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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 9:54pm On Apr 22, 2021
salford1:
This one stabbed people in the mosque yet was disarmed and arrested.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysw3K6eewpE
And that is how proper policing is done. No shots fired.
There are many videos like that on YouTube. I am just too lazy to search them up as well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:54pm On Apr 22, 2021
LMAO pigshiit now log off and go face your stinking reality below grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:57pm On Apr 22, 2021
salford1:
This one stabbed people in the mosque yet was disarmed and arrested.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysw3K6eewpE
Do you know the situation they found him in?

Stop making assumptions.

Police job is to protect members of the public from imminent harm. This guy could have finished his work and was in non threatening position when they found him. If they found him lunging at someone and they have gun, they will shoot him there and then.

If they found him with hands up or not in close proximity to a member of the public, even after stabbing someone, they will arrest him. It's a simple stuff.

If that Policeman had arrived after that girl had already killed the other girl and she was in a non threatening position, she will likely be arrested rather than shot. Killers get arrested everyday.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f):
Chris Christie is reportedly planning on running for president in 2024.

I read that Tim Scott will give the GQP rebuttal in Biden's state of the union address next week the GQP had to pick a black man so that they won't seem racist. I think Scott wants to run too.

And the darling of MAGAts governor Deathsantis is who they want to run in 2024 that is if he survives re-election next year self grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 10:00pm On Apr 22, 2021
Ibime:
Do you know the situation they found him in?

Stop making assumptions.

Police job is to protect members of the public from imminent harm. This guy could have finished his work and was in non threatening position when they found him. If they found him lunging at someone and they have gun, they will shoot him there and then.

If they found him with hands up or not in close proximity to a member of the public, even after stabbing someone, they will arrest him. It's a simple stuff.

If that Policeman had arrived after that girl had already killed the other girl and she was in a non threatening position, she will likely be arrested rather than shot. Killers get arrested everyday.
I wasn't expecting an essay, but here we go again lol

No shot fired again and suspect was arrested.

At this point, ibime is just defending and protecting his deflated ego.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35018789

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:03pm On Apr 22, 2021
salford1:
I wasn't expecting an essay, but here we go again lol
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35018789
And you are yet to show me where Police arrived while a member of the public was being lunged at.

Killers get arrested everyday, even black ones, many times after just committing a murder. What matters is the imminency of the threat.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 10:09pm On Apr 22, 2021
Ibime:
And you are yet to show me where Police arrived while a member of the public was being lunged at.

Killers get arrested everyday, even black ones, many times after just committing a murder. What matters is the imminency of the threat.
grin grin grin
Bro. You are losing it. I think you need to take a rest.

In the last video. The guy had been stabbing people and currently trying to stab policemen, yet he was disarmed without being killed. He had made his intent know and was still in the act.
That guy is still a threat to the public and the police.
If this was the US, you would have asked the police to shoot him multiple times. I had to refrain from calling you an hypocrite.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 10:33pm On Apr 22, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Isn't it an irony that these whackos are pro-life buy rejoice when police kill people unnecessarily.

Isn't it also an irony that the same pro life folks were happy when the Capitol police officer was stamped to death by far right wingers that invaded the capitol.

Bunch of low life hypocrites.
You're an idiot
And I'm not mentioning you to change your mind

You're a fool believing mainstream media propaganda

How many blacks kill blacks that media cover

Which black death did not relate to criminal activity or assumed criminal activity

I repeat you're a bloody fool, like most blacks ignorant and stupid , drawn to welfarism and socialism

Don't quote me

Idiot
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 10:39pm On Apr 22, 2021
Ibime:
And you are yet to show me where Police arrived while a member of the public was being lunged at.

Killers get arrested everyday, even black ones, many times after just committing a murder. What matters is the imminency of the threat.
Good luck talking sense to a brick
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:47pm On Apr 22, 2021
salford1:
grin grin grin
Bro. You are losing it. I think you need to take a rest.

