BassReeves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcPXOn651UE

I take it then you don't ever psych yourself up. Shame

Have you skipped having your injections? Else what the heck is the meaning of this?

I'll answer questions directly, when you begin to intelligently ask me the right question(s)

Stop asking me a wrong question.
Incarnation, think deeply about the word.

Again, reasoning with yourself or speaking to yourself is different from praying to yourself which is madness by the way Jeez! Have you ever prayed to yourself for healing? Have you ever prayed to yourself for wisdom? Have you prayed to yourself to be clothed in glory and power? I really thought you understood something this basic mehn...to mistake reasoning and speaking to yourself with praying to yourself? Hahahaha




Please give me a direct answer and stop hiding behind the word incarnate.

Is Jesus:
a) The Father
b) The Son
c) The Father and the Son.


I’m really pleased to hear your direct answer after your boastful insults

You really amuse me with this your difficult question!

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can answer that question directly, even the Pope, Kumuyi or Adeboye will be confused as TRINITY will blur their senses!

OkCornel:

I don’t pray to myself. That’s madness.
I really want to see if you have the understanding you boast of. Please answer this question directly.
Which of the following is Jesus?

a) The Father
b) The Son
c) The Father and the Son

Please answer the question directly by picking one of the three options.

MaxInDHouse:
You really amuse me with this your difficult question!

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can answer that question directly, even the Pope, Kumuyi or Adeboye will be confused as TRINITY will blur their senses!

The question is for the all knowing and wise Bassreeves. I’m patiently awaiting his direct answer while hiding behind the word incarnate.

What these dudes don’t understand is what the word “ONE” means.

But I’ll await his answer, let me see if he really understands as much as he boasts around.

OkCornel:
Please give me a direct answer [s]and stop hiding behind the word incarnate.[/s]

You're bent on using one lie to question, the mother of all truth (i.e. Incarnation) Smh.

OkCornel:
Is Jesus:
a) The Father
b) The Son
c) The Father and the Son.

I’m really pleased to hear your direct answer after your boastful insults

I very much love to see evidence of the alleged boastful insults and verify who drew blood first

MaxInDHouse:
You really amuse me with this your difficult question!

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can answer that question directly, even the Pope, Kumuyi or Adeboye will be confused as TRINITY will blur their senses!

For the record and public knowledge, I am no trinitarian and nothing more

OkCornel:
The question is for the all knowing and wise Bassreeves. I’m patiently awaiting his direct answer while hiding behind the word incarnate.

What these dudes don’t understand is what the word “ONE” means.

But I’ll await his answer, let me see if he really understands as much as he boasts around.

You are trying to use words that are unique in meaning to God, that don't have the same meaning when used for mortals like us.

BassReeves:
You're bent on using one lie to question, the mother of all truth (i.e. Incarnation) Smh.

I very much love to see evidence of the alleged boastful insults and verify who drew blood first

Oh wait, are you accusing me of insulting you first? Oh please go through our chat history and point out anything derogatory I said towards you prior to where you mentioned I had no legs to stand on hahaha.

Now please, stop running around my question and answer directly.

Is Jesus;

a) The Father?
b) The Son?
c) The Father and the Son?

Direct answer please. Thanks

BassReeves:
You're bent on using one lie to question, the mother of all truth (i.e. Incarnation) Smh.

I very much love to see evidence of the alleged boastful insults and verify who drew blood first

BassReeves:
Bible 101, Jesus Christ is God incarnate

You had no point to start with, talkless, any imaginary legs to stand on.
The religion of God is C O M P A S S I ON, compassion and E M P A T H Y, empathy. Period. That's the ONLY religion He is a member of.

It was at this point you left the topic altogether and went personal.

Now please prior to this, kindly show us where I addressed you in such manner rather than the topic of discussion.

Patiently waiting sir

OkCornel:
Oh wait, are you accusing me of insulting you first? Oh please go through our chat history and point out anything derogatory I said towards you prior to where you mentioned I had no legs to stand on hahaha.

So no legs to stand on is now insulting abi

OkCornel:
Now please, stop running around my question and answer directly.
Is Jesus;
a) The Father
b) The Son
c) The Father and the Son.
Direct answer please. Thanks

Jesus is all of the multiple choice answers

BassReeves:
So no legs to stand on is now insulting abi

Jesus is all of the multiple choice answers

Oh my, I guess it wasn’t an insult at all. Absolutely not...it was a praiseworthy compliment hmmm?

Leaving the topic aside to make it look as though I don’t know what I’m saying isn’t a boastful insult? If it’s not that...I don’t know what else that is. Anyways, no offence taken.


