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| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by franklytrue(m): 12:17am On Jul 12, 2021 |
BnQoyyim:Jesus Christ is the Lord and Saviour of all men specially of those that believe. (1 Tim. 4:10). For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. - Luke 19:10 Men have called him Lord throughout his time on earth and the ages, and will still call him Lord in eternity. He did also declared himself the Lord, the light of the world, the way, the truth and the life. He is the soon coming King, whose kingdom is not of this world. Do you believe? Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Matthew 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? John 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am. John 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world. 2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Greenerie(f): 12:17am On Jul 12, 2021 |
[I answered u, flesh decays,spirit body goes to spirit world, esoteric mysteries can also be found in d Bible after all Satan was in heaven with God before being chased out.im tired of typing.wish nairaland has a voice note. arequote author=Barristter07 post=103594245] Are you now trying to tell me your famous evangelist is lying? This is why I Quoted you , you said below " That man is a famous evangelist over here.I believe him because his experience matches the word of God,whats in the Bible . " Now I asked a question and you are now matching it with esoteric mysteries. Did you say his experience matches bible or esoteric mysteries ? If it's bible , why can't you provide where the Bible said human body go to hell at death ? [/quote] |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Greenerie(f): 12:19am On Jul 12, 2021 |
U have a spirit body just the way we have dust body which drops behind in death. .. Kobojunkie: |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by themanderon: 12:48am On Jul 12, 2021 |
kingxsamz:You can mock, laugh and jest at his stories but I guarantee you you wont be doing these things when the reality dawns on you if you do not repent. Whatever you may think you have in this world and whatever you may be enjoying today is nothing but vanity and vexation of spirit. One day you will wake up in a different reality where you will give account of all your deeds in this world. Yourself and all those others that liked your post. We all came from somewhere and after our sojourn on this earth we are heading back to give account whether you like it or not. |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by BnQoyyim(m): 12:53am On Jul 12, 2021 |
franklytrue:These are all quotations devoid of truth. You're yet to site a word from the horse mouth. My question is show me where Jesus himself declared that He's the Lord and savior. Luke 6:46 "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" Based on your citation above, can you deducts that Jesus is vehemently repudiating lordship, no self-acclaimed of lordship and saviour from the Jesus himself. |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 1:00am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Greenerie:Yes or no. Did Jesus Christ lie when He declared that no one would be sent back from the dead to warn the living in Luke 16 vs 19 - 31. ![]() |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by CanadaCars(m): 3:06am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Righteousness2:YOU GUYS WILL NEVER STOP DECEIVING PEOPLE WITH THIS FEAR MONGERING UNSCRITURAL TEACHINGS. HELL FIRE DOCTRINE DOES NOT HAVE ANY BASIS IN THE SCRIPTURES. IT HAS ITS ROOT IN PAGAN BELIEF THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO CHRISTIANITY. |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Authenticbiz(m): 8:03am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:OK.... How then do you explain Jesus story of "Lazarus and the rich man" if according to you, no one is in hell? I no argue o o. I just want to understand |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Nobody: 8:14am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Luke 17: 20-21 |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Authenticbiz(m): 8:15am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Femmyfestus:He is just rebuking them. There is nothing wrong in that. Love that doesn't rebuke error is not genuine. God himself said "As many as I love, I chastise/rebuke". That's how life goes bro |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Authenticbiz(m): 8:27am On Jul 12, 2021 |
austel:If according to you, there is no hell, so Jesus lied about all his teachings on God's final judgement, separation of the sheep from goats, gathering the wheats and tars ....and so many others? Abeg explain better bro. I wan learn..I no argue |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Stanleyq: 9:38am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Snitch24:Is this Ur problem with religion? |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by damiloladuke: 9:43am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Blakjewelry:Abeg, I get more important things to bother myself about |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by franklytrue(m): 10:41am On Jul 12, 2021 |
