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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:06am On Jun 29, 2021
budaatum:
Meanwhile! But I guess the truth will out sooner or later.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges.html
Old news. The one obixcel posted is a 180 of this thing you just posted. You haven't been following.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:09am On Jun 29, 2021
basilico:
The article says that 152 people died of covid-19

The rest could have died of something else BB ut they were covid-19 positive which was listed as their cause of death.

If there was no covid-19 there would still be people who died , maybe having covid-19 accelerated They should not have been determined to have died of covid-19 solely. Only 152 fell into that category going by the article
You obviously didn't read the article. Pay attention to the bolded:

However, Internet users forget to note important information. In this sentence, it is clearly specified that the court only takes into account the certificates issued by these famous “doctors who work for the Ministry of Justice”. However, they represent only a fraction of the people authorized to produce these certificates. With theObserver, a site certified by the IFCN as part of the international fact-checking network, the health authorities have clarified the role of these experts.

They are in fact entitled to collaborate in the process of certifying deaths only when there is a “suspicion that a crime resulted in death”. “Forensic autopsies performed by doctors attached to the Ministry of Justice take place in situations of violent death or of unknown cause”, thus noted the Portuguese General Directorate of Health to our colleagues. They therefore only represent “the smallest part” sources that certify deaths linked to the epidemic. “The vast majority of death certificates […] are issued by doctors linked to the Ministry of Health “, and not that of Justice.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:09am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
I hope you realise The Babylon Bee is a satirical news outfit? AKA Fake News?
I bet he doesn't!
https://babylonbee.com/about

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:10am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
Of course i do. But that's not just a satire, it exposed the foolishness of her. She is unhappy with the country, oppressed by the country yet she represent the country only to disrespect the country. No one is forcing her, if she was forced to represent the country then I will understand her display.

She is a goat looking for deal from Nike. Nothing more nothing less.
Where does she say she's oppressed by the country?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 9:14am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
She is hoping for a Nike deal. You hate your country so much that you represent your country grin the oxymoron no go kill me.
Trying to do a Collin Kapernick grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:21am On Jun 29, 2021
budaatum:
I bet he doesn't!
https://babylonbee.com/about
I am not like you though who believe pigs fly.

Www.pigs-dont-fly.com/about
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:22am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
You obviously didn't read the article. Pay attention to the bolded:

However, Internet users forget to note important information. In this sentence, it is clearly specified that the court only takes into account the certificates issued by these famous “doctors who work for the Ministry of Justice”. However, they represent only a fraction of the people authorized to produce these certificates. With theObserver, a site certified by the IFCN as part of the international fact-checking network, the health authorities have clarified the role of these experts.

They are in fact entitled to collaborate in the process of certifying deaths only when there is a “suspicion that a crime resulted in death”. “Forensic autopsies performed by doctors attached to the Ministry of Justice take place in situations of violent death or of unknown cause”, thus noted the Portuguese General Directorate of Health to our colleagues. They therefore only represent “the smallest part” sources that certify deaths linked to the epidemic. “The vast majority of death certificates […] are issued by doctors linked to the Ministry of Health “, and not that of Justice.
I dont care. Maybe Ive been played and the essense of posting something like this is that if it's not true someone can debunk it and Ill accept.
The article you are quoting does not convince me otherwise.
For I also know CDC had something like 6% of pure covid-19 deaths from the reported in total.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 9:23am On Jun 29, 2021
basilico:
Looks like Vance is threatening to charge Trump org if something else does not happen.
Maybe if Trump rules out running in future the charges can be dropped.
Lol Trump better watch carefully for his life, liberal lunacy is at its peak. It takes only one lunatic to do the damage. If they don't succeed legally through the courts they may try physically, these guys are desperate and u can never discount anything at this point.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:24am On Jun 29, 2021
basilico:
I dont care. Maybe Ive been played and the essense of posting something like this is that if it's not true someone can debunk it and Ill accept.
The article you are quoting does not convince me otherwise.
For I also know CDC had something like 6% of pure covid-19 deaths from the reported in total.
LMAO! You are referencing something from Portugal and now pointing to CDC. Is CDC from Portugal? Bwahahahahahahaha
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:27am On Jun 29, 2021
Biden attacked Syria and Iraq yesterday.

Today they have fired at a US; base in retaliation.
Where does it end up ?

