Just watch and understand how nature can cause a major building collapse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe8p2NhwxdU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQzJCmxkHI8

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/video-house-collapse-manchester-floods-19674115


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0RTmmnq_Y

So if you like go and get JB to build your house and put it in a place without proper planning because JB built it....

bixton:


Also not abiding to set back(s) be it 9m or 3m is not the reason behind building collapse. One of the purposes for setbacks is for utilities.

Just as I shared earlier, where there are no standards I become the standard.

Setbacks act as buffers and protection against flash floods in my personal abode. I have large space for utilities. My fish pond alone is over half plot of land so space is not an issue for me.

In my own land use ordinance , setback is the minimum distance which my building must recede from the street or road, river, flood plain, or any other place which is deemed to need protection.

- The setback from my building to Lafarge Plant in Sagamu (where blasting activities occurs regularly) is about 1.8km.
- The setback from my building to the stream we recently dredged is over 50m
- The setback from my building to established beacons for the proposed Lagos-Calabar railway line (I heard there's realignment) is over 500m

One thing I can guarantee you is that if you dig my foundation this morning despite the heavy downpour in the week, you'll still find dry soil. I was intentional about my build. I don't have energy to fight and my mental health is important to me so I do what I got to do to prevent my kobokobo investment

________

That's why I went for cheap land in area where I can do anything I like without crying when I was going to make my decision to build.

sonnie10:


This your request be somehow. I am assuming you are asking a potential boss to "please indicate". Maybe wrong choice of word.

Greetings, it wasn't meant that way...I have however modified that post in a better way.


Greetings, I am new here.

I graduated from Rivers State University, studied Building Technology.

I look forward for more professional experience in my field as a way to broaden my skills and take up jobs that will help me develop.

I would love to learn from any professional in this field. I am currently in Port Harcourt.

Thanks.

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Kentucky404:




Any humble Professional in the House, should kindly see to this Guy's Request.

Greetings, I am new here.

I graduated from Rivers State University, studied Building Technology.

I look forward for more professional experience in my field as a way to broaden my skills and take up jobs that will help me develop.

I would love to learn from any professional in this field. I am currently in Port Harcourt.

Thanks.

08136849609

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Kentucky404:



Nawa oh! Sorry oo oga.

The guy said': Please indicate, so i can contact you':

Please oo, how else should he have put the request or what's the best/right choice of words?

Perhaps he should have said :My lord & Potential Master to be, Please kindly contact Me:

Lol, No wonder Most bosses in Nigeria act like a god over their employees. A god who needs serious homage for every little thing.

Lol, Hmm, Nigerians and their stupid sense of entitlement.



I come in Peace ooooo!

Thanks, I have however modified it to a better version.


Greetings, I am new here.

I graduated from Rivers State University, studied Building Technology.

I look forward for more professional experience in my field as a way to broaden my skills and take up jobs that will help me develop.

I would love to learn from any professional in this field. I am currently in Port Harcourt.

Thanks.

08136849609

Clients should never get the blame for building collapse except in a very rare case where it can be established beyond reasonable doubt that his or her actions or inactions directly or indirectly contribute or expressly lead to the building collapse.

Apart from force majeure (environmental factors and the likes) the contractor and consultants should be solely responsible especially in an ongoing construction project. Other kinds of collapse in existing old structures could be attributed to age of the building that could result in depreciation of integrity of the structure or even environmental factors.

QSFemi:
Clients should never get the blame for building collapse except in a very rare case where it can be established beyond reasonable doubt that his or her actions or inactions directly or indirectly contribute or expressly lead to the building collapse.

Apart from force majeure (environmental factors and the likes) the contractor and consultants should be solely responsible especially in an ongoing construction project. Other kinds of collapse in existing old structures could be attributed to age of the building that could result in depreciation of integrity of the structure or even environmental factors.

Clients should never get blamed as you stated.

We hire professionals for a reason. One thing I tell my guys is to not go along with any kakamimi ploy pop mine if it's not in accordance with regs.

Video attached is of a skyscraper in San Fransisco that started leaning.

The cause was that the foundation wasn't deep enough and when they started draining water from near the foundation is started sinking.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxS71614E_0&t=530s

Just in: https://punchng.com/five-year-old-boy-die-in-lagos-building-collapse-lasema/

We are already in the season so it's no longer a surprise.

______

I guess the age of the building should take the blame right now.

Engage a Quantity Surveyor for your project today and you'll be glad you did.

