and every violent group in America is definitely under 24hrs surveillance .
How come you don't have terrorists in better developed countries? maybe you can enlighten us as to why that is.
Never mind the fact that they have better police force, better and stronger institutions, a functioning judicial system, and police that actually patrol 24/7, rain or snow.
And over here, kids as young as 11 can still be out at 2am without any harm coming to them, people actually live in Apts with their bedroom windows a few feet from the sidewalk without a 15 foot fence surrounding their property.
It doesn't mean there aren't criminals here, again, duh, point is their system actually functions better than ours
Tell me, would you be able to sleep at night if you have no fence around your home in Nigeria? . Most won't, unless you live in a face me and face you, with tons of neighbors in same building.
No need for comparison, my point is, tackling poverty and joblessness has a direct impact on security. This is well known.
How many of those computer geek terrorists did you see running around with Ak47s? It's the poor that constitute the majority of their foot soldiers, that's my point.

motymop:
Anyone can be recruited by any group.

Many cultists are educated, some are not hungry but they were still recruited into cult to cause havoc.

When people like you think that loans to start biz, social safety etc will help in reducing terrorism, i laugh.

US has all these but lot of cities are still unsafe....have you checked their crime statistics, you will be suprised by the number of violent crimes that occurs in that country daily.

Valkrie:
From your past post, your reasoning level and you said you are from Kogi...I guess you are an ebira person..cos they are the people with a very low IQ level in Kogi and sorry to say most of them do not really even know who their father is...family of 5 kids, 2 may belong to the real husband and the rest 3 kids to different fathers...There is one here called yarimo always spewing trash and you would know he didnt finish school from his level of reasoning and comments...And here you come with similar attitude and reasoning...I don't think you are very far from an ebira person...some of your intel may be correct but your presentation is too childish as if you just found out yesterday how to surf the internet...!!

YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO GUESS I AM AN IGALA BOY BY TRIBE BUT BASE IN OKENE FOR NOW

Chief, i never said educated people can not become terrorists or sympathizers. jesus, I'm talking about recruitment, are you telling me those boko guys whose bodies we've seen are all Rhodes scholars?
We've seen a captured BH dude who claimed he was a butcher but joined them when they offered him money because he live in poverty, that's one simple example, so to say poverty isn't part of the tools, is beyond ignorance.
It's never a one size fit all, poverty alone isn't a factor, but it matters, there are other reasons as well.
Moving on.

motymop:
It has no correlation.

IDEALISM make people join extremists groups, not poverty.

Do you think they are paid to go kill.

People want to belong, preach an idea and tell them they are fighting for a cause and you will see people join in droves.

Are IPOB members paid? Are bokoharam members paid?

Just think about that for a minute.

Didn't you see people from many developed countries going to Syria to join isis or al Qaeda.

The Nigerian guy that almost blow up a plane in the United states was from a well to do family here in Nigeria

Sizzorkay:
US is a big country, and the police actually shows up when you call them, I live in that same US for the past 20yrs, so no need to tell me about it.
But, i don't see terrorists running around the US claiming territory, and every violent group in America is definitely under 24hrs surveillance .
How come you don't have terrorists in better developed countries? maybe you can enlighten us as to why that is.
Never mind the fact that they have better police force, better and stronger institutions, a functioning judicial system, and police that actually patrol 24/7, rain or snow.
And over here, kids as young as 11 can still be out at 2am without any harm coming to them, people actually live in Apts with their bedroom windows a few feet from the sidewalk without a 15 foot fence surrounding their property.
It doesn't mean there aren't criminals here, again, duh, point is their system actually functions better than ours
Tell me, would you be able to sleep at night if you have no fence around your home in Nigeria? . Most won't, unless you live in a face me and face you, with tons of neighbors in same building.
No need for comparison, my point is, tackling poverty and joblessness has a direct impact on security. This is well known.
How many of those computer geek terrorists did you see running around with Ak47s? It's the poor that constitute the majority of their foot soldiers, that's my point.

You really think a poor and hungry person will carry weapon and tell himself he wants to go join bokoharam, where he is not even guaranteed of a pay talkless of his life. Is that not from fry pan to fire

With your logic, every poor person would have join an extremist group to cure their hunger.

People join extreme groups because of ideas, peer pressure and adventures not because of poverty.

You think all the crisis in Nigeria is because of poverty, it has nothing to do with poverty or hunger but ideas. Most of the crisis in Nigeria has to do with agitations, herdermen and farmers, inter ethnic clashes.

Greedy people who want cash are robbing and doing kidnapping, even many get rich from it but continue the dangerous act.

Sizzorkay:
Chief, i never said educated people can not become terrorists or sympathizers. jesus, I'm talking about recruitment, are you telling me those boko guys whose bodies we've seen are all Rhodes scholars?
We've seen a captured BH dude who claimed he was a butcher but joined them when they offered him money because he live in poverty, that's one simple example, so to say poverty isn't part of the tools, is beyond ignorance.
It's never a one size fit all, poverty alone isn't a factor, but it matters, there are other reasons as well.
Moving on.

And you believe because he was poor that is why he joined bokoharam.

Where is he guarantee his life and steady pay, cutting meats or fighting in a war that will take his life after 1 week.

Again, one element isn't what it takes, ideology is part of it, i never said only one element causes terrorism, okay?
Right there in London people are being recruited to join ISIS, we've seen young girls leave Europe and join them, so i get all that.
But i do believe that terrorism thrives in underdeveloped regions, that's my believe, and lack of development might be aiding that, within that lack of development you have poverty, high illiteracy levels and zero govt presence, all of these contribute to the ability of terrorists to recruit members, that's my own opinion. Add ignorance to the list.

motymop:
And you believe because he was poor that is why he joined bokoharam.

Where is he guarantee his life and steady pay, cutting meats or fighting in a war that will take his life after 1 week.

I don't think i've written as many comments as i've done here today since i joined this forum
The forth and back convo was entertaining today, for me at least.
Good luck to naija sha. Hope all will become well.

JackWolfskin:
I don't exchange invectives online.

But, na you and your papa be the black men wen de think with anus. Your Fada!

you have started thinking with his anus as said ..you are amongst the averages...

Some of us are above average...due to your sentimental thinking, you didn't see the caveat

Valkrie:
And the circle continues and we see who back down...you cant come and burn down my village and kill my aged mother and not see repercussion nah...which kind government work you dey do...good thing boko have been on top of their head for more than 12 years now and that should give you an idea and their former oga even said it won't end for the next 20 years...tell me who would loose more...the more they come they more they get killed...if the army is to declassify the numbers of soldiers killed so far there would be uproar in the country...hope you know that...? That's why all is shrouded in secrecy even to report to the families of the KIA is a problem to them ..constantly shunning out lies with the hope to still keep their bloody head high...!!

The people that will lose more are the civilian population.
They do declassify the amount of soldiers killed,they even have a memorial space for them in Borno State.

UPDATE

Sizzorkay:
You really are dumb. you must have some serious inferiority issue to be putting down your own kind. what other races are you worshiping? Those that have committed the most heinous atrocities known to mankind? study history before coming here to talk trash.
Those other races you are bending over for didn't get to where they are overnight. They've made their own errors, They've gone thru underdevelopment , hell they've been through starvation. Sure we have a long way to go, but the trash you keep writing, made you look like a self hating pathetic human being. if you hate what you are this bad, off yourself. low life scum

Blablabla.....grow up and start seeing things logically and not sentimentally