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nnadychuks:
When will people stop manipulating the word of God to suit their selfish intentions?
Look at these scriptures carefully:
FIRST POINT- 1 Corinthians 6:18 KJV- Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

SECOND POINT Hebrews 13:4 KJV- Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous

3RD POINT- Mathew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

4TH POINT- Colossians 3:5- Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry

Here is why masturbation is not a sin
From the first and second scriptures above, it explains the laws which you must obey as Christians.
1. Thou shall not Fornicate: As seen here, the Lord values our body and how we use it on this earth.
For His hatred on Fornication, the Lord devised an alternative which is marriage
{But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband (1 Corinthian 7:2). }
2. Thou shalt not comit adultery: (From the second point) Even as our Father has devised an alternative for us which is marriage, He has also directed us not to involve in sexual activities outside our marriage bed.
Context
From the first part of this lesson, you've understood what God despises as sexual sin, which is Fornication
and adultery.
Now, what justifies the fact that masturbation isn't a sin?
From the 3rd point above you'll understand that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has committed a sexual sin... Now, if you masturbate, there's high chance that you don't have a strong sexual desire towards the actress; you just probably want to satisfy yourself and get on with your life.
So I ask, where have you sinned?
The fact you think our heavenly father wants us to suffer is the reason why you're still suffering. You can't pray after you masturbated, but I bet you, you can't also pray when you have a full belly. Consider it that way.
Life is not that difficult. I mean it gets easier if you accept yourself and follow the Laws of the Holy book just as it is. Don't complicate things by trying to manipulate laws to suit your selfish interest.
EXPLAINING THE 4TH POINT
4TH POINT- Colossians 3:5- Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry
- If you are a human being and live or think like a pig, then you're practicing "uncleanliness"
- If you have an over zealous love over something, probably a game console, or alcohol and it makes you miss Church then you have "Inordinate affection" over earthly things.
-Please abolish evil thoughts against your neighbors today and you might be free from "evil concupiscence"
- Not everything you see, you'll have an inordinate affection to acquire. "Covetiousness" isn't worth it.
One thing you must learn to do is to follow the Laws of the Bible just the way it is. Don't complicate anything to avoid the after result which can be depression, badluck, etc...

Matthew 5 v 27-28;
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.

28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Question for you is… do you masturbate without lusting after a woman?

Doesn’t that (looking at a woman lustfully) also fall into the bracket of sexual immorality?

It's like you Masturbate, that's why you went on on this research to justify yourself.

Let me ask you something, how do you feel when you masturbate ? You feel ashamed of yourself and your conscience hunts you right ?

OkCornel:


Matthew 5 v 27-28;
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.

28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Question for you is… do you masturbate without lusting after a woman?

Doesn’t that (looking at a woman lustfully) also fall into the bracket of sexual immorality?

Listen here, looking at someone lustful means you want to have sex with her. Otherwise, you're just looking. As long as you have no intentions of fornication with her, which the Lord has condemned, then there is no issue on ground.

MITCHELL96:
It's like you Masturbate, that's why you went on on this research to justify yourself.

Let me ask you something, how do you feel when you masturbate ? You feel ashamed of yourself and your conscience hunts you right ?

If I masturbate, the only reason I'd feel bad is if it's wrong. Yes, we glorify fornication, which is a clear sin, but we condemn those who masturbate, just because condemning it satisfies us...

Bro, Masturbation is bad and a sin before God, try and stop it, Anything you do in private without anybody seeing you, what does that mean? If it's not a sin or a bad thing, why don't you take your cream or oil and do it in from of people? You see ? You can't do that, so condemn it.

MITCHELL96:
Bro, Masturbation is bad and a sin before God, try and stop it, Anything you do in private without anybody seeing you, what does that mean? If it's not a sin or a bad thing, why don't you take your cream or oil and do it in from of people? You see ? You can't do that, so condemn it.

you're very funny... do married couples have sex in public as well?

nnadychuks:
you're very funny... do married couples have sex in public as well?

