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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:06pm On Jun 15, 2021
manshot:


Think of it this way. Just because you were an interpreter for the US means you derseve asylum automatically?I dont think so. The interpreters knew what they were signing up for. And also they could even be killed while even now that the US hasnt left so it is not a matter of the US leaving is why they are still alive

However they were paid for their services. Interpreting for the US in a war agaiant the taliban. And moreso,they should even be in their hundreds. They should also go through the normal process of asylum seeking if they have a genuine case and not giving them an added advantage just because they worked for the US Military because they never worked for free..They were paid and therein comes the hazards with it too

I beg to disagree,America says it is a nation for human rights and says it is the shinning beacon on a hill.

Do you know if asylum is part of what they agreed to in the deal they had.Even the troops welcome the idea of evacuating these people.

I see no reason why they shouldn't be assisted when they did same for America.Why should America abandon such an ally if they do so now they will never be taken seriously again.

They should be evacuated because they were paid doesn't mean they should die.What was America doing in their country to begin with?since they didn't win the war they after these interpreters have risked their lives for them and the Taliban is still not annihilated the least America can do is to help these people out.

Some people are given added advantage when it comes to seeking asylum for different reasons theirs should in no way be different.I am not even talking about an asylum because that process is slow people are calling for an evacuation to Guam temporarily because once those troops leave they will be haunted and I don't think in 2021 Biden will want that on him.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 11:23pm On Jun 15, 2021
manshot:


Think of it this way. Just because you were an interpreter for the US means you derseve asylum automatically?I dont think so. The interpreters knew what they were signing up for. And also they could even be killed while even now that the US hasnt left so it is not a matter of the US leaving is why they are still alive

However they were paid for their services. Interpreting for the US in a war agaiant the taliban. And moreso,they should even be in their hundreds. They should also go through the normal process of asylum seeking if they have a genuine case and not giving them an added advantage just because they worked for the US Military because they never worked for free..They were paid and therein comes the hazards with it too

My small take

It's tricky, abandoning them might send a wrong signal, paid or not they worked for USA interests things like that are enough to give them state protection, if USA can't get them asylum, they could find them a place along their allies territories, Taliban are already waiting to hunt them down

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:14am On Jun 16, 2021
sanpipita:


It's tricky, abandoning them might send a wrong signal, paid or not they worked for USA interests things like that are enough to give them state protection, if USA can't get them asylum, they could find them a place along their allies territories, Taliban are already waiting to hunt them down

Gbam

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 12:14am On Jun 16, 2021
sanpipita:


It's tricky, abandoning them might send a wrong signal, paid or not they worked for USA interests things like that are enough to give them state protection, if USA can't get them asylum, they could find them a place along their allies territories, Taliban are already waiting to hunt them down
I support you whole heartedly. This things have a way of working themselves out and I sincerely believe President Biden won't leave those translators and their families hanging knowing that the Taliban will hunt them down. There will be so much pressure from the Democrats in Congress too and eventually President Biden will have to give them political asylum.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:32am On Jun 16, 2021
Hmm.

Abott didn't say if this also barred Texas from receiving federal funding and if in the future Texas experiences an emergency they would never go begging for federal assistance.

Texas has enough money they don't need federal funding for anything including emergencies why hasn't Abott made that known yet afterall they have money for the former guy's border wall grin but they cannot fix their grid grin


This governor is a joke the annoying thing is that he will get re-elected next year.They are trying to deflect from their incompetence

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:35am On Jun 16, 2021
21 GQP's voted against awarding a congressional medal to Capitol police officers grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 12:40am On Jun 16, 2021
AmazonTopaz:


Biden's foreign policy is wack.

They said human rights will be the center if their foreign policy but they kept shut when Israel did what it did(Not supporting Hamas) now they are not valuing and protecting the lives of those interpreters some may have even been denied visas already.

They should just be temporarily evacuated to Guam as many are suggesting he shouldn't be clueless or else even democrats themselves won't give him a pass on this issue.

A lot of Americans are raising awareness on this issue he has to act fast now.

I just tire.. Biden should be more assertive and bold in his foreign policies not only when it involves lgbt people. Imagine if these people were lgbt folks, they would have moved them out of afghanistan since months ago. I'm still looking though, i have a feeling Biden will reverse his stance on evacuating foreign nationals.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 12:46am On Jun 16, 2021
wirinet:


It's because of the current anti immigration mood in the US. Republicans have so demonized immigrants and immigration so much that it has become a political weapon. Even genuine refugees are disliked by the US public.
Biden and the democrats are being very cautious of issues that has to do with immigration.

