₦airaland Forum

GodHatesBigots:
Why ? Because I refuse to be part of IPOB ? Is IPOB the only way to Biafra ?

Clear off bro !!!

GodHatesBigots:
November 12th, 1987.

Throwback:
The scales are falling gradually.

No problem with wanting secession and pursuing it by lobbying the polical leadership of the people or assuming political leadership by transitioning from a lobby group into a political party or aligning with a political party to accomplish the goal.

Only IPOB within the global sphere, is deluded that a lobby group that has become a terrorist organisation, can force its will on a people that already have democratic representation and a constitutional leadership.

Scotland in UK, Catalonia in Spain, Kurds in Iraq, all have their secession ambitions led by the recognised and constitutional political leadership of the people.

What amuses me now is that the terrorist is begging to be accorded his human rights. The same human rights he deprived Senator Ekweremadu in Germany.

Ifearnoevil:
IPOB a terrorist organization?
Can the head of known terrorist organizations like al queda,ISIS,ISWAp,Boko Haram,fulani herdsmen,be resident in a western City like London and be broadcasting from the same city with know residential and business address?
Do you see the problem with you Nigerians and why Nigeria will never get better,you know the truth but somehow choose to believe your lie

onumadu:
The problem with people who want to turn public opinion against IPOB is that they tend to run on false premises or outright lies, and that defeats their mission.

Did you say that before IPOB there were no killings on a "massive scale" in Igboland?

(1) Who killed the people discovered at Ezu river? How many corpses were recovered there?

(2) Before IPOB, how many MASSOB activists were gunned down just because they came out to march?

(3) Before now, and even till date, how many IPOBs were killed just for marching or holding Biafran flags? In a single incident reported by Amnesty International, 150 innocent IPOBs were killed during Operation Python Dance.

(4) How many times have Igbo been killed by Fulani herdsmen in their own ancestral lands, and where was your indignation about those crimes?

(5) Didn't the Yoruba just march in Lagos and other parts of South West for Oduduwa republic, and how many of them were mowed down by police and army?

(6) Didn't some airforce persons just gun down IGBO TRADERS at Ladipo market? Would they have gunned down Hausa, Fulani or Yoruba traders in like manner?

(7) Why can't Igbo youths march in Igboland or anywhere in Nigeria just to make a political point?

All these questions (and of course you cannot answer them honestly) show that you have your morality and sense of right and wrong skewed against your own people (if you are Igbo).
But Igbo people are very smart (perhaps the smartest of black people) and so can easily see through your false indignation.
The issue for us Igbo is NOT IPOB. The issue is SURVIVAL and DIGNITY.
And we MUST get both either inside Nigeria or in Biafra, most likely Biafra.

gidgiddy:
Igbos such as my self, who want the independence of our people, are not doing it just because of killer herdsmen. Nigeria is not working, it has failed. Its time for us to try something else.

Nobody has shown any proof that ESN are the unknown gunmen, only speculation.

One thing that amuses me is how the South East is treated in relation to other areas. All the insecurity in the South East is not up to what is happening in in Buhari's home state where hundreds of people are being killed, kidnapped and raped every week. You dont see the security forces running around there trying to catch the bandits, rather, you have Governor Masari, running around posing for pictures with armed terrorists

The Northerners even put N100M on Kanu's head, even though there is no IPOB in the North. But they have nit put one Kobo on Shekau's head, or the head of any of the bandits all over the North

One Nigeria indeed! We are not one and never been

gidgiddy:
Igbos such as my self, who want the independence of our people, are not doing it just because of killer herdsmen. Nigeria is not working, it has failed. Its time for us to try something else.

Throwback:
The scales are falling gradually.

No problem with wanting secession and pursuing it by lobbying the polical leadership of the people or assuming political leadership by transitioning from a lobby group into a political party or aligning with a political party to accomplish the goal.

Only IPOB within the global sphere, is deluded that a lobby group that has become a terrorist organisation, can force its will on a people that already have democratic representation and a constitutional leadership.

Scotland in UK, Catalonia in Spain, Kurds in Iraq, all have their secession ambitions led by the recognised and constitutional political leadership of the people.