They're married already, they need privacy, Even some oyibo married couples have sex in Public sef, Like at the beach, Remember, we're talking about masturbation here not sex

I think people are missing the point here. just like tithing, there is the law to tithe and there are instructions on how to implement it...
As for tithing;
Malachi 3:10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.


Now that we have the tithe in the store house, what do we do with it?


Deuteronomy 14:22-29- Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wineand olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learnto revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink,(H) or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.

The above is how to implement the tithing. But no, when the tithe gets to the store house our pastors keep it there and fail to implement the law.

If you like misinterpret the Bible for your own benefits, there is a punishment awaiting all of you because you interpreted the Bible for your own benefits.

MITCHELL96:



They're married already, they need privacy, Even some oyibo married couples have sex in Public sef, Like at the beach, Remembe, we're talking about masturbation here not sex

and you think married couples having sex in public is not a sin? come on, follow the principle of the Bible as it is o... even tithing, thesame tin...

nnadychuks:
and you think married couples having sex in public is not a sin? come on, follow the principle of the Bible as it is o... even tithing, thesame tin...

But they're married right abii ? Only married people should indulge in sex, where they do it doesn't really matter as long they are married, And then, This word SELF CONTROL comes in, the couple should learn to control theirselves till they're home. That's what you should do too when you want to masturbate, you control yourself not To do it, it's something that has To do with the mind, your mind needs to be strong to conquer this, Masturbation is a sin because it has to do with watching porn videos or starring at a naked girl's pic to stimulate your sexual mood

nnadychuks:
Listen here, looking at someone lustful means you want to have sex with her. Otherwise, you're just looking. As long as you have no intentions of fornication with her, which the Lord has condemned, then there is no issue on ground.

You didn't answer the question he asked.

You are right that masturbation is not a sin! Instead Jesus Christ declared that lust, in your heart, is sin - adultery. So the question is, when you masturbate, or think of masturbation, do you lust in your heart , even after a woman, for it?

nnadychuks:
and you think married couples having sex in public is not a sin? come on, follow the principle of the Bible as it is o... even tithing, thesame tin...

Where is it written that married couples must only have sex in private?

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written that married couples must only have sex in private?

Looks like you like watching porn...

MITCHELL96:


But they're married right abii ? Only married people should indulge in sex, where they do it doesn't really matter as long they are married, And then, This word SELF CONTROL comes in, the couple should learn to control theirselves till they're home. That's what you should do too when you want to masturbate, you control yourself not To do it, it's something that has To do with the mind, your mind needs to be strong to conquer this, Masturbation is a sin because it has to do with watching porn videos or starring at a naked girl's pic to stimulate your sexual mood

it is a sin because you're an alpha and you decide what is sin or not?? honestly if you have no intentions in your heart to have sex or commit adultery in your heart with a woman, then you have not committed any sin. Life no hard.
If you observe clearly, the first thing God despised is fornication and that's why he asked us to get married to avoid it. In other words, the center of the topic is having intentions to fornicate with a woman. Masturbation on the other hand is like an "open source" software. The target is to satisfy yourself without involving a woman. If Youre not initiating anybody to your act, by thoughts or by action then you don't have any problems... does the masturbator have intentions to fvck the IndecentStar? If he does then that's where the sin is. If his ideology is just to satisfy his dopamine levels then who are you to judge?

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written that married couples must only have sex in private?

not written in the Bible, but we have it in our constitution. If our constitution didn't condemn it, then you have no right to judge

Kobojunkie:
You didn't answer the question he asked.

You are right that masturbation is not a sin! Instead Jesus Christ declared that lust, in your heart, is sin - adultery. So the question is, when you masturbate, or think of masturbation, do you lust in your heart , even after a woman, for it?

the explanation will be futile if you don't know the meaning of "lust" . Do you know you can lust over food? Or material things? If you want to define lust, define it based on Fornication and Adultery...

nnadychuks:
it is a sin because you're an alpha and you decide what is sin or not?? honestly if you have no intentions in your heart to have sex or commit adultery in your heart with a woman, then you have not committed any sin. Life no hard.
If you observe clearly, the first thing God despised is fornication and that's why he asked us to get married to avoid it. In other words, the center of the topic is having intentions to fornicate with a woman. Masturbation on the other hand is like an "open source" software. The target is to satisfy yourself without involving a woman. If Youre not initiating anybody to your act, by thoughts or by action then you don't have any problems... does the masturbator have intentions to fvck the IndecentStar? If he does then that's where the sin is. If his ideology is just to satisfy his dopamine levels then who are you to judge?

