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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EazyMoh(m): 8:35am On Apr 14, 2021
michlins:
What stops Dangote from sanctioning distributors who sell at outrageous prices. Cement no suppose pass 2600. The margin between the company price and market price is caused by someone and Dangote needs to find out where and who
He knows exactly who they are.

A major distributor in my area explained to me that when Dangote started his refinery project he withdrew almost all his money from cement replacing it by distributors' shares. Hundreds of them gave him N1.7bn each making it possible for him to divert his money from the cement to the refinery.

So, having secured the major source of cement the distributors first started by creating artificial scarcity then followed by the insane hike.

Dangote seems powerless because he cant refund them all their money at this stage to enable him sanction/not to sell to them.

The other government regulators who should protect the consumer are incompetent and compromised.

The best solution to me is to boycott Dangote cement. Or at least go on strike.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:54am On Apr 14, 2021
EazyMoh:

He knows exactly who they are.

A major distributor in my area explained to me that when Dangote started his refinery project he withdrew almost all his money from cement replacing it by distributors' shares. Hundreds of them gave him N1.7bn each making it possible for him to divert his money from the cement to the refinery.

So, having secured the major source of cement the distributors first started by creating artificial scarcity then followed by the insane hike.

Dangote seems powerless because he cant refund them all their money at this stage to enable him sanction/not to sell to them.

The other government regulators who should protect the consumer are incompetent and compromised.

The best solution to me is to boycott Dangote cement. Or at least go on strike.

grin grin

Let me ask you sir. If you buy cement at N3000, can anyone whether Dangote or Bihari tell you to sell at N3,000?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:01am On Apr 14, 2021
n3xt:


Most clients don’t know what they want until they see it.

That’s why most homeowners are not really happy with their finished build (especially here in Naija).

It’s the job of the professionals to bring their dreams into reality.

Anyone can draw but conceptualization is always the issue. A lot of Nigerian architects are so impatient and are always after money that they care less about clients satisfaction.

I do review my drawings more than 10 times in some occasion. I mean redrawing or having to come up with a new concept entirely just to meet a clients need.

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Nigerian architects can do traditional stuffs. No doubt about it. But when it comes to designing to International standard, there are very few who fit into that class (let’s use nairaland architects as a yardstick for now). I doubt we will count a dozen.

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When I see some drawings, I always smile.
I’m currently looking at one and I’m like “an architect draw this?” And he didn’t know the staircase won’t work.

In few days, the builder will be tearing down a wall because the staircase can’t work and up till moment they all don’t know it yet.

Fingers crossed.
Ok
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Again, anyone can draw. Only very few can come up with a great concept. That’s why there are not too many Frank Lloyd and Zaha Hadids in this world.




I understand you clearly, you see all still boiled down to client 1st brief, you can’t design without client brief, it’s after the briefs you now advise and come out with fantastic concept that will suit the client.

In every part of the work each area have there own type of structure that fit in there environment not that they can’t design American structure here.
That remained me of a gate see through design I fabricated for a client, the client said Ogbeni pls change the gate to fully covered one.
And the same concept was designed for another client and he love it.
How many people here in Nigeria will go for plane glass ( see through) for there bedroom or there sittingroom, they are just few.

Those that means Nigeria architect doesn’t know how to do this?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by debeey87(m): 9:03am On Apr 14, 2021
How much can I get 100bags of either bua, larfarge or dangote cements in Otta axis of sango otta. Anyone with a sure plug should please share. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:37am On Apr 14, 2021
rotecch77:


I understand you clearly, you see all still boiled down to client 1st brief, you can’t design without client brief, it’s after the briefs you now advise and come out with fantastic concept that will suit the client.

In every part of the work each area have there own type of structure that fit in there environment not that they can’t design American structure here.
That remained me of a gate see through design I fabricated for a client, the client said Ogbeni pls change the gate to fully covered one.
And the same concept was designed for another client and he love it.
How many people here in Nigeria will go for plane glass ( see through) for there bedroom or there sittingroom, they are just few.

Those that means Nigeria architect doesn’t know how to do this?

I get your point.

What’s contemporary to some folk is traditional to another. All the same, everything is a house.

Well done!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 10:05am On Apr 14, 2021
rotecch77:


Very nice design.

Everything boiled down to client choice.
The client is the one to give primary info before architect design such.
Our naija arch can design this perfectly ok , let’s forget jor ...olohun nothing hard In designing.

What matters is client choice, availability of materials and location(so many things associated with location here)

exactly, most clients and most especially the ones @brabus has knows what they want already so he need not start taking them through the process n the rigor of convincing them to
if your client gives you open check n flexibility over his build, many architects out there will give you more than all these. so it boils down to clients purse/ exposure n say some other factors.
if @brabus architect thinks he's crazy for his design, then your architect needs to up his/her game

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:18am On Apr 14, 2021
Horlardorjah:


exactly, most clients and most especially the ones @brabus has knows what they want already so he need not start taking them through the process n the rigor of convincing them to
if your client gives you open check n flexibility over his build, many architects out there will give you more than all these. so it boils down to clients purse/ exposure n say some other factors.
if @brabus architect thinks he's crazy for his design, then your architect needs to up his/her game

My client didn’t ask for an atrium. I gave it to him because of functionality.

