BuildingProject:


Have you worked with @multicolour interiordezine before?

I’m just checking out her thread.
Going by what I’m seeing here, I don’t need anyone’s approval to work with a professional interior designer like this.

She’s got great taste and style and her style doesn’t look like she’s imposing. I’m not worried she can only deliver certain look.

I saw these stuffs in her portfolio and I really liked them.

_______

This is coming from a product of Sheffield School of Interior Design (now New York Institute of Art and Design)

n3xt:


I’m just checking out her thread.
Going by what I’m seeing here, I don’t need anyone’s approval to work with a professional interior designer like this.

She’s got great taste and style and her style doesn’t look like she’s imposing. I’m not worried she can only deliver certain look.

I saw these stuffs in her portfolio and I really liked them.

N3xt/Brabus, with great influence comes great responsibility lol.

You should be savvy enough to Google image search those pictures.

So, giving honest feedback on multicolour interiordezine ... I worked with her. I spent millions. The outcome was crap but, more importantly, it was a very dispiriting experience not just for me, but for my family.

Not recommended at all.

jabolo:


N3xt/Brabus, with great influence comes great responsibility lol.

You should be savvy enough to Google image search those pictures.

So, giving honest feedback on multicolour interiordezine ... I worked with her. I spent millions. The outcome was crap but, more importantly, it was a very dispiriting experience not just for me, but for my family.

Not recommended at all.

Shey nitori millions pere le shey type to yi?

Nero2424:
All you builders that erect big houses within 6 months, just asking for a friend, how do you make this money? This can also benefit me.

How old are you and your friend.

The short answer is some people use their 20s 30s and some part of their 40s to work very hard, invest, save and lay the foundation such that by the time they are in their 40s, 50s etc they have excellent credit, equity build up, investment draw downs etc that allows them to be in a position to do such.

For you and your friend ma fowuro e sere. Have some plan so that when opportunity arises you just go go go.

jabolo:


N3xt/Brabus, with great influence comes great responsibility lol.

You should be savvy enough to Google image search those pictures.

So, giving honest feedback on multicolour interiordezine ... I worked with her. I spent millions. The outcome was crap but, more importantly, it was a very dispiriting experience not just for me, but for my family.

Not recommended at all.

Sorry for your experience.

99% of successful project is all about supervision and management.

Certificates nor ratings or reviews isn’t a guarantee you’d get a good job. You must have someone with an eye for detail and great experience managing similar project to oversee all work.

Once again, I feel bad hearing about your experience.

sonnie10:


My single family HOA is over one thousand dollars yearly. God is helping to meet up, I dont pay for parking because I have 4 car garage inside the house. Drive way alone can take additional 4 cars

I remember when i was paying 280k for a house in Midwest for four bedrooms and two living rooms
A family member was building six bedrooms and three living rooms in Plano, Texas for 250k
My driveway can take six cars and two garage attached
The house a family member build in Plano, Texas will cost 500k to 700k in my city depend on the finishing

n3xt:


Sorry for your experience.

99% of successful project is all about supervision and management.

Certificates nor ratings or reviews isn’t a guarantee you’d get a good job. You must have someone with an eye for detail and great experience managing similar project to oversee all work.

Once again, I feel bad hearing about your experience.

I come in peace.

So if I hire a non Kazeem, I still have to supervise? Or are you saying that Kazeem has to monitor his staff?

Gracias.

EgunMogaji2:


I come in peace.

So if I hire a non Kazeem, I still have to supervise? Or are you saying that Kazeem has to monitor his staff?

Gracias.

I’ve been on many multi-billion naira projects in Nigeria. We don’t just leave things to chance.

A good example is an upscale development done in Milverton, Ikoyi Lagos in 2007.

The Project Owner/Director, Late Dr Alex Ekwueme (former Vice President first republic) meet with all the contractors every forthnight.

All contractors (professionals) are expected to prepare and submit their reports ahead of the meeting to the consultant and the major thing we do at the meeting is to discuss deliverables and dependencies.

This is not to say professionals are not engaged but just to keep everything in check.