What amuses me now is that the terrorist is begging to be accorded his human rights. The same human rights he deprived Senator Ekweremadu in Germany.

louqas:
And i always ask , why didnt you do all these in 16 years of frolicking with PDP?
Nigeria was working because an ibo woman is finance minister abi?
Nigeria was working when Soludo was CBN governor abi?
i repeat your agitation is borne out of greed....its because you are sore losers thats why you want to scatter the country because your candidate lost.
Hypocrite
If Nigeria was not working how come your tribesmen have become wealthy in Nigeria that is not working,.....you always tell us how you turned £20 to multi billions IN NIGERIA THAT IS NOT WORKING

blues234:
IPOB is a big problem to ndi Igbo, no joke. If Igbos don't wake up to reality, it may be too late soon..

esnbrutality:
So says ..an almajiri....The OP used reverse psychology on you miscreants and its working...spits!

durangokid:
You are being silly you registered November 2020

amuwo1980:
More like ur date of birth fake man, playing games

udele1:
Can a registered radio station in Nigeria setup a security outfit in Uk and arm them with AK 47 without licence? Sending them to kill, open the prisons and release criminals?

GodHatesBigots:
As a well educated person of a certain mature age, I want to confess my shame in defending some of the actions of IPOB and MNK on this forum and it has caused me a level of exasperation.

You see, I only started to listen to MKN about February this year and was immediately caught up in the logic behind his clamour for Biafra. I was so caught up with his stirring speeches that his invectives, insults, threats, boasting, clamouring and deadly plans caught me unawares. However, I kept listening and was proud of how he rattled the cage of the Nigerian FG.

However, the insults and threats became even more desperate, brazen, and daring and I cringed at some of the pronouncements he made, which included the capturing of certain people and the murder of their children anywhere in the world. That did it for me, and I knew belonging to IPOB was impossible and contributing money was ruled out. Why? Because when you contribute your hard earned money to groups like IPOB and they buy bullets to kill, the blood of those who were killed is partly your fault.

Why am I ashamed? Because , from a position of tribal rivalry and the marginalisation of Igbos I have been stupidly defending IPOB on this forum in terms of their right for self-determination and secession from Nigeria despite the clear path to war and blood shed that they had laid out. My conscience can no more allow me to continue on this path and I now have to come out to totally denounce the antics and methods of MNK and IPOB.

These are my reasons.

1. With IPOB there is no room for dissent, I have lost followers on twitter and elsewhere, and been subject to abuse for having difference of opinion

2. Before IPOB we had lots of problems in Igbo land, but never blood shed on this massive scale, we cannot allow this continue, it must be halted.

3. IPOB propaganda is demeaning and degrading and, in many cases, laughable

4. MNK's plan before he was caught was to turn the South East into a war zone so that CNN, BBC and other major news organisations will take notice and create awareness for Biafra.

5. MNK was willingly to sacrifice all our Youth for Biafra. Meanwhile he is not their father or mother and does not seem to understand that they are human beings who have a future.

6. ESN was supposed to be in the bush, but they came out and committed wanton and random killings of our security forces many of whom were Igbo , and pretended not to be UGM

7. MNK was stubborn, almost arrogant and refused to take advice from many of his supporters. Anyone who had a difference of opinion was shut down

8. IPOB made enemies not allies. They are crude in their approach and need to be totally transformed if they want to be taken seriously.

9. MNK’s reference to Fulani people as dirty desert dwellers is unbecoming of an elder and person with a reasonable level of education, more so because of his exposure to life in the UK. We have problems with Fulani Herdsmen and Fulani politicians, but the Fulanis are not a dirty desert dwellers, they are our African brother and sisters.

10. MNK’s abuse of blacks as subhuman and stupid, was totally out of order and self-defeating. We are not subhuman; we are human beings who are victims of circumstances.

11. I am afraid that MNK and IPOB have radicalised a large number of our youth in their 20s and early 30s and they may pose a danger to the stability of the South East. Our governors and leaders must reach out to them to integrate them back into society and make them productive.

I can go on and on, but I will stop here.

