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maximunimpact:
Watch Tower amended their bible and edited the bolded out

NWT is the worst translation ever

A wack job done by translators who lack the qualifications to do so

Kingsnairaland:
15 And he said to them: “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16 He that believes and is baptized will be saved, but he that does not believe will be condemned. 17 Furthermore, these signs will accompany those believing: By the use of my name they will expel demons, they will speak with tongues, 18 and with their hands they will pick up serpents, and if they drink anything deadly it will not hurt them at all. They will lay their hands upon sick persons, and these will become well.”
19 So, then, the Lord Jesus, after having spoken to them, was taken up to heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. 20 They, accordingly, went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and backed up the message through the accompanying signs....

The above is new world translation


Tell me the Bible they use
It in their Bible but they don't preach it because they don't believe Jesus

maximunimpact:
Our next topic of discussion is finally out guys, Ignore any other discussion not started by me:

In one of their teachings that they used in proving Jesus is not God but Angel Michael the watch tower came up with the idea that Jesus is not to be worshipped, but are they really sure about what they say? . Let's see how watch tower argued for and against themselves below: . Is Jesus supposed to be worshipped or not? Yes, Jesus is supposed to be worshipped:

“Question: The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Answer: Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so . . . It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father, and his agent in the creation of all things, including man,” (Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216).

maximunimpact:
“For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say: ‘You are my Son; today I have become your Father’? And again: ‘I shall be a Father to him, and he will be a Son to me’? But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: ‘And let all God’s angels worship him,'” (New Heavens and a New Earth, 1953, p. 27-28).

maximunimpact:
No, Jesus is not supposed to be worshipped:

“He taught men, not to worship him, but to worship Jehovah his Father . . . ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God,'” (Make Sure of All Things, p. 283).

“What I learned was so different from what I had heard at the “Christian” school I had attended. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not worship Jesus. Rather, they worship Almighty God, the One that Jesus himself worshipped,” (Awake, Dec. 22, 1987, p. 22).

true2god:
These were the ‘Bible Truth’ then but, according to modern JWs, led by Rutherford, they are false teachers. That is to say all the founding fathers of watchtowers, including Jaze T Russel, were all false teachers or didn’t know the Bible Truth.

This is verse modern JWs have stopped quoting all together in order not to be exposed. Thank God that this verse is still in the Bible.

This is when their light becomes darker after drinking hard liquor inside the watchtower bar. Contradicting themselves and defending their lies with utmost zeal. For the fact that they can/will blame the Christendom by using the word ‘Christian school’ when addressing the issue whether Yeshua should be worshipped, instead of them admitted that THEY once teach that, shows how dishonest and criminal-minded the governing body is.

maximunimpact:
Our next topic of discussion is finally out guys, Ignore any other discussion not started by me:

In one of their teachings that they used in proving Jesus is not God but Angel Michael the watch tower came up with the idea that Jesus is not to be worshipped, but are they really sure about what they say?

Let's see how watch tower argued for and against themselves below:

Is Jesus supposed to be worshipped or not?


Yes, Jesus is supposed to be worshipped:


“Question: The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Answer: Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so . . . It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father, and his agent in the creation of all things, including man,” (Watchtower, July 15, 1898, p. 216).

“For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say: ‘You are my Son; today I have become your Father’? And again: ‘I shall be a Father to him, and he will be a Son to me’? But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: ‘And let all God’s angels worship him,'” (New Heavens and a New Earth, 1953, p. 27-28).

No, Jesus is not supposed to be worshipped:

“He taught men, not to worship him, but to worship Jehovah his Father . . . ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God,'” (Make Sure of All Things, p. 283).

“What I learned was so different from what I had heard at the “Christian” school I had attended. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not worship Jesus. Rather, they worship Almighty God, the One that Jesus himself worshipped,” (Awake, Dec. 22, 1987, p. 22).

If they are this confused about Jesus being worshipped how can they be right about who they claim Jesus is today?

The floor is open for discussion now guys....

THEWRITERSMIND:
Looks like almost everything written by their founding fathers are now apostate views

If a foundation is built upon lies how can the house built on it stand the test of time

true2god:
Psalm 11:3

If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

If the foundation of the watchtower doctrines are based on lies, ignorance and inadequate understanding of the scriptures, what can/shall MaxInDhouse, Janosky, etc do?