To prospective homeowners, the value Quantity Surveyors can bring to your projects cannot be overemphasized. In fact, research has shown that engaging Quantity Surveyors on your project can lead to 25% reduction in the overall cost of construction.

Most clients do not have the knowledge or experience to determine the cost of construction of their planned building and majority of them rely solely on the estimate of the builder or contractor to arrive at a cost for which the project will be executed. This is a very big gamble to the clients who do not have the requisite knowledge and competence to assess the adequacy and fairness of the builder's or contractor's estimate as regards the proposed project. In most cases, the clients may ask for reduction of the estimate or discount without any informed basis of doing such. Quantity Surveyors are specially trained in this regard. Do not gamble with your hard earned money, engage the right person - a quantity surveyor, to advise you on everything relating to cost of every item, scope, change orders, variations, fluctuations and consequently, overall cost of the construction. As a client, you will be happier, more satisfied and more fulfilled knowing fully that you've achieved value for your money.

In synopsis, Quantity Surveyors can do the following for you as a client:

1) Estimate the construction cost of the project before commencing work on site. This will form a scientific budget to you, on the basis of which you can assess your financial preparedness for the project (Read Luke 14:28). This is very important.

2) Oversee the successful bid selection process in a very competitive and transparent fashion. In other words, a Quantity Surveyor will help you award the project to the contractor or builder that has the best quote or estimate after considering the submissions or quotes of 3 or more contractors or builders to get the most responsive. The importance of this cannot be overemphasized given that some unscrupulous contractors can deliberately lower their quote in order to win a contract and subsequently coming for more more on flimsy bases.

3) Establish the quantity of materials needed for every item in the construction process. This is useful to clients that want to buy their materials themselves. Thus will be helpful in ordering materials thereby minimizing wastes and shortages.

4) Establish the cost of labour. As a client, how do you negotiate cost of workmanship on site? Quantity Surveyors can help you.

5) Advise on preliminary cost of the project.

There are many more valuable roles quantity surveyors can offer on a project. However, let's draw the curtain here for now.

Engage and Quantity Surveyor and you will be glad you did.

Cheers.

By the way, I'm a professional Quantity Surveyor with many satisfied clients here on this thread.

Lucky Escape in Apapa (June 28): https://guardian.ng/news/occupants-escape-as-building-collapses-in-lagos/

Erring owners.... 99% of most owners here served by LASBCA would continue to build instead of stopping the work to do the right thing. Prove me wrong!

And we say we are not in a rush? Read what one of una did in Apapa

Like Miami, Like Lagos State.

We build on water and expect nothing to happen?


________

Did Julius Build all those ancient mud houses in Ibadan that are still standing till date? All of us can't be mumu at the same time.

Well done sirs!

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Do we really have interior decorators who can make calm Finishing like this?

Because the interior decors i’ve been seeing in Nigeria, it’s either they make the interior too busy or flashy with dem gold painted accessories and co or they make it seem so bland.

Do we have interior decorators that can do something as calm and welcoming as this in Nigeria?

2) Can you also notice how the POPs ain’t all the busy? Just simple but exquisite! Not all these Flashy POPS and pattern pops, something simple but classy.

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In his words, "When we built with mud, everyone had a house." I think the major difference is that they built back in the days with common sense. There's better planning.

______
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next has a point to some extent. Some clients will want to cut corners by fire by force. If the contractor is not cutting corners they will fire him and opt for a cheaper alternative. Especially in Nigeria. Home owners will be moulding 60 blocks with a bag of cement. Home owners will engage different artisans just to cut cost, they will give block molding to every kamaru and Musa that is a Mallam good at digging wells only
Shebi it's just to mix sand and cement.
Musa can do it.

This happens daily.
Let ask our self.
How many home owners engage the services of structural engineers
How many.
We feel that's an extra spending. The bricklayer is enough he has Methuselah's experience in building.
You will see home owners building soooo close to roads.
When they know there is supposed to be a setback.
And let's not even say the engineers can decline the job
If he decline how he go take buy food for house.

This thing eeh
Everybody is responsible
Engineers, home owners, govt etc.
Everybody is cutting corners

I saw a video and I wanted to post it on here. But I was scared of anti spam bots.
The truck was on a high speed running over blocks.
The test is for armoured cars not blocks ooo
The pickup was legit running over them, and none of them broke
None

Greenarrow01:
next has a point to some extent. Some clients will want to cut corners by fire by force. If the contractor is not cutting corners they will fire him and opt for a cheaper alternative. Especially in Nigeria. Home owners will be moulding 60 blocks with a bag of cement. Home owners will engage different artisans just to cut cost, they will give block molding to every kamaru and Musa that is a Mallam good at digging wells only
Shebi it's just to mix sand and cement.
Musa can do it.