In summary, I can no longer agree with IPOB, they must either change their ways or be put out of existence. We need more stable, calculated, measured and strategic voices and leaders to come out and support.

We still want Biafra and we will achieve it through less violent and more intelligent methods. But if Nigeria changes for the better we will also support Nigeria.

Thank You.

adadike:
welcome big brother welcome. Oya pick your number , we need to know the number of reasonable Igbos on this forum.

louqas:
And i always ask , why didnt you do all these in 16 years of frolicking with PDP?
Nigeria was working because an ibo woman is finance minister abi?
Nigeria was working when Soludo was CBN governor abi?
i repeat your agitation is borne out of greed....its because you are sore losers thats why you want to scatter the country because your candidate lost.
Hypocrite
If Nigeria was not working how come your tribesmen have become wealthy in Nigeria that is not working,.....you always tell us how you turned £20 to multi billions IN NIGERIA THAT IS NOT WORKING

GodHatesBigots:
As a well educated person of a certain mature age, I want to confess my shame in defending some of the actions of IPOB and MNK on this forum and it has caused me a level of exasperation.

You see, I only started to listen to MKN about February this year and was immediately caught up in the logic behind his clamour for Biafra. I was so caught up with his stirring speeches that his invectives, insults, threats, boasting, clamouring and deadly plans caught me unawares. However, I kept listening and was proud of how he rattled the cage of the Nigerian FG.

However, the insults and threats became even more desperate, brazen, and daring and I cringed at some of the pronouncements he made, which included the capturing of certain people and the murder of their children anywhere in the world. That did it for me, and I knew belonging to IPOB was impossible and contributing money was ruled out. Why? Because when you contribute your hard earned money to groups like IPOB and they buy bullets to kill, the blood of those who were killed is partly your fault.

Why am I ashamed? Because , from a position of tribal rivalry and the marginalisation of Igbos I have been stupidly defending IPOB on this forum in terms of their right for self-determination and secession from Nigeria despite the clear path to war and blood shed that they had laid out. My conscience can no more allow me to continue on this path and I now have to come out to totally denounce the antics and methods of MNK and IPOB.

These are my reasons.

1. With IPOB there is no room for dissent, I have lost followers on twitter and elsewhere, and been subject to abuse for having difference of opinion

2. Before IPOB we had lots of problems in Igbo land, but never blood shed on this massive scale, we cannot allow this continue, it must be halted.

3. IPOB propaganda is demeaning and degrading and, in many cases, laughable

4. MNK's plan before he was caught was to turn the South East into a war zone so that CNN, BBC and other major news organisations will take notice and create awareness for Biafra.

5. MNK was willingly to sacrifice all our Youth for Biafra. Meanwhile he is not their father or mother and does not seem to understand that they are human beings who have a future.

6. ESN was supposed to be in the bush, but they came out and committed wanton and random killings of our security forces many of whom were Igbo , and pretended not to be UGM

7. MNK was stubborn, almost arrogant and refused to take advice from many of his supporters. Anyone who had a difference of opinion was shut down

8. IPOB made enemies not allies. They are crude in their approach and need to be totally transformed if they want to be taken seriously.

9. MNK’s reference to Fulani people as dirty desert dwellers is unbecoming of an elder and person with a reasonable level of education, more so because of his exposure to life in the UK. We have problems with Fulani Herdsmen and Fulani politicians, but the Fulanis are not a dirty desert dwellers, they are our African brother and sisters.

10. MNK’s abuse of blacks as subhuman and stupid, was totally out of order and self-defeating. We are not subhuman; we are human beings who are victims of circumstances.

11. I am afraid that MNK and IPOB have radicalised a large number of our youth in their 20s and early 30s and they may pose a danger to the stability of the South East. Our governors and leaders must reach out to them to integrate them back into society and make them productive.

I can go on and on, but I will stop here.

In summary, I can no longer agree with IPOB, they must either change their ways or be put out of existence. We need more stable, calculated, measured and strategic voices and leaders to come out and support.

We still want Biafra and we will achieve it through less violent and more intelligent methods. But if Nigeria changes for the better we will also support Nigeria.

Thank You.