Well the sad part of US politics is that Biden will never be the 100% antithesis of trump, coz even some of the career bureaucrats in his cabinets are going to slow things down for him, and the trump left overs might do immense damage. The hope is that there's some republicans and democrats in congress that supports the removal of these translators from afghanistan, and these members are former soldiers who served in iraq and afghanistan. If Biden really wants to change the US drastically away from how criminal trump left it, he has to be very bold and cut all these office tapes.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 12:48am On Jun 16, 2021
PrideofLincoln2:
I support you whole heartedly. This things have a way of working themselves out and I sincerely believe President Biden won't leave those translators and their families hanging knowing that the Taliban will hunt them down. There will be so much pressure from the Democrats in Congress too and eventually President Biden will have to give them political asylum.

I have a feeling Biden will do something for them, but if this takes a month later and nothing is done, i will be very disappointed. And another afghanistan Crisis will be just around the corner.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 1:00am On Jun 16, 2021
Nobody is left out a good Trumpanzee conspiracy, not even Italy

Surprised Basilico did not mention this one before

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 1:33am On Jun 16, 2021
EnlightenedUFO:


I have a feeling Biden will do something for them, but if this takes a month later and nothing is done, i will be very disappointed. And another afghanistan Crisis will be just around the corner.
He will. The pressure is mounting on Biden too. Those people are very useful to the US troops during the Afghanistan debacle the same way the Iraqi translators were useful to the American troops. Most Iraqis that helped American troops then were given political asylum with their families. I don't think President Biden will leave these translators behind for them to get butchered by the Talibans.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 1:36am On Jun 16, 2021
Ibime:
Nobody is left out a good Trumpanzee conspiracy, not even Italy

Surprised Basilico did not mention this one before
The crazy old bigot celebrated his 75th Birthday yesterday and no one noticed except those Nazis and the deplorables that kisses his ass. He's incosequential now that he only crashes wedding parties at his Mara a Lago estate. Indictment is waiting for him and his mafioso sons courtesy of Mr Cyrus Vance, the District Attorney of Borough of Manhattan.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 1:40am On Jun 16, 2021
The New York Times is now reporting that the District Attorney of Manhattan now has the tax returns of Allen Weisselberg, the CFO of Trump's Organization. Someone is going to be snitching like a bird sooner or later. Like we say in Uptown, the plot thickens.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 2:32am On Jun 16, 2021
AmazonTopaz:
21 GQP's voted against awarding a congressional medal to Capitol police officers grin grin
I thought they always shouted "back the blues and often waved blue lives matters flags" grin
fucktards.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays1: 2:36am On Jun 16, 2021
Ibime:
Nobody is left out a good Trumpanzee conspiracy, not even Italy

Surprised Basilico did not mention this one before
It was Venezuela communist, China bamboos, and election servers in Germany. I never knew Italian Satellites were thrown in the mix too.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln2: 3:38am On Jun 16, 2021
Tdotbluejays1:

It was Venezuela communist, China bamboos, and election servers in Germany. I never knew Italian Satellites were thrown in the mix too.
Buhari helped Biden rigged it too by sending his Fulani herdsmen to the US Embassy in Abuja to vote for Biden.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 6:28am On Jun 16, 2021
PrideofLincoln2:
Die because of a truck with the Engine light on. My donkey that I ride doesn't even show its engine light because we don't roll like that in my village near Lagos. We take utmost care of our donkeys.

grin this Oldman no go kill me for laugh. You are one of the reasons I come here.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 6:31am On Jun 16, 2021
Goodvibes007:

Just pointing out your hypocrisy and that of the other dingbats on here LOL.

I don't think there is any hypocrisy there. I almost always don't engage the guy, he speaks bad of me or doxxed me because I am against him. I hardly even notice or speak of the guy. So allow me to ignore him in peace. Let me talk about people who claim to be kings of morality who tried to dox me out of nowhere.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 6:41am On Jun 16, 2021
Palestinians and jew haters all over will soon realise the guy they wanted out was more lenient to Hamas and Palestinians than the new guy. When it comes to the west Bank, he wants it all. He clearly does not support giving land to Palestinians.

Hamas has started their attacks again on insrael and they have been met with airstrikes

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:03am On Jun 16, 2021
GhostWisperer:
[s]allow me the pleasure to quote you twice!!! grin

The same "run of the mill inane gibberish you had seen in Nairaland on different formats"? Really?

