rainluv:


Because they are in same Christendom
You keep asking questions like a layman no wonder you are so quick to be brainwashed

brainwashed by the bible right? Because I am replying you scripturally not based on any pastor.
I am not into emotional talk but what the bible says

Is it now they know that religion cause hatred? Am organization that says only their members will have the privilege of attaining heaven and see the creator of the universe, and others will go to hell, what is that?
From history perspective, religion has caused most wars in the world, and is till causing up till now.

cybriz82:




Seriuosly bro.my dad is an engineer n was among those that build d church..according to my dad he said tb no like make him workers dey collect money frm foreigners...even if na dash..

yes it is a known truth . He fought someone because he collected money from Oyakhilome when he sent him to Oyakhilome church on one of their arranged miracle in which according to the person Oyakhilome didn't know sef. It was when he was with TB joshua claiming TB has his father in the lord.
The story is much sef

Babinski:


The desperation of some of you TB Joshua apologists is appalling!

Even if they believe TBJ is a demon from the pit of hell, atleast a common condolence to the wife and family the Deceased left behind would have gone a long way to lead them through to the right path and to show-case that example of LOVE which is the very essence of the Christian faith.

Haba! Can you imagine a Christian stating the above and feeling comfortable saying it? What has light got to do with darkness? So if a Babalawo or Juju man dies now, CAN or PFN should pay condolence visit to show love?! Haaa!

As you are going, you would even ask God to send condolence message to Satan when Satan loses some of his disciples and demons just to show what you label as LOVE!!!

Not just appalling..they have become more of a useless nuisance spaming threads with rubbish talk with the sole goal of sowing and spreading discord, as though that's what their mentor stands for. Like is Christianity about TB Joshua or what? Very annoying set of folks.

rainluv:


Mention one prophet from the Bible that was baptized?
Teach me

I mentioned dispensation. Mention one prophet after the death and resurrection of jesus that wasn't baptized

rainluv:


Yet testimonies flew from all countries in the entire WORLD WIDE!!
It can pain sha

show me one genuine one and that the person didn't refute it after leaving the church...
I am serious.
Just one.
I am challenging you.
A testimony outside of tb joshua church

youngpresidooo:
the bible talk about by their fruit you shall know them.
Bible talk about testing all spirits.
See my first acceptance of you being a christian is if you can give me a testimony of how you gave your life to christ. It doesn't come by birth it comes by conviction with an experience that you can never forget.
I don't dispute the fact that you might backslide but it doesn't change the fact that you have accepted Christ once in your life and will still come back to christ.
But not that you never did .. haba.
See no matter what Fatoyinbo does, bad I see it as maybe he backslided but not that he is not a christian because he has a testimony of how he gave his life to christ. So it is left for him to hold on to the faith but he is in the body of christ.
But Tb joshua doesn't have a testimony

So if I concoct a story on how I gave my life to Christ, you will automatic believe?

You are so gullible!

Sunsets:
Let's assume all you said is true. At death, his family deserves to perish? Not even, "sorry children. We may not agree on religious issues, take heart that your dad had to die"
This is barefaced hatred. If Bubu dies today, of course they'll fall over themselves to publicly sympathize with the family. Nonsense.

show me where adeboye sent condolence to Ajumobi

rainluv:


Mention one prophet from the Bible that was baptized?
Teach me

I think if the old testament has been our guide, I am very sure that you must have been killed by now because of things you must have done wrong.. Jesus is our perfect example that we follow.. If it's not necessary, christ wouldn't had submitted himself to be baptized by John. And Christ is greater than all these prophets together.

cybriz82:



When goodluck jonathan rule everybody was happy cus d man got nothing aginst corruptin so na chop I chop...do u think they will b happy for buhari wey dey block Der way to chop? What if na d same reasons those people lockd up on tb cus he no give dem free pass to chop I chop

chop what?

If it's about chop Everyman get his followers and congregation

rainluv:


Mention one prophet from the Bible that gave his life to Christ?

mention one prophet after the death and resurrection of jesus that didn't give his life to christ.
We literally don't understand what born again mean

oprah007:


You are not a Redeemer sir/ma. You are a redeemed member of RCCG. Jesus Christ is the Redeemer. Stay blessed

I don't mean it that way

It's just a short description ie I am a winner for winners chapel etc

authority2006:


Just look at yourself! Firstly you asked how true is the statement? Then, the next line you proffered solution that whoever feel cheated should head for the exit door. Is that how you build a just society or organisation?

calm down. I'm a CEO of a company. You were a subordinate, maybe a lower ranked staff. So you came up with an idea of how to make the company more profitable. The CEO rejected your idea, saying its not in line with company vision and will therefore not be adopted. You left the company, started your business in line with your idea and made a fortune.
If you feel your growth is being managed and limited in the church you attend, simply because your ideas are not being considered. It would be wise to leave the church and run with your vision and no one would judge you. Most of these pastors were members of other churches before they LEFT to start their own ministry. At least Kumuyi left Apostolic Faith to start Deeper Life for the very same reason: his ideas were frustrated and was at some point publicly called out and disgraced. Today, he can't blame Apostolic Faith for not allowing him grow.... FOR HE GREW!
If the church adopted every idea and every vision, there will be confusion and chaos in the church. Every man with his calling.

rainluv:


So if I concoct a story on how I gave my life to Christ, you will automatic believe?

You are so gullible!

You're the gullible one here sir and you don't seem to understand what Salvation is all about.

youngpresidooo:
brainwashed by the bible right? Because I am replying you scripturally not based on any pastor.
I am not into emotional talk but what the bible says

And I also remember the Bible telling us not to judge
Is that page missing from your Bible?

