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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 11:47am On Apr 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
You can't be conservative and not be a right winger. Right wingers are conservative. It depends on how conservative they are:

Center right meaning only moderately conservative

Far right meaning ultraconservative such as Fascist and Nazis
Wrong. You can be conservative and not be right wing or political. Ask Jehovah's witness.

Conservatism is a philosophy first and foremost
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 11:50am On Apr 25, 2021
basilico:
What was dailymail stand on ISIS refugees and corresponding terror attacks in Europe

Their stand on Brexit?
https://www.indy100.com/news/what-happens-when-you-comment-on-daily-mail-articles-with-hitler-quotes-7276031.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 11:52am On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Exactly. I didn't mention this because dude is mostly lowkey
Yes. He is low-key, but throws his weigh behind conservatism just like the founder (his great grand pa or grandpa's brother- I am not sure which one is it). The great grandpa also admires Hitler and Musollini. Couple of pictures of the the old man and Hitler is littered all over the internet. Good on him that he doesn't have extremist views like his forebearers.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 11:52am On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
Wrong. You can be conservative and not be right wing or political. Ask Jehovah's witness.

Conservatism is a philosophy first and foremost
Lol.
I want to catch some sleep.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 11:55am On Apr 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Lol.
your photo says in politics. That's says it all.

Being a Conservative has nothing to do with political party.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 11:56am On Apr 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Yes. He is low-key, but throws his weigh behind conservatism just like the founder (his great grand pa it grandpa's brother- I am not sure). The great grandpa also admires Hitler and Musollini. Couple of pictures of the the old man and Hitler is littered all over the internet. Good on him that he doesn't have extremist views like his forebearers.
Dailymail's comment section alone is enough to determine its right wing outlet.
It gets full on Nazi sometimes https://www.indy100.com/news/what-happens-when-you-comment-on-daily-mail-articles-with-hitler-quotes-7276031
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 11:58am On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
your photo says in politics. That's says it all.

Being a Conservative has nothing to do with political party.
Well. Last time I checked, this section of Nairaland is political. American politics being discussed on this thread is political.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 12:00pm On Apr 25, 2021
In addition, what led to your argument was by claiming owner of the daily mail was conservative but not right wing. When conservative party is right wing as far as politics is concerned.
Heck, his interview was even about politics and Tories (right wing).

I can't relate how we moved to non-politics section or religious section (talking about JW) lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 12:02pm On Apr 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Well. Last time I checked, this section of Nairaland is political. American politics being discussed on this thread is political.
And this excuse does not make sense.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 12:12pm On Apr 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
In addition, what led to your argument was by claiming owner of the daily mail was conservative but not right wing. When conservative party is right wing as far as politics is concerned.
Heck, his interview was even about politics and Tories (right wing).

I can't relate how we moved to religious section (talking about JW) lol.
I am only trying to help you not mixup words or see everyone who says they are conservative as right wing. Some of them vote liberals.

So again, from there publication etc. How are they right or left wing?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 12:14pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Dailymail's comment section alone is enough to determine its right wing outlet.
It gets full on Nazi sometimes https://www.indy100.com/news/what-happens-when-you-comment-on-daily-mail-articles-with-hitler-quotes-7276031
What is nazi?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 12:20pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
What is nazi?
Read the article and see why I used the term "Nazi"
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 12:30pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Read the article and see why I used the term "Nazi"
I am asking you because of the man who cried wolf.
You guys miss-apply those words that it has lost its meaning. It simply means people who you disagree with these days.

Whitesupremacist, kkk etc. Are all a group that are hardly a problem today but they are called every now and then to shutdown a conversation.

My close friend bayelsaowei introduced me to this forum and when I came. Because I have different point of views and in Nigeria. PrideofLincoln1 thinks he was better than me, richer than me because he is in the US. He was insulting anyone that disagrees with thim calling them uncle Tom and nazi.

Now tell me if that's not how Whitesupremacist behave? He thinks because he is in The US and you are not he is better.

He says Nigeria is dirty filled with diseases. Is that not bigotry?

Have you asked yourself how he sees you because of your geographic location? If he attacks people who disagrees with him like that what will happen if you disagree with him?

I am saying this because he like calling people nazi but he behaves like a nazi. And if you are sincere to yourself you would have called him out.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 12:55pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
I am asking you because of the man who cried wolf.
[/b]You guys miss-apply those words that it has lost its meaning. It simply means people who you disagree with these days[b].

Whitesupremacist, kkk etc. Are all a group that are hardly a problem today but they are called every now and then to shutdown a conversation.

My close friend bayelsaowei introduced me to this forum and when I came. Because I have different point of views and in Nigeria. PrideofLincoln1 thinks he was better than me, but I richer than me because he is in the US. He was insulting anyone that disagrees with thim calling them uncle Tom and nazi.

Now tell me if that's not how Whitesupremacist behave? He thinks because he is in The US and you are not he is better.

