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Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Rissamenti(op):
mrvitalis:
Do u know that imo people willingly contributed to ey after being taxed to build imo airport ?

U are not igbo would never be so u don't understand ...we are used to contributing to build things , market , roads , churches everything ...go to ohafia in abia all the roads schools everything are built by age grade

30% tax to build out dream country is something we igbos we do gladly

Why is it paining u none igbos even
I don't care about Igbos. This thread is about all Nigerian states. Voluntary contribution for a one-off project like an airport or church is different from taxing the Imo state masses 70 billion naira a month.

Afterall, Nigerian break up was meant to improve their lives, not make life 10 times harder.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 8:28am On Jun 06, 2021
Rissamenti:
I don't care about Igbos. This thread is about all Nigerian states. Voluntary contribution for a one off project like an airport is different from taxing the Imo state masses 70 billion naira a month.
How is this your business Americans pay over 30% in tax every year ... paying tax is way cheaper than providing for your self

Better road means less car maintenance , free quality schools means less education expenses for your kids , quality government hospitals means cheaper health care , government expenditure increase means more job creation means more people buy from u ...it's a ripple effect even

It's cheaper to pay 60% as tax and get basic amenities than keeping 100% n providing for yourself

If we all pay 30% of what we use to repair cars as car tax it would save us 80% of car repair because bad road would be fixed n bad road are responsible for 80% of car faults

U are socialist in nature as a Yoruba don't try to understand capitalist igbos
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Kinematics: 8:30am On Jun 06, 2021
Rissamenti:
Do you have any idea how much social unrest, riots, and mayhem you will generate in Imo state by taxing the people such a huge amount of money each month?

I'm sure if you told them, they would insist on One Nigeria instead.
Allow the dude to be clowning. Imo that has the highest unemployment rate in the country want to be taxing 30%.....

Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Rissamenti(op): 8:31am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
How is this your business Americans pay over 30% in tax every year ... paying tax is way cheaper than providing for your self

Better road means less car maintenance , free quality schools means less education expenses for your kids , quality government hospitals means cheaper health care , government expenditure increase means more job creation means more people buy from u ...it's a ripple effect even

It's cheaper to pay 60% as tax and get basic amenities than keeping 100% n providing for yourself

If we all pay 30% of what we use to repair cars as car tax it would save us 80% of car repair because bad road would be fixed n bad road are responsible for 80% of car faults

U are socialist in nature as a Yoruba don't try to understand capitalist igbos
It is easy to blow grammar online.

See ordinary fuel subsidy removal that causes riots. But no. You can just wake up and tax Imo people 70 billion a month with no problem.

Like I said, do let them know this plan of yours before they sign up for Nigeria's break up.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by SlayerForever: 8:32am On Jun 06, 2021
My state Anambra will survive.


However, that a state will survive depends on the administrators. If there are top administrators at the helm of affairs nearly every state will survive. But using the current governors on seat to judge...hmm not many states will survive.

Most North Eastern/Western states won't. Most Middlebelt won't (because of bad administrators).

South West states of Ekiti/Osun unlikely to.

South East states of Abia/Enugu unlikely to.

South South state of Cross River.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Rissamenti(op): 8:34am On Jun 06, 2021
SlayerForever:
My state Anambra will survive.


However, that a state will survive depends on the administrators. If there are top administrators at the helm of affairs nearly every state will survive. But using the current governors on seat to judge...hmm not many states will survive.

Most North Eastern/Western states won't. Most Middlebelt won't (because of bad administrators).

South West states of Ekiti/Osun unlikely to.

South East states of Abia/Enugu unlikely to.

South South state of Cross River.
How will your state survive?

How will you replace the monthly allocation from Abuja?

Please give us specifics.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 8:35am On Jun 06, 2021
Rissamenti:
It is easy to blow grammar.

See ordinary fuel subsidy removal that causes riots. But no. You can just wake up and tax IMO people 70 billion a month with no problem.
Nigerians are not igbos oga don't compare the two

For our goal to have a developed nation we can sacrifice alot because of patriotism

During covid did you hear igbos complain of hunger or Rob people ?

The rich easily subsidized for the poor ...my compound alone got over 10 bags of rice we we have people at home cause we didn't need it ..not to talk of the foods my family donated no body in my village lacked food
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by SlayerForever: 8:35am On Jun 06, 2021
Rissamenti:
How will your state survive?

How will you replace the monthly allocation from Abuja?
I should go into all that details?
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Kinematics: 8:36am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
LMAO u could not be more wrong ....

