JohnBullMySon:
Punished for what? They've already responded to him. It's not as if the NFF enjoys holding down people's money.

Just pray they won't victimized balogun for speaking out.

It seems the money was made available to the NFF all this while they just own this guys for nothing. Wheneveri criticised this pinnick lead management i know what I am saying...i remembered how they frustrate amunike under 20 team and it goes affect their performance and that was how that great team fumbled

You can't be owning a coach his salary for months while you and the other executives get paid monthly.

JohnBullMySon:
It sounds strange BTW. Having a white demographic looks like luck

Lol... somehow it appears the presence of the Caucasians in large numbers in countries somehow help in that country development

I cant wrap my head if there exist any country in the world that is like 95% blacks populated and it is developed even outside africa countries like haiti is languishing in poverty, corruption and under development

The time the british managed nigeria prior they start leave in droves Nigeria was way better and progressive in development than it is now, the railway system, kano...makurdi,enugu and others were functioning, there was stable electricity and education was greatly encouraged but ever since the Nigerians took full control it has been serious drawbacks that the country keep drifting backwards though we can as well blame the military juntas but not forget the corruption,electoral malpractice and tribal politics of the first republic prompted the military intervention and also the shehu shagari government according to amilca cabral has no equals in corruption as at then and that necessitated his overthrown

I do believe had it been the whites(british) stayed back like they did in south africa Nigeria would have been better developed i understand unlike in South africa, west africa was not habitable to the whites so much reason for the tag "west africa the white man's grave" the tropical climate and the infestation of malaria really ended many lives of the british..southern Africa was seen as a place they can settle and so they choose stay back even though they obviously denied the blacks access to basis essentials likeeducation etal and the dehumanization and others but notwithstanding their presence helps alot in the country infrastructural development and the likes

humility33:


Just pray they won't victimized balogun for speaking out.

It seems the money was made available to the NFF all this while they just own this guys for nothing. Wheneveri criticised this pinnick lead management i know what I am saying...i remembered how they frustrate amunike under 20 team and it goes affect their performance and that was how that great team fumbled

You can't be owning a coach his salary for months while you and the other executives get paid monthly.

The financial secretary was like "it's understandable for players to fume now and then, it's a COVID year, we are waiting for CBN". Long story short. NFF has no money. So sad. I suggest they go and beg oh.

JohnBullMySon:
The financial secretary was like "it's understandable for players to fume now and then, it's a COVID year, we are waiting for CBN". Long story short. NFF has no money. So sad. I suggest they go and beg oh.

I read the permanent Secretary words yesterday he said the CBN is working on paying the players their outstanding bonuses and soon they'll have it sorted. He claimed as regard the stadia things are being put to shape

I dont believe there is no money, how about the sports ministry budget and NFF allocation from this budget Does this budget dont cover up for this players bonuses since 2019 c'mon i just think some of this funds are been stolen

JohnBullMySon:
Then why are things not changing, post apartheid? You guys control the politics and military now. I never said whites are gods BTW. I just said generally, we are not making good decisions that move us forward.

Why didn't things change during white rule also? The black government has achieved some incredible things considering there was a huge backlog with regard to developing the lives of black people. Yes, there have been major challenges recently especially because of Zuma's corruption - most people acknowledge that. But to say it's a black problem, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. Mandela and Mbeki's years were superb, while Ramaphosa is trying to clean house during a pandemic and ANC divisions (because of Zuma). So 3 out 4 good black presidents is not a bad record at all.

JohnBullMySon:
Punished for what? They've already responded to him. It's not as if the NFF enjoys holding down people's money.

I haven't seen NFF's response. Balogun alluded to the fact that he was once punished for speaking plus Operanozie's treatment is well known

jihday:
I haven't seen NFF's response. Balogun alluded to the fact that he was once punished for speaking plus Operanozie's treatment is well known

It has always been the norms players who speak out are often punished.

jihday:
I haven't seen NFF's response. Balogun alluded to the fact that he was once punished for speaking plus Operanozie's treatment is well known

Their financial president or sth like that, responded.

Our main athletes like Okagbare, Amusan, Oduduru, are still in. The dopists are all inconsequential.

Well all the Caribbean countries like Jamaica are doing fairly well but I don't know why African nations (read black) have always found a way to F things ups.

The British ran Nigeria to boost their own country's economy. Nigeria having good railways and stable electricity wasn't because they loved us but to ensure smooth logistics and exports of raw materials to British industries.