______

I had a similar experience at the Protea Hotel, opposite Sheraton, Ikeja and many other upscale developments in Nigeria.

If Alex Ekwueme, the first president of the Nigeria Institute of Architect can do it, I believe it’s not a big deal.

Problem didn’t start on the last day. It always start with some symptoms that can only be diagnosed by professionals in the trade.

n3xt:


I’ve been on multi billion naira projects. We don’t just leave things to chance.

A good example is an upscale development done in Milverton, Ikoyi Lagos in 2007.

The Project Owner/Director, Dr Alex Ekwueme meet with all the contractors every forthnight.

All contractors (professionals) are expected to prepare and submit their reports ahead of the meeting to the consultant and the major thing we do at the meeting is to discuss deliverables and dependencies.

This is not to say professionals are not engaged but just to keep everything in check.

______

I had a similar experience at the Protea Hotel, opposite Sheraton, Ikeja and many other upscale developments in Nigeria.

If Alex Ekwueme, the first president of the Nigeria Institute of Architect can do it, I believe it’s not a big deal.

Problem didn’t start on the last day. It always start with some symptoms that can only be diagnosed by professionals in the trade.

Dude, answer my question I beg

By the way check your snail mail.

EgunMogaji2:


Dude, answer my question I beg

By the way check your snail mail.

To your question, if you hire a non-Kazeem, you need someone with wider experience in similar field to supervise him.

Otherwise who will perform the quality check? At what stage will the person be involved?

n3xt:


To your question, if you hire a non-Kazeem, you need someone with wider experience in similar field to supervise him.

Otherwise who will perform the quality check? At what stage will the person be involved?

Okay. But I’m still confused sha.

So if I hire Skimanski or Oga Spyder880 then I still need to hire a monitoring spirit?

EgunMogaji2:


Okay. But I’m still confused sha.

So if I hire Skimanski or Oga Spyder880 then I still need to hire a monitoring spirit?

Even FG and JB standard projects engage consultants.

Even spyder880 and skimanski won’t object to having a consultant supervise their project.

I just gave you example of an upscale project done in Ikoyi by one of the finest builder in Nigeria. There are several monitoring spirits involved at every stage of work.

Even banks do attend our meetings.

n3xt:


Even FG and JB standard projects engage consultants.

Even spyder880 and skimanski won’t object to having a consultant supervise their project.

I just gave you example of an upscale project done in Ikoyi by one of the finest builder in Nigeria. There are several monitoring spirits involved at every stage of work.

Even banks do attend our meetings.

You’re confusing me again Oga mi.

We’re talking small kobo kobo self financed projects here by mere mortals.

But the end gist is any client here that hires a big gun here has himself to blame for shoddy quality of work because he didn’t hire a independent overseer. Abi?

The reason I will consider hiring Skimanski, Rottech, AbdulWastecx, et al is the assumption of quality of work.

I learnt something new today. I guess.

GoodFaith:


I remember when i was paying 280k for a house in Midwest for four bedrooms and two living rooms
A family member was building six bedrooms and three living rooms in Plano, Texas for 250k
My driveway can take six cars and two garage attached
The house a family member build in Plano, Texas will cost 500k to 700k in my city depend on the finishing

No matter where, zip code is the determining factor. Parents with school age children who value education and know the importance of strong foundation and early beginning do go for residential areas with good school system. Those areas don’t come cheap whether in the North or Deep South. Plano, Texas is not one of them.

sonnie10:


No matter where, zip code is the determining factor. Parents with school age children who value education and know the importance of strong foundation and early beginning do go for residential areas with good school system. Those areas don’t come cheap whether in the North or Deep South. Plano, Texas is not one of them.

I know better than that
it is about zip code
The reason i bought in my City years ago
I was looking for upper mid class community
the below house will cost 700k in my city

https://www.dfwsearch.house/details.php?mls=37&mlsid=14555710

EgunMogaji2:


You’re confusing me again Oga mi.

We’re talking small kobo kobo self financed projects here by mere mortals.

