gannod:






reminds me of a funny story. In the early eighties when my dad just got to the north, Kaduna to be precise, he started greeting the Igala people he came across in Yoruba language but they would not respond. It was a colleague, an Idoma man who told him he should stop greeting them in Yoruba as they are not Yorubas. According yo my old man, what he found funny was their similar tribal marks and their pronunciation which is also similar to the Yorubas.

Na so,

Praxis758:



I'm a good student of international diplomacy and history. Alaska was bought from USSR and the later is history.

UN cannot stop the Itsekiris from joining the Yorubas if they wish. Boundary can be either land or Maritime which is legal and permitted under international jurisprudence and boundary.

Internal agreement through referendum/consensus is all the UN needs to append its signature. History, etymology and culture are all in favour of such a union.
Our proximity through the maritime territory in Ondo state is an added advantage. And note that my insistence is not based in the oil deposit in the Itsekiri land but the cultural and historical affiliations.

On the contrary, oil resources seem to be the motivating factor here, otherwise you should have been fighting for Edo people as well, but since they have no oil, you are not interested

Idiko1:
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I guess it takes a person whose history book is authored by a renowned drunkard and published under influence of strong captivity to recognize another. I suggest you get off your lazy behind and find historic records of true events. Stop reading from the Ojos and Olumides.

The modern Binin historians were those distorting history to confuse their readers. None of their historical distortion is in alignment with archeological records of the Benins.

It's been discovered that the modern Binin historians were manipulating history out of bitterness and envy. They envied the historicity of Ife and Oranmiyan in the making and shaping the cultural course of the Binin empire.

The curators in Binin palace will show you the image of Oranmiyan royally riding on horse into Benin and that singular royal entrance laid the foundation for the greatness of the Benin empire

FreeIgbos:


The moment you claim Yoruba, you lose those lands you're occupying. Your history on that land can be traced to the time you arrived as refugees fleeing from oppression.

The case of Itsekiri is quite different because they're indigenous to the lands they occupy unlike you. So you better be careful and know what you wish for.

The moment they claim Yoruboid
OPC will be deployed like Itsekiri
God help any land grabber like you
You can't coerce a people
Zero8zero
The guy is a fool

FreeIgbos:


On the contrary, oil resources seem to be the motivating factor here, otherwise you should have been fighting for Edo people as well, but since they have no oil, you are not interested

We are not IPOB

And Bini is Bini
Yoruba is Yoruba

They are not Yoruboid

FreeIgbos:


On the contrary, oil resources seem to be the motivating factor here, otherwise you should have been fighting for Edo people as well, but since they have no oil, you are not interested

The Itsekiris have never distort their historical and cultural migration from Ife. The Benins are those manipulating history.

Oil is fast going into extinction with the advancement in research and technology. So oil deposit cannot be the motive but willingness and friendship.

Afterall, the Okuns in Kogi state don't have a drop of oil but they're cultural Yorubas and are ready to join the Yorubas if Nigeria is to break today. The Yorubas too will never alienate them on the ground of resources.

Sammy07:


Keep shut, how about Ogun?
How come an ijebu understands Igala?

How come ijebu understand Itshekiri?

I guess you need to speak for yourself and dumbass Ekiti and leave Ijebu out of your infantile idiocy.

Sammy07:


You served in Kogi yet you don't understand igala language

Let's type igala words and see who will understand igala language better than Yoruba people
I


This is igala language, yet you tell me its not Yoruboid

An average Ekiti or Ondo man like me will understand igala easily

What makes you think Igala is yoruboid? Why not the other way round Yoruba is Igalaoid.

theTranslator:

So you know our history more than us?
Igbo man wey no get history

Do not be silly because you learn one or two obscure things about yourself from a stranger. The bolded sounds stupid and illogical. If Yoruba have history, Igbo have too.

Praxis758:





The modern Binin historians were those distorting history to confuse their readers. None of their historical distortion is in alignment with archeological records of the Benins.

It's been discovered that the modern Binin historians were manipulating history out of bitterness and envy. They envied the historicity of Ife and Oranmiyan in the making and shaping the cultural course of the Binin empire.

The curators in Binin palace will show you the image of Oranmiyan royally riding on horse into Benin and that singular royal entrance laid the foundation for the greatness of the Benin empire

I do not give a ratass about modern or ancient Bini historians. The original home of Yoruba was situated at Oyo-Ile which was 30 to 40 miles north of Ilorin. The later day crap about Ife and Yoruba is a cooked up junk from colorful story tellers.

