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I want to believe you mean to write Western here because Itsekiris had nothing to do with the East. Plus they speak Yoruba n not Yoruboid. I know for a fact there language is closer to Yoruba than what is spoken in Ondo n Ekiti state.

Efewestern:
Itsekiri: They are a minority group whose language is more related to Eastern Yoruboid dialects like Ikale, Ilaje and Ijebu, they have good relationship with western Nigeria, during the creation of Midwest, notable Itsekiris like O.N. Rewane and the then Olu were against it. Well, they were greatly favored by Awolowo, whose Ijebu tribe founded several Itsekiri communities.

Midwest alignment is with either zones is kinda complicated. I'll say they align with South East Politically and align with South West South West culturally since they were formerly in the Western Region.

tribalmall:
I want to believe you mean to write Western here because Itsekiris had nothing to do with the East. Plus they speak Yoruba n not Yoruboid. I know for a fact there language is closer to Yoruba than what is spoken in Ondo n Ekiti state.

No sir.
Eastern Yoruba are Ogun, Ondo, Ekiti

Western Yoruba are Osun, Oyo, Lagos.

Itshekiri language is a mixture of Ilaje and Ijebu.
If you hear any of this, then you can understand itshekiri (95%)

Efewestern:
Midwest is a collection of various unique groups with the Urhobos being majority. There is no direct answer to your question, but I will make a little contribution just for the sake of those who aren't farmiliar with the region.

Midwest is made up of Anioma (Igbo), Bini, Esan, Urhobo/Isoko, Itsekiri and Ijaw. Some of these ethnic groups have alliances to either East or West, while some are neutral.

URHOBO/ISOKO: Urhobo being the major group in the region and a major power bloc shares similar culture with Bini, and speak an Edoid Language. Before the amalgamation of Nigeria, the Urhobos had less contact with those across the Niger and it was only during the Palm oil boom did they migrated West-ward, that was in the 1900-1980's. Because of the little or less contact with either region, the Urhobos have always maintained a neutral position.

Bini/Esan: Bini is an ancient kingdom that greatly influenced some Eastern subgroups and some parts of western region, because of their ancient glory, they have maintained a neutral ground and have resisted several attempt to lump them with either East or West, as we can see with their battles with Awolowo in the then Western region.

Anioma: Being an Igbo speaking people, they have maintained a good relationship with their blood relations across the Niger, during the Civil War, they were the only Midwestern group that showed support to the Eastern region.

Ijaw: They have always shown interest in uniting all Ijaw territory, while working with other groups in the region to fight for a common goal, so like the Urhobos and Binis, the Ijaws are neutral.

Itsekiri: They are a minority group whose language is more related to Eastern Yoruboid dialects like Ikale, Ilaje and Ijebu, they have good relationship with western Nigeria, during the creation of Midwest, notable Itsekiris like O.N. Rewane and the then Olu were against it. Well, they were greatly favored by Awolowo, whose Ijebu tribe founded several Itsekiri communities.

You're on point.

tribalmall:
I want to believe you mean to write Western here because Itsekiris had nothing to do with the East. Plus they speak Yoruba n not Yoruboid. I know for a fact there language is closer to Yoruba than what is spoken in Ondo n Ekiti state.

Itshekiri and Igala languages are Yoruboid languages

These are Yoruboid languages
Igala
Itshekiri
Lucumi
Yoruba

tribalmall:
I want to believe you mean to write Western here because Itsekiris had nothing to do with the East. Plus they speak Yoruba n not Yoruboid. I know for a fact there language is closer to Yoruba than what is spoken in Ondo n Ekiti state.

There's no much wrong with his assertion, except Ìjẹ̀bú is classed among central Yoruba dialects along with Ifẹ̀. Ilajẹ, Ìkálẹ̀, Ondo, Ọ̀ghọ̀, Àkúrẹ́ etc. are indeed eastern Yoruba dialects, because they are spoken in the "Eastern part of Yoruba land".
Ṣe ó yé ọ nísinsìnyí àbúrò?

tribalmall:
I want to believe you mean to write Western here because Itsekiris had nothing to do with the East. Plus they speak Yoruba n not Yoruboid. I know for a fact there language is closer to Yoruba than what is spoken in Ondo n Ekiti state.

Yoruboid - A branch of Yoruba language
Edoid - A branch of Edo language
Igboid - A branch of Igbo language

Eastern Yoruboid - A language spoken in Eastern Yoruba land, like Ikale, Ilaje and Ijebu, the Itsekiris share more in common with these Eastern groups than they share with others.

