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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:31pm On Jul 29, 2021
benalvino3:
Ok. He is boogaloo whatever. How does that change the fact that the fbi broke the law?
I am not politically correct and I don't think two wrongs should make a right. Boogaloo boys are there, they are allowed to be boogaloo boys just as people are allowed to join MS-13 krips or bloods. It's only in the act of a crime or committed crime the law enforcement should act.

If it's illegal for the group to exist or form, they would not be allowed to have guns or open carry. If you like call me nazi or whatever, na common sense wey evade you.

No law enforcement should entrap anyone. It's against the law. That's my point. Carry this your kkk nazi bush rat talk keep for your pocket. Use your head.
Stop forming stronghead. The point of this exchange is not to argue with you about open carry or whatever but to show you that the garbage you read on your cultist websites has you carrying Nazis matter on your head and sympathizing with them.

Whether you know it or not, that's what you do everyday in regurgitating the nonsense you read from far right websites, having neither the knowledge nor cultural perception to know the nuances behind the racist propaganda you vomit here. That's why we call you coon. A coon is simply a messenger from the slavemaster to his fellow blacks, and that you have proven to be today by regurgitating the crap you read on right wing blogs in support of your lovely bugaloo boys
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:33pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
It's not actually an entrapment but a STING operation which is perfectly legal under US laws. Sting Operations has been common since the days of J. E Hoover. The person you are arguing with is either ignorant or getting his wrong information from far right wing sources.
That's why we call him coon. Coming here everyday to vomit the racist propaganda he reads on those garbage sites
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 6:36pm On Jul 29, 2021
benalvino3:
Even the mainstream media now admits 12 out of the 18 plotters of the “whitmer kidnapping” in Michigan were FBI agents. They blamed trump rhetoric and his fanatics on it but the FBI took leadership role on the group, organised meetings and planned the kidnapping. The whole thing is nothing short of an entrapment. They blamed maga and trump.
I sure know you can do better than concluding that it's an entrapment. That is the defence of the alleged plotters.

Buzzfeed did a good report on this case. If you read it, you will know that issues here are very nuanced.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/michigan-kidnapping-gretchen-whitmer-fbi-informant


Similarly, watch an interview of the reporter from Buzzfeed -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD9ZEYXBrIg
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 6:37pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Asides Trump's endorsing extremist like Marjorie Greene (the one that was fucking 2 lovers while being married) or retweeting white power video, the article below gives an insight to how he is well at home with the far right:

https://www.ft.com/content/6da53be7-e809-48d2-99f6-0e1348e68391
Problem is for how long can Trump continue with this or the effect on Republican electoral chances, far right waited long to have power in the GOP and now they have it, they wont back down easily.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:42pm On Jul 29, 2021
sanpipita:
Do you really believe far left control Democrats or you just want to go off and make unsubstantiated statements, AOC even lost her bid to be in energy committee thats crucial to climate change plans, Democrats voted Kathleen Rice over her.

Republicans are the ones under siege from far right.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/17/kathleen-rice-aoc-house-committee-448001
Politico is a democratic mouth piece.
I explained that Biden policies