In the last video. The guy had been stabbing people and currently trying to stab policemen, yet he was disarmed without being killed. He had made his intent know and was still in the act.
That guy is still a threat to the public and the police.
If this was the US, you would have asked the police to shoot him multiple times. I had to refrain from calling you an hypocrite.
Guy, park well. No be because of debate you go dey form Jackie Chan.

Leytonstone attacker that did damage, left the station and came back and was not in imminent danger of harming a member of the public at the moment Police came in. Commuters have already scattered over the barriers and onto the concourse and the man was even carrying bread knife. A station I know like the back of my hand, you just woke up today spewing ignorance and forming Google analyst on what you know nothing about.

Police reserve the right to shoot during imminent danger to a member of the public. Your ignorant Google analysis won't change that. Don't think you are riling me up, or I'm playing games with you, just trying to correct your ignorance. If you want RoboCop, go to Hollywood.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 10:48pm On Apr 22, 2021
Dapcity007:
You're an idiot
And I'm not mentioning you to change your mind

You're a fool believing mainstream media propaganda

How many blacks kill blacks that media cover

Which black death did not relate to criminal activity or assumed criminal activity

I repeat you're a bloody fool, like most blacks ignorant and stupid , drawn to welfarism and socialism

Don't quote me

Idiot
Who is this?
You must be one of the roaches talked about on this thread.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 10:51pm On Apr 22, 2021
Birds of a feather.
Basket of deplorables.
I can't even tell the difference between ibime and the others nutcases here. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 10:55pm On Apr 22, 2021
salford1:
Birds of a feather.
Basket of deplorables.
I can't even tell the difference between ibime and the others nutcases here. grin
Such Joy from cumming into Amazon Topaz anus


Lolz
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Weregonnalose: 10:58pm On Apr 22, 2021
salford1:
Birds of a feather.
Basket of deplorables.
I can't even tell the difference between ibime and the others nutcases here. grin
Ibime this is what you get for showing him facts
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 10:58pm On Apr 22, 2021
That's real Tempur Luxe mattress grin

AmazonTopaz:
LMAO pigshiit now log off and go face your stinking reality below grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 10:59pm On Apr 22, 2021
salford1:
Birds of a feather.
Basket of deplorables.
I can't even tell the difference between ibime and the others nutcases here. grin
Hey. What did I tell you? His fellow cockroaches are hailing him on. He is neither here nor there. Just winging it to save face.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 11:05pm On Apr 22, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Hey. What did I tell you? His fellow cockroaches are hailing him on. He is neither here nor there. Just winging it to save face.
I will leave it there. I don't have the time to go back and forth with him. I am still at work and time is money.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:05pm On Apr 22, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Hey. What did I tell you? His fellow cockroaches are hailing him on. He is neither here nor there. Just winging it to save face.
Cockroach for telling it as it is. If you don't know, go and check my debates on several Police incidents before I even posted on this thread. We may be anti-GQP but we don't have to be mad. Let your daughter be the one getting lunged at with a knife and come back and repeat this nonsense. Better yet book a flight to London and come and protest these shootings.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 11:09pm On Apr 22, 2021
Ibime:
Cockroach for telling it as it is. If you don't know, go and check my debates on several Police incidents before I even posted on this thread. We may be anti-GQP but we don't have to be mad. Let your daughter be the one getting lunged at with a knife and come back and repeat this nonsense. Better yet book a flight to London and come and protest these shootings.
Mr Ibime, I just had to reply this post. I should be better spending my time at work.

No. You mentioned at some point that you are happy there are only 2 or 3 police casualty in the UK and you love it like that. You should also know the reason for that is because the police over there are well trained and manage/de-escalate situations better. They are not so quick to squeeze the trigger or bring in armed unit everytime. Imagine if the UK police where to shoot every suspect in the massive number of knife attacks in the UK, do you honestly think the casualty would be at 2 or 3 deaths per year. I don't think so.

We also have guns (alot of it in Canada), yet we have rates as death rates from police shooting very low. Even as low as some countries in Europe without guns. The difference is the training of cops.