MaxInDHouse:
Anticipating a response from JWs! . When Father Abraham told the rich man and his brothers that Lazarus will not be allowed to cool their spiritual thirst! Luke 16:26. Well all of you should keep on yearning!

true2god:
We don't need your response; we want you to read and learn from your OWN watchtower and AWAKE SLEEP magazines. Just read as we give you the contradictions/confusions in your OWN magazines.

MaxInDHouse:
OK you're here to teach people what is written in the magazines of an organization, shey?
More grease to your elbow Sir!

MaxInDHouse:
The next topic on this thread is really really a controversial topic and i'm dedicating it to all friends of the TRUTH on Nairaland.
It's going to be a lengthy discussion and whoever feels like asking related questions is free to air his or her opinion.

In the Bible book of Genesis God spoke of two rival organizations that will continue striving and fighting throughout mankind's history. God said:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:15

This revealed that Jehovah God Himself is the ONE responsible for the lasting enmity between the light {pure worship) and darkness (false religions)

Jesus also emphasized that he has come to do his father's work {John 4:34} along the line he made it clear that there is going to be enmity (division) in most Jewish homes between members of the same family. Matthew 10:34-39

Before Jesus' coming God's people are form just one nation (Jews) and Jesus himself confirm that only Jews were practicing pure worship until his arrival {John 4:20-22} but things will change from the moment his ministry begins and unlike before it wouldn't be a matter of geographical location that will determine God's people rather pure worship will be based on deep understanding (spirit) and God's word (truth) John 2:23-24

After Jesus' departure a war broke out within the Jewish community and all the religious sects in Jerusalem turned against Jesus' group {Act 4:18; 5:28} the Jews themselves began killing their own children and family members who joined Jesus' group! Act 7:54-60

But what is the secret behind these two perpetual enemies that God Himself said He is the cause of their lasting enmity?

Who are one God's side and Who are on Satan's side?

Well the next post will address this issue.
Once again you're welcome and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
OK you're here to teach people what is written in the magazines of an organization, shey?
More grease to your elbow Sir!

maximunimpact:
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MaxInDHouse:
The original post stands gìdìgbà, there's nothing Cain can do to disrupt Abel's pure worship anymore! Genesis 4:2-8

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time.
I really appreciate!

true2god:
I think they are suffering from cognitive dissonance; they believe in 2 contradictory statements to be true.

MaxInDHouse:
Our ongoing topic is:

The two rival organizations fighting ever since the beginning of mankind's history!

Jehovah has foretold through the mouth of Jacob (Israel) that there is going to be a King that will rule over his people in righteousness and to this King many people throughout the earth will become obedient {Genesis 49:10} so throughout the history of God's people they were awaiting this righteous King. David whom most Israelites respected most also prophesied that this coming King is like his Lord and this coming King will sit beside Jehovah their God {Psalms 110:1} meaning David is not even this promised King.

Isaiah also foretold that this coming King will be a Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace concluding that his reign will never end! Isaiah 9:6-7

So fear fell upon all Israelites and the began wondering who could this King be?

Daniel said this King will destroy all the world's Government and his own government will last forever! Daniel 2:44

Again who could this King be?

Well in the first century a young Jewish virgin got pregnant before her husband could touch her and she gave birth to son whose name is "Jesus" in fact angels from heaven came down to announce his birth and Satan who knew the child's mission began alerting all his people under his own Organization!

The plan is how to make the mission of this coming King fail!

But who are those under Satan's organization and to what extent is their influence?

We'll discuss this in the next post.

MaxInDHouse:
Today Satan's organization is the political system of this world so if you're part of this organization no matter your religion you will not see anything good in God's arrangement!

How to know the organization to which you belong between the two!