Idiko1:


Do not be silly because you learn one or two obscure things about yourself from a stranger. The bolded sounds stupid and illogical. If Yoruba have history, Igbo have too.

I'm sorry
But you were talking trash

Idiko1:


I do not give a ratass about modern or ancient Bini historians. The original home of Yoruba was situated at Oyo-Ile which was 30 to 40 miles north of Ilorin. The later day crap about Ife and Yoruba is a cooked up junk from colorful story tellers.

You're not smart enough to comprehend

Keep your foul mouth of Yoruba history

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Idiko1:


I guess you need to speak for yourself and dumbass Ekiti and leave Ijebu out of your infantile idiocy.

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Alaye, there is hardly Yoruba tribe languages that I don't understand.
Be it igbomina
Ibolo, ondo, akoko, ekiti, ilaje, ijesha (small), Oyo, ijebu (a little)
Keep shut.

FreeIgbos:


More hypocrites showing their faces!

You have already concluded them that they can't be an independent nation, really? Based on what factors?

The Bini people said they don't want to be part of Oduduwa, why not leave them alone instead of all these blackmail and intimidation?

FYI[b], if the Bini people refuse to be part of Oduduwa, it automatically means you can't have Itshekiri too because you will have to get past Bini people to have access to Itshekiri and UN can't grant such[/b].

lol have You check Alaska and US on the map?

FreeIgbos:


The moment you claim Yoruba, you lose those lands you're occupying. Your history on that land can be traced to the time you arrived as refugees fleeing from oppression.

The case of Itsekiri is quite different because they're indigenous to the lands they occupy unlike you. So you better be careful and know what you wish for.

Do you know that during the civil war, the biafran soldiers dare not step into our territory. Even our neighbors know that we are Yoruboid by ancestry.
Ukwani, ika neighbors are rejecting you and you think Ugbodu/Olukunmi would buy your biafran bullshit.

theTranslator:

The moment they claim Yoruboid
OPC will be deployed like Itsekiri
God help any land grabber like you
You can't coerce a people
Zero8zero
The guy is a fool

He is high on drugs. We know our ancestry.

Idiko1:


I do not give a ratass about modern or ancient Bini historians. The original home of Yoruba was situated at Oyo-Ile which was 30 to 40 miles north of Ilorin. The later day crap about Ife and Yoruba is a cooked up junk from colorful story tellers.

Your history book should tell you that there are 7 Oyos since inception. The present one is the the 7th known as Oyo Alaafin.

The first Oyo is called Oyo Ile, which you rightly mentioned. It was crushed by war and then ruines are still lying in the present Kwara state.

Also, there are 3 Ifes according to history and chronology. They're Ife Ondaye/Oodaye (Ife of Creation), Ife Ooye (Ife of life and expansion) and thirdly Ife Ooni (Ife of Ownership).

The chronology of history will simply teach you that Ife had been in existence long before Oyo was created. so it'll be wrong of you to place Oyo and Ife side by side while dating the formation of Yoruba. Though Oyo later became most powerful in military capability due btk Sango's bravery and prowess.

Sammy07:


Bros, true true.

Igala language is a Yoruboid language.

Nevertheless, we are not forcing Igala to join us.
And please, remove Edo.
Cos we've disowned them, e don tey

Igala people have the same father with Yoruba and they both originated from Egypt but one Yoruba early schoolar called ajayi crowther wrote a false history against the two brother

FreeIgbos:


More hypocrites showing their faces!

You have already concluded them that they can't be an independent nation, really? Based on what factors?

The Bini people said they don't want to be part of Oduduwa, why not leave them alone instead of all these blackmail and intimidation?

FYI, if the Bini people refuse to be part of Oduduwa, it automatically means you can't have Itshekiri too because you will have to get past Bini people to have access to Itshekiri and UN can't grant such.

Binis are part of Yorubas. But that's not really my concern. Because in reality, the Bini has been betraying everyone. The idea of Midwest was the Bini allowing themselves to be used by the north.

Talking about Itsekiri, There are many instances of a sovereign state within another state. A quick check will confirm this. But honestly, I am more concern about having a willing Oduduwa nation than coercing anyone to join.