At the same time, you are for the US police shooting at sight to kill at any instance of threat. If that is not hypocrisy as I mentioned earlier, then I don't know what it is.

That's not hard to understand.

Your daughter could also be the attacker with a knife and would get fatal gunshot from the cops . Maybe that would make you happy.

I am done with this back and forth.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Weregonnalose: 11:12pm On Apr 22, 2021
Ibime:
Cockroach for telling it as it is. If you don't know, go and check my debates on several Police incidents before I even posted on this thread. We may be anti-GQP but we don't have to be mad. Let your daughter be the one getting lunged at with a knife and come back and repeat this nonsense. Better yet book a flight to London and come and protest these shootings.
The fascists you see on TV are no different from this fools you align yourself with. You are not allowed to disagree with them. Nazi and kkk are better than them cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Weregonnalose: 11:15pm On Apr 22, 2021
The scum salford1 said if she was white she would still be alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0VasyvXEo

I guess this one is not white.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m):
salford1:
No. You mentioned at some point that you are happy there are only 2 or 3 police casualty in the UK and you love it like that. You should also know the reason for that is because the police over there are well trained and manager situations better.
At the same time, you are for the US police shooting at sight to kill
If that is not hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.
Can you quote where I said that?

If you know my stance on these matters, you will know that my theory is that neither citizens nor Police feel threatened by each other in UK which leads to de-escalation of 99.9% of situations, unlike Yankee where every interaction can escalate into a Western stand-off.

Statistically, this reduces fatalities by measure of up.to 99%. It is a good price to pay for Police not being armed on the odd occasion a nutcase may kill someone and Police is not equipped with guns to react.

That does not take away Police right to protect members of the public by shooting anyone putting a fellow citizen in imminent danger.

Nothing to do with training. All Police are human, and even in UK, we have Trident team that have overreacted in situations and shot people dead.

You cannot train away fatalities that come from the whole population plus Police being armed with deadly weapons. The future of race relations in the USA cannot be dependent on Police getting shootings down to zero because that is unrealistic in a nation where guns outnumber people 2 to 1. I am behind George Floyd but I'm not behind protesting the shooting of someone about to kill someone cos it's unproductive. It simply comes with the territory of having armed population and armed police.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 11:40pm On Apr 22, 2021
The key word there is if he SURVIVE his reelection next year knowing that he barely won against a Brother last time.
AmazonTopaz:
Chris Christie is reportedly planning on running for president in 2024.

I read that Tim Scott will give the GQP rebuttal in Biden's state of the union address next week the GQP had to pick a black man so that they won't seem racist. I think Scott wants to run too.

And the darling of MAGAts governor Deathsantis is who they want to run in 2024 that is if he survives re-election next year self grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 11:45pm On Apr 22, 2021
I am pro law enforcement myself if the enforcement is without bias. If I as a citizen can carry a weapon,
I surely believe that police officers should do too. My point of disagreement with you is that the police will give Whites the benefit of doubt that they never extended to Black and Hispanics. I am not a threatening guy and I carry myself well but I dread having any contact with them because you don't even know if the officer is a White supremacist or not.
Ibime:
Can you quote where I said that?

If you know my stance on these matters, you will know that my theory is that neither citizens nor Police feel threatened by each other which leads to de-escalation of 99.9% of situations, unlike Yankee where every interaction can escalate into a Western stand-off.

Statistically, this reduces fatalities by measure of up.to 99%. It is a good price to pay for Police not being armed on the odd occasion a nutcase may kill someone and Police is not equipped with guns to react.

That does not take away Police right to protect members of the public by shooting anyone putting a fellow citizen in imminent danger.

Nothing to do with training. All Police are human, and even in UK, we have Trident team that have overreacted in situations and shot people dead.