He says Nigeria is dirty filled with diseases. Is that not bigotry?

Have you asked yourself how he sees you because of your geographic location? If he attacks people who disagrees with him like that what will happen if you disagree with him?

I am saying this because he like calling people nazi but he behaves like a nazi. And if you are sincere to yourself you would have called him out.
Read the article. I said "full on Nazi" based on the "experiment" that took place in the article. The comments on there are alt right/far right talking points.

Diversity of thought is not an issue. I'm sorry if PrideofLincoln1 insulted you unfairly. It is wrong. However, you've seen how some fools insult people's families in a middle of the debate.

Ideally discussions on here should be respectful and occasionally intense but not to the extent of bringing people's families into it. Unfortunately some foolish idiots did and they better get used to whatever replies they get.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 1:08pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
I am asking you because of the man who cried wolf.
You guys miss-apply those words that it has lost its meaning. It simply means people who you disagree with these days.

Whitesupremacist, kkk etc. Are all a group that are hardly a problem today but they are called every now and then to shutdown a conversation.

My close friend bayelsaowei introduced me to this forum and when I came. Because I have different point of views and in Nigeria. PrideofLincoln1 thinks he was better than me, richer than me because he is in the US. He was insulting anyone that disagrees with thim calling them uncle Tom and nazi.

Now tell me if that's not how Whitesupremacist behave? He thinks because he is in The US and you are not he is better.

He says Nigeria is dirty filled with diseases. Is that not bigotry?

Have you asked yourself how he sees you because of your geographic location? If he attacks people who disagrees with him like that what will happen if you disagree with him?

I am saying this because he like calling people nazi but he behaves like a nazi. And if you are sincere to yourself you would have called him out.
Prideoflincoln1 was right after all.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 1:18pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Read the article. I said "full on Nazi" based on the "experiment" that took place in the article. The comments on there are alt right/far right talking points.

Diversity of thought is not an issue. I'm sorry if PrideofLincoln1 insulted you unfairly. It is wrong. However, you've seen how some fools insult people's families in a middle of the debate.

Ideally discussions on here should be respectful and occasionally intense but not to the extent of bringing people's families into it. Unfortunately some foolish idiots did and they better get used to whatever replies they get.
It is not about him insulting me. It is about you aligning yourself with what you know is wrong because you seem to be on the same side of the argument.

I called my friend out on this. But these insult don't annoy me. At a point I told him he is behaving like that because he is emotionally weak.

That other guy Kokobilo87 has insulted me as well and trust me, PrideofLincoln1 has been doing that long before anyone became so childish.

The article you posted is no different from the left. Most of them are Fascist and I see it on this forum too.

I can give examples.
But you need to understand that we humans are broken. We will always be in conflict as long as there is this thing called sets or group. Anything that differentiate us will cause problems and conflict. Things that differentiate us are

Video games,
Race,
Tribe,
country,
Football team,
Gender,
Family,
Religion
Etc.

It is human nature. Racism is part of human nature. Until you accept that fact you will always see yourself as a victim.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 1:22pm On Apr 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Prideoflincoln1 was right after all.
Yeah,
Give us reasons witg Example and footage. I will wait
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 1:31pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
It is not about him insulting me. It is about you aligning yourself with what you know is wrong because you seem to be on the same side of the argument.

I called my friend out on this. But these insult don't annoy me. At a point I told him he is behaving like that because he is emotionally weak.

That other guy Kokobilo87 has insulted me as well and trust me, PrideofLincoln1 has been doing that long before anyone became so childish.

The article you posted is no different from the left. Most of them are Fascist and I see it on this forum too.

I can give examples.
But you need to understand that we humans are broken. We will always be in conflict as long as there is this thing called sets or group. Anything that differentiate us will cause problems and conflict. Things that differentiate us are

Video games,
Race,
Tribe,
country,
Football team,
Gender,
Family,
Religion
Etc.

It is human nature. Racism is part of human nature. Until you accept that fact you will always see yourself as a victim.
Both sides have extremists. Call them out. Simple. It's not like I agree with everything Democrats do. You should not agree with everything Republicans do.
I just gave an example of the extremism on the right just like you've given examples of the ones on the left.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 1:42pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Both sides have extremists. Call them out. Simple. It's not like I agree with everything Democrats do. You should not agree with everything Republicans do.
I just gave an example of the extremism on the right just like you've given examples of the ones on the left.
I honestly don't agree with everything they do. But the lies the left spread is too much. I wasn't even a trump fan till I saw how they manipulate us.

If Trump was racists all this while do you think the media wouldn't tell you? They only cared because he ran as a republican.

Ben Carson is called all sort of names and even racist because he does not align with the democrats.

You are seeing an example of the media attacking an officer that saved someone's life.

Chauvin case. From all I saw and watch I think he would get manslaughter but he got murder but same exact thing that happened in 2016 the court dismiss the case.