This happens daily.
Let ask our self.
How many home owners engage the services of structural engineers
How many.
We feel that's an extra spending. The bricklayer is enough he has Methuselah's experience in building.
You will see home owners building soooo close to roads.
When they know there is supposed to be a setback.
And let's not even say the engineers can decline the job
If he decline how he go take buy food for house.

This thing eeh
Everybody is responsible
Engineers, home owners, govt etc.
Everybody is cutting corners

Everybody, I agree completely.

Government is quick to blame every collapse on substandard materials and quackery but the question remains "Why is it that it's almost only during the rainy seasons that houses fall like pack of cards in Nigeria?" Why does it always happen in floodzones and not rampant in areas with solid ground like Abeokuta, Ibadan, Benin & Ondo? Abi, Abeokuta get more professional builders than Lagos?

We don't have to deny the obvious.

I have access the the list of registered contractors in Ogun State Contract Registry. More than 85% are from Lagos state.

________

Why is the government not talking about the Lagos State Drainage Masterplan. Or we think once water flood our streets and find its way into the ground, there are no consequences?

_________

Go and see many multi-million naira projects in Lagos sinking and already abandoned.

https://miro.medium.com/max/805/0*5Pmm93UFMfmf6IPc


___________
Eko Atlantic City

https://medium.com/@gokulullaskandanat/its-more-than-rising-seas-a-look-at-why-these-3-cities-are-sinking-7c57f1b6f19e

Climate change is changing the weather patterns throughout the world but a lot of the flooding issues faced by the country is due to lack of proper planning, illegal construction, and inadequate maintenance. Lagos isn’t so much sinking, but getting increasingly water-logged. The damp soil and improper construction are leading to buildings sinking, especially in poor neighborhoods where low lying mangroves and wetlands were reclaimed for construction.

n3xt:




Just as I shared earlier, where there are no standards I become the standard.

Setbacks act as buffers and protection against flash floods in my personal abode. I have large space for utilities. My fish pond alone is over half plot of land so space is not an issue for me.

In my own land use ordinance , setback is the minimum distance which my building must recede from the street or road, river, flood plain, or any other place which is deemed to need protection.

- The setback from my building to Lafarge Plant in Sagamu (where blasting activities occurs regularly) is about 1.8km.
- The setback from my building to the stream we recently dredged is over 50m
- The setback from my building to established beacons for the proposed Lagos-Calabar railway line (I heard there's realignment) is over 500m

One thing I can guarantee you is that if you dig my foundation this morning despite the heavy downpour in the week, you'll still find dry soil. I was intentional about my build. I don't have energy to fight and my mental health is important to me so I do what I got to do to prevent my kobokobo investment

________

That's why I went for cheap land in area where I can do anything I like without crying when I was going to make my decision to build.

Ahahaha, I like � your idea of don’t have energy to fight mine mental health especially when you’re getting old. Hummmm, that why you went that far from city center abi? Anyway it is well. I have both in city center and suburb, it’s different lifestyle, left for individual desired. I’m interested in the Lagos Calabar railway realignment story. Can you share more light on that, if you don’t mind?

Born2conquer:
Do we really have interior decorators who can make calm Finishing like this?

Because the interior decors i’ve been seeing in Nigeria, it’s either they make the interior too busy or flashy with dem gold painted accessories and co or they make it seem so bland.

Do we have interior decorators that can do something as calm and welcoming as this in Nigeria?

2) Can you also notice how the POPs ain’t all the busy? Just simple but exquisite! Not all these Flashy POPS and pattern pops, something simple but classy.

These are premium jobs for the pop we can… it has to be plaster board or platform to achieve that neatness… but better soup

kopell:
Ahahaha, I like � your idea of don’t have energy to fight mine mental health especially when you’re getting old. Hummmm, that why you went that far from city center abi? Anyway it is well. I have both in city center and suburb, it’s different lifestyle, left for individual desired. I’m interested in the Lagos Calabar railway realignment story. Can you share more light on that, if you don’t mind?

I inherited city center which has been converted to commercial. My fingers are still crossed on Lagos development for now. I got some lovely offers in Ibadan recently that I may consider over lagos sef. N35m for a 4 flat and 2 flat building in a very good location is a good deal.
I'd just facelift and start getting N4 - N5m per annum.