A war could hog the news for some weeks , sending every other newsworthy item to the back burner. A distraction? Maybe, maybe not

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePatsGazette/status/1409607302508945408?s=19
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m):
LordReed:
Where does she say she's oppressed by the country?
Not hard to find. Why do you think she is showing hate for a country she is representing? She is there and the same merit system that got her there; gave her 3rd place. That's modern day America for you. She want equity? To take first because she is black?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:30am On Jun 29, 2021
basilico:
Biden attacked Syria and Iraq yesterday.

Today they have fired at a US; base in retaliation.
Where does it end up ?

A war could hog the news for some weeks , sending every other newsworthy item to the back burner. A distraction? Maybe, maybe not

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePatsGazette/status/1409607302508945408?s=19[/quote]Biden should not be soft, I support him. He should attack those POS trump style so that they think twice. He should also start by putting serious sanctions to add to The ones trump put in place. Sadly he is weak and wants to remove them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:30am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
LMAO! You are referencing something from Portugal and now pointing to CDC. Is CDC from Portugal? Bwahahahahahahaha
Stop being shallow. There was a tendency by the media and medics to exagerate the number of covid-19 deaths especially last year .
This Lisbon thing does not surprise me if they exaggerated.
That has been my point of quoting the post.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:33am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
Biden should not be soft, I support him. He should attack those POS trump style so that they think twice. He should also start by putting serious sanctions to add to The ones trump put in place. Sadly he is weak and wants to remove them.
Problem is that he is negotiating with Iran over the JPOA agreement.
Iran is funding these terrorists he attacked, those rockets fired back at the US base are most likely Iranian in origin.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:37am On Jun 29, 2021
basilico:
Stop being shallow. There was a tendency by the media and medics to exagerate the number of covid-19 deaths especially last year .
This Lisbon thing does not surprise me if they exaggerated.
That has been my point of quoting the post.
And stop being a dunderhead. You referenced a blog post from Portugal how is that evidence of what occurred in the US? Not only that you are deliberately misconstrued the information to paint a false picture, the only one exaggerating here is clearly you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:38am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
LMAO! You are referencing something from Portugal and now pointing to CDC. Is CDC from Portugal? Bwahahahahahahaha
At least he owned up to his mistake abi? Unlike budaatum that will turn around and say you don't understand, comprehension bla bla, then he will make a false statement and when asked to back his claim he will say the Budden of proof is not on him. It is on you challenging his lunacy.

Last debate he and salford made a goof of themselves but salford later agree to what I was saying but budaatum ran away and never commented.

I am still hoping he will admit to being wrong though. It's something he never does and I don't know why.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:40am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
Not hard to find. Why do you think she is showing hate for a country she is representing? She is there and the same merit system that got her their gave her 3rd place. That's modern day America for you. She want equity? To take first because she is black?
Wait, speaking out against systemic racism is now a bad thing or what exactly? And how did merit system give her 3rd place? Was it merit system that threw the hammer for her?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:41am On Jun 29, 2021
basilico:
Problem is that he is negotiating with Iran over the JPOA agreement.
Iran is funding these terrorists he attacked, those rockets fired back at the US base are most likely Iranian in origin.
Which is why I am saying he should attack them like Israel and sanction Iran. Also let Israel dismantle their nuclear ambition.

I support him doing somgething but he is weak
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:42am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
Wait, speaking out against systemic racism is now a bad thing or what exactly? And how did merit system give her 3rd place? Was it merit system that threw the hammer for her?
Tell me one systematic racism that's keeping her from taking first place or representing America.

Name one systematic racism you know olding blacks back today. I don't mean in the 70s or 80s, I mean today
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:43am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
At least he owned up to his mistake abi? Unlike budaatum that will turn around and say you don't understand, comprehension bla bla, then he will make a false statement and when asked to back his claim he will say the Budden of proof is not on him. It is on you challenging his lunacy.

Last debate he and salford made a goof of themselves but salford later agree to what I was saying but budaatum ran away and never commented.

I am still hoping he will admit to being wrong though. It's something he never does and I don't know why.
He said he doesn't care if his information is false and you call that owning up to a mistake?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:44am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
Wait, speaking out against systemic racism is now a bad thing or what exactly? And how did merit system give her 3rd place? Was it merit system that threw the hammer for her?
Aslo, if it's not by merit then she for take first, and first for take 3rd or she won't even be there. The best 3 is what you saw on the podium and she is the 3rd best out of the 3. It's merit.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:44am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
He said he doesn't care if his information is false and you call that owning up to a mistake?
But he admits it was false isn't it? That's a good start.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:46am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
Tell me one systematic racism that's keeping her from taking first place or representing America.

