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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 6:05pm On May 06, 2021
FirstbornWds:
How can you say that calling someone an underachiever is not an insult?

Are you normal?
Do you know what it means to say that a coach who has coached at the highest level for over 15 years is merely an experiment and a gamble? I do not have 15 years experience in my career but if someone tells me I am an experiment or a gamble, I will find it very disrespectful.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:13pm On May 06, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Do you know what it means to say that a coach who has coached at the highest level for over 15 years is merely an experiment and a gamble? I do not have 15 years experience in my career but if someone tells me I am an experiment or a gamble, I will find it very disrespectful.
And what exactly has he done in the 15 years of coaching?

Shall I begin to list his failures?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:18pm On May 06, 2021
Pedigree over quantity!!! grin grin angry
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 6:18pm On May 06, 2021
SonOfAfonja:
And what exactly has he done in the 15 years of coaching?

Shall I begin to list his failures?
He won Copa Del Rey.

Lol.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:21pm On May 06, 2021
GrammarNazi1:
He won Copa Del Rey.

Lol.
Yay!!!! gringrin let’s extend his contract till 2050
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 6:22pm On May 06, 2021
FirstbornWds:
It's an obvious truth bro.


Pep, and Zidane were experiments at some point until they cemented a place to being classy managers. Barcelona and Madrid took a gamble with them and it paid off. Koeman, considering his previous run with club teams doesn't fit to be our manager but then, he's our coach after all and except seeking extraordinary happens, he's proven to spend another season with us.


So yes.... He's an experiment. A see-if Barcelona experiment.
Koeman already won a copa del rey with Valencia before even Pep and Zidane started their coaching careers.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 6:26pm On May 06, 2021
SonOfAfonja:
And what exactly has he done in the 15 years of coaching?

Shall I begin to list his failures?
Why don't you list his success?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 6:28pm On May 06, 2021
Koeman is better than Pep and Zidane then.

Lol.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 6:28pm On May 06, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Do you know what it means to say that a coach who has coached at the highest level for over 15 years is merely an experiment and a gamble? I do not have 15 years experience in my career but if someone tells me I am an experiment or a gamble, I will find it very disrespectful.
Every coach is an experiment or gamble na. That's why they are sacked if they don't meet the objectives of the club most times. Life itself is a gamble Honestly if I'm you I'll just take firstbornwds advice and apologize to grammar. Your provocation was uncalled for
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 6:37pm On May 06, 2021
ddippset:
Eediot you see how you shot yourself in the foot. grin

Your delusion has made you think we are discussing which club has better players, Barca or Madrid. When in actual fact i was trying to make the point that Madrid and Athleti have more experienced and established players than us so Koeman tried.

The bolded you typed actually proves what am saying and shows the reason why Koeman should be appreciated.

So thanks for making my point,

Yeye boy, you will leave bobi and be sucking tumor.
I'm 80% sure it's virus or melvyn that's behind that account Instead of him to reason how his team wouldn't end up trophyless this season. It's another team's coach that he's carrying on his head like eggrolls Payaso
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:38pm On May 06, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Why don't you list his success?
He’s got booted out more than winning Copa del reys undecided
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 6:39pm On May 06, 2021
When I saw JP's post, I wanted to write that it was very unnecessary, but I said let me sit and watch grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 6:40pm On May 06, 2021
Kilishihunter:
I'm 80% sure it's virus or melvyn that's behind that account Instead of him to reason how his team wouldn't end up trophyless this season. It's another team's coach that he's carrying on his head like eggrolls Payaso
Most likely Melvyn...

You remember him right??

The open play/closed play guy.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 6:49pm On May 06, 2021
ddippset:
Most likely Melvyn...

You remember him right??