I hope I'm clear?

kalu61:
Midwest is mixture of people from South West e.g Kogi has yorubas, Benue has people from SE, Nasarawa has hausa. Aside, they are smaller ethnic groups scattered in the Midwest just like in Niger Delta. Remember, Geo political zones was invented for political reasons likewise state and local government.

Even though it's difficult to say which angle the Midwest will align, their hearts are more in South than north. Religion wise and cultural wise, you can see the angle they are tilted towards.

I don't see then aligning, rather agitate for their own independence.

Nna read very well and understand nahhhh.

I've read the first page and I must say I'm really disappointed at the level of fallacious comments there. One fallacy that kept repeating itself from various NLers is that the west, the east or the north created the Midwest. This is absolutely bullshit and I encourage you all to read your history so you are grounded properly

When you understand how and why the Midwest was formed. it would give you a direction to where their alliance lie

Ilaje44:
There's no much wrong with his assertion, except Ìjẹ̀bú is classed among central Yoruba dialects along with Ifẹ̀. Ilajẹ, Ìkálẹ̀, Ondo, Ọ̀ghọ̀, Àkúrẹ́ etc. are indeed eastern Yoruba dialects, because they are spoken in the "Eastern part of Yoruba land".
Ṣe ó yé ọ nísinsìnyí àbúrò?

Gbam.

Dude, there is nothing Eastern about Yoruba Itsekiri Edo Ijaw n all other. It is either West or South make you carry your nonsense go front.

Efewestern:
Yoruboid - A branch of Yoruba language
Edoid - A branch of Edo language
Igboid - A branch of Igbo language

Eastern Yoruboid - A language spoken in Eastern Yoruba land, like Ikale, Ilaje and Ijebu, the Itsekiris share more in common with these Eastern groups than they share with others.

I hope I'm clear?

Edeyoung:
When biafra is formed

There will be a daily unrest between the distinct igbos from the majour igbos, corruption would revage their country, their politician will use the advantage of their disunity for their political gains


Oduduwa republic : that another mess not only will they historically go back fighting themselves like they did before the arrival of the British they will also segregate themselves along clans, their false history of Oduduwa homogeneity that held them in Nigeria, wont hold them again, because it was not historical but a made up false history by awolowo to hold yorubas together for political benefits they will be constant religious wars, within the Oduduwa republic, thats why you will hardly see a yoruba man agitating for a republic because they know their fate if they have one



Arewa republic : another rubbish republic they are only united because they have a common enemy down south as soon as that enemies goes, they become their own enemies, the hausa will revolt against the Fulanis, and endless war will erupt, the fulanis will definitely loose and flee back to their ancestral lands.....


Edo republic: will triumph the oba would have certain amount of political influence in the new republic, they would work tirelessly to stand again as the empire once recognize around the world, corruption would be absolute dealt with
And they will once more come Invade bifra and Oduduwa and arewa Republic



Niger delta republic :would also progress if they wont let corruption thrives, if they do it would be worst than the three major republic, if they dont, it will be a very rich republic


This i have seen.....


Oduduwa, arewa, biafra are going to fail, speaking a common language is not unifying factor for a republic


A southern Nigeria maybe all our first option the second option his dinstingration

You are too funnicated,why don't you pick a career in comedy.i love your comedy tip

The Midwest was formed, when the yorubas tried to suffocate we edos with their traditions and cultire and even insulted the oba of Benin, the Benin began working away to pull out of the western region therein, but it seems it was only the edos who wanted out at that moment, then awolowo made the biggest mistake making olu of itsekiri the olu of warri which angerd the urohobos and ijaws and they joined hands with the edos to pull out of the western region, the itsekiri had no choice and was pulled alongside Midwestern region


You saying edos in particular would align and join Oduduwa's republic would be meant with a bloody resistance... We dont align with cowards of a republic....

Efewestern

Skillsnigeria:
You are too funnicated,why don't you pick a career in comedy.i love your comedy tip

Pained truth

Edeyoung:
When biafra is formed

There will be a daily unrest between the distinct igbos from the majour igbos, corruption would revage their country, their politician will use the advantage of their disunity for their political gains


Oduduwa republic : that another mess not only will they historically go back fighting themselves like they did before the arrival of the British they will also segregate themselves along clans, their false history of Oduduwa homogeneity that held them in Nigeria, wont hold them again, because it was not historical but a made up false history by awolowo to hold yorubas together for political benefits they will be constant religious wars, within the Oduduwa republic, thats why you will hardly see a yoruba man agitating for a republic because they know their fate if they have one



Arewa republic : another rubbish republic they are only united because they have a common enemy down south as soon as that enemies goes, they become their own enemies, the hausa will revolt against the Fulanis, and endless war will erupt, the fulanis will definitely loose and flee back to their ancestral lands.....