BnQoyyim:All those quotations are devoid of truth? What is the truth then? Did you see clearly also those ones in bold previously? Jesus said: "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost." - Luke 19:10 "If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet." - John 13:14 "For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village." - Luke 9:56 "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." - John 3:17 "But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved." -John 5:34 "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." - John 10:9 "And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world." - John 12:47 What does a Saviour do? He saves. Jesus came to save us from our sins and its eternal consequences. *** "You tread on my toe and I forgive you, you steal my money and I forgive you. But what should we make of a man, himself unrobbed and untrodden on, who announced that he forgave you for treading on other men's toes and stealing other men's money? Asinine fatuity is the kindest description we should give of his conduct. Yet this is what Jesus did. He told people that their sins were forgiven, and never waited to consult all the other people whom their sins had undoubtedly injured. He unhesitatingly behaved as if He was the party chiefly concerned, the person chiefly offended in all offences. This makes sense only if He really was the God whose laws are broken and whose love is wounded in every sin. In the mouth of any speaker who is not God, these words would imply what I can only regard as a silliness and conceit unrivalled by any other character in history. Yet (and this is the strange, significant thing) even His enemies, when they read the Gospels, do not usually get the impression of silliness and conceit. Still less do unprejudiced readers. Christ says that He is "humble and meek" and we believe Him; not noticing that, if He were merely a man, humility and meekness are the very last characteristics we could attribute to some of His sayings. I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God." That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to." (Lewis Clive Staples – Mere Christianity.) - ***copied from the book "Mere Christianity" by C. S. Lewis. |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by PrincewithGod(m): 11:45am On Jul 12, 2021 |
Blakjewelry:The earth could be but you won't, you will die at some point in time, then this reality will hit you but it will b too late for repentance. |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Blakjewelry(m): 12:34pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
PrincewithGod:Lol I look forward to that, btw when you die you are going to another religions' hell anyway |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Blakjewelry(m): 12:35pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
damiloladuke:So it means you haven't the time to go through your entire Bible? I advise you to try |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 12:50pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Authenticbiz:1. According to Jesus Christ, there is no one in Heaven or Hell - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 . In John 5 and using the parable of the 10 brides, Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13, Jesus Christ teaches you that those who are dead in Jesus Christ will remain asleep in their graves until He returns to raise them from the dead and judge their works. ![]() 2. Using the parable of Lazarus and the Richman, Luke 16 vs 19 - 31 , Jesus Christ warned you that no one would be sent back from the dead to warn you of what is to come. He did that to ensure you pay no attention to people like this man here who claims he has been to hell and back. ![]() |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 12:52pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
TripleOh7:The Kingdom of God is not Heaven though... Heaven is a domain inside of it and so also is Hell. ![]() |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:You are still reiterating my point. I said heaven is within us and then you say heaven is within the kingdom of God which is within us. Logically isn't heaven therefore within us? |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 1:31pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
TripleOh7:Let's take a look at this from the Netherverse... * From the parable of the Wheat and Tares, we learn that the sons of the devil also belong in the Kingdom of God. ![]() * If the Kingdom of God is within the Sons of God (the wheat) implies that Heaven is within them, does this also mean that Heaven is also within those who are Sons of the devil( the tares)? ![]() |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Nobody: 1:43pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:So, here's the issue. You are grouping humans into sons of God and sons of devil. In other words, you are saying some are good and some are bad. You need to understand that there's no human on earth that's all good or all bad. Within every human, there is God and there's devil. When we die, we will all spend time in hell and in heaven before facing our next destiny which might be reincarnation on this earth, reincarnation on another earth like planet, reincarnation on a lower plane or promotion to a higher plane. The length of time we spend in either "hell" or "heaven" is dependent upon the amount of time we spend doing good or bad in this incarnation. When the Bible refers to some people as sons of God, it is either referring to extraterrestrial beings or we humans because we are all created in the image and likeness of God. It isn't only Jesus who is a son of God. We all are. And that's the essence of the "Good News". |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 1:53pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
TripleOh7:1. I didn't do the grouping, Jesus Christ did. I simply went along with the example He gave us in His own Parable - Luke 13 ![]() 2. We all spend time in Heaven and Hell, and Reincarnation? Sounds like you and I are not even operating with the same deck of cards here so it is likely this conversation is headed nowhere. ![]() |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by BnQoyyim(m): 2:22pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