The open play/closed play guy.
The Niccur has been missing since Madrid fell his hand after all his braggings on the Chelsea thread Seems he couldn't handle the pain
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 6:52pm On May 06, 2021
Kilishihunter:
Every coach is an experiment or gamble na. That's why they are sacked if they don't meet the objectives of the club most times. Life itself is a gamble Honestly if I'm you I'll just take firstbornwds advice and apologize to grammar. Your provocation was uncalled for
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 6:54pm On May 06, 2021
Kilishihunter:
Every coach is an experiment or gamble na. That's why they are sacked if they don't meet the objectives of the club most times. Life itself is a gamble Honestly if I'm you I'll just take firstbornwds advice and apologize to grammar. Your provocation was uncalled for
I disagree that every coaching job is a gamble. If you thought something will most likely fail, why would you even try it out? Do you know that CVs are submitted and interviews conducted before the coach is finally appointed? These are processes geared towards ensuring the best coaches are hired and they do not have to fail. Of course they do fail eventually but attempts were made to ensure they succeeded. Those attempts are never mere experiment or gamble.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 6:56pm On May 06, 2021
homesteady:
When I saw JP's post, I wanted to write that it was very unnecessary, but I said let me sit and watch grin
Well, it wasn't. I had a good point.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 7:00pm On May 06, 2021
cheesy grin

This guy no go kill person.

Lol.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 7:00pm On May 06, 2021
homesteady:
When I saw JP's post, I wanted to write that it was very unnecessary, but I said let me sit and watch grin
Or post one of their pictures? cool cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 7:03pm On May 06, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Why don't you list his success?
-RO16 ucl appearance
-Copa del rels
-Scoring in each of his ElClasico match(but chopped Ls)
-super cup finalist
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FergieRaww(m): 7:06pm On May 06, 2021
FirstbornWds:
Na yeye things you day always pick on.


Your personality is disgusting
K
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:16pm On May 06, 2021
devvy44:
Or post one of their pictures? cool cheesy
No pictures. I have agreed with homesteady. No more haymekus treatment. wink smiley smiley We will henceforth treat our belligerent cules with 'kid gloves' grin grin grin No more picture treatment.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 7:20pm On May 06, 2021
jpmoriarti:
I disagree that every coaching job is a gamble. If you thought something will most likely fail, why would you even try it out? Do you know that CVs are submitted and interviews conducted before the coach is finally appointed? These are processes geared towards ensuring the best coaches are hired and they do not have to fail. Of course they do fail eventually but attempts were made to ensure they succeeded. Those attempts are never mere experiment or gamble.
They can as well leave them till eternity because they passed one out of a hundred interviews

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:33pm On May 06, 2021
Kilishihunter:
They can as well leave them till eternity because they passed one out of a hundred interviews
Well, football clubs are not ran by mere gambling or experiment or trial-and-error. There are well known processes in place such as hiring and firing a coach. These are well known processes. They're not gambling or experiments. Any football club that gambles with these processes is sure heading to utter ruin. Gambling belongs to the casinos and betting shops.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 7:42pm On May 06, 2021
Keoman was appointed less than a week after our match against Bayern. He had about 1 month before the season started.

Aside Depay and Wijnaldum, is there any other player he wanted that he did not get?

Why exactly should we be happy or satisfied with Keoman when there is literally a UCL finalist led by a coach that took over mid season. He is not just luckily leading them to a UCL trophy, he has properly drilled the team into a tough side.

Even if Chelsea ends up trophyless, and we end up wining Copa, which team will you bet on having a better next season?
We are 5 matches to the end of this season and you people are still using "he met a team in crisis" as an excuse grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 7:46pm On May 06, 2021
homesteady:
Keoman was appointed less than a week after our match against Bayern. He had about 1 month before the season started.

Aside Depay and Wijnaldum, is there any other player he wanted that he did not get?

Why exactly should we be happy or satisfied with Keoman when there is literally a UCL finalist led by a coach that took over mid season. He is not just luckily leading them to a UCL trophy, he has properly drilled the team into a tough side.