Edo republic: will triumph the oba would have certain amount of political influence in the new republic, they would work tirelessly to stand again as the empire once recognize around the world, corruption would be absolute dealt with
And they will once more come Invade bifra and Oduduwa and arewa Republic



Niger delta republic :would also progress if they wont let corruption thrives, if they do it would be worst than the three major republic, if they dont, it will be a very rich republic


This i have seen.....


Oduduwa, arewa, biafra are going to fail, speaking a common language is not unifying factor for a republic


A southern Nigeria maybe all our first option the second option his dinstingration

day dreamer....southern Nigeria my foot

let the igbos go and fail....thanks for your concern.
we don't need your southern nigeria.

tribalmall:
Did there is nothing Eastern about Yoruba Itsekiri Edo Ijaw n all other. It is either West or South make you carry your nonsense go front.

Learn to take corrections, took my time to educate you on basics.

Done with this convo.

NaMe4:
The truth is Midwest is more aligned historically, culturally, socially, politically with the West.



South-south, Mid-west, etc are politically engineered terms.

Midwest was constitutionally created via referendum.

middlebelter:
It is a difficult question to answer. Old Mid-West is actually part of the West and should remain so. However, for political negotiations purposes, Abacha created six geopolitical zones primarily to benefit the North with massive landmass to the detriment of the South.

When our fathers negotiated the independence of the geographical expression called Nigeria, it was done on a tripod. Modern society or country are created on negotiations table if they intend to co-exist not a single region called North using advantage of military dominance to oppress others. Six Geopolitical zones was never negotiated, it was imposed. So where is the HQ of SS? Benin or Port Harcourt?
My take , if the Mid West wish to be part of SS, it must be negotiated not imposed. Port Harcourt has always been part of SE.
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You're seriously suffering from extreme hate and poor mental reasoning for completely deviating from the thread to descend ur hates on North without waiting for the right thread to express ur hatred.
Most states created in Nigeria are as a result of socio-political tension mostly marginalisation of some section of the old states by more advantaged section. [Go and check facts from each state created]
For instance, within the current states in Nigeria there are always rising issues of power shift from one senatorial zone to another which in wise states who don't dwell on one political party lead to tension & disrupt of the agreement and consequently lead to political brouhaha even among states with the same tribe and religion. Right now SE and some SS, Benue, Taraba, states are facing communal clashes due to land dispute, those places if given chance they'll seek for state creation. Moreover, religious tension is another factor. If u ask Southern Kaduna Christian dominated part may ask for Independence, if u ask JOS North where is Muslims dominated part they'll ask for the same thing not knowing that if Africans will eschew religious intolerance, bias, ethno-religious bigotry and struggle for dominance it will be better for us to live together for more understanding & exposure. That's why I respect Yoruba people for their level of religious tolerance despite the religious line existing between them.
State created by Military brought more peace and socio-political cohesion than your bias assertion. North has enough land before your demi gods brought us together!
If NASS ask groups to present the papers from those asking for state creation there will be need of states more than the co-existing ones.

Coronabirus:
You're seriously suffering from extreme hate and poor mental reasoning for completely deviating from the thread to descend ur hates on North without waiting for the right thread to express ur hatred.
Most states created in Nigeria are as a result of socio-political tension mostly marginalisation of some section of the old states by more advantaged section. [Go and check facts from each state created]
For instance, within the current states in Nigeria there are always rising issues of power shift from one senatorial zone to another which in wise states who don't dwell on one political party lead to tension & disrupt of the agreement and consequently lead to political brouhaha even among states with the same tribe and religion. Right now SE and some SS, Benue, Taraba, states are facing communal clashes due to land dispute, those places if given chance they'll seek for state creation. Moreover, religious tension is another factor. If u ask Southern Kaduna Christian dominated part may ask for Independence, if u ask JOS North where is Muslims dominated part they'll ask for the same thing not knowing that if Africans will eschew religious intolerance, bias, ethno-religious bigotry and struggle for dominance it will be better for us to live together for more understanding & exposure. That's why I respect Yoruba people for their level of religious tolerance despite the religious line existing between them.
State created by Military brought more peace and socio-political cohesion than your bias assertion. North has enough land before your demi gods brought us together!
If NASS ask groups to present the papers from those asking for state creation there will be need of states more than the co-existing ones.

I almost agree with you up to 50% but for your lack of decent social language. Internal wranglings are there no doubt but there's no way you can successfully rewrite the history of atrocities committed by the military especially under IBB and Abacha just to favour the North against the South. You may continue your blind arguments and ignore the fact that I have highlighted, one thing is sure, Nigeria will still come back to address those issues or the issues will disolve Nigeria as a political entity.