Why don't u tell us how your state would survive
My state is already generating almost 100% of its federal allocation in IGR. My state is second in IGR only to Lagos even while still in Nigeria. So imagine if made a country and looking at its small indigenous population with natural wealth, what an eldorado it will be.

Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 8:38am On Jun 06, 2021
Kinematics:
My state is already generating almost 100% of its federal allocation in IGR. My state is second in IGR only to Lagos even while still in Nigeria. So imagine if made a country and looking at its small indigenous population with natural wealth, what an eldorado it will be.

Why are u not fighting for the freedom then
Fight for your Independence why are u scared
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by vanunu: 8:40am On Jun 06, 2021
Amotolongbo:
Initially, it will be hard.
We go dey alright last last
My state is Imo, we have a the biggest gas reserve in Nigeria,
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Rissamenti(op): 8:43am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
Nigerians are not igbos oga don't compare the two

For our goal to have a developed nation we can sacrifice alot because of patriotism

During covid did you hear igbos complain of hunger or Rob people ?

The rich easily subsidized for the poor ...my compound alone got over 10 bags of rice we we have people at home cause we didn't need it ..not to talk of the foods my family donated no body in my village lacked food
Dude, voluntary contribution is DIFFERENT from taxation.

If the public oppose such a huge tax increase, which they will, what will your new tribal republic govt do?

Suppress them?

Shoot them?

The people hate big taxation.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Kinematics: 8:44am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
Why are u not fighting for the freedom then
Fight for your Independence why are u scared
I must not follow the tactics of the ibo man to achieve what I want. I'm not a noise maker or an empty chest beater. I strike when I want without ranting everyday online.

Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Ikology(m): 8:46am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
There is no state in Nigeria that won't survive

We igbos are ready to pay 30% tax to our biafra to get her going

We can tax beer , hotels , car owners , every shops ...that's where u would know human resources >>>>>> natural resources

Taxing all the hotels in owerri 20% which we would gladly pay in biafra ...can generate over 15 billion a month that's room alone ....clubs , drinks and food tax can generate another 10 billion , car road tax can generate 10 billion ...not to talk about business tax we would gladly pay that's another 10 billion .

Imo can easily generate 50 to 70 billion a month from her people

That's over what we get from abuja in a single month

Our gas and oil have not been included ooh
I think you need to understand there will be limited money in circulation. Hence most of these businesses you listed for taxation might be operating at a loss.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 8:46am On Jun 06, 2021
Kinematics:
I must not follow the tactics of the ibo man to achieve what I want. I'm not a noise maker or an empty chest beater. I strike when I want without ranting everyday online.

Do u want your own country yes or no
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 8:49am On Jun 06, 2021
Rissamenti:
Dude, voluntary contribution is DIFFERENT from taxation.

If the public oppose such a huge tax increase, which they will, what will your new tribal republic govt do?

Suppress them?

Shoot them?

The people hate big taxation.
No igbo man would refuse to pay tax that's way cheaper than providing for yourself

We all want biafra we know we would be taxed more we know we would have to sacrifice

I'm telling u as igbo relax

Even if we get 15% tax that's still around 1 billion dollars a year revenue so what's your issue
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Kinematics: 8:49am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
Do u want your own country yes or no
Is Nigeria a country a sane human being would wish to belong to? However note that Biafra is not an option.
I rather die a Nigerian than a biafran.

God bless Rivers State!
God bless the Niger Delta!!
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 8:53am On Jun 06, 2021
Ikology:
I think you need to understand there will be limited money in circulation. Hence most of these businesses you listed for taxation might be operating at a loss.
Igbos economy is 98% insolated from the Nigerian economy ...igbos run our economy so how would less money be in circulation?

Igbos would sale houses and business outside igbos land and return home ...so more money would be in circulation

If Nigeria divide igbos land is the only region that won't fall into recession because igbos own everything in igbo land instead everything would grow

Housing market , schools enrollment , investment , everything ... unlike other region that would shrink because igbos are pulling out

Lagos housing market would crash by 30% minimum banks would fail to collect loan .. recession straight
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Nobody: 8:53am On Jun 06, 2021
Rissamenti:
It takes YEARS and big money investments to develop those natural resources to commercially exportable levels. You don't just snap your fingers and start exporting gas, or gold, or iron ore in large quantities.

Plus today, no nation develops by selling off raw materials. Not enough money in it. You must manufacture. The question is, who will buy manufactured goods from new market entrants like you?

How will you compete with China for market?