Whites staying back would have resulted in another form of apartheid. Other than the threat of malaria I think the British just looked at us and thought that the stress of subjugating who were stubborn and fiercely independent wouldn't have been worth the wahala. Better to use proxies to continue to ensure smooth exports and financial benefits to Britain.

humility33:


Lol... somehow it appears the presence of the Caucasians in large numbers in countries somehow help in that country development

I cant wrap my head if there exist any country in the world that is like 95% blacks populated and it is developed even outside africa countries like haiti is languishing in poverty, corruption and under development

The time the british managed nigeria prior they start leave in droves Nigeria was way better and progressive in development than it is now, the railway system, kano...makurdi,enugu and others were functioning, there was stable electricity and education was greatly encouraged but ever since the Nigerians took full control it has been serious drawbacks that the country keep drifting backwards though we can as well blame the military juntas but not forget the corruption,electoral malpractice and tribal politics of the first republic prompted the military intervention and also the shehu shagari government according to amilca cabral has no equals in corruption as at then and that necessitated his overthrown

I do believe had it been the whites(british) stayed back like they did in south africa Nigeria would have been better developed i understand unlike in South africa, west africa was not habitable to the whites so much reason for the tag "west africa the white man's grave" the tropical climate and the infestation of malaria really ended many lives of the british..southern Africa was seen as a place they can settle and so they choose stay back even though they obviously denied the blacks access to basis essentials likeeducation etal and the dehumanization and others but notwithstanding their presence helps alot in the country infrastructural development and the likes

It's still a mortal blow. 2 of our relay teams don't have enough runners plus the lady triple jumper don't remember her name now has missed out despite her impressive performances. I do get you that from a realistic medal perspective our best shots were unaffected.

JohnBullMySon:
Our main athletes like Okagbare, Amusan, Oduduru, are still in. The dopists are all inconsequential.

JohnBullMySon:
Our main athletes like Okagbare, Amusan, Oduduru, are still in. The dopists are all inconsequential.

You forgot Ese Brume....


And there's the wrestling duo of Adekuroye and Oburududu

12large1:



Exactly my point. because, they still lost 2 games in a row even Rohr didn't lose 2 games in a row at the world cup. At the end of the day, whether a coach chooses to use the humble or arrogant route, it's only his results that matters

Rohr isn't an humble coach.. He just doesn't know how to instill confidence in his players...You may call Mike Brown a big talker, but the man knows his onions... Like I said, our team is largely inexperienced....a few of them just finished their rookie season in the NBA...Give them time....

chrisooblog:
The point is the Apartheid government performed mostly for the population that they were meant for the minority whites. However the majority black government led by the ANC has yet to adequately address the concerns of the majority black population. Blacks still form part of the majority of poor people in south africa. How many black south africans run the major corporate businesses in south africa? Is land equitably distributed to black farmers? Considering that the ANC is in control of most levers of political power they ought to have done more.

So the apartheid government catered to whites only (20% of the population back then) and u consider that an achievement?

The ANC then inherited a majority poor population lacking in critical skills and basic education because of Bantu education and low literacy rates among black people.

Today we hear the black middle class is the heartbeat of economic growth in SA and u consider that a complete failure? Black university graduates quadrupled in just 20 years and the bankrupt economy the ANC inherited (yes, apartheid left SA bankrupt at less than $100billion) had quadrupled to $400 in the same period hence SA joined the BRICS and G20.

Yes more could have been achieved and we protest about it daily in SA but the ANC inherited a total deficit in SA that most u don't know or wanna acknowledge.

Danielnino00:


Rohr isn't an humble coach.. He just doesn't know how to instill confidence in his players...You may call Mike Brown a big talker, but the man knows his onions... Like I said, our team is largely inexperienced....a few of them just finished their rookie season in the NBA...Give them time....

He still lost 2 games in a row baba

chrisooblog:
Well all the Caribbean countries like Jamaica are doing fairly well but I don't know why African nations (read black) have always found a way to F things ups.

The British ran Nigeria to boost their own country's economy. Nigeria having good railways and stable electricity wasn't because they loved us but to ensure smooth logistics and exports of raw materials to British industries.

Whites staying back would have resulted in another form of apartheid. Other than the threat of malaria I think the British just looked at us and thought that the stress of subjugating who were stubborn and fiercely independent wouldn't have been worth the wahala. Better to use proxies to continue to ensure smooth exports and financial benefits to Britain.

You've said true...the railway and others were developed to ensure smooth logistics of their raw materials loot. I remember reading an excerpts on how the city of Liverpool was built wit tin ore from plateau state. But Jamaica u mentioned have Caucasians in large numbers better to be called multi racial country....

In as much as it could have been another apartheid had it been the english choose settle in west africa i dont agree wit the fact that it would have been like south africa western africa countries like gold coast and nigerians were just too intelligent to be managed like the way the british managed south africa....