Me and my friend argue about that. I told him I won't know if justice was served concerning Chauvin or they caved to pressure.

You see Maxine Waters saying if it is not guilty verdict they should confront.

You are in Nigeria and what you will call racism in the US it is called tribalism in Nigeria. You see how ikwere man sees bayelsa man and how igbo man sees yoruba man etc.

Again we are humans and broken.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 1:47pm On Apr 25, 2021
Also edi287 you talk about white Supremacist, kkk. They can be bad. The media always talk about them. But tell me how they compare to antifa today.

Which one is causing much destruction and attacking people who disagrees with them. Which one has tried to lock cops in and burn them so many times?

Why is antifa not seen as a terror group by the DHS?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 1:49pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
I honestly don't agree with everything they do. But the lies the left spread is too much. I wasn't even a trump fan till I saw how they manipulate us.

If Trump was racists all this while do you think the media wouldn't tell you? They only cared because he ran as a republican.

Ben Carson is called all sort of names and even racist because he does not align with the democrats.

You are seeing an example of the media attacking an officer that saved someone's life.

Chauvin case. From all I saw and watch I think he would get manslaughter but he got murder but same exact thing that happened in 2016 the court dismiss the case.

Me and my friend argue about that. I told him I won't know if justice was served concerning Chauvin or they caved to pressure.

You see Maxine Waters saying if it is not guilty verdict they should confront.

You are in Nigeria and what you will call racism in the US it is called tribalism in Nigeria. You see how ikwere man sees bayelsa man and how igbo man sees yoruba man etc.

Again we are humans and broken.
This guy lol.

Trump's racist past is well documented before he ever thought of running for the POTUS.

Have you been living under the rock...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 1:51pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
Also edi287 you talk about white Supremacist, kkk. They can be bad. The media always talk about them. But tell me how they compare to antifa today.

Which one is causing much destruction and attacking people who disagrees with them. Which one has tried to lock cops in and burn them so many times?

Why is antifa not seen as a terror group by the DHS?
Let me guess. The DHS and FBI are deep state grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 1:52pm On Apr 25, 2021
Edi, you are dealing with another conspiracy theorist/Q disciple.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 1:56pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
Also edi287 you talk about white Supremacist, kkk. They can be bad. The media always talk about them. But tell me how they compare to antifa today.

Which one is causing much destruction and attacking people who disagrees with them. Which one has tried to lock cops in and burn them so many times?

Why is antifa not seen as a terror group by the DHS?
Antifa gets condemned by some on the left. I'm tired of posting screenshots of Democrats condemning violent protests/looting.

Trump's FBI director said Antifa weren't a terror group. Is Wray now leftist??
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 1:58pm On Apr 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Edi, you are dealing with another conspiracy theorist/Q disciple.
Nothing wrong with having a convo..as long as he's not insulting anyone's family.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 2:04pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Nothing wrong with having a convo..as long as he's not insulting anyone's family.
cool

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 2:04pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Antifa gets condemned by some on the left. I'm tired of posting screenshots of Democrats condemning violent protests/looting.

Trump's FBI director said Antifa weren't a terror group. Is Wray now leftist??
I am asking you. Are they?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 2:06pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Nothing wrong with having a convo..as long as he's not insulting anyone's family.
Don't mind him. He is looking for only people that agrees with him. We can have a discussion and we are allowed to disagree with each other.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 2:30pm On Apr 25, 2021
benalvino2:
I am asking you. Are they?
I don't support Antifa.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:43pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
I don't support Antifa.
So you mean you are not in support of Anti-fascism undecided


Almost every WWII veteran was Antifa.Antifa goes a long way oga and it is not an extremist group just an ideology against fascism
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:45pm On Apr 25, 2021
edi287:
Antifa gets condemned by some on the left. I'm tired of posting screenshots of Democrats condemning violent protests/looting.

Trump's FBI director said Antifa weren't a terror group. Is Wray now leftist??
There is no where were riots and violence was linked with Antifa or BLM stop listening to right wing lies that was how they initially wanted to paint the insurrection on Antifa.Please don't waste your time engaging that confused dude just like his likes on this thread they are known to twist fact
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 2:54pm On Apr 25, 2021
AmazonTopaz:
There is no where were riots and violence was linked with Antifa or BLM stop listening to right wing lies that was how they initially wanted to paint the insurrection on Antifa.Please don't waste your time engaging that confused dude just like his likes on this thread they are known to twist fact
Edi287 this is a good example of the people on this forum. Do they care about the truth or are they different from the Qanon zombie they talk about?

You see how ridiculous this post is. And she is trying to coach you on how to think.

Try as much as you can to be objective. Truth is antifa has cause more terror and damage compared to what you see on any right-wing group. Proudboys, kkk, white Supremacist. You just have to look at it. They burn business, houses, cars and beat people up who disagrees with them.

It is clear for her to see.
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