But the end gist is any client here that hires a big gun here has himself to blame for shoddy quality of work because he didn’t hire a independent overseer. Abi?

The reason I will consider hiring Skimanski, Rottech, AbdulWastecx, et al is the assumption of quality of work.

I learnt something new today. I guess.

Let the people you mentioned above come and tell us they get it 100% right all the time.

Engaging an independent overseer is not because you doubted their ability to deliver but just to put things in check.

Funny enough, I’m doing the job of an independent consultant on one (not even one but 3 ) of the names you mentioned above without visiting their project site.

I knew there are several people doing same on my project too. I even recommend it to all my clients since 2012.

jabolo:


N3xt/Brabus, with great influence comes great responsibility lol.

You should be savvy enough to Google image search those pictures.

So, giving honest feedback on multicolour interiordezine ... I worked with her. I spent millions. The outcome was crap but, more importantly, it was a very dispiriting experience not just for me, but for my family.

Not recommended at all.

Hmmmm...
Can you most likely upload some of the crap here or you've changed the interiors she did for you over the years.......

EgunMogaji2:


You’re confusing me again Oga mi.

We’re talking small kobo kobo self financed projects here by mere mortals.

But the end gist is any client here that hires a big gun here has himself to blame for shoddy quality of work because he didn’t hire a independent overseer. Abi?

The reason I will consider hiring Skimanski, Rottech, AbdulWastecx, et al is the assumption of quality of work.

I learnt something new today. I guess.

Well, they will do you great job.
But being on the lookout isn't bad too. You too can chip in one or two ideas.
Knowledge is quite wide.

uncleteeh:

Well, they will do you great job.
But being on the lookout isn't bad too. You too can chip in one or two ideas.
Knowledge is quite wide.

There is also a case of too many cooks spoil the broth.

So where will it end? Should I also employ a checker to check the consultant? Should I also employ a checker to check the checker who checks the consultant? Where will the chain end? Who is the almighty; the final arbiter?

If you're an architect, you draw well. The bulk stops at your desk.

If you're a structural engineer, you structure well.

If you're an interior designer, you design well.

It is not good advice to over layer a project with too many unnecessary and overlapping processes. This will cause a delay. Each segment should take responsibility for their work and the client should hold responsible the respective segment for any poor outcome.

It is the client fault because the client didn't employ a marauding overseer. This is not on in the grand scheme of things. This is just spending money but not in the right places.

However, there is a place for a Project Manager whose duty it is to deliver the project.

GoodFaith:


I know better than that
it is about zip code
The reason i bought in my City years ago
I was looking for upper mid class community
the below house will cost 700k in my city

https://www.dfwsearch.house/details.php?mls=37&mlsid=14555710

True. That is why although Needam is just about 15mins away from Mattapan both in Boston MA, you wouldn’t find a 3 bedroom for less than $1M in Needam while for 200k you can get one in Mattapan. Zip code determines value for properties.

EgunMogaji2:


Okay. But I’m still confused sha.

So if I hire Skimanski or Oga Spyder880 then I still need to hire a monitoring spirit?

lol

diordaves:


There is also a case of too many cooks spoil the broth.

So where will it end? Should I also employ a checker to check the consultant? Should I also employ a checker to check the checker who checks the consultant? Where will the chain end? Who is the almighty; the final arbiter?

If you're an architect, you draw well. The bulk stops at your desk.

If you're a structural engineer, you structure well.

If you're an interior designer, you design well.

It is not good advice to over layer a project with too many unnecessary and overlapping processes. This will cause a delay. Each segment should take responsibility for their work and the client should hold responsible the respective segment for any poor outcome.

It is the client fault because the client didn't employ a marauding overseer. This is not on in the grand scheme of things. This is just spending money but not in the right places.

However, there is a place for a Project Manager whose duty it is to deliver the project.

That’s why it’s called an independent consultant.

Often times it’s not always about money. I cannot count the number of people I’ve helped save a lot of money here without even knowing their builder or where their project is.

I just did my job as a consultant.