Lmao, Jesus is the Father and the Son? Now it’s clear you don’t understand these are separate entities in literal terms, yet they are “one”

Same principle of oneness applies in marriage where the husband and wife are ONE FLESH, but are literally two separate individuals.

That’s why I asked you and I find it funny you could say Jesus was praying to Himself when in reality this was a conversation between the Father and the Son who are separate entities

OkCornel:
It was at this point you left the topic altogether and went personal.

There isnt anything of the "going personal" sort, in reply to your "I still stand on my point," comment with matter of fact, "You had no point to start with, talkless, any imaginary legs to stand on." response

When to show your head in a battlefront, be prepared to your helmet shot at.

OkCornel:
Now please prior to this, kindly show us where I addressed you in such manner rather than the topic of discussion.

Patiently waiting sir

Grow a thicker skin mehn. Smh

1 Corinthians 11 v 3;

But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God

If Jesus is both the son and the Father, can someone explain how Jesus is the head of himself here?

Silence says a lot
Is it only I who noticed the SDA lady is silent? Silent is maturity. But unlike the JWs, they must choke it down our throat they are the best. I am not sure why I pay so much attention to them this time. I guess Max is the reason. I have prayed for him. He will open the veils in the eyes of others. I look forward to reading more about Ellen White. I just need to have those answers. If I find the answers ok, i will write here that i think SDA is different and not like JW. Let us hope the lady will do the needful on her thread or here.

Quote the scripture rightly
Am I the only one who has noticed JW must quite verses here. But everything they quote is not related to the subject. They always say they want to prove and they are sure they are the best and right, but has any verse these guys posted here related to the post they responded to? Please, check the scriptures and try to see if they make sense everytime. That is to tell you that it L'a Cram L'a Pour dem dey do.

It is well!

BassReeves:
There isnt anything of the "going personal" sort, in reply to your "I still stand on my point," comment with matter of fact, "You had no point to start with, talkless, any imaginary legs to stand on." response

When to show your head in a battlefront, be prepared to your helmet shot at.

Grow a thicker skin mehn. Smh

Oh now I have to prepare my helmet to get shot at and grow a thicker skin while you find it difficult to admit you left the topic of discussion to go personal there?

Just admit what you did rather than hiding behind words. Anyways, your apologies doesn’t mean anything to me and I’m not seeking anything. Just admit what you did and stop denying. Man up mehn.


Back to the topic of discussion.

OkCornel:
Oh my, I guess it wasn’t an insult at all. Absolutely not...it was a praiseworthy compliment hmmm?

Delusion of grandeur. Smh

OkCornel:
Leaving the topic aside to make it look as though I don’t know what I’m saying isn’t a boastful insult? If it’s not that...I don’t know what else that is. Anyways, no offence taken.

About time you admit no offence was given. Smh

OkCornel:
Lmao, Jesus is the Father and the Son?

Jesus is I AM ..., same as God is I AM

OkCornel:
Now it’s clear you don’t understand these are separate entities in literal terms, yet they are “one”

Duh, of course, they are separate entities in literal terms, yet they are “one” albeit Jesus is the monogenous Son of God aka begotten, unique, one of a kind, never another like the kind

OkCornel:
Same principle of oneness applies in marriage where the husband and wife are ONE FLESH, but are literally two separate individuals.

That’s why I asked you and I find it funny you could say Jesus was praying to Himself when in reality this was a conversation between the Father and the Son who are separate entities

Let me ask you a few one two or three easy, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions.
1. Are you able, capable to be in two places at the the same time, as in meaning, be on earth physically and at the same time spiritually be in heaven?
2. Are you able, capable to project out of yourself and send yourself on an errand to do something, while still existing after projecting yourself out?

Dont exert yourself, just give me binary, Yes or No answers to the two questions please

OkCornel:
Oh now I have to prepare my helmet to get shot at and grow a thicker skin while you find it difficult to admit you left the topic of discussion to go personal there?

You're clutching at air son

OkCornel:
Just admit what you did rather than hiding behind words. Anyways, your apologies doesn’t mean anything to me and I’m not seeking anything. Just admit what you did and stop denying. Man up mehn.

I never apologised, quit deluding yourself

OkCornel:
Back to the topic of discussion.

You should have thought about that before going on a tangent. Mtcheew. KMFT.

BassReeves:
Delusion of grandeur. Smh

About time you admit no offence was given. Smh

Jesus is I AM ..., same as God is I AM

Duh, of course, they are separate entities in literal terms, yet they are “one” albeit Jesus is the monogenous Son of God aka begotten, unique, one of a kind, never another like the kind

Let me ask you a few one two or three easy, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions.
1. Are you able, capable to be in two places at the the same time, as in meaning, be on earth physically and at the same time spiritually be in heaven?
2. Are you able, capable to project out of yourself and send yourself on an errand to do something, while still existing after projecting yourself out?