God's organization:
All members will dedicate their lives to God and his coming Kingdom so the political affairs of this world will not move them. John 15:19; 18:36

They will not support any racial dispute in the world because of their love for God and Christ this will help them to continue loving their fellow believers from all races! John 13:34-35

They will preach zealously and industriously teach their neighbours the good news of God's Kingdom (government) Matthew 10:11-13

They will not pursue any career that can affect their dedication to their God so they'll prefer a simple lifestyle! Matthew 6:25-34

Because of all these members of Satan's organization will hate them with passion. Of course individuals in Satan's organization don't really hate members of God's Organization, the problem is spiritual. They're feeling that members of God's Organization are wasting their life dedicating themselves to a course that seems worthless to them!

But who are members of Satan's organization?

To be continued.....

MaxInDHouse:
Satan's organization and her members!

Satan is the God of this system of things {2Corinthians 4:4} Jesus confirmed this {John 14:30} Apostle John attested to it {1John 5:19} so all politicians are bonafide and certified members of Satan's organization!

Satan knew very well that Jesus' mission will expose all his antics so after the death of Jesus' Apostles Satan quickly initiated many individuals who are claiming Christians but fully participating in Politics {Matthew 13:25} this people will claim they're for Jesus Christ but because they're under Satan's manipulations they will not see anything evil in killing their fellow believers due to Politics. John 8:44

Many may not be active in politics perhaps they're not connected or they are supporting the loosers but they'll be complaining bitterly and ready to support a revolution anytime the call is made. Of course they will hate members of God's Organization the most because they will be feeling that this people are part and parcel of the suffering millions under the bad government they want out of power but since the JWs are neutral completely this ones will develop special interest in what is keeping JWs behind from supporting their revolutionary moves!

But Satan is happy that all these people are been carried along with his murderous mission as they'll be killing one another at will for one reason or another {Revelations 6:3-4} that's why Jesus said members of Satan's organization are murderers like their father whose seed they are! John 8:44 compare to Genesis 3:15

So Jehovah's Witnesses Organization is the one and only group that's enlightened with this information that's why you will hate that Organization (not the members) because you feel that's where all the orders stopping this people from giving their support to what you seem is needful!

So we know you people truly love us from the bottom of your hearts but we are sorry there is a great chasm between us and you people {Luke 16:26} you people also have religious leaders but because your faith is not solid in the good news of God's Kingdom you are puzzled thinking "let's join hands in making a better future for our children, by removing the bad rulers, forget about this Governing Body and their empty promises of the end of the world. They have predicted it countless times and it has all failed"

But we know that it's not the Governing Body that promised us God's Kingdom, rather it's Jesus (God's only begotten son) so no matter how long it will take we will continue waiting patiently for God's Kingdom it may delay from man's viewpoint but it will not be too late!

"For the vision is yet for its appointed time, And it is rushing toward its end, and it will not lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it! For it will without fail come true. It will not be late!" Habakkuk 2:3

So nothing can make us give up on the promises of God found in God's word (Bible) we will never join in any revolution or protest against the worldly rulers, in God's own due time he will wipe them out and replace them with his righteous Kingdom {Daniel 2:44} by then righteousness will dwell throughout the earth! Isaiah 9:7


So if truthfully you believe in Jesus Christ i'm telling you now to keep enduring because we will soon reach the finishing line {Matthew 24:13} see you in Paradise! Luke 23:43

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

The floor is now open for questioning!

MaxInDHouse:
The floor is now open for questioning!

maximunimpact:
One characteristics of Satan's ORGANISATION is Lies!

John 8:44-45 (KJV): Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Watchtower claims to be the only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing.

Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible:

“We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981)

The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible:

“The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201).

Claiming to be Jehovah's ORGANISATION is also a lie by JWs as can be seen from self-destruct quotes from Watch Tower!

Let's see another confirmation of the many lies from their own publication below:

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

They have predicted Armageddon so many times and but Jehovah have always frustrated their signs and predictions which proves that their messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!

MaxInDHouse:
I said:



So can you go straight to your question now pertaining to the post you quoted and please try to be brief!

maximunimpact:


You have no authority to demand questions here Mr CIA agent

This is not kingdom hall where what i say here is not permitted in congregation meetings, here we lay the truth bare for everyone to see!

maximunimpact:


You have no authority to demand questions here Mr CIA agent

This is not kingdom hall where what i say here is not permitted in congregation meetings, here we lay the truth bare for everyone to see!