Throughout the world today religionists are facing persecution one way or another but noteworthy is the persecution of a global family of peace lovers!
This people are persecuted in their home land for refusing to support a race against another and for being neutral when there is political unrest.
A mother and her son were both arrested, charged, judged and sentenced for being peacelovers!
When i read Jesus' statement in the Bible about how his peace loving followers will be maltreated and what Luke recorded regarding the persecution of Christians in Bible times i found it unbelievable, i can't just grasp why a peaceful group will be the target of anyone when they're no treat to any Politician!

I'd like to believe there's something these people did/do against the law. Maybe a part of their belief system that arguably endangers lives or something. Otherwise, why hurt people for their choice of religion? This is like the persecution of gay people in Africa. I've always maintained that the discrimination you condone because it is doesn't affect you or because it favors you will render you voiceless when you become the target of another. Equality/tolerance can never be partial. Though I don't subscribe to the teaching of JW, if their activities don't harm people and don't obstruct justice, I see no reason why they should be jailed for it. People who celebrate this today would have nothing to hold on to when it's their turn to face oppression.

WoundedLamb:
I'd like to believe there's something these people did/do against the law. Maybe a part of their belief system that arguably endangers lives or something.

WORLDWIDE, Jehovah’s Witnesses are known as law abiding citizens(Titus 3:1) and are generally peace-loving and respectful people.
Luke 6:27-29, Romans 12:18

In fact if you have one of us living around your locality, you are TOTALLY safe with nothing to worry about because our belief system(Bible) encourages respect for life to the point of not taking up weapons to hurt or kill anyone under any circumstances.
Matthew 26:52

Otherwise, why hurt people for their choice of religion?


This is like the persecution of gay people in Africa. I've always maintained that the discrimination you condone because it is doesn't affect you or because it favors you will render you voiceless when you become the target of another. Equality/tolerance can never be partial. Though I don't subscribe to the teaching of JW, if their activities don't harm people and don't obstruct justice, I see no reason why they should be jailed for it. People who celebrate this today would have nothing to hold on to when it's their turn to face oppression.

The highlighted is the part that would really pierce the heart of any honest-hearted observer. Obviously there’s nothing the Witnesses do wrong to deserve the intense persecution they’re always facing worldwide but for some reasons, however, they do. For example, following their Bible-trained consciences to remain separate from the world has brought upon them, the intense persecution that Jesus said would occur. John 15:18-20
So because Witnesses do not go to war(Isaiah 2:2-4) and by remaining separate(neutral) from the political system of the world(John 17:14-16), they’ve been the focus of hatred from all man-made organizations worldwide and it doesn't surprise us. 1John 3:13
The major reason for the Witnesses being persecuted is because there are actually higher spirit forces out there who are trying their best to stamp out pure worship(Revelation 12:17) so the humans they’re using for the job are not really in control of themselves(Luke 23:34) and are just mere puppets in the hands of mightier spirit beings(demons). Ephesians 6:12
That’s why from the surface, the persecution that the Witnesses suffer doesn’t make sense to anybody because those humans who are intensely persecuting them are not acting on their impulse or minds but are simply being energized by Satan to do his own will.
Ephesians 2:2

All Religions are peaceful when they are the minority and weak, once they become powerful on the other hand...

Christians were very peaceful, once they got power we saw the Inquisition and the Crusades

Being persecuted is not an argument for your movement

danvon:
All Religions are peaceful when they are the minority and weak, once they become powerful on the other hand...