Mind you Nigerians and Ghanians possesses one of the smartest folks in the early 1900s, this men were exposed, intelligent and were outspoken o forsee a situation where both race Caucasians and blacks would have coexist peacefully and make so much progress

The average black south african can't matcb nigerians in intelligence and output. I see the white subjugation of black south africans as psychological and mental motivated.

Danielnino00:


You forgot Ese Brume....


And there's the wrestling duo of Adekuroye and Oburududu

Yeah. Didn't mention all. My point is that those out were not expected to win a medal either.

chrisooblog:
The Apartheid government was created to take care of the whites they never pretended about that.

Considering that the Whites only government didn't have any regard for the blacks as per education it will only be logical for things to improve in that aspect when the ANC took over but the point I'm making is the way the apartheid government went all out to improve the well being of whites hasn't been replicated enough by the ANC.

Ok black graduates have quadrupled but percentage wise is that any near that for whites. Poor health service delivery Blacks are still on the receiving end compared to whites. Tech innovation blacks south africans should be dominating thanks to relatively better education and infrastructure but yet ''poorer countries'' like Nigeria and Kenya are eating your pie in the tech space. Mention any field be it sports, business, technology, commerce where a South African is blazing the trail more often than not the individual is either white, asian or of colored origin.

Plus I never said the ANC were complete failures but with the infrastructure they inherited by far the best on the continent they should be doing way better. A country with knowledge people and world class facilities shouldn't be going into recession and battling power cuts.

You said true

I told my colleagues that same thing is happening to black Americans today they're mentally still backwards, that's why you will see blacks from nigerian and elsewhere come into america make good use of the opportunities and climb the ladder than the real black Americans who originally grew with america to full statehold

I think same issues many of the southern africans suffered from, notwithstanding the educational policy since the ANC took over even though it hasn't been so well tinted still dont see why they black south africans cant harness it for their advantage it is way better than what we have got in Nigeria

More so, I believe the white south africans make up that country in economics, sports and others. Take the whites away,there will be no South Africa

Akwa United with another fine performance away from home. Still can't believe ifeanyi Ubah is about to get relegated..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RskmhirXz0s

TMKsouth:


Why didn't things change during white rule also? The black government has achieved some incredible things considering there was a huge backlog with regard to developing the lives of black people. Yes, there have been major challenges recently especially because of Zuma's corruption - most people acknowledge that. But to say it's a black problem, I wholeheartedly disagree with you. Mandela and Mbeki's years were superb, while Ramaphosa is trying to clean house during a pandemic and ANC divisions (because of Zuma). So 3 out 4 good black presidents is not a bad record at all.

guy please I beg u. Carry ur folly to somewhere else. This is the super eagles thread we don't want derailing or stories about south Africa here.
Use the search option u will see posts of Nigerians on here willing to measure dick with you.

PROVERBZ:
guy please I beg u. Carry ur folly to somewhere else. This is the super eagles thread we don't want derailing or stories about south Africa here.
Use the search option u will see posts of Nigerians on here willing to measure dick with you.

You sound too harsh. I know he's derailing the thread but he didn't insult anybody or any country at least. Be more polite next time.

Danielnino00:


You forgot Ese Brume....


And there's the wrestling duo of Adekuroye and Oburududu

You sabi your work well, am backing Aunty Blessing for a medal, possibly Gold

According to comments on Brentford FC IG page on onyeka, he played well against Man utd

BascoVanVeli:
Akwa United with another fine performance away from home. Still can't believe ifeanyi Ubah is about to get relegated..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RskmhirXz0s

That's the beauty of fair play, they could had use anyhow antics to win all their home games, therefor escaping the drop,

All in all. Its good omen, their respone with determine their seriousness

Enyimba looking good for a continental slot. This was the match I felt would be a problem so a point is not that bad. Lobi played well also but a draw was a fair result.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5qQDsAaj3E

chrisooblog:
The point is the Apartheid government performed mostly for the population that they were meant for the minority whites. However the majority black government led by the ANC has yet to adequately address the concerns of the majority black population. Blacks still form part of the majority of poor people in south africa. How many black south africans run the major corporate businesses in south africa? Is land equitably distributed to black farmers? Considering that the ANC is in control of most levers of political power they ought to have done more.

This is a sports thread leave politics out of it.

Black south Africans have the higher population so there will always be more poor black south Africans than whytes same way there are more rich black south Africans than whytes but the population statistics will not agree.


For example:
If there are 5 million Whyte people and out of that only 3.5 million are rich that's 70% while if there are 20 million black south Africans and out of that only 11.5 million are rich that's 55%.