_______

I shared some stuffs on the railway on 2016 on this thread. I think they're still very relevant even though the project seems very slow.

Lagos & Ogun Rail Lines, Ogun Intracity Rail Network and Interstates & Intracity Rail Lines: https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/285#46220837

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Good response and insight. I wanted to know how long after wood work is done , should I install my roofing sheet . Roofing sheet already bought and ready for use . Some people say wait 28 days to install roofing sheet . I needed more ideas . Thanks

diordaves:


Hard wood can resist weather conditions for a considerable length of time beyond 28 days when truly dried.

There are two challenges roofing woods will have in this situation. One, the woods may not have dried properly before use, so there's the danger of warping before sheet installation if left for too long. A second challenge is the points at which nails penetrated the woods. The 'wounds' the nails created. Persistent rain water may penetrate the wounds leading to rot.

If you are having this challenge, look for a wood preservative and apply on the woods. You should be good for up to a year depending on the quality. A good quality wood preservative will prevent too rapid drying leading to warping and rain water resistant.

There should be wood preservative in Nigeria or talk to paint manufacturers like gbadexy. I'm sure they should be able to knock up something for a half decent price. Wood preservatives are bible for wooden structures in the US and UK even for raw untreated wood lasting for years in snow, rain and sun.

I just finish making some numbers of blocks before this benin rain started. It has been raining for hours now and refuse to stop. Please hope this doesn’t affect the blocks Any experience from anyone. ?? Scared I might have just wasted money

Nosa111:
I just finish making some numbers of blocks before this benin rain started. It has been raining for hours now and refuse to stop. Please hope this doesn’t affect the blocks Any experience from anyone. ?? Scared I might have just wasted money

From experience, rainy season is not the best time to DIY in construction.
I’m afraid the blocks may not come out well

Nosa111:
I just finish making some numbers of blocks before this benin rain started. It has been raining for hours now and refuse to stop. Please hope this doesn’t affect the blocks Any experience from anyone. ?? Scared I might have just wasted money

This is why I always recommend buying blocks from trusted sources like Prudence Blocks in Ibadan.

To do your own blocks while cheaper is stressful and you need to be up on your hand.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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EgunMogaji2:


This is why I always recommend buying blocks from trusted sources like Prudence Blocks in Ibadan.

To do your own blocks while cheaper is stressful and you need to be up on your hand.

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Enyinne:
Good response and insight. I wanted to know how long after wood work is done , should I install my roofing sheet . Roofing sheet already bought and ready for use . Some people say wait 28 days to install roofing sheet . I needed more ideas . Thanks

I can't stop laughing at this.
Why waiting for days before covering the woods?
Roofing is always instantaneous.
Well, I don't know the school of thought of your advisers.

Greenarrow01:
next has a point to some extent. Some clients will want to cut corners by fire by force. If the contractor is not cutting corners they will fire him and opt for a cheaper alternative. Especially in Nigeria. Home owners will be moulding 60 blocks with a bag of cement. Home owners will engage different artisans just to cut cost, they will give block molding to every kamaru and Musa that is a Mallam good at digging wells only
Shebi it's just to mix sand and cement.
Musa can do it.

This happens daily.
Let ask our self.
How many home owners engage the services of structural engineers
How many.
We feel that's an extra spending. The bricklayer is enough he has Methuselah's experience in building.
You will see home owners building soooo close to roads.
When they know there is supposed to be a setback.
And let's not even say the engineers can decline the job
If he decline how he go take buy food for house.

This thing eeh
Everybody is responsible
Engineers, home owners, govt etc.
Everybody is cutting corners

Concerning the issues of corner cutting. We are living in a corruption invested society, therefore, there is room for such.
My advice to everyone handling a building project is to do such project excellently, it should be done the way it must be done.
Building construction is different from other professions.
A building harbours all and sundry, it is one of the basic needs of man. Let's do our building projects properly.
It is not because of today ooooo, it's for the sake of tomorrow.

n3xt:


Resolved.

How did you handle the SARS people working in LIRS?
My client pay Tax in FCT and LASG is pushing another XX million for ordinary small duplex.

For those who recently file for building permit/planning permission in Lagos, how did you handle double taxation?

Cutting corner is not an option here.

Thanks.

All you need do is get the tax clearance certificate from Abuja and give it to them. I got the same thing when I processed mine because I worked offshore for a while even when still having Lagos as residence. Company remitted taxes to a ND state. I just got the tax clearance and gave it to LIRS and they cleared me.