Sunsets:
Of course, they always do. Especially where their level reach. They do. This is pathetic. This is not Christ. I am not a SCOAN member. I am a certified Winners member but this is outrightly unChristian.

please back it up with links

milann:
you just took side indirectly

No I didn't

I leave the spiritual stuff i can't see to God

But if a man of spirituality says he is under attack by a certain suspect you also look at it from that angle

That is not envy that is not hate, that is stating his encounter to his own spiritual children who already follow him

It wasn't said granting media interview or tweeted as a view

youngpresidooo:
I mentioned dispensation. Mention one prophet after the death and resurrection of jesus that wasn't baptized

I asked you a question and you are throwing it back at me

bezimo:


The church of God is not a satanic cult where if you leave, your life is not "safe" again because you will be attacked for leaving. Liberty is synonymous to the Spirit of God..not bondage.

Everything about the kingdom of God functions on your will..giving..prayer..holiness etc. That's why it's stated "only if ye be willing..."
We as Christians are expected to use our will to align with his will as stated in the Bible.

It is not by force to do anything for anything.
As a matter of truth..Its stated in the Bible that what you do by force has no reward.

it is even a sin. The bible says anything done out of faith is a sin

Ladies and gentlemen, get ready for some talks from Nigeria pastors this week

lookingfly:
I don't want to call names but you should be able to see a video on YouTube of a Nigerian mog that made those comments.

You're so quick to believed any nonsense about pastor Adeboye that it didn't occur to you that you watched a manipulated video done by some mischievous makers just to promote their unholy agenda. Bro God will have mercy on u. But the said video is edited. You guys should learn to make some deep findings before supporting what you know Nada about.

youngpresidooo:
show me one genuine one and that the person didn't refute it after leaving the church...
I am serious.
Just one.
I am challenging you.
A testimony outside of tb joshua church

Buhahahahaha
Many,I mean Many

My bro in law
My sis
My neighbors
So many personal people I know

Next?

milann:
do you know christianity started from peter.

lolzzz nayy it started after the death and resurrection of christ. The name christians was given by unbelievers in antioch. It might not have name before then in antioch but it existed after the death and resurrection of christ and when the holy ghost came on them In jerusalem to be precise

damocool:

You're the gullible one here sir and you don't seem to understand what Salvation is all about.

Okay
So we must all have same salvation?
Lecture me

And mention prophets too from the Bible that got salvation?

kevoh:

It doesn't mean you are wrong. Galileo was nearly killed for having a heliocentric belief that the earth revolved around the sun against the popular belief.

Even when those who supposedly choose to give you the benefit of the doubt ie oyakhilome then later realize others are correct

Mind you this is not about a believe or perspective of someone it's about what is generally prescribed i.e Christ defined the fruits of a Christian

So if a man is using fetish stuff washing it inside water giving congregation to buy etc that doesn't mean because only he have that perspective so it must be the way Jesus said

georgeakins:



The main reason is that they all envy him, period.

There is no pastor in Nigeria today that is as popular as TB Joshua Worldwide .

They believe because they have some empty university degrees that TB Joshua should not be greater than them

Na you dey imagine all these things baba.

damocool:

I think if the old testament has been our guide, I am very sure that you must have been killed by now because of things you must have done wrong.. Jesus is our perfect example that we follow.. If it's not necessary, christ wouldn't had submitted himself to be baptized by John. And Christ is greater than all these prophets together.

Still didn't answer the question

youngpresidooo:
for that I have been careful to lay emphasis on that if you follow my discussion. But indirectly or directly you must have learn maybe by reading books or anything.
But that is not what I am talking about.
What I am saying is that was TB joshua ever born again?
He hasnt been able to say yes to this till he died. He only said he was born again from his mother womb which negates God's word....
He has to be born again to lead people to christ. How will you lead people to who you don't know?
He never gave his life to christ based on his testimony

What I see here is that his way of life simply did not go in alignment with theirs hence the criticisms and "fake prophet" tag he suffered. By the way, I find it annoying asking another person if they are born again and still go as far as asking who ordained them. It's a lame question that I also find repulsive

Okay, assuming he gave a pleasing answer, does that change anything? Was that a validation that he was a real pastor?

If at all it is true that TB Joshua is demonic and using juju to propagate his ministry as people claim then I'm in support of that kind of juju

The juju that will make a man philanthropic to the aged , blind, lame, widows, orphans and mentally deranged people. The juju that made someone give hope to the hopeless, scholarships to the poor, job to the jobless, food to the needy and gave out transformers to remote villages

See ehn, humanity is the greatest religion, so if someone is using juju to practice humanity, I'm in support of that juju

There are just numerous ways to preach Christianity than building the largest auditorium or having a branch in every nooks and crannies of the street

youngpresidooo:
mention one prophet after the death and resurrection of jesus that didn't give his life to christ.
We literally don't understand what born again mean

Exactly sir . TB death really exposed us about understanding of what born again mean

rainluv:


So if I concoct a story on how I gave my life to Christ, you will automatic believe?

You are so gullible!

it is between you and God bro..
And it is left for me to test your spirit.
But at least you confessed with your mouth that you had an encounter.
Born again involves confessing with your mouth and believe in your heart

rainluv:


And I also remember the Bible telling us not to judge
Is that page missing from your Bible?

but the bible can judge right.
If I tell you this is what the bible says and you are going against it and you feel it is been judgemental fine .
I am not the one judging you but God's word