The bible only alternative to avoid fornication and all those acts is by getting married, the bibble never said anything about masturbation, so if you can't wait till you get married and enjoy sex as you wish, then it's up to you, it's your body though, you know what'st good for you.

MITCHELL96:



The bible only alternative to avoid fornication and all those acts is by getting married, the bibble never said anything about masturbation, so if you can't wait till you get married and enjoy sex as you wish, then it's up to you, it's your body though, you know what'st good for you.

whoops...
Hebrews 13:4
Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

How about we care about who God will judge rather than caring about who you will judge... marriage is an alternative but there is a law that governs marriage. Did the bible define masturbating in marriage? Or if I may ask, will you judge married couples who masturbate with their spouse pictures? What if at that point the husband just wants to relieve stress by watching the wife's video and wanking but have no strength to fvck? Did he comit adultery at this point? You see, it gets more complicated when you try to manipulate the word.
Masturbation isn't a sin. Nowhere was it stated...

sonmvayina:

Looks like you like watching porn...

Why? Because married couples having sex is porn?

nnadychuks:
the explanation will be futile if you don't know the meaning of "lust" . Do you know you can lust over food? Or material things? If you want to define lust, define it based on Fornication and Adultery...

Answer the question already!

Jesus Christ said that the lust, in your heart, after a woman, is sin. When you masturbate, or right before you do, do you lust in your heart after another being?

nnadychuks:
not written in the Bible, but we have it in our constitution. If our constitution didn't condemn it, then you have no right to judge

Is God's definition of sin as defined in your constitution?

Kobojunkie:
Answer the question already!

Jesus Christ said that lust after a woman is sin of adultery. When you masturbate, or right before you do, do you lust in your heart after another being?

your problem is you're not opening your mind to learning new things. Masturbation is sin! Yes my pastor said it! Then it's sin!!
Lust is defined as a strong sexual desire towards someone. What it means is you either have an intention of fornication or adultery, but you haven't done it yet.
To answer your question: yes you can watch porn without lust. Just as you get the satisfaction of sweet music and dance you can be satisfied by the sight of porn and stimulate your genitals.
Do you now understand what lust mean or I should leave you to your Pastor?

Kobojunkie:
Is God's definition of sin as defined in your constitution?

there is difference between sin, norms and culture...

nnadychuks:
your problem is you're not opening your mind to learning new things. Masturbation is sin! Yes my pastor said it! Then it's sin!!
Lust is defined as a strong sexual desire towards someone. What it means is you either have an intention of fornication or adultery, but you haven't done it yet.
To answer your question: yes you can watch porn without lust. Just as you get the satisfaction of sweet music and dance you can be satisfied by the sight of porn and stimulate your genitals.
Do you now understand what lust mean or I should leave you to your Pastor?

Um.... again...

Kobojunkie:
You didn't answer the question he asked.

You are right that masturbation is not a sin! Instead Jesus Christ declared that lust, in your heart, is sin - adultery. So the question is, when you masturbate, or think of masturbation, do you lust in your heart , even after a woman, for it?

nnadychuks:
there is difference between sin, norms and culture...