Even if Chelsea ends up trophyless, and we end up wining Copa, which team will you bet on having a better next season?
We are 5 matches to the end of this season and you people are still using "he met a team in crisis" as an excuse grin
He is the only coach to have met a team in crisis.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 7:46pm On May 06, 2021
jpmoriarti:
No pictures. I have agreed with homesteady. No more haymekus treatment. wink smiley smiley We will henceforth treat our belligerent cules with 'kid gloves' grin grin grin No more picture treatment.
Birds of the same feathers.........2 senseless cules
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:49pm On May 06, 2021
homesteady:
Keoman was appointed less than a week after our match against Bayern. He had about 1 month before the season started.

Aside Depay and Wijnaldum, is there any other player he wanted that he did not get?

Why exactly should we be happy or satisfied with Keoman when there is literally a UCL finalist led by a coach that took over mid season. He is not just luckily leading them to a UCL trophy, he has properly drilled the team into a tough side.

Even if Chelsea ends up trophyless, and we end up wining Copa, which team will you bet on having a better next season?
We are 5 matches to the end of this season and you people are still using "he met a team in crisis" as an excuse grin
If you check my former posts, you will find where I am of the opinion that he has to be sacked after the way we exited the UCL. Only a league win should save his career.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 8:05pm On May 06, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Well, football clubs are not ran by mere gambling or experiment or trial-and-error. There are well known processes in place such as hiring and firing a coach. These are well known processes. They're not gambling or experiments. Any football club that gambles with these processes is sure heading to utter ruin. Gambling belongs to the casinos and betting shops.
I most likely knew you would bring talks of the casino or bet houses that's why I put the dictionary meaning up there. The first meaning states that it means to take a risk expecting a positive income. Every coach being hired is expected to achieve the objectives set by the team. No one knows the future that is why they look for who they feel and have analyzed to perform those duties. If he performs to the satisfaction of the board he would be allowed to continue. He falls short and the process of termination begins. In other words taking a gamble or risk in this context means hiring a professional leader putting faith or hope in him to turn around or stabilize the fortune of the football club. E.g. lampard and tuchel Buying players is a gamble, Running businesses is a gamble as no one knows the future
Nuff said
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 10:20pm On May 06, 2021
Nice one Villareal!!

Unai Emry love affair with Europa league continues grin grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m):
Moving from the old guard, Gradually of course, piecemeal!

Some even think that a new coach with a significant number of young new players need only a couple of months to become world beaters, lol.
Such optimism.

Sometimes it takes 2 seasons or more, In fact a lot of times it takes 2 seasons and more.

We want to go through a rebuilding process and still be winning La Liga and contesting UCL finals consistently, lol.

That is why I have always opined that we as a fan base are SPOILT.

A lot of us who were screaming, "send all the oldies away" last season, all at once didn't know the implication, still don't know the implication.

It was only last season 2019/2020 that we failed to win a Major.


Even Roma, Liverpool and Bayern were more scandalous than this, Maybe it was Koeman's spirit in the bench.



My Conclusion;

Most people still do not understand what a rebuilding process is...

You want to rebuild and still be winning La Liga and contesting champions league finals consistently?

Well maybe because we have Messi. By the time he leaves maybe then we may understand what a rebuilding process Is!

Let us just be prepared to blame our coaches for eternity in the period we aim to build another formidable set up for the future.

As far as this issue goes, we need to tell ourselves the hard truth. No need for political correctness.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by NoFap123: 3:57am On May 07, 2021
FirstbornWds:
It's an obvious truth bro.


Pep, and Zidane were experiments at some point until they cemented a place to being classy managers. Barcelona and Madrid took a gamble with them and it paid off. Koeman, considering his previous run with club teams doesn't fit to be our manager but then, he's our coach after all and except seeking extraordinary happens, he's proven to spend another season with us.


So yes.... He's an experiment. A see-if Barcelona experiment.
Something that's obvious to any serious cule, grandfather JP will be defending. I won't be surprised if Baba is a Buharist. It's a specialty to defend the indefensible.
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