Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,150,846 members, 7,810,258 topics. Date: Saturday, 27 April 2024 at 03:13 AM

General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction - Properties (2342) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Properties / General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction (4370090 Views)

Discuss Anything Property And Lets Make Money In The Process / Residential Building Construction Mistakes In Nigeria You Need To Avoid / General Topic Thread - The Roforofo Thread Of Construction Activities (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (2339) (2340) (2341) (2342) (2343) (2344) (2345) ... (3662) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 8:26pm On Jul 23, 2021
twinskenny:
thank you sir I really appreciate you and every other person that have contributed so far, the body language of the guy has already given him away.. even if we sent him the 50k he won’t still do it cause that won’t be enough for him to hire a new machine or pay the people that he will hire… the mistake has been made by allowing him to move his equipment out of the site…. I believe we will sort it hopeful before next weekend.

Ok...so what is your solution? Police? Did he ask for variation in fees already negotiated ?..how do you move forward
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 8:28pm On Jul 23, 2021
n3xt:


If it’s me, I’d still pay him the N50k sha since that’s all he asked for. I won’t assume his position.

But that’s me anyway.


Pay him the 50k when all the FACTS are pointing to the opposite direction? Na so the money dey shack you?

They (client and twinskeeny) must have assessed the situation to come to that conclusion. I don't believe they 'assume'.

2 Likes

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:52pm On Jul 23, 2021
diordaves:


Pay him the 50k when all the FACTS are pointing to the opposite direction? Na so the money dey shack you?

They (client and twinskeeny) must have assessed the situation to come to that conclusion. I don't believe they 'assume'.

If he does not move another equipment to site, don't give him any more money. 50k is not even enough to pay the laborer's that will work with him if actually he is coming back.
There are other details like submpump. who is buying that? Was it bought yet?

You may have to make out time, if he come with the excuse that he needs to hire another equipment with the 50k, tell him you will follow him to the place and pay the money directly the people and collect receipt. Las las you can get someone else to go pick the machine and do your job if he defaults or ask for refund.

Don't ever give another money until you see another equipment on your site. First clarify the issue of the equipment before any other discussion. Find out how he intend to go about it. He might come up with story that he needs more money to repair the broken equipment, don't beat a death horse. Tell him to rent, you will pay to rent another one.

If it is more than 50k to rent, then the additional money is sacrifice you have to make.

1 Like

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 8:57pm On Jul 23, 2021
I agree with this informed position.


diordaves:


It MAY not be a good idea to put up the balance to finish the work. This MAY be a classical artisan trap.

Twinskenny said that the contractor said they should be paid the balance arguably to fix a piece of broken equipment to complete the work. Why can't they fix the equipment with the advance payment or from reserve (saved) funds?. This fit be artisan story. The client also said that the contractor demobilized from the site as a result of a broken piece of equipment. This fit be another artisan story.

One of the golden rules of the trade is: if you paid an artisan more than 90% of the fee charged and they come back for the 5% balance BEFORE they can complete the job, alarm bells should start ringing. This is a symptom (sign) of under-quoting. At this stage, the project is already frustrated. Throwing in more money without proper investigation as to the circumstances for the further demand may just be throwing good more after bad.

The dynamics of the borehole trade is this:
Borehole drillers (just like oil prospectors) have CAPACITY. So a borehole driller may have a capacity (for example) to drill up to 2meters, or 3mtrs or 100mtrs as the case may be. If you engaged a borehole driller with a capacity (for example) of 5 meters and they drilled at your site to their maximum capacity of 5 meters without hitting water, story don start. Na their way. This is because they quote blindly for jobs without a geological survey to determine the depth of the aquifer at the site. They just assume. Clients also just blindly believe.

So the client and twinskenny should first get hold of the contractor (they said they are in hiding), sit them down to properly investigate the circumstances surrounding their demobilizing from site BEFORE further payment if satisfied that the issue is truly a broken piece of equipment and not a case of under-quoting. They need to establish what equipment was broken, how much to fix it (what if it needs way more than the balance to fix it?). They should be careful not to fall into this trap. Story plenty with artisans. Engage all artisans with your eyes wide open.

1 Like

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:01pm On Jul 23, 2021
dongc:


Ok...so what is your solution? Police? Did he ask for variation in fees already negotiated ?..how do you move forward

he didnt ask for variation, police said they will pick him up next week. i think the best thing to do is to get another driller on site to finish the job.. well to me its like a new job but since the client has bought some materials the fee should be minimal.. we cant afford to give him another 50k that time @brabus since we already discover that the guy is not straight forward... i actually offered him 30k and he should source for 20k to finish up but he refused!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 9:03pm On Jul 23, 2021
DancingSkeleton:
Site location is Sapele road Benin city.
not a problem.. my guys can be there within week.. just check our thread for ongoing projects as well.

lets finalize on whatsapp you will still save some amount....


https://www.nairaland.com/6564561/pop-design-tv-wall-installation/16#104020283
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:14pm On Jul 23, 2021
Where is the location of the site?
What are the soil conditions because this will inform the choice of foundation to be used?
What's the area of the proposed building?