So, again, is God's definition of that which is ,Sin against Him, as defined in your constitution?

nnadychuks:
When will people stop manipulating the word of God to suit their selfish intentions?
Look at these scriptures carefully:
FIRST POINT- 1 Corinthians 6:18 KJV- Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

SECOND POINT Hebrews 13:4 KJV- Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous

3RD POINT- Mathew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

4TH POINT- Colossians 3:5- Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry

Here is why masturbation is not a sin
From the first and second scriptures above, it explains the laws which you must obey as Christians.
1. Thou shall not Fornicate: As seen here, the Lord values our body and how we use it on this earth.
For His hatred on Fornication, the Lord devised an alternative which is marriage
{But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband (1 Corinthian 7:2). }
2. Thou shalt not comit adultery: (From the second point) Even as our Father has devised an alternative for us which is marriage, He has also directed us not to involve in sexual activities outside our marriage bed.
Context
From the first part of this lesson, you've understood what God despises as sexual sin, which is Fornication
and adultery.
Now, what justifies the fact that masturbation isn't a sin?
From the 3rd point above you'll understand that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has committed a sexual sin... Now, if you masturbate, there's high chance that you don't have a strong sexual desire towards the actress; you just probably want to satisfy yourself and get on with your life.
So I ask, where have you sinned?
The fact you think our heavenly father wants us to suffer is the reason why you're still suffering. You can't pray after you masturbated, but I bet you, you can't also pray when you have a full belly. Consider it that way.
Life is not that difficult. I mean it gets easier if you accept yourself and follow the Laws of the Holy book just as it is. Don't complicate things by trying to manipulate laws to suit your selfish interest.
EXPLAINING THE 4TH POINT
4TH POINT- Colossians 3:5- Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry
- If you are a human being and live or think like a pig, then you're practicing "uncleanliness"
- If you have an over zealous love over something, probably a game console, or alcohol and it makes you miss Church then you have "Inordinate affection" over earthly things.
-Please abolish evil thoughts against your neighbors today and you might be free from "evil concupiscence"
- Not everything you see, you'll have an inordinate affection to acquire. "Covetiousness" isn't worth it.
One thing you must learn to do is to follow the Laws of the Bible just the way it is. Don't complicate anything to avoid the after result which can be depression, badluck, etc...

Doctrines of devils.
As they didn't like to retain God in their knowledge, He gave them over to a reprobate mind to do things that aren't convenient.

enthronedbyGod1:



Doctrines of devils.
As they didn't like to retain God in their knowledge, He gave them over to a reprobate mind to do things that aren't convenient.

talk wetin person go understand abeg

nnadychuks:
Listen here, looking at someone lustful means you want to have sex with her. Otherwise, you're just looking. As long as you have no intentions of fornication with her, which the Lord has condemned, then there is no issue on ground.

When you masturbate, you raise up a certain woman or women to perform the act and then you fuq her.

That is a Choate Offence and Complete Proof of the Guilt of Adultery and Fornication whichever may be applicable and Contrary to The Law of Lust and Adultery.

Dtruthspeaker:


When you masturbate, you raise up a certain woman or women to perform the act and then you fuq her.

That is a Choate Offence and Complete Proof of the Guilt of Adultery and Fornication whichever may be applicable and Contrary to The Law of Lust and Adultery.

question yourself when you look at women:
If the opportunity to fvck her arises will I do it?
If you'd fvck her, in your mind you have sinned. Otherwise... now, where masturbation could be a sin is if in your mind you're convicted you'd fvck the IndecentStar when the opportunity comes. However, if your goal is to satisfy your urge only, then there is no judgement stated anywhere.

Satanic message!

I know that the young seekers of the Truth are on this site and may come across this type of demonic garbage. It is because of them that I even bothered to put down a comment here.

There is something about sexual purity that worries Satan, the demons and their human slaves.

Sex, within the bounds of the Scriptures, is between a man and his wife. Any other type of sexual relationship is contrary to the Word of the Creator.

Masturbation is a sinful act through and through.

nnadychuks:
question yourself when you look at women:
If the opportunity to fvck her arises will I do it?
If you'd fvck her, in your mind you have sinned. Otherwise... now, where masturbation could be a sin is if in your mind you're convicted you'd fvck the IndecentStar when the opportunity comes. However, if your goal is to satisfy your urge only, then there is no judgement stated anywhere.

As I said earlier, when you masturbate, you draw up a certain woman or women and then you do your will, with, that makes you guilty as you have said in the highlighted.