Dont exert yourself, just give me binary, Yes or No answers to the two questions please

I guess delusion of grandeur also isn’t an insult where you come from...but oh well.

The Father is separate from the Son period.

And to your answers, all of the above is no.

Please answer my question on 1st Corinthians 11 v 3.

How can you be uncreated and yet be the FIRST BORN of all creation at the same time?

The last time I checked, the Father precedes and exists before the Son comes into being.

1 John 5 v 7;
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


Literally 3 separate entities, yet they are one team. One mind.

Same way husband and wife are one flesh. Two literally separate entities but symbolically one flesh.

Too straightforward not to miss

OkCornel:
I guess delusion of grandeur also isn’t an insult where you come from...but oh well.

Smh

OkCornel:
The Father is separate from the Son period.

And to your answers, all of the above is no.

Please answer my question on 1st Corinthians 11 v 3.

How can you be uncreated and yet be the FIRST BORN of all creation at the same time?

The last time I checked, the Father precedes and exists before the Son comes into being.

Give your answers to the two questions above in order to have a sense, meaning and understanding of 1 Corinthians 11:3, you're trying to prooftext with

BassReeves:
You're clutching at air son

I never apologised, quit deluding yourself

You should have thought about that before going on a tangent. Mtcheew. KMFT.

I never asked for your apology. It has no worth whatsoever to me.

At least it’s obvious and undeniable now for all to discern your attitude with your words on this thread

BassReeves:
Smh

Give your answers to the two questions above in order to have a sense, meaning and understanding of 1 Corinthians 11:3, you're trying to prooftext with

Did you miss my answer when I said no to all of the above? Did you take your time to read my response? Or you’re replying hastily

OkCornel:
Did you miss my answer when I said no to all of the above? Did you take your time to read my response? Or you’re replying hastily

Look son, come back here in the afternoon, you've already held me back enough not to step out. I am already running late, so return back here circa 2-3 pm, to skin all this to the bones. AFK.

BassReeves:
Look son, come back here in the afternoon, you've already held me back enough not to step out. I am already running late, so return back here circa 2-3 pm, to skin all this to the bones. AFK.

No probs boss. Later today then.

Shalom

@MaxInDHouse

Does Jehovah witness have a university in Nigeria? Or secondary school? I'm curious.

BassReeves:
... of course, they are separate entities in literal terms, yet they are “one” albeit Jesus is the monogenous Son of God aka begotten, unique, one of a kind, never another like the kind

Let me ask you a few one two or three easy, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions.
1. Are you able, capable to be in two places at the the same time, as in meaning, be on earth physically and at the same time spiritually be in heaven?
2. Are you able, capable to project out of yourself and send yourself on an errand to do something, while still existing after projecting yourself out?

... give me binary, Yes or No answers to the two questions please

OkCornel:
The Father is separate from the Son period.

Of course, the Father is separate from the Son period. Just as, ice water and separate from steam/vapour water, period. The Father and Son is God, just as, ice and steam, vapour is water.

OkCornel:
And to your answers, all of the above is no.

Thank you for making the effort. Cheers. Bottoms up to a fresh lot of five new questions, please waiting for you esteemed responses. Thanks

1. So would I be right in saying that you're putting limitations on God?
2. Am I right in saying you believe that it is impossible for God to simultaneously exist in two different places and in two different form?
3. Are I right, in saying you believe that God is unable to project Himself outward from within the Godhead on to earth?
4. Why was it necessary, at all that God should sacrifice Himself for mankind?
5. Why wasn't an alternative redemption etc available and ready for use?

OkCornel:
Please answer my question on 1st Corinthians 11 v 3.

Look at my last comment below, to see the answer to your 'If Jesus is both the son and the Father, can someone explain how Jesus is the head of himself here?"

OkCornel:
How can you be uncreated and yet be the FIRST BORN of all creation at the same time?

Are you trying to advance that Jesus is not God?

OkCornel:
The last time I checked, the Father precedes and exists before the Son comes into being.

John 1:14
'So the Word became human and made His home among us.
He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness.
And we have seen his glory, the glory of the Father’s one and only Son'

God, first, is God, before becoming God, The Father and God, the Son.

PeaceJoyLove:
@MaxInDHouse

Does Jehovah witness have a university in Nigeria? Or secondary school? I'm curious.

JW don't really value tertiary education.

BassReeves:
JW don't really value tertiary education.

Hmmm! Thanks for the response. You quoted the service of man to widows, old people, and orphans. What do JWs do in this area? I am trying to get it cos these people have separated themselves seriously. Do they do any service to humanity?