______

In a sane clime, there are building inspectors who performs quality check on builds. .

#zurichinspector

diordaves:


There is also a case of too many cooks spoil the broth.

So where will it end? Should I also employ a checker to check the consultant? Should I also employ a checker to check the checker who checks the consultant? Where will the chain end? Who is the almighty; the final arbiter?

If you're an architect, you draw well. The bulk stops at your desk.

If you're a structural engineer, you structure well.

If you're an interior designer, you design well.

It is not good advice to over layer a project with too many unnecessary and overlapping processes. This will cause a delay. Each segment should take responsibility for their work and the client should hold responsible the respective segment for any poor outcome.

It is the client fault because the client didn't employ a marauding overseer. This is not on in the grand scheme of things. This is just spending money but not in the right places.

However, there is a place for a Project Manager whose duty it is to deliver the project.

Things don't really work that way , a structural drawing goes to ministry for approval which means another check from other Engineer sometimes internal check may omit some stuff or wont ask enough question from another point of view. If I design it goes through 6 checkers this drawing is a future guide which means this drawing have been conceptualize in paper before the construction team gets to work..

Now for site checker consultant

After this drawing contractor are found with it works in so so place we will do it like that here and they charge for same scope from the bill and it won't work like that..

The concrete grade they will mix for you with excuse of workability will definitely shock u .

Arrangements of reinforcement is not always right and they will cast and you the client will never know though they have used what was specified but in a wrong way..

Presently a PM and consultant on a project and I can tell you how the sub contactor don't like my presence much because dey feel I'm a time waster

I have also work on a project where all discipline have there consultant on site daily

Qs, mechanical , structural, Architect this exclude the contractor Team and they have their personal consultant to defend any suggestion or give reason why this must be that..

This is not for kobo kobo project ..give ur project to any Experience builder and visit regularly and have an understandable view things will work out fine

n3xt:


That’s why it’s called an independent consultant.

Often times it’s not always about money. I cannot count the number of people I’ve helped save a lot of money here without even knowing their builder or where their project is.

I just did my job as a consultant.

______

In a sane clime, there are building inspectors who performs quality check on builds. .

#zurichinspector

Let's break it down.

So for example, I engage the services of an architect. I will then engage the services of an independent consultant to check the work of the architect, right?

Now the question is: what is the qualification of the Independent Consultant (?) that qualifies them to check the work of the architect? In other words; what are you (the independent consultant) bringing to the table to assure me that you KNOW MORE than the architect in these matters? Are you also an architect? That is duplication and overlaying the process. Are you a Professor of Rocket Science? How relevant are your skills in this situation?

In my opinion, a seasoned architect will deliver either as a team or even as self-employed. As a client, any architect I think will need an independent consultant to deliver my brief to them; I will not engage in the first place. That na akoko (baby) architect.

uncleteeh:

Well, they will do you great job.
But being on the lookout isn't bad too. You too can chip in one or two ideas.
Knowledge is quite wide.

I think you missed the point.

Specifically at the names I used, if I have to monitor them then why hire them.

Amastermovic:


Things don't really work that way , a structural drawing goes to ministry for approval which means another check from other Engineer sometimes internal check may omit some stuff or wont ask enough question from another point of view. If I design it goes through 6 checkers this drawing is a future guide which means this drawing have been conceptualize in paper before the construction team gets to work..

Now for site checker consultant

After this drawing contractor are found with it works in so so place we will do it like that here and they charge for same scope from the bill and it won't work like that..

The concrete grade they will mix for you with excuse of workability will definitely shock u .

Arrangements of reinforcement is not always right and they will cast and you the client will never know though they have used what was specified but in a wrong way..

Presently a PM and consultant on a project and I can tell you how the sub contactor don't like my presence much because dey feel I'm a time waster

An independent consultant kept a project I did here on hold for almost 4 months because we wanted to introduce supplemental columns.

Now I know better.
______

I’m sure you can relate with the pic below my Oga.

sonnie10:


True. That is why although Needam is just about 15mins away from Mattapan both in Boston MA, you wouldn’t find a 3 bedroom for less than $1M in Needam while for 200k you can get one in Mattapan. Zip code determines value for properties.