Christians were very peaceful , once they got power we saw the Inquisition and the Crusades

Being persecuted is not an argument for your movement

By powerful, do you mean, attaining a worldly status, prestige and influence in the society at large? If so, be rest assured that isn’t and will never be one of the goals of Jehovah’s Witnesses. James 4:4

The highlighted caught my attention because it baffles me a lot when people speak like this. I mean the first Christians in the Bible suffered intense persecution in the Roman Empire.
Luke 21:12
The faithful and true Christians never resorted to violence or retaliation since their Master already forbade them for doing so(Matthew 26:52) and because of that, most of them were slaughtered for their faith. Acts 12:1

For your information, true Christianity started from 33C.E. and temporarily ended after 100C.E. so please do not assume that those bloodthirsty tyrants masquerading as Christians(Catholic Church) had anything to do with Christianity because Jesus, Paul, Peter all made it clear that true Christianity would vanish from the surface of the earth after the death of the major apostles in the first century(100C.E.)
Matthew 13:24-30 check also Acts 20:29,30; 2Peter 2:1

So those pagan warlords(Roman Catholics) starting from Emperor Constantine(306-337C.E.) never had anything to do with the Christianity that Jesus commissioned since Jesus already referred to such ones as wolves disguising as sheep who would corrupt the Bible truth and mislead many by their irreverent acts.
Matthew 7:15 see also 2Corinthians 11:13-15

Politics caused the problem mankind is facing today but if you don't meditate thoroughly on what you read in the Bible you'll conclude that it's all about religion.

The main cause of human suffering started when the first human pair decided to overthrow God in his own garden, the Bible said the bone of contention was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Ordinarily this makes no practical sense to a hasty and unintelligent reader, but come to think of it why did God planted a tree that he doesn't want humans to eat of it's fruit in the garden?
Well the answer to that question will help you to know the real cause of human suffering.
What exactly is the cause of killings in the name of war today? Is it about food and drinks? Is it about clothing and shelter? Is it about recreation? Is it about merriments?
The answer is NO!
It's all about who determines what is right and wrong in the society {Genesis 2:17} Politics

Most times atheists come to Nairaland to speak against religion all what their brains could grasp is the wars resulting from religion but they failed woefully to see the real cause. Of course our forefathers practice religion before the Churches and Muslims came with those books so how come we don't condemn the existing religions before white men and Arabs brought those books?
Well the answer is simple, back in those days it's the kings, queens and emperors that determines what is right and wrong, they only consult the oracles which they may choose to obey or ignore. But the white man and Arabs came to establish themselves as rulers by force telling people everywhere that they must obey what the books says, that's the cause of all these troubles!

But was that how the founder of Christianity (Jesus) commissioned it? NO! NO!! NO!!!

Jesus told his disciples (who has been empowered with supernatural gifts) not to force his teachings on anyone {Matthew 10:3-13} in fact he told them that it's God who determines the judgment not even Jesus himself {Matthew 10:14-15; 24:36} so no matter the ill-treatment Jesus and his disciples get from people they mustn't think of taking the laws into their own hands! Luke 9:51-56

So learn to be wise, the first set of people who came to Africa with the books weren't here for the religions rather they came to rule our people by force (Politics) Jesus himself experienced the same thing back in the first century. Due to all the scriptural findings, the Jewish religious leaders were brighten up the spirit of their people telling them that the Messiah (Christ) should come within that period so some Jewish zealots (opportunists) declared themselves as the Messiah (Christ), many of their people followed these men but they ended up getting themselves killed and all their followers scattered! Act 5:36-37
It was about 30 years later that Jesus of Nazareth showed up and began his own ministry, unlike those who first came to declare themselves as the Messiah Jesus didn't go about with swords to force people! John 10:8
Jesus never seize the opportunity given to him even by the people to rule {John 6:15} instead he told them "my own government has nothing to do with this source" John 18:36 compared to John 17:16
So those who brought the book (Bible) and took over rulership from our kings are not Christians but politicians!
Unfortunately when the real Christians came our people have been so much overwhelmed with the ideas of those Politicians to the extent that they began picking offences at every move of the true servants of God JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

danvon:
All Religions are peaceful when they are the minority and weak, once they become powerful on the other hand...
Christians were very peaceful, once they got power we saw the Inquisition and the Crusades
Being persecuted is not an argument for your movement