franklytrue:Is Jesus God or Son of God? Pious mn are called sons of God, Isreal nation are reffered to as the son of God, Solomon is reffered to as the son of God, Angels are reffered to as the son of God in the bibles. What a a double standard! What a contradictions! Anyway, here are among the thousand contradictions in the Bibles: Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24: ![]() (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24: ![]() (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? (a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23: ![]() (b) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11) When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after? (a) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6) (b) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14) How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? (a) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20) (b) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9) When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture? (a) One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4) (b) Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4) How many stalls for horses did Solomon have? (a) Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26) (b) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25) In what year of King Asa’s reign did Baasha, King of Israel die? (a) Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 – 16: ![]() (b) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1) How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple? (a) Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2) (b) Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16) Solomon built a facility containing how many baths? (a) Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26) (b) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5) Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab? (a) Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6) (b) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11) How many were the children of Zattu? (a) Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2: ![]() (b) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13) How many were the children of Azgad? (a) One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12) (b) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17) How many were the children of Adin? (a) Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15) (b) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20) How many were the children of Hashum? (a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19) (b) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22) How many were the children of Bethel and Ai? (a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28) (b) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32) Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows: (a) 29,818 (Ezra) (b) 31,089 (Nehemiah) How many singers accompanied the assembly? (a) Two hundred (Ezra 2:65) (b) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67) What was the name of King Abijah’s mother? (a) Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2) (b) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27) Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem? (a) Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40) (b) No (Joshua 15:63) Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? (a) Jacob (Matthew 1:16) (b) Hell (Luke 3:23) Jesus descended from which son of David? (a) Solomon (Matthew 1:6) (b) Nathan(Luke3:31) Who was the father of Shealtiel? (a) Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12) (b) Neri’ (Luke 3:27) Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ? (a) Abiud (Matthew 1: 13) (b) Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway. Who was the father of Uzziah? (a) Joram (Matthew 1: ![]() (b) Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1) |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by franklytrue(m): 5:00pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
BnQoyyim:Jesus is the Omnipresent God manifested in flesh; the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Jer. 23:24, Isaiah 9:6-7, Matt. 1:23, John 1:1-14, Col. 1:15-19, Heb. 1:1-9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Rev. 1:8-11; ch 21:5-7; ch 22:12-16) So after noting some dissimilarities or what seems like, have you also pointed out the accuracies of the scripture? 'The people who always find what they are looking for in life are the fault finders.' - (quote). They can also find fault with God. Now what is the point you are driving at with all these references?
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| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Snitch24(m): 7:40pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
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| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Snitch24(m): 7:41pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Stanleyq:What we see as religion now was once a culture It's just a way of life not a guarantee entrance to life after death |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 7:50pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Snitch24:God intended the Sabbath as a day of rest from work that involved your chasing after your daily bread, not a day to "worship" Him as you folks do in your churches today, or as the Jews did back in their synagogues during the time of Jesus Christ. ![]() The idea to "worship" God on the Sabbath, did not come from God but from men. ![]() |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Snitch24(m): 8:30pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:So what are you implying ? |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by DisLifeSha: 8:33pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Just lock up. You don't know the bible Kobojunkie: |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 8:34pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
Snitch24:Your "worship" of God are not commanded of God and so do not honor God in anyway or form. ![]() God is only honored by our obedience of Him and so the kind of worship that honors God is continual submission to and obedience of the teachings and commands of Jesus Christ, God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. ![]() |
| Re: Bill Wiese: 'I Died & Went To Hell' (23 Questions About Hell) by Kobojunkie: 8:36pm On Jul 12, 2021 |
DisLifeSha:Are you sure I am the one who does not know the bible? I ask because according to Jesus Christ, judgment will only happen after He returns, not before - Matthew 25 vs 31- 46 & John 5 vs 19 - 29 ![]() |
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