If my client send me a design and I’m free I build it. If he asks me for a design, Ill give him what works best in his environment and situation.

I'll share some of the questions we ask when designing a house on kobocity.com to know it’s not always the clients that decides our design.

I’m doing a steel roof on my build. It wasn’t the client decision but ours.

Well let continue learning here
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:26am On Apr 14, 2021
Likewise, do all client know the difference between a zigzag staircase and floating/slabless staircase?

For me, I interface between my client and my architect to get a functional house.

I once shared here a drawing done by a leading architect in one of the most popular estate in Sangotedo Lagos. It pure crap and I had to redesign 3 of his works. The projects are here on nairaland and the clients can attest to this.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 10:39am On Apr 14, 2021
n3xt:


My client didn’t ask for an atrium. I gave it to him because of functionality.

If my client send me a design and I’m free I build it. If he asks me for a design, Ill give him what works best in his environment and situation.

I'll share some of the questions we ask when designing a house on kobocity.com to know it’s not always the clients that decides our design.

I’m doing a steel roof on my build. It wasn’t the client decision but ours.

Well let continue learning here



we are saying the same thing here, you know what your clients can afford and you give it to them n beside it will work for your design and client can afford the maintenance.

in terms of cost for the steel roof, how many client can afford it and how easy will it be to convince a client that doesn't have the exposure/knowledge and under strict/tight budget.

if your client can afford all the finishes you've showcased in here, cost for steel roof can never be an issue n either steel or wood, both will serve same function if well done

aside that, how much did you charge for your design? I'm sure it's not in the range of a hundred-two? so tell me how you won't go extra mile with your design Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:45am On Apr 14, 2021
Horlardorjah:




we are saying the same thing here, you know what your clients can afford and you give it to them n beside it will work for your design and client can afford the maintenance.

in terms of cost for the steel roof, how many client can afford it and how easy will it be to convince a client that doesn't have the exposure/knowledge and under strict/tight budget.

if your client can afford all the finishes you've showcased in here, cost for steel roof can never be an issue n either steel or wood, both will serve same function if well done

aside that, how much did you charge for your design? I'm sure it's not in the range of a hundred-two? so tell me how you won't go extra mile with your design Sir.


My cheapest drawing even in 2012 is 150k. I’m sure I never paid ihebrooke anything less than 150k for a complete drawing.

Today, a complete package start from avertage of 300k + but if we are the builder, we can go down a bit. There are drawing I do for as much as N1m + and above. We give it everything.

Will I review a 50k drawing 10 times when I’m not doing charity?

Clients too up your budget grin grin


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Well done bro!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 10:52am On Apr 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


1) Leaves

2) Nests

3) Accumulated dust



I believe the use of fulbora will help reduce the effect leaves n the likes might have.
as for the accumulated dust, it's not like we will be having heaps of them over time. this things don't just accumulate n cause havoc at a short while, it takes time and there are certain intervals u need do routine maintenance check which I think is compulsory in the western world.

To me and based on my experience so far, the maintenance is a normal thing to be done at a certain time and it's not like its pocket draining. climb through to you manhole n access your drain gutter with brooms n probably water hose to flush down after cleaning n we good.

let's hear others opinion n their experience too Sha.

#hailingstotheegunmogajihimself

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 10:53am On Apr 14, 2021
n3xt:


My cheapest drawing even in 2012 is 150k. I’m sure I never paid ihebrooke anything less than 150k for a complete drawing.

Today, a complete package start from avertage of 300k + but if we are the builder, we can go down a bit. There are drawing I do for as much as N1m + and above. We give it everything.

Will I review a 50k drawing 10 times when I’m doing charity?

Clients too up your budget grin grin


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Well done bro!



GBAM
oga has spoken, lemme send my aza oh
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 10:59am On Apr 14, 2021
Another of our projects

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:16am On Apr 14, 2021
Horlardorjah:


I believe the use of fulbora will help reduce the effect leaves n the likes might have.
as for the accumulated dust, it's not like we will be having heaps of them over time. this things don't just accumulate n cause havoc at a short while, it takes time and there are certain intervals u need do routine maintenance check which I think is compulsory in the western world.

To me and based on my experience so far, the maintenance is a normal thing to be done at a certain time and it's not like its pocket draining. climb through to you manhole n access your drain gutter with brooms n probably water hose to flush down after cleaning n we good.

let's hear others opinion n their experience too Sha.

#hailingstotheegunmogajihimself

Before, when I was a strapping lad, then yes I can spring about the yard and do stuff.

But now as a retiree/pensioner, I have other pressing things to worry about than roof blockage.

If I was back in the USA I would be looking at condos and what nots.