If you can answer these questions, then an approximate estimate can be made for you.

ollykay619:
Please house, how far will 7m go in building 2 units of 3 bedroom flat. No parapet
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:21pm On Jul 23, 2021
diordaves:


Pay him the 50k when all the FACTS are pointing to the opposite direction? Na so the money dey shack you?

They (client and twinskeeny) must have assessed the situation to come to that conclusion. I don't believe they 'assume'.

And what FACTS do we have to reach this conclusion when it’s not like the borehole guy is here to give us his own side of the story?

Here’s a question for you “Do you expect the guy to keep his faulty equipment (or the faulty equipment he hired from another company) on your site for a month?”

The guy hasn’t asked for any additional cost. He simply (according to Twinskenny) want his balance before he can move to site which is no big deal for me so long the job is done to satisfaction.

I’ll use that N50k to draw him out and make him an offer that he cannot refuse.

__________

I’m still speaking for me grin

1 Like

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:35pm On Jul 23, 2021
Some few years back, a woman (a little older than me) approached me to report her husband to me and asked me to talk to him as I’m one of his close friend.

She talk plenty about her husband’s insensitivity and how she has always been the one doing most stuffs in the house bla, blah...

I smiled and asked her a simple question “Aunty, do you want to be right or you want to be married?” If you want to remain married, you must be prepared to make some concession and stop listening to those who are giving you wrong advice.


That was the end of our discussion.

__________

Once again I’m asking “Do you want to be right or you want your job to be finished on time?”

___________

Good Night! My name na Brabus

2 Likes

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 9:38pm On Jul 23, 2021
DancingSkeleton:
thanks, too bad I was given this quotation by a relative. Someone else with 230sqm measurements listed these and 1,600 per sqm for labour.
This is close but buy them in batches... I paid 900 naira for labour
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:49pm On Jul 23, 2021
twinskenny:


he didnt ask for variation, police said they will pick him up next week. i think the best thing to do is to get another driller on site to finish the job.. well to me its like a new job but since the client has bought some materials the fee should be minimal.. we cant afford to give him another 50k that time @brabus since we already discover that the guy is not straight forward... i actually offered him 30k and he should source for 20k to finish up but he refused!

What if the police ask you to give him the N50k balance which is almost a 90% probability because that’s the only way they can extort money from the guy.

I’m speaking from experience.

Or izzit like you just get to police station, they’ll lock him up and money will just come to complete the work? Or the job will just be concluded without extra spend?


Anyway, we learn everyday!

1 Like

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DancingSkeleton(m): 9:50pm On Jul 23, 2021
Jasobry:

This is close but buy them in batches... I paid 900 naira for labour
shocked where’s that?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ollykay619(m): 9:54pm On Jul 23, 2021
sonnie10:


The type of foundation, location, soil type and size of building will determine.

Anyhow just budget at least 6000 blocks and additional 500 bags of cement, 2 trips of 30tons stone chippings ( German floor, lintel and the colums). Sharp sand and some iron rod. Keep #1M for all labor until they ask for more. Roofing might be up to #2-3m depending on the type

Okay thanks. Don't know about the soil type, but location is ibadan, i believe the soil type should be fine and it is a bungalow, so normal bungalow foundation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ollykay619(m): 10:06pm On Jul 23, 2021
QSFemi:
Where is the location of the site?
What are the soil conditions because this will inform the choice of foundation to be used?
What's the area of the proposed building?

If you can answer these questions, then an approximate estimate can be made for you.

.. Location is ibadan
I don't know the condition of the soil, but it is a bungalow. Approx. 150sqm
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kentucky404: 12:38am On Jul 24, 2021
n3xt:


Has this stopped flooding in Lekki?

4 years, 10 years or yesternight? Has anything meaningful been done.

I think you should stop being petty.

“Flooded Lekki” is the message and not me. I’d suggest you focus on the core.

Educate us if you have something worthwhile to share and not pick on people.

It’s not hard for me to identify small minds though. You sat down took all your time to read different messages on Lekki floods (cause, effect and economic impact) and the only thing you can come up with was “me” #smallminds undecided

_______

Good morning!

Lol undecided You have issues, you are always wanting to defend your unreasonable Position with long Epistle. cool

Am not in for a long thing on your case______ if not ehn___ cool

grin

6 Likes 1 Share

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Victordarey02: 12:43am On Jul 24, 2021
Victordarey02:
ARE YOU IN NEED OF A RELIABLE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY?