So when the media is telling you the figures they'll say 70% whytes are rich while only 55% blacks are rich but if you look at the figures you'll notice that the amount of rich black south Africans is triple that of whytes.

JohnBullMySon:
You sound too harsh. I know he's derailing the thread but he didn't insult anybody or any country at least. Be more polite next time.

it's a shit show where ever he goes.
There are already enough threads about south Africa and Nigeria.

I don't want to be reading about black south Africans and white south Africans on here.

humility33:


You've said true...the railway and others were developed to ensure smooth logistics of their raw materials loot. I remember reading an excerpts on how the city of Liverpool was built wit tin ore from plateau state. But Jamaica u mentioned have Caucasians in large numbers better to be called multi racial country....

In as much as it could have been another apartheid had it been the english choose settle in west africa i dont agree wit the fact that it would have been like south africa western africa countries like gold coast and nigerians were just too intelligent to be managed like the way the british managed south africa....

Mind you Nigerians and Ghanians possesses one of the smartest folks in the early 1900s, this men were exposed, intelligent and were outspoken o forsee a situation where both race Caucasians and blacks would have coexist peacefully and make so much progress

The average black south african can't matcb nigerians in intelligence and output. I see the white subjugation of black south africans as psychological and mental motivated.

humility33:


Lol... somehow it appears the presence of the Caucasians in large numbers in countries somehow help in that country development

I cant wrap my head if there exist any country in the world that is like 95% blacks populated and it is developed even outside africa countries like haiti is languishing in poverty, corruption and under development

The time the british managed nigeria prior they start leave in droves Nigeria was way better and progressive in development than it is now, the railway system, kano...makurdi,enugu and others were functioning, there was stable electricity and education was greatly encouraged but ever since the Nigerians took full control it has been serious drawbacks that the country keep drifting backwards though we can as well blame the military juntas but not forget the corruption,electoral malpractice and tribal politics of the first republic prompted the military intervention and also the shehu shagari government according to amilca cabral has no equals in corruption as at then and that necessitated his overthrown

I do believe had it been the whites(british) stayed back like they did in south africa Nigeria would have been better developed i understand unlike in South africa, west africa was not habitable to the whites so much reason for the tag "west africa the white man's grave" the tropical climate and the infestation of malaria really ended many lives of the british..southern Africa was seen as a place they can settle and so they choose stay back even though they obviously denied the blacks access to basis essentials likeeducation etal and the dehumanization and others but notwithstanding their presence helps alot in the country infrastructural development and the likes

It would have been worse than South Africa. You're only saying this because west Africans especially southern Nigerians were always prepared to attack the Bri:tish if the Brit:ish attacked them. And southern Nigerians of that era empowered each other. When the Brit:ish left Nigeria there was no University in Nigeria.

before the br:itish left Nigeria, the Br:itish did not build one university, our number of primary and secondary schools were very low, br:itish did not build
smooth roads all over Nigeria , no housing estates, no plans for clean water for communities, majority of the private companies where owned by the br:itish and they only gave Nigerians clerical work which is what the education system they gave us is meant to produce office assistants.

All the developments you see in Nigeria today from Abuja to lagos to calabar to Akwa-ibom to oyo to Enugu e.t.c are all built by Nigerians, our parents, our grand parents e.t.c the br:itish left Nigeria to rot. Everything you had and have the privilege of enjoying in Nigeria was and is through the hardwork of parents, grand parents, and other Nigerians.

humility33:



I told my colleagues that same thing is happening to black Americans today they're mentally still backwards, that's why you will see blacks from nigerian and elsewhere come into america make good use of the opportunities and climb the ladder than the real black Americans who originally grew with america to full statehold

this is a sports thread.

black Americans are not mentally backwards , its the same way b:uhari does not like picking southern Nigerians to head positions that why:te Americans especially the whyte political class don't like picking people that are of black American descent...

the same way o:bama and h:arris are not of black american descent but they've gotten positions that are the birthright of black Americans.. CEOs of micro:soft, g:oogle are not black Americans but can be termed as "people of color" which is one of many terms they use to put black americans out of the equation or lower down the ladder..

stop saying igno:rant things on this thread... only discuss sports.

PROVERBZ:
guy please I beg u. Carry ur folly to somewhere else. This is the super eagles thread we don't want derailing or stories about south Africa here.
Use the search option u will see posts of Nigerians on here willing to measure dick with you.

Proverbs my guy don't act like u ain't no troll of SA issues. I've seen u derailing most SA threads around here. So sit down, let someone else raise this objection.