This my gibberish caused you to open 4 different emails, and 4 different Nairaland accounts by 2am midnight just to react to this gibberish? grin grin grin

You must have been haemorrhaging that night! grin
Your heart rate must be doing 450 beat per minute grin
And your pulse must be fluctuating near lethal levels cool
Fake ass emo-bitch.

If you be girl na fake boys and yahoo imps go dey f.cuk you like wetin... grin

Organic idiot!!![/s]
#yawns

Boring! Take it outta this thread I dare you. I will show you how savage, original and unyielding you're not cry baby. You can dance like a headless chicken till you drop on this thread for all I care, I'm waiting for you to do it outside. Your tripe doesn't faze me, I'm only constrained by my own declarations and that is your saving grace. This will be my last response to you on this thread, I have indulged you enough to tempt you to bite my bait, you doggedly refuse to so I'm going to leave you to your cowardice but hey, don't forget to award yourself a victory and get your fan kokoarsehole to hand it over to you in both of your self validating emotional support idiots club. Like I said earlier, it is the sum of your worth

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:06am On Jun 16, 2021
PrideofLincoln2:
The New York Times is now reporting that the District Attorney of Manhattan now has the tax returns of Allen Weisselberg, the CFO of Trump's Organization. Someone is going to be snitching like a bird sooner or later. Like we say in Uptown, the plot thickens.
justice takes too long aswear, but hopefully the results will be worth the wait

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:12am On Jun 16, 2021
AmazonTopaz:
I have no serious issue with the Biden administration but I feel when it comes to foreign issues they are not getting it right.

I am not referring to America's relationship with it's allies I am referring to how it is handling Afghan interpreters who are currently seeking asylum..

Biden can just evacuate these people who have risked their lives and could be haunted by the Taliban once troops leave.

In 1975 Biden was against evacuating Vietnamese interpreters I hope he has had a change of heart to evacuate these people and their families or if America ever goes to war with any nation nobody will risk their lives to serve as interpreters for them.

I disliked how Biden handled the Isreal-Gaza conflict and I don't like the bureaucratic process this is taking for those interpreters.

Guam was trending.Biden can evacuate these people temporarily to Guam before American troops leave.

He is getting his foreign policy wrong except it's relationship with it's foreign allies I see nothing to commend when it comes to foreign policy.

Time will tell
I hope he evacuates them and the republicoons don't make a big issue out of it. The abandonment of the Kurds to Turkey by trump is still fresh in mind

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:14am On Jun 16, 2021
EnlightenedUFO:


UFOs are 100% real. Just praying for one event when millions will see it, and then nothing else will make sense. I believe so much about world's beyond us, man, there's a glorious thing beyond the skies man don't understand yet. I'll talk about my experience soon. I'm blessed to see it.
until you share your experience I will keep an open mind and try not to laugh cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:19am On Jun 16, 2021
EnlightenedUFO:


Well the sad part of US politics is that Biden will never be the 100% antithesis of trump, coz even some of the career bureaucrats in his cabinets are going to slow things down for him, and the trump left overs might do immense damage. The hope is that there's some republicans and democrats in congress that supports the removal of these translators from afghanistan, and these members are former soldiers who served in iraq and afghanistan. If Biden really wants to change the US drastically away from how criminal trump left it, he has to be very bold and cut all these office tapes.

He simply cannot. He needs to not only keep his Democratic base, but also need to make some inroads into the Republican base and most importantly independents, as he most certainly will be seeking re election. Right now immigration is a very risky topic.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:21am On Jun 16, 2021
manshot:


Think of it this way. Just because you were an interpreter for the US means you derseve asylum automatically?I dont think so. The interpreters knew what they were signing up for. And also they could even be killed while even now that the US hasnt left so it is not a matter of the US leaving is why they are still alive

However they were paid for their services. Interpreting for the US in a war agaiant the taliban. And moreso,they should even be in their hundreds. They should also go through the normal process of asylum seeking if they have a genuine case and not giving them an added advantage just because they worked for the US Military because they never worked for free..They were paid and therein comes the hazards with it too

My small take
think of it in terms of storage of future goodwill, yes interpretation was a job for them but a life threatening job that makes them and their families targets if they are left behind after the U.S withdrawal, what incentives does that provide for locals in future conflict spots to corporate with the military if they have a history of abandoning those that worked with them in the past?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:22am On Jun 16, 2021
AmazonTopaz:


I beg to disagree,America says it is a nation for human rights and says it is the shinning beacon on a hill.

