jpmoriarti:
Do you know what it means to say that a coach who has coached at the highest level for over 15 years is merely an experiment and a gamble? I do not have 15 years experience in my career but if someone tells me I am an experiment or a gamble, I will find it very disrespectful.

jpmoriarti:
Why don't you list his success?

NoFap123:


Something that's obvious to any serious cule, grandfather JP will be defending. I won't be surprised if Baba is a Buharist. It's a specialty to defend the indefensible.

jpmoriarti:
Koeman already won a copa del rey with Valencia before even Pep and Zidane started their coaching careers.

FirstbornWds:



You know what pains me most is that he ends up contracting himself after being busted and then, you see him cloaking.

NoFap123:


Hahaha, I am used to his cloaking. When he can't present logic, he uses emotions.

NoFap123:


The said coaches have won the UCL. Can the same be said of Koeman? The said coaches have won at least 5 trophies in a season. Can the same be said of Koeman? The said coaches at one point had their players win the best award in Europe and the world. Can the same be said of Koeman?

Managerial and trophy-wise, the said coaches are head and shoulder above Koeman. So tell me, what Koeman has done to disprove the "he is an experiment claim"? Please don't bring age into this. I take Sango beg you.

ddippset:
Moving from the old guard, Gradually of course, piecemeal!

Some even think that a new coach with a significant number of young new players need only a couple of months to become world beaters, lol.
Such optimism.

Sometimes it takes 2 seasons or more, In fact a lot of times it takes 2 seasons or more.

We want to go through a rebuilding process and still be winning La Liga and contesting UCL finals consistently, lol.

That is why I have always opined that we as a fan base are SPOILT.

A lot of us who were screaming, "send all the oldies away" last season, all at once didn't know the implication, still don't know the implication.

It was only last season 2019/2020 that we failed to win a Major.


Even Roma, Liverpool and Bayern were more scandalous than this, Maybe it was Koeman's spirit in the bench.



My Conclusion;

Most people still do not understand what a rebuilding process is...

You want to rebuild and still be winning La Liga and contesting champions league finals consistently?

Well maybe because we have Messi. By the time he leaves maybe then we may understand what a rebuilding process Is!

Let us just be prepared to blame our coaches for eternity in the period we aim to build another formidable set up for the future.

As far as this issue goes, we need to tell ourselves the hard truth. No need for political correctness.

FirstbornWds:




Koeman hasn't even won up to 5 trophies as a manager but JP wants us not to hit on him because he has had 15 years of coaching experience.



Need I need to remind him that Sam Allardyce has had more than that but tell me if Barcelona can ever consider him a potential coaching prospect.


Even Moe, with all of his experience and achievements, would never be an option because he's simply outdated and can not fit into a formidable trophy-winning team as before.


But present these facts to JP, he'll simply trash-talk them to say that shouldn't be dragged simply because they have more than 15 years coaching experience.



How does that actually affect a team like Barcelona?

FirstbornWds:



You know what pains me most is that he ends up contracting himself after being busted and then, you see him cloaking.

NoFap123:


The said coaches have won the UCL. Can the same be said of Koeman? The said coaches have won at least 5 trophies in a season. Can the same be said of Koeman? The said coaches at one point had their players win the best award in Europe and the world. Can the same be said of Koeman?

Managerial and trophy-wise, the said coaches are head and shoulder above Koeman. So tell me, what Koeman has done to disprove the "he is an experiment claim"? Please don't bring age into this. I take Sango beg you.

NoFap123:


Hahaha, I am used to his cloaking. When he can't present logic, he uses emotions.

Kilishihunter:

The Niccur has been missing since Madrid fell his hand after all his braggings on the Chelsea thread Seems he couldn't handle the pain

ddippset:
Most likely Melvyn...

You remember him right??

The open play/closed play guy.

FirstbornWds:




Koeman hasn't even won up to 5 trophies as a manager but JP wants us not to hit on him because he has had 15 years of coaching experience.



Need I need to remind him that Sam Allardyce has had more than that but tell me if Barcelona can ever consider him a potential coaching prospect.


Even Moe, with all of his experience and achievements, would never be an option because he's simply outdated and can not fit into a formidable trophy-winning team as before.


But present these facts to JP, he'll simply trash-talk them to say that shouldn't be dragged simply because they have more than 15 years coaching experience.



How does that actually affect a team like Barcelona?

jpmoriarti:
Not all managers will win the UCL.
Coaching in top European clubs and national teams is generally considered the highest level. It doesn't get better than that. Respect the hardwork and sacrifices that got them to that level. If you think it is easy, try getting a job in Europe in your chosen career.
This is all I have been saying from the beginning. You can criticize his inability to win the UCL but do not bastardize the process that brought him to that level. It is no mean feat. When GrammarNazi1 called him an experiment and a gamble, he bastardized years of hardwork put in by Koeman to get to highest level of coaching. This got me offended.

abduleez1:


LMFAO....it seems I saw this open play/close play ANALyst on Tuesdays Man City Vs PSG match. The guy I sat close with in viewing centre was just mouthing off saying Man City weren't good and their success based on luck. Saying that most of their goals were set pieces and not open play.
Na so me and another guy confuse. Shey set piece aside from penalty no be open play?
Guy just dey shout PSG useless, na PSG give City chance. When in real life Pep set his team up to mess with PSG players mentally with frustration and not necessarily coming out to play attacking football like their life depended on it.

Jodera:
Any lucky person can do this. Pep did it, zidane did it, lampard did it, pirlo did it.
The first two worked out, the 2nd two didn't/isn't working out. A club like barca won't appoint lampard cos he coached the "highest level" club in Europe.
I don't know why it's hard for you to get these guys points tbh

jpmoriarti:
I'm sure Koeman has attended lots of coaching trainings and coaching schools. Obtained his coaching licence from UEFA and FIFA. These are outstanding achievements on their own merit. These licences are not awarded based on experiments and gambling. They followed years of rigorous works. You have to respect that.

jpmoriarti:
I don't do that, guy. I present consistent argument and I defend it till I'm tired or I see a superior argument.

NoFap123:


There is a reason why MOU got a job with AS Roma almost immediately after he was ousted from his former job.

You want to know why?

Result and track records.

No one gives a heck how many trainings and schools you have attended. If they don't translate to positive results, all you have done is zilch, nada!

So JP, I ask, list out Koeman's results

NoFap123:


To be honest, there's nothing consistent about what you have been saying. You have just refused to face the truth.

devvy44:
From being tagged the next iniesta to becoming a constant bench-warmer...........right now he’s now a chef


Ladies and gentlemen let’s welcome the latest chef in Barcelona Chef Riqui Puig

pu7pl3:


The boy is literally wasting in catering

devvy44:


By the time koeman is done with their young guys next season, we will be see videos on their YouTube channel like:

-Tailoring with pedri
-Farming with illaix
-Plumbing with araujo
-Washing with dest

pu7pl3:




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abduleez1:

Lol, you dey craze.

The thing enter sha.

abduleez1:

Lol, you dey craze.

The thing enter sha.

devvy44:


By the time koeman is done with their young guys next season, we will be see videos on their YouTube channel like:

-Tailoring with pedri
-Farming with illaix
-Plumbing with araujo
-Washing with dest

Kilishihunter:

And a night of thousand laughs with Akpororo
The Stamford bridge edition was a hit