You cannot train away fatalities that come from the whole population plus Police being armed with deadly weapons. The future of race relations in the USA cannot be dependent on Police getting shootings down to zero because that is unrealistic in a nation where guns outnumber people 2 to 1. I am behind George Floyd but I'm not behind protesting the shooting of someone about to kill someone cos it's unproductive. It simply comes with the territory of having armed population and armed police.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:05am On Apr 23, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
I am pro law enforcement myself if the enforcement is without bias. If I as a citizen can carry a weapon,
I surely believe that police officers should do too. My point of disagreement with you is that the police will give Whites the benefit of doubt that they never extended to Black and Hispanics. I am not a threatening guy and I carry myself well but I dread having any contact with them because you don't even know if the officer is a White supremacist or not.
In the UK, I don't care if a Police Officer is racist or not. Why? Because he doesn't have a gun to do anything to me. I have never had any criminal interaction with Police except going to Police Station to report my bike stolen many moons ago. If I see Police on the street, I even greet them.

Even in Yankee, I don't think there is any incentive for a racist Police man to kill a black man and have his life turned upside down, chased out of his home and watch his back for the rest of his life etc. How does that achieve his vision for his life even if he is racist? In many of these killings, we are even starting to see black officers on the scene, so is it really a race issue as such or a weapons issue?

In many of these Police departments, especially in Cities, a Police officer will have black superiors that will deal with him, even white superiors that won't want such heat coming to their Police force and their city. The truth is no Police officer goes to work hoping to get caught in a life changing situation by killing a black man. 90% of the problem in Yankee is due to guns and fear of the other party having guns, and you also have some Police officers who are just jittery in dealing with situations. If you take guns out of the situation, the statistics drop tremendously and tensions reduce to where we are dealing with a handful of cases like George Floyd killing. The future of race relations cannot be dependent on getting Police killings to zero in a country where everyone is armed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 12:33am On Apr 23, 2021
Ibime:
In the UK, I don't care if a Police Officer is racist or not. Why? Because he doesn't have a gun to do anything to me. I have never had any criminal interaction with Police except going to Police Station to report my bike stolen many moons ago. If I see Police on the street, I even greet them.

Even in Yankee, I don't think there is any incentive for a racist Police man to kill a black man and have his life turned upside down, chased out of his home and watch his back for the rest of his life etc. How does that achieve his vision for his life even if he is racist? In many of these killings, we are even starting to see black officers on the scene, so is it really a race issue as such or a weapons issue?

In many of these Police departments, especially in Cities, a Police officer will have black superiors that will deal with him, even white superiors that won't want such heat coming to their Police force and their city. The truth is no Police officer goes to work hoping to get caught in a life changing situation by killing a black man. 90% of the problem in Yankee is due to guns and fear of the other party having guns, and you also have some Police officers who are just jittery in dealing with situations. If you take guns out of the situation, the statistics drop tremendously and tensions reduce to where we are dealing with a handful of cases like George Floyd killing. The future of race relations cannot be dependent on getting Police killings to zero in a country where everyone is armed.
The police officers here in US are overwhelmingly good officers but the bad apples are being protected by what we call Blue Line of Defense where the good cops cover for the bad ones. Never have any problem with law enforcement all my life but on couple occasions I have run a stop sign and if you are black in America, you never know how that stop might end. I have seen a case of a police officer in Suburban Chicago with a Nazi tattoo on his chest and I guess some officers are tired of him they snitched him out. Imagine being stop by a confirmed nazi officer with a badge and a Glock at his side. You hype on guns but guns in America is part of what America is all about. I rather live in US where I know I can at least defend my family against some house burglars rather than a country where I will see my wife and daughters being violated and I will be kneeling begging for these hoodlums to spare my family. What as America needs to do is weed out these trigger happy offices but they are very reserved when they have to deal with white people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1:
PrideofLincoln1:
The police officers here in US are overwhelmingly good officers but the bad apples are being protected by what we call Blue Line of Defense where the good cops cover for the bad ones. Never have any problem with law enforcement all my life but on couple occasions I have run a stop sign and if you are black in America, you never know how that stop might end. I have seen a case of a police officer in Suburban Chicago with a Nazi tattoo on his chest and I guess some officers are tired of him they snitched him out. Imagine being stop by a confirmed nazi officer with a badge and a Glock at his side. You hype on guns but guns in America is part of what America is all about. I rather live in US where I know I can at least defend my family against some house burglars rather than a country where I will see my wife and daughters being violated and I will be kneeling begging for these hoodlums to spare my family. What as America needs to do is weed out these trigger happy offices but they are very reserved when they have to deal with white people.
Union as well. It is also well known that the police union in the USA operate just like mafias.