Kcitytv:
Igala kingdom has been in existence before the name Yoruba was given to you people around 17c or so. you can't call Igala Yoruba .go and check your history that how they call people Nago and olukumi people Yoruba minewhile there are igalas. Igala can not be Yoruba go and check your history bro. the only people that existed among igala people than are igala kingdom, benin kjngdom, oyo empire and the rest nothing like Yoruba than. they just use educate to turn the story upside side via ajayi Crowder .main you igala are in southeast south south and many other places, igala ruled back than ask any Yoruba man to tell you the meaning of ikoyi in yoruba, it not found ikoyi means time in igala. remember even the nupe ruled oyo for many years. before they think to form Yoruba. even some minority tribe have been there before Yoruba. go and ask about Attah Igala

Oga stop saying what you don't know. Are you aware there are other parts of Yoruba land that bear Ikoyi? The stories of the Igalas are known knowledge. Stop saying what you don't know. If you want to know how the Igalas and Yorubas are linked, check out archives in Ife and Oyo. I am nit going to say anything here. Because some of the story would sound insulting in 21st century.

Praxis758:





Itsekiri and Yoruba land are connected via Atlantic Ocean. Same way Alaska in the US gets connected to the mainland US.

A simple study of the map will teach you that Alaska is closer to Russia and and shares thousands of miles of boundary with Canada but far and detached from the US in physical land territory.

We oduduwas and the Itsekiris will connect same way Alaska and mainland US connect together.

Pls tell me the diplomatic and economic factors that favours Edo Republic if they get independent Republic?

Even if we are not connected by sea, Itsekiri can be a sovereignty part of Yoruba nation within snother country as Spain has in Morocco, UK in Argentina etc. There instances of sovereign states within another state in Africa. The boy is just being ignorant

Sammy07:


Guy do you know what's you're saying?

From ilaje, I do go to,warri without passing Edo

Stop saying what you don't know because there are people who are from the place.

I'm from Ondo state and Ilaje is connected to Warri

Na small children full Nairaland. I am Ilaje and I know how things are there.

Idiko1:



The bolded is arrant nonsense!!! Yoruba migrated to present day Nigeria from southern part of Upper Volta which was northern part of Gold Coast. They formed a migratory team with Fulani and settled in Oyo ile which was 30 to 40 miles north of Ilorin, Kwara State. The southward movement of Yoruba was as a result of uproot precipitated by Fulani and Nupe. The crap about Ife is a made-up story.

Lolz una no well for this Nairaland. Person wey see u now go think say u know something. Just say nonsense with boldness.

IJOBA11:
BUT ALL ANIOMA PEOPLE THAT SPEAKS IGBO FLUENTLY AND SHARE THE SAME CUSTOMS AND TRADITION SHOULD NEVER JOIN THEIR IGBO KINSMEN IN THE EAST AS A NATION.


I’M ASHAMED OF YOU

Wetin concern Yoruba and Anioma. Dem say make u no go with your Anioma? I am trying to understand where your mstter even enter this discussion.

Sammy07:



Igala language is a Yoruboid language, that's the fact everyone knows

How's it a fact. Just cause they have similar sounding words does not make them Yoruboid

if you have any proof of that, pls share it.

Powersurge:


Even if we are not connected by sea, Itsekiri can be a sovereignty part of Yoruba nation within snother country as Spain has in Morocco, UK in Argentina etc. There instances of sovereign states within another state in Africa. The boy is just being ignorant

Bravo to you.

The examples and instances you sited should educate him enough and silence his arguement.

More wealth of knowledge to you bros.

Praxis758:




Just leave the Edo people alone, they'll still come and beg to join Oduduwa Republic because they're our descendants.

There's no chance of then having an independent country because none of the terms and conditions favour them.

The itsekiris in Delta State have never denied their ancestors from Its, it's only the Benins that are twisting history.

I am not sure of the Binis descending from the Yoruba Nation. One thing I know is that we have a lot in common with them.
They said Oduduwa, the Progenitor of the Yoruba Nation, was a scoundrel Prince of Benin Kingdom. But they agreed that Oranmiyan, a grandchild of Oduduwa was the 1st Oba of Benin and his offsprings, are the occupant of the Oba's stool in Benin, till date.
Which means Benin royalty has Yoruba traits in their blood.
Oduduwa, a Benin Prince, was the Progenitor of the Yoruba race, while Oduduwa's grandson was the 1st Oba of the Binis and the Bini throne is still being occupied by his descendants.

What about BiYoruba or BiniYoruba Nation with seat of power in Orisun-Yoruba(Ile-Ife) or Akure?
Think about it!

Please leave the North alone