PeaceJoyLove:

Hmmm! Thanks for the response. You quoted the service of man to widows, old people, and orphans. What do JWs do in this area? I am trying to get it cos these people have separated themselves seriously. Do they do any service to humanity?

Jehovah’s Witnesses work what is good towards all sorts of men but we focus more on those in the spiritual Ark. Galatians 6:10

Talking about widows, orphans and older ones, God’s Word said the congregation should care only for the ones amongst us(1Timothy 5:3) as it is pleasing to our God. James 1:27

And usually after a disaster strikes in any country worldwide, Jehovah’s Witnesses are usually the first to rush to the scene to inquire about the welfare of our brothers and sisters and provide the needed comfort and relief(food,clothing,shelter) for them. 2Corinthians 1:3,4
Both Witnesses and non-Witnesses benefit from this relief ministry because even the first century Christians did as Jehovah’s Witnesses do today(Acts 11:27-30, 2Corinthians 8:1-4) the only thing is we are unaffiliated with any governmental/non-governmental agency.
James 4:4

PeaceJoyLove:
Hmmm! Thanks for the response. You quoted the service of man to widows, old people, and orphans. What do JWs do in this area? I am trying to get it cos these people have separated themselves seriously. Do they do any service to humanity?

Julẹ matuwo, this mahogany table you're shaking

BassReeves:
JW don't really value tertiary education.

JWs value tertiary education & we place greater emphasis on acquisition of viable, marketable vocational skills.
Which tertiary institution you go enter, where you no go see JWs ?

Of far greater value to us,JWs is the knowledge that impacts everlasting life, Deuteronomy 6:6-9, Joshua 1:7-9 & John 17:3.

Shalom.

BassReeves:


Of course, the Father is separate from the Son period. Just as, ice water and separate from steam/vapour water, period. The Father and Son is God, just as, ice and steam, vapour is water.

Thank you for making the effort. Cheers. Bottoms up to a fresh lot of five new questions, please waiting for you esteemed responses. Thanks

1. So would I be right in saying that you're putting limitations on God?
2. Am I right in saying you believe that it is impossible for God to simultaneously exist in two different places and in two different form?
3. Are I right, in saying you believe that God is unable to project Himself outward from within the Godhead on to earth?
4. Why was it necessary, at all that God should sacrifice Himself for mankind?
5. Why wasn't an alternative redemption etc available and ready for use?

Look at my last comment below, to see the answer to your 'If Jesus is both the son and the Father, can someone explain how Jesus is the head of himself here?"

Are you trying to advance that Jesus is not God?

John 1:14
'So the Word became human and made His home among us.
He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness.
And we have seen his glory, the glory of the Father’s one and only Son'

God, first, is God, before becoming God, The Father and God, the Son.

Nope, I’m not putting any limitations on God. Absolutely not.

God the Father (the uncreated one) is not the Son (the first born of all creation)

Basic principle, very basic. You cannot be uncreated and be the first born of all creation at the same time. A father and a Son are two literally separate entities.

The last time I checked. The Son prayed to the Father. The Son was exalted, glorified and is on the right hand side of the Father. The Son is not the Father. You don’t understand what “ONE” means.

Please explain 1 Corinthians 11 v 3;

But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God

Dear sir, are you trying to tell us Christ (the Son of God) is the head of himself?

It clearly tells us the head of Christ (son of God) is God (the Father)

PeaceJoyLove:

Hmmm! Thanks for the response. You quoted the service of man to widows, old people, and orphans. What do JWs do in this area? I am trying to get it cos these people have separated themselves seriously. Do they do any service to humanity?

Jesus commanded preaching commission is the greatest service to humanity, because it's a means on the path of salvation. Matt24:14 & Acts 20:20-21.

JWs also render help to people in need- orphans,widows etc.
James 1:27 ,Galatians 6:10 & Matthew 6:1-4 are our watchword.

JWs will not seek media attention of CNN, BBC or NTA to broadcast our humanitarian deeds unlike the popular trend in Christendom.
Matthew 6:1-4, JWs don't solicit for praise of men,our reward comes from Jehovah God.

OkCornel:


Nope, I’m not putting any limitations on God. Absolutely not.

God the Father (the uncreated one) is not the Son (the first born of all creation)

Basic principle, very basic. You cannot be uncreated and be the first born of all creation at the same time. A father and a Son are two literally separate entities.

The last time I checked. The Son prayed to the Father. The Son was exalted, glorified and is on the right hand side of the Father. The Son is not the Father. You don’t understand what “ONE” means.

Please explain 1 Corinthians 11 v 3;

But I want you to realize that the [b]head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God
[/b]
Dear sir, are you trying to tell us Christ (the Son of God) is the head of himself?

It clearly tells us the head of Christ (son of God) is God (the Father)

Agreed.
Very Scriptural & fantastic.