Do you know if asylum is part of what they agreed to in the deal they had.Even the troops welcome the idea of evacuating these people.

I see no reason why they shouldn't be assisted when they did same for America.Why should America abandon such an ally if they do so now they will never be taken seriously again.

They should be evacuated because they were paid doesn't mean they should die.What was America doing in their country to begin with?since they didn't win the war they after these interpreters have risked their lives for them and the Taliban is still not annihilated the least America can do is to help these people out.

Some people are given added advantage when it comes to seeking asylum for different reasons theirs should in no way be different.I am not even talking about an asylum because that process is slow people are calling for an evacuation to Guam temporarily because once those troops leave they will be haunted and I don't think in 2021 Biden will want that on him.
my point exactly

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:24am On Jun 16, 2021
GalaticHorde:
I hope he evacuates them and the republicoons don't make a big issue out of it. The abandonment of the Kurds to Turkey by trump is still fresh in mind

The Republicans would certainly make it a huge issue. In fact that might be the only talking point going into the mid term elections. Tucker Carlson and Fox news would not talk about anything else.
If the Republicans can support Trump to hand over the kurds who actually helped them to defeat ISIS to Erdogan, you think it's ordinary translators that the Republicans would care about.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:27am On Jun 16, 2021
benalvino2:
Palestinians and jew haters all over will soon realise the guy they wanted out was more lenient to Hamas and Palestinians than the new guy. When it comes to the west Bank, he wants it all. He clearly does not support giving land to Palestinians.

Hamas has started their attacks again on insrael and they have been met with airstrikes
what came first? The chicken or the egg? I see Jewish ultranationalists parrading in your headline, you do understand that of itself that qualifies as a valid provocation of the Palestinians right?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 8:30am On Jun 16, 2021
wirinet:


The Republicans would certainly make it a huge issue. In fact that might be the only talking point going into the mid term elections. Tucker Carlson and Fox news would not talk about anything else.
If the Republicans can support Trump to hand over the kurds who actually helped them to defeat ISIS to Erdogan, you think it's ordinary translators that the Republicans would care about.
I wonder why some democrats and even Biden to an extent pander to republicoons that weren't elected to lead in this dispensation all in the name of bipartisanship! If democrats fail to achieve more goodwill from the American public this time, they'd only have themselves to blame.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:51am On Jun 16, 2021
GalaticHorde:
I wonder why some democrats and even Biden to an extent pander to republicoons that weren't elected to lead in this dispensation all in the name of bipartisanship! If democrats fail to achieve more goodwill from the American public this time, they'd only have themselves to blame.
Remember democrats did not win with a clear majority. The Senate is 50 - 50 and hold only a slight majority in the house. Also remember Trump gathered 73 million votes. So the democrats cannot disregard Republican voters and concerns.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DriveByKiller: 9:08am On Jun 16, 2021
GalaticHorde:
#yawns

Boring! Take it outta this thread I dare you. I will show you how savage, original and unyielding you're not cry baby. You can dance like a headless chicken till you drop on this thread for all I care, I'm waiting for you to do it outside. Your tripe doesn't faze me, I'm only constrained by my own declarations and that is your saving grace. This will be my last response to you on this thread, I have indulged you enough to tempt you to bite my bait, you doggedly refuse to so I'm going to leave you to your cowardice but hey, don't forget to award yourself a victory and get your fan kokoarsehole to hand it over to you in both of your self validating emotional support idiots club. Like I said earlier, it is the sum of your worth
will you shut that septic tank you call mouth!
You're inherently inferior to me from the basics of evolution!

If you have any decorum you would bury your ugly head in shame.


You have begged for fight on this thread like a new hoe hustling rich clients.. you have relentlessly gone after others on this very thread you felt you could out-diss!

You had literally begged us to ignore Ibime and engage you. You got your wishes and was beaten like a market thief mercilessly.

You no dey shame? Demon possessed idiot.

Now you're shifting position like a rookie courtesan doing porn rehearsals.

What a shameless dweeb!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 9:29am On Jun 16, 2021
wirinet:

Remember democrats did not win with a clear majority. The Senate is 50 - 50 and hold only a slight majority in the house. Also remember Trump pgathered 73 million votes. So the democrats cannot disregard Republican voters and concerns.
they can on important policy issues like the $15 minimum wage, the infrastructure bill and Medicare act which have high approval ratings even amongst republican voters, it is just that democrats are a party of divided loyalties and that will be their undoing

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