When I worked union, we used to joke that for an employee to get kicked out of the company, that means the employee must have stolen something big or did something very stupid that caused the death of another employee. And this is just for a union of electrical workers in the power system field. Imagine if it was now a police union where they have more at stake. The union would often time stand behind their member even when the member commits 1/10th of an offence that would have easily led to a termination in a private owned business. There are several lazy employees that would rather stick with a union job even if that union job pays less than a private company willing to double their wages.

I am pro-police as well, and here in Canada, I feel they deserve the 6 figure wages they receive. However, I dislike bad cops anywhere in the world. Luckily, we don't have lots of those ones here in Canada. Just like our immigration system that filters out riff-raffs, goodluck to anyone trying to get an interview to join a police department in Canada without atleast 2 years completed law/enforcement diploma or a four years related degree in law enforcement/criminology..

I mentioned in previous post that the US police often lack proper training. An interesting article below from the BBC. I am sure there are many like that on the web. Just don't have time to look for them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41314562

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 4:15am On Apr 23, 2021
nihilistjnr:
Pump pump, pump pump pump tax up!

Joe Budden really tripping

43% capital gains tax!
Machin will put a stop to this lol.

Biden probably put this out to test the waters...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 4:17am On Apr 23, 2021
salford1:
As per the girl with a knife. I haven't read the details nor seen the clip.

However, a similar incident happened maybe 2 months ago in Calgary, Canada. The cops were able to disarm the man.

As I have always mentioned, there is something obviously wrong with the way US police are trained. They just go the easy way out. Shoot to kill.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/knife-wielding-man-arrested-in-northeast-calgary-mosque-1.5259386
Watched the video yesterday and honestly you can't blame the cop on this one.

The girl would've 100 percent stabbed the other one in pink.

The true villains in this sad story are the 3 useless hags who jumped on a 14 year old.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m):
edi287:
Watched the video yesterday and honestly you can't blame the cop on this one.

The girl would've 100 percent stabbed the other one in pink.

The true villains in this sad story are the 3 useless hags who jumped on a 14 year old.
Is it necessary for the police officer to shoot the sixteen year old four times in the chest ?. Whatever happened to shooting her in the leg to disable her. As vile as the young lady is, that kind of shooting is unnecessary and I can bet you that if that sixteen year old is white, she would still be alive. Kyle Rittenhouse was having his AR 15 on his body after killing two people in Kenosha and he was not shot by the police and he was given a bottle of cold water to drink afterward. Dylan Roof killed 9 people in a church Bible study in Charleston, South Carolina and he was never shot when he was arrested and in fact he was bought a DoubleCheese Burger when he complained of being hungry. You know the difference is that the last two guys are White while the sixteen year old that was shot dead was Black. Think about that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 5:06am On Apr 23, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Is it necessary for the police officer to shoot the sixteen year old four times in the chest ?. Whatever happened to shooting her in the leg to disable her. As vile as the young lady is, that kind of shooting is unnecessary and I can bet you that if that sixteen year old is white, she would still be alive. Kyle Rittenhouse was having his AR 15 on his body after killing two people in Kenosha and he was not shot by the police and he was given a bottle of cold water to drink afterward. Dylan Roof killed 9 people in a church Bible study in Charleston, South Carolina and he was never shot when he was arrested and in fact he was bought a DoubleCheese Burger when he complained of being hungry. You know the difference is that the last two guys are White while the sixteen year old that was shot dead was Black. Think about that.
And of course. The cop was an expert marksman.
I pray the soul of the girl rest in peace.

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