ARE YOU SCARED OF OVER HYPED BILL OF QUANTITY (QUOTATION) FOR YOUR FORTHCOMING PROJECT?

ARE YOU TIRED OF BEEN DUPED BY NON PROFESSIONALS?

DO YOU WANT A PROMPT, RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE EXPERTS?

NEVER GO FAR, WE ARE ALWAYS AT YOUR FINGER TIP

MR FIXER ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION LIMITED is always available to bring out the desired edifice inside you to REALITY

Contact us:
Call: 08127478080 or
Whatsapp: 07046517600

A TRIAL WILL CONVINCE YOU

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 1:23am On Jul 24, 2021
n3xt:


Those piece of art transcend time.

If in Lagos, there are guys who buy such.

For what it is or as Kwandem
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:47am On Jul 24, 2021
Nero2424:


For what it is or as Kwandem

Kwandem
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 5:09am On Jul 24, 2021
DancingSkeleton:
shocked where’s that?

Enugu
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 6:55am On Jul 24, 2021
Hello Clients,hope you are doing well,
I'm Adewale ( An MEP Engineer)
I specialize in the design of Mechanical, Electrical and Plumbing services for any project.
You can be rest assured that your Project will be handled by top notch Professionals.
I can offer my service in the design of M&E Services.
You can do well by inviting us to bid for any upcoming projects requiring our services.


Thanks in anticipation of your kind response.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 7:09am On Jul 24, 2021
Please I need your opinions on this. Which would be advisable: painting before or post construction?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 7:18am On Jul 24, 2021
sinorte:
Please I need your opinions on this. Which would be advisable: painting before or post construction?

This question sounds like you want to paint a house that is not existing yet.

4 Likes

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:34am On Jul 24, 2021
sinorte:
Please I need your opinions on this. Which would be advisable: painting before or post construction?

Before construction of what?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kiekie1(m): 7:35am On Jul 24, 2021
Hurry get yours while stocks last!

Quanta 12v 200a batteries available with a year standard warranty .. 145k

For further enquiry regarding product datasheet, order placement / transactions:

Contact,
Smartcell global services
CALL:: 081-350-31951
WHATSAPP::: https:///2348170385620

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 7:59am On Jul 24, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Before construction of what?

It's a private residential building. So I'm just asking, after construction is completed and all fittings fitted, is it advisable to paint before or after post construction cleaning?

1 Like

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:01am On Jul 24, 2021
sinorte:
Please I need your opinions on this. Which would be advisable: painting before or post construction?
finish everything about the building and then paint. Including the rails and whatnot
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 8:14am On Jul 24, 2021
michlins:
finish everything about the building and then paint. Including the rails and whatnot

Sorry, I meant to ask painting before or after post construction cleaning?.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 8:19am On Jul 24, 2021
n3xt:


You don minnit. Coming from
Dominionng - I give up.

If you no get money, don’t be a nuisance. We have too many of them already in the cyberspace.
_________

I recently told one guy “I’ll reduce you to your level.” He thought I’m joking. Well I’m waiting.
__________

The one I shared his story above is a BIG pastor in RCCG grin

Baba, I've had my share of wonderful diaspora clients. Even a handful I'm still working for at the moment.

Likewise some dubious and pompous fellows.

Many years back when I was still ignorant, right here on Nairaland, with my interior enterprise, I execute diaspora client's projects without mobilization.

Since the story has always been how vendors default on agreements, then I decided to get payment only when projects are 100% completed and accessed, since I personally can get materials from my suppliers and pay later.

This made me to win a lot of client's trust, but reality sets in when some clients started defaulting.

I was almost ran out of business which made me to start doing things differently. Millions of naira still pending till date.

5 Likes

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 8:22am On Jul 24, 2021
sonnie10:


This question sounds like you want to paint a house that is not existing yet.
The question wasn't complete.
@sinorte, painters prefer the cleaning is done after they are done. This may be because they don't want to do any cleaning of the mess they leave behind. They could easily touch stained walls while cleaning their mess.
Walls may be stained while cleaning after painting is done and with no painter and exact color for the part stained available, it would not be easy unless it's a cleanable paint.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:27am On Jul 24, 2021
gbadexy:

The question wasn't complete.
@sinorte, painters prefer the cleaning is done after they are done. This may be because they don't want to do any cleaning of the mess they leave behind. They could easily touch stained walls while cleaning their mess.
Walls may be stained while cleaning after painting is done and with no painter and exact color for the part stained available, it would not be easy unless it's a cleanable paint.

For me, I do painting before and after post cleaning.

It depends on how much you’re willing to spend.

(1) (2) (3) ... (2339) (2340) (2341) (2342) (2343) (2344) (2345) ... (3662) (Reply)

Viewing this topic: 1 guest(s)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 48
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.