There is a reason why JWs do become a target in most countries, the one and only reason is we are always neutral when it comes to forcing laws or rules on people!
Take for instance the gay rights America is propagating, most religionists will kick against such rights however JWs don't practice neither do we support homosexuality but we won't force or join those forcing them to quit.
Our job is to preach the message of God's kingdom to whoever is willing to listen, if you ask us why you can't be there we will explain but we will never force you in any way to accept God's standard, it's left to you to decide whether what you heard from us is OK or not.
Russia has been having serious issues with America over world dominance for centuries now so Russian government is trying to make all their citizens swear a form of allegiance to the state but JWs are ever neutral so to the Russian authorities this religious group whose headquarters is in America is against their moves. You can imagine the charges against JWs in Russia: meeting together for worship, speaking to neighbours about God, possession of a book not labeled "Bible" and reading materials printed by the Watchtower!
In fact the European Union is totally perplexed with the charges Russian government has against JWs! Matthew 10:22-25

WoundedLamb:
I'd like to believe there's something these people did/do against the law. Maybe a part of their belief system that arguably endangers lives or something. Otherwise, why hurt people for their choice of religion? This is like the persecution of gay people in Africa. I've always maintained that the discrimination you condone because it is doesn't affect you or because it favors you will render you voiceless when you become the target of another. Equality/tolerance can never be partial. Though I don't subscribe to the teaching of JW, if their activities don't harm people and don't obstruct justice, I see no reason why they should be jailed for it. People who celebrate this today would have nothing to hold on to when it's their turn to face oppression.

She feels bad prosecuting a peace loving people!

DappaD:


By powerful, do you mean, attaining a worldly status, prestige and influence in the society at large? If so, be rest assured that isn’t and will never be one of the goals of Jehovah’s Witnesses. James 4:4

The highlighted caught my attention because it baffles me a lot when people speak like this. I mean the first Christians in the Bible suffered intense persecution in the Roman Empire.
Luke 21:12
The faithful and true Christians never resorted to violence or retaliation since their Master already forbade them for doing so(Matthew 26:52) and because of that, most of them were slaughtered for their faith. Acts 12:1

For your information, true Christianity started from 33C.E. and temporarily ended after 100C.E. so please do not assume that those bloodthirsty tyrants masquerading as Christians(Catholic Church) had anything to do with Christianity because Jesus, Paul, Peter all made it clear that true Christianity would vanish from the surface of the earth after the death of the major apostles in the first century(100C.E.)
Matthew 13:24-30 check also Acts 20:29,30; 2Peter 2:1

So those pagan warlords(Roman Catholics) starting from Emperor Constantine(306-337C.E.) never had anything to do with the Christianity that Jesus commissioned since Jesus already referred to such ones as wolves disguising as sheep who would corrupt the Bible truth and mislead many by their irreverent acts.
Matthew 7:15 see also 2Corinthians 11:13-15

First of all without the Catholic Church Christianity would have gotten no where the only way Christianity could become powerful in Rome is by absorbing Roman culture.
Jehovah witness are still a minority, if 50% of the world population become Jehovah witnesses do you truly believe the world would be peaceful?
They won't try to force the remaining 50% to convert?
Anybody who truly believes he's sent by God for a purpose will never see any wrong with using violence to achieve the said purpose...The end justifies the means

Jesus never encourage VIOLENCE in achieving his goal so those doing that aren't his true followers!

danvon:
First of all without the Catholic Church Christianity would have gotten no where the only way Christianity could become powerful in Rome is by absorbing Roman culture.
Jehovah witness are still a minority, if 50% of the world population become Jehovah witnesses do you truly believe the world would be peaceful?
They won't try to force the remaining 50% to convert?
Anybody who truly believes he's sent by God for a purpose will never see any wrong with using violence to achieve the said purpose...The end justifies the means

danvon:
First of all without the Catholic Church Christianity would have gotten no where the only way Christianity could become powerful in Rome is by absorbing Roman culture.

I’d like to believe this is a joke because the Catholic Church contributed a total number of zero efforts to the spread of Christianity. Like has been said those ones were the strong and powerful weeds that outgrew the real Christians after the first century as was already foretold. Matthew 13:24-30

Jehovah witness are still a minority, if 50% of the world population become Jehovah witnesses do you truly believe the world would be peaceful?
They won't try to force the remaining 50% to convert?

Please do you know who Jehovah’s Witnesses are? Have you gone overseas and seen our international conventions where tens of thousands gather together PEACEFULLY, ORDERLY and DECENTLY at a particular location without help from the local police and authorities?

Your logic doesn’t even make sense. Haven’t we seen minority groups who use violence to propagate their teachings?

If 100% of the world population all become Witnesses, 99% of the problems this world is facing would be solved and it’s not a joke. But unfortunately we live in Satan’s world so it will not be possible for even 1% of the world population to be Witnesses because Satan is actively blinding the eyes of many to the truth. 2Corinthians 4:4

Anybody who truly believes he's sent by God for a purpose will never see any wrong with using violence to achieve the said purpose...The end justifies the means

Jesus believed he was sent by God yet how many times in the Bible did he use violence please? You still do not understand how true Christianity operates. Jesus regularly organized preaching campaigns for his disciples and gave them instructions to follow.
Matthew 10:5-16, Luke 10:1-12
So if someone did not accept their teachings, they were to immediately leave the house premises, not to force the householder to accept their message. Matthew 10:14

We Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize that our work is stated at Matthew 24:14, 28:19-20; Acts 1:8 and following the pattern set in the first century to go to people’s homes to preach and teach about Jehovah our God. So we are just going to plant and water the seed of truth in the heart of a honesthearted individual through discussion from the Bible(Malachi 3:16) but we don’t have the authority to force him to make the truth his own since it is God who will assist him to do that.
Romans 12:2, 1Corinthians 3:6

The kind of terror unleashed on ex - JWs members by their immediate family members and the organisation does not show that the claim of love that you claim exists is true. It is hypocritical and your claims are not honest. Any sincere person should just go to the you tube and find out. I am surprised to discover that those that come out call the organisation a cult.

Maximus'side and co. would like to defend an open secret. Please stop posting nonsense on Nairaland. It is all lies in hypocrisy..

Jesus said a lot about how his followers should love neighbours including their enemies. What of individuals who came to him, heard so much from him, agreed that he's a wonderful counselor but decline from following him? Luke 18:18-23
Well meditate on these Bible verses and try reach a conclusion on what Jesus had in mind against those who can't stand firm for righteousness:
WHOEVER..
Disown me before people i will also disown him! Matthew 10:32-33
Loves family ties than me is NOT WORTHY of me! Matthew 10:3
Begins working for/with me but stops and turns back is WORTHY OF ME! Luke 9:62
Hence the instruction we received from our frontiers is clear! Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11

So whoever turns his/her back on the spirit of LOVE, JOY and PEACE noticed in our midst just need to bid farewell to our global family, we aren't forcing anyone to stay neither are we begging them not to leave. You can't eat your cake and still have it!

MightySparrow:

I am surprised to discover that those that come out call the organisation a cult.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said a lot about how his followers should love neighbours including their enemies. What of individuals who came to him, heard so much from him, agreed that he's a wonderful counselor but decline from following him? Luke 18:18-23
Well meditate on these Bible verses and try reach a conclusion on what Jesus had in mind against those who can't stand firm for righteousness:
WHOEVER..
Disown me before people i will also disown him! Matthew 10:32-33
Loves family ties than me is NOT WORTHY of me! Matthew 10:3
Begins working for/with me but stops and turns back is WORTHY OF ME! Luke 9:62
Hence the instruction we received from our frontiers is clear! Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11

So whoever turns his/her back on the spirit of LOVE, JOY and PEACE noticed in our midst just need to bid farewell to our global family, we aren't forcing anyone to stay neither are we begging them not to leave. You can't eat your cake and still have it!

Disown me before people i will also disown him! Matthew 10:32-33
Loves family ties than me is NOT WORTHY of me! Matthew 10:3
Begins working for/with me but stops and turns back is WORTHY OF ME! Luke 9:62

So, your organisation is in the position of Jesus. My friend don't post any nonsense here again.

A good Bible student can easily spot the hypocrisy and unscriptural tune in this post.

MaxInDHouse:
Throughout the world today religionists are facing persecution one way or another

Good as you admitted that religionists are facing persecution.

Now the questions for you are:

1. What are they persecuted for?
2. What does the scripture say true worshipers will be persecuted for?

I'm waiting for your answers!

but noteworthy is the persecution of a global family of peace lovers!
This people are persecuted in their home land for refusing to support a race against another and for being neutral when there is political unrest.

The two reasons you pointed out here @underlined aren't the reason Christ said His followers will be persecuted for, so if this is what you called persecution then it's not Biblical but internal problem within your sect.

A mother and her son were both arrested, charged, judged and sentenced for being peacelovers!

And you still have JWs in those area, it means the rest of JWs there aren't peacelovers reason why they haven't been arrested.

When i read Jesus' statement in the Bible about how his peace loving followers will be maltreated and what Luke recorded regarding the persecution of Christians in Bible times i found it unbelievable,

Can you list what Jesus said His followers will be persecuted for and people who were persecuted and recorded by Luke?

Let's compare this with this your story!

i can't just grasp why a peaceful group will be the target of anyone when they're no treat to any Politician!

I could remember the same you sharing a picture of President Putin giving an award to a JWs family in Russia on this forum to justify that persecution of JWs in Russia is just a tool in media hands.

But fast forward to this moment, all your so evidences of persecution are from Russia.

Hypocrite!

Definitely you're always tormented to see the truth but i can't help you my friend, go and destroy America they are the propagators of
FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP!
Nobody can stop you from saying your God will destroy the whole earth leaving only your family as survivors {Matthew 24:37; Luke 17:26 compare to Genesis 19:16} it's your right to EXPRESS yourself but you can't stop others from EXPRESSING themselves! Act 4:18, 5:28

MightySparrow:

Disown me before people i will also disown him! Matthew 10:32-33
Loves family ties than me is NOT WORTHY of me! Matthew 10:3
Begins working for/with me but stops and turns back is WORTHY OF ME! Luke 9:62
So, your organisation is in the position of Jesus. My friend don't post any nonsense here again.

You're just going through torments seeing the truth on social media so i'll cut you off henceforth!

Emusan:

A good Bible student can easily spot the hypocrisy and unscriptural tune in this post.
Good as you admitted that religionists are facing persecution.Now the questions for you are:
[b]1. What are they persecuted for?
2. What does the scripture say true worshipers will be persecuted for?[/b]I'm waiting for your answers!The two reasons you pointed out here @underlined aren't the reason Christ said His followers will be persecuted for, so if this is what you called persecution then it's not Biblical but internal problem within your sect.And you still have JWs in those area, it means the rest of JWs there aren't peacelovers reason why they haven't been arrested.Can you list what Jesus said His followers will be persecuted for and people who were persecuted and recorded by Luke?
Let's compare this with this your story! I could remember the same you sharing a picture of President Putin giving an award to a JWs family in Russia on this forum to justify that persecution of JWs in Russia is just a tool in media hands.
But fast forward to this moment, all your so evidences of persecution are from Russia.
Hypocrite!

MaxInDHouse:
Definitely you're always tormented to see the truth but i can't help you my friend, go and destroy America they are the propagators of
FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP!
Nobody can stop you from saying your God will destroy the whole earth leaving only your family as survivors {Matthew 24:37; Luke 17:26 compare to Genesis 19:16} it's your right to EXPRESS yourself but you can't stop others from EXPRESSING themselves! Act 4:18, 5:28

Your own kind kind of truth. Not the Bible's. You cover up evil in your organisation to deceive people. Just pause, go to YouTube and see what your own people post about your organisation.

JWs is a scam. Wrong organisation producing wrong people for wrong the kingdom.

The highlighted!
They went out from us to prove to the whole world that they're not of our sort {1John 2:19} so how come you referred to them as 'your own people' ?

MightySparrow:

Your own kind kind of truth. Not the Bible's. You cover up evil in your organisation to deceive people. Just pause, go to YouTube and see what your own people post about your organisation.

JWs is a scam. Wrong organisation producing wrong people for wrong the kingdom.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted!
They went out from us to prove to the whole world that they're not of our sort {1John 2:19} so how come you referred to them as 'your own people' ?

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

I Ti. 4: 2


When I talked about delusion,..........
It will soon be your turn, those ones were once cork sure until their eyes were openes to see the evil being perpetrated by your elders and GB.


Some discovered after almost four decades. Your eyes will open one day, that day, you will remember my words.

They were born and brought up by JWs but they are not JWs!
The difference between a JW and a none JW is simple "We are the one and only group having the truth" so there is nothing that can make a real JW turn his back on the truth when there is none elsewhere! John 6:61-69
So PRESENT a better performing group than this Organization and see how millions will turn their back on the group, but when there is no other group you can prefer then know that those living are not JWs for real!

MightySparrow:

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
I Ti. 4: 2
When I talked about delusion,..........
It will soon be your turn, those ones were once cork sure until their eyes were openes to see the evil being perpetrated by your elders and GB.
Some discovered after almost four decades. Your eyes will open one day, that day, you will remember my words.

MaxInDHouse:
They were born and brought up by JWs but they are not JWs!
The difference between a JW and a none JW is simple "We are the one and only group having the truth" so there is nothing that can make a real JW turn his back on the truth when there is none elsewhere! John 6:61-69
So PRESENT a better performing group than this Organization and see how millions will turn their back on the group, but when there is no other group you can prefer then know that those living are not JWs for real!

You are the only one having delusionary truth. Truth, your own way. All you have is indoctrination, not knowledge, until you are able to distinguish between the two. Now, you can't. Not your fault, it is where you find yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
You're just going through torments seeing the truth on social media so i'll cut you off henceforth!

Imagine, why can't you deny you didn't post picture of President Putin accorded and award to a JWs family on this forum and let your lying liar mouth continue to be exposed?

A better performing group, that's all!

MightySparrow:

You are the only one having delusionary truth. Truth, your own way. All you have is indoctrination, not knowledge, until you are able to distinguish between the two. Now, you can't. Not your fault, it is where you find yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
A better performing group, that's all!

Comedians at the Gate of Paradise

There's no crime in riddles and jokes my friend, but the only way into the brains of a real JW is talks about the one and only pure worship!

MightySparrow:

Comedians at the Gate of Paradise

MaxInDHouse:
There's no crime in riddles and jokes my friend, but the only way into the brains of a real JW is talks about the one and only pure worship!

There is no impurity in the worship of Jehovah other the ones introduced by your GB.

Let's leave this matter my friend, if we can't relate through faith we can at least crack some jokes after all we are neighbours, so instead of always engaging in things that can't work between the two of us why not let's put smile on our faces? Mark 12:31
Your God will do what's best for you and my God will do His best for me, let's relate in some other ways my GOOD neighbour!

MightySparrow:
There is no impurity in the worship of Jehovah other the ones introduced by your GB.

In 2017 President Vladimir Putin declared the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses a terrorist group in his country but today the truth has prevailed. John 8:32
So who is the real terrorist, is it the group that will never raise a weapon against their fellowman or Vladimir Putin who is now terrorizing a whole nation (Ukraine)?

MaxInDHouse:
In 2017 President Vladimir Putin declared the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses a terrorist group in his country but today the truth has prevailed. John 8:32
So who is the real terrorist, is it the group that will never raise a weapon against their fellowman or Vladimir Putin who is now terrorizing a whole nation (Ukraine)?

But the same Putin presented an award of best parenting to a Jehovah witness family, which you shared on this forum

Should I remind you in case you've forgotten?

Emusan:


But the same Putin presented an award of best parenting to a Jehovah witness family, which you shared on this forum

Should I remind you in case you've forgotten?

Oh thank you Emusan!

MaxInDHouse:
Oh thank you Emusan!

Smile....at least you know a terrorist presented an award to a member of your family, the funny thing is even your organization published it on their website as a great achievement