Name one systematic racism you know olding blacks back today. I don't mean in the 70s or 80s, I mean today
How many black Senate Republicans are there?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:46am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
But he admits it was false isn't it? That's a good start.
Saying "I don't care" is not an admission.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:47am On Jun 29, 2021
benalvino2:
Aslo, if it's not by merit then she for take first, and first for take 3rd or she won't even be there. The best 3 is what you saw on the podium and she is the 3rd best out of the 3. It's merit.
And what has that got to do with anything you are saying?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:54am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
And what has that got to do with anything you are saying?
Because you asked how did merit gave her 3rd.

The United is merit base. Hardwork gets you to places except your best friend or father is the ceo. She taking 3rd or representing America shows her Hardwork because she is the top 3 in the country. Her spot was not taken by a white woman because she is white. We watch 3 compete and she came out 3rd.thats merit.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:55am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
Saying "I don't care" is not an admission.
He says the literature was wrong. That's admission to your claim That he puts up false information.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 9:57am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
How many black Senate Republicans are there?
And that's not the question you were asked. Provide any systematic racism keeping blacks from any office or succeeding is the question


If democrats are not brainwashing blacks there would be many because there were black Republicans in government before there were black dems in government.

So stop calling any black who run as a GOP uncle Tom's and seller if you want to see more of them. No one is stopping them but people like you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:58am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
And stop being a dunderhead. You referenced a blog post from Portugal how is that evidence of what occurred in the US? Not only that you are deliberately misconstrued the information to paint a false picture, the only one exaggerating here is clearly you.
Just to help you further

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

An Emergency Use
Authorization (EUA) is a
mechanism to facilitate the
availability and use of medical
countermeasures, including
vaccines, during public health
emergencies, such as the current
COVID-19 pandemic.
Under an
EUA, FDA may allow the use of
unapproved medical products,
or unapproved uses of approved
medical products in an
emergency to diagnose, treat, or
prevent serious or life-
threatening diseases or
conditions when certain
statutory criteria have been
met, including that there are no
adequate, approved, and
available alternatives.



@bolded You think the Pharma industry had any reason to promote any cheap drug worth pennies that has high promises of combating covid-19? Say hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin.

That would be a good reason to exaggerate corona virus deaths and downplay any drug effective in combating covid-19. Worldwide not just Lisbon.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:14am On Jun 29, 2021
LordReed:
He said he doesn't care if his information is false and you call that owning up to a mistake?
The information is not yet proven false, underlie that with my last post above And I lay my case why the deaths from covid-19 are sexxed up.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:28am On Jun 29, 2021
basilico:
The article says that 152 people died of covid-19

The rest could have died of something else BB ut they were covid-19 positive which was listed as their cause of death.

If there was no covid-19 there would still be people who died , maybe having covid-19 accelerated They should not have been determined to have died of covid-19 solely. Only 152 fell into that category going by the article
Covid kills people my friend. My mother inlaw has been down with Covid the last two weeks but thankfully is on the mend. We had to get her private supply of oxygen and a doctor to tend her 24/7. Her oxygen levels were down to 88 and the doctor said she would have died without such intervention. As far as I am aware, her life was not in danger from anything else but Covid.

Because people are dying due to "brief illness" in Nigeria and you have not got the resources to confirm either way, don't go making assumptions. Another of my colleagues husband was on ventilator for weeks this time last year with no underlying condition.

It is true in the UK at least that anyone in Hospital who has another condition but has a Covid diagnosis when they die is marked down as a Covid death, however there are still many without a different illness who die, and many more with treatable illnesses who covid takes out.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:42am On Jun 29, 2021
Ibime:
Covid kills people my friend. My mother inlaw has been down with Covid the last two weeks but thankfully is on the mend. We had to get her private supply of oxygen and a doctor to tend her 24/7. Her oxygen levels were down to 88 and the doctor said she would have died without such intervention. As far as I am aware, her life was not in danger from anything else but Covid.

Because people are dying due to "brief illness" in Nigeria and you have not got the resources to confirm either way, don't go making assumptions. Another of my colleagues husband was on ventilator for weeks this time last year with no underlying condition.

It is true in the UK at least that anyone in Hospital who has another condition but has a Covid diagnosis when they die is marked down as a Covid death, however there are still many without a different illness who die, and many more with treatable illnesses who covid takes out.
Ive been reading on covid-19 . Its a killer disease. It has no treatment such as pneumonia for instance. initially people infected were being adviced to quarantine and let the body immune system fight the virus.
For someone with other conditions covid-19 is deadly and its not a disease to joke with.

Why would the medical world exaggerate cases and promote a vaccine on 8b people?
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