Don't forget houses around Roxbury community college was give away some year ago
The price today are way up
We can't compare MA real estate value to Texas two different market and income
The income in Texas has being go up but the pay is more in MA
I would like to take my income and live in Texas
Federal worker making 100k in DC area and federal worker make 100k in Texas
Texas is better

diordaves:


Let's break it down.

So for example, I engage the services of an architect. I will then engage the services of an independent consultant to check the work of the architect, right?

Now the question is: what is the qualification of the Independent Consultant (?) that qualifies them to check the work of the architect? In other words; what are you (the independent consultant) bringing to the table to assure me that you KNOW MORE than the architect in these matters? Are you also an architect? That is duplication and overlaying the process. Are you a Professor of Rocket Science? How relevant are your skills in this situation?

In my opinion, a seasoned architect will deliver either as a team or even as self-employed. As a client, any architect I think will need an independent consultant to deliver my brief to them; I will not engage in the first place. That na akoko (baby) architect.

Do a research on the origin of a Project Manager".......not this project management that's been taught in our Higher Institutions.....

bixton:




Do a research on the origin of a Project Manager".......not this project management that's been taught in our Higher Institutions.....

Why should I carry out a research on the origin of a Project Manager? What do you think I will learn to help shape my views?

n3xt:


An independent consultant kept a project I did here on hold for almost 4 months because we wanted to introduce supplemental columns.

______

I’m sure you can relate with the pic below my Oga.

Lol the consultant at that moment is your client which you will fulfill all his obligation with test from approved place and those cubes sabi put person for trouble ..

Amastermovic:


Lol the consultant at that moment is your client which you will fulfill all his obligation with test from approved place and those cubes sabi put person for trouble ..

Foundation - Concrete Cube Test
Superstructure - Schmidt Hammer Test
First Floor Slab - Concrete Cube Test
Roof Slab - Roof Integrity/Water Ponding Test

I can list at least 30 integrity tests - the holy grail of quality build.

Amastermovic:


Things don't really work that way , a structural drawing goes to ministry for approval which means another check from other Engineer sometimes internal check may omit some stuff or wont ask enough question from another point of view. If I design it goes through 6 checkers this drawing is a future guide which means this drawing have been conceptualize in paper before the construction team gets to work..

Now for site checker consultant

After this drawing contractor are found with it works in so so place we will do it like that here and they charge for same scope from the bill and it won't work like that..

The concrete grade they will mix for you with excuse of workability will definitely shock u .

Arrangements of reinforcement is not always right and they will cast and you the client will never know though they have used what was specified but in a wrong way..

Presently a PM and consultant on a project and I can tell you how the sub contactor don't like my presence much because dey feel I'm a time waster

I have also work on a project where all discipline have there consultant on site daily

Qs, mechanical , structural, Architect this exclude the contractor Team and they have their personal consultant to defend any suggestion or give reason why this must be that..

This is not for kobo kobo project ..give ur project to any Experience builder and visit regularly and have an understandable view things will work out fine

Let's break it down - part 2

Now for site checker consultant

With reference to your first paragraph; at what point does the independent consultant come in? Before submitting the drawing to the Local Government for approval? If yes; what is your qualification to assure me that you KNOW MORE than the whole team (architect team) because the final conceptualisation went through Mechanical, Structural and Electrical engineers. So for me to engage an independent consultant, you must demonstrate that you know more than these professionals put together.

It is the same situation if the independent consultant comes in after the Local Government approval.

Now the site checker.

In a normal situation, the local authority should be the 'site checker' to make sure you're building according to the building code. If you engaged a tested team of builders with integrity, I do not think you need any consultant. To do what? If you need a consultant to close mark the builders to make sure they use the right mix-ration (for example), you should not be engaging such builders in the first place. They lack integrity.

What assurances do you have that the consultant does have integrity? Where does the checkmate end? Who takes final responsibility? Where does the bulk stop?