You will be stranded, just like similar small countries like Sierra Leone, Liberia etc.
You underestimate the resolve of people, clearly.

No nation started off being buoyant. The citizens worked hard to build and maintain their economy.

The first duty of any new nation is to ensure that its citizens are well fed, well housed, well clothed and well guarded.

Next is to increase production and conversion of raw materials to finished goods.

Finished goods will first find patronage among the citizens before exportation. That's how it happens worldwide. So you can see that the earlier we get our nation and start production, the better for us.

Next, you forgot IT. Technology today is the largest emerging market.

I am quite confident that with the right environment, my region will be a continental and world player when it comes to technological development.

As it is, we are leading in the West African region.

When new nations come out of a defunct Nigeria, the international community will definitely look at these nations and make overtures of alliances and friendship with the ones they feel will be beneficial to their own countries.

There will be trade talks among many other agreements.

#YorubaNationNow
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 8:54am On Jun 06, 2021
Kinematics:
Is Nigeria a country a sane human being would wish to belong to? However note that Biafra is not an option.
I rather die a Nigerian than a biafran.

God bless Rivers State!
God bless the Niger Delta!!
No body wants u in biafra thank u

We just want our igbo brothers that accept they are igbos ... ikwerre is your send away gift deal with them the way u did in the old rivers State
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Kinematics: 8:59am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
[s]No body wants u in biafra thank u

We just want our igbo brothers that accept they are igbos ... ikwerre is your send away gift deal with them the way u did in the old rivers State[/s]
Your want, but no regards for what others want. It's all about you grin grin grin

Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Kinematics: 9:00am On Jun 06, 2021
OsuAmaka:
Where is the data for this?. ibos have started spreading another round of lies.

-Osu amaka
Those people have perfected the art of lying.

Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by mrvitalis(m): 9:00am On Jun 06, 2021
Kinematics:
Your want, but no regards for what others want. It's all about you grin grin grin
Do u understand English ...if u are actually from rivers State name your tribe
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Kinematics: 9:07am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
[s]Do u understand English ...if u are actually from rivers State name your tribe[/s]
I owe you nothing to be telling you my tribe. Only you said we should deal with the Ikwerres the way we want just like in old Rivers, only you is asking my tribe again. Ibo man I thought you guys always claim to know it all, continue assuming rubbish and stop asking me nonsense question.

Oh so you don't know my tribe yet you are telling me to deal with the Ikwerres the way I want just like in old Rivers State?
I know next you'll tell me my ancestotrs are ibos grin grin grin

And no I don't understand English. Only you understand, afterall who am I where a learned ibo man is grin grin

Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by WhatCanIsay(m): 9:21am On Jun 06, 2021
Rissamenti:
Initially could be up to 10 years to get on your feet. Millions of people would have perished in that time. undecided
If you are a bit intelligent, your question should be how would Abuja survive. Talk about your state, that's if deception will allow you to own up to your state of origin.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by engrchykae(m): 9:47am On Jun 06, 2021
What about the survival of the nigerdelta where pollution of land and water is rampart?
What about survival of nigerdelta after oil?
Anyway I blame the naive nigerdelta who are more interested in pipeline security contracts.
Nigerdelta will be the biggest loser of one Nigeria followed by the Yoruba.
Nigeria serve the Igbo and north.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by SlayerForever: 10:08am On Jun 06, 2021
mrvitalis:
Why are u not fighting for the freedom then
Fight for your Independence why are u scared
They are supremely daft that is why. They are so daft they can't trust themselves to do things right. And you can't blame them, the record of the state is hellish, despite the eldorado the thing called it. That's why!
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by SlayerForever: 10:11am On Jun 06, 2021
[s]
Kinematics:
I must not follow the tactics of the ibo man to achieve what I want. I'm not a noise maker or an empty chest beater. I strike when I want without ranting everyday online.

[/s]



Quite expectedly you had no intelligent reply. Cretinous black man with daft thinking. Can't do nothing right. Can't demand your rights. Can't fight for your own country. Nothing. Just cretin behavior and trolling online. In summary, good for nothing.

I spit on you.
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Whoube99(f): 10:47am On Jun 06, 2021
Where will Abuja get her money fromhuh
Abuja money is from Niger Delta Oilhuh
If Nigeria part ways, every region go answer their papa name asap
Re: If Nigeria Breaks, Can Your State Survive Without Monthly Allocation From Abuja? by Naughtysex: 11:23am On Jun 06, 2021
The question should have been "can ABUJA survive without milking from other state"?
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