Hope you get my drift grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 12:29pm On Apr 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Before, when I was a strapping lad, then yes I can spring about the yard and do stuff.

But now as a retiree/pensioner, I have other pressing things to worry about than roof blockage.

If I was back in the USA I would be looking at condos and what nots.

Hope you get my drift grin

I personally don't recommended Condo you don't have control of the crazy HOA fee, it is killing me
for three I pay $250 each monthly for the other $360 to $385 ( still good investment )
I am very unhappy because of the HOA well over $2500.00 monthly
My brother just called me yesterday There is this condo
I told him I was done with condo
If all my condo was a house I don't see me spend over $2000.00 monthly for repairs
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:35pm On Apr 14, 2021
GoodFaith:


I personally don't recommended Condo you don't have control of the crazy HOA fee, it is killing me
for three I pay $250 each monthly for the other $360 to $385 ( still good investment )
I am very unhappy because of the HOA well over $2500.00 monthly
My brother just called me yesterday There is this condo
I told him I was done with condo
If all my condo was a house I don't see me spend over $2000.00 monthly for repairs

Oh, I will never live in any HOA scheme.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:51pm On Apr 14, 2021
Aforxzy:
Another of our projects

Nice one

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 3:59pm On Apr 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Before, when I was a strapping lad, then yes I can spring about the yard and do stuff.

But now as a retiree/pensioner, I have other pressing things to worry about than roof blockage.

If I was back in the USA I would be looking at condos and what nots.

Hope you get my drift grin


I get you very much now baba.
springing is for us, so allow us to continue the springing for you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:14pm On Apr 14, 2021
Una well done oh. Remember I'm your plug for metal works. I build using exact and precise materials and measurements. Ask my previous and existing clients.

No stories, just pay me and you go to sleep knowing that your money is working for you already.


Another week another job

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BuildingProject: 4:20pm On Apr 14, 2021
@next and Ègún.

At what stage does the work of an architect ends in build? even if he is the one supervising all the work been done by the artisans.

Cause am not understanding again oh.
Please I need your opinions.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 5:08pm On Apr 14, 2021
Someone was asking of something like this sometimes ago... so it’s possible to have multiple pipes inside borehole.. this location is lekki

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:22pm On Apr 14, 2021
BuildingProject:
@next and Ègún.

At what stage does the work of an architect ends in build? even if he is the one supervising all the work been done by the artisans.

Cause am not understanding again oh.
Please I need your opinions.

Based on USA experience it’s based on what was agreed upon.

For detailed high spec builds I’ll assume it’s at turn key.

Good luck on your project.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:24pm On Apr 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Oh, I will never live in any HOA scheme.

Don't go near Texas then. They all have HOAs, even stand alone single family houses

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 5:25pm On Apr 14, 2021
BuildingProject:
@next and Ègún.

At what stage does the work of an architect ends in build? even if he is the one supervising all the work been done by the artisans.

Cause am not understanding again oh.
Please I need your opinions.
It depends sir.
The agreement you have with the architect matters.
Note:
In contractual jobs, the architect serves as the client's representative, until the job is duly completed, and a certificate of completion is issued to the contractor by the architect, an architect is always involved.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 5:49pm On Apr 14, 2021
twinskenny:
Someone was asking of something like this sometimes ago... so it’s possible to have multiple pipes inside borehole.. this location is lekki

We replied the man that it is possible but surface pump to be used to different location
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:49pm On Apr 14, 2021
sonnie10:


Don't go here Texas then. They all have HOAs, even stand alone single family houses

I lived north of Dallas for four years.

You’re absolutely correct.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 5:50pm On Apr 14, 2021
uncleteeh:

It depends sir.
The agreement you have with the architect matters.
Note:
In contractual jobs, the architect serves as the client's representative, until the job is duly completed, and a certificate of completion is issued to the contractor by the architect, an architect is always involved.

Correct!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:08pm On Apr 14, 2021
topsy23:


We replied the man that it is possible but surface pump to be used to different location
oh okay saw various surface pump too

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 6:21pm On Apr 14, 2021
twinskenny:
oh okay saw various surface pump too
Yes this can happened when the bore hole is shallow so surface pump can suck the water easily.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:23pm On Apr 14, 2021
gbadexy:

I don't think pigments used on increte floor would retain the sharp and uniform colour for long once the sealant wears off.
You may use it as a screeding or tyrolene but include acrylic binder solution in the mix to retain colour and to reduce porosity and growth on it.

Thanks very much.
I appreciate.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by emmadejust(m): 6:38pm On Apr 14, 2021
Following & learning cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BuildingProject: 7:45pm On Apr 14, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Based on USA experience it’s based on what was agreed upon.

For detailed high spec builds I’ll assume it’s at turn key.

Good luck on your project.

He is to supervise till the roofing is done. Of which we're at the stage now. But he is telling me he needs to be involved in the interior design as well. And I told him that is not part of his jurisdiction but he is insisting I still need to keep him for supervising interior design and decorations.

So. Do I med his service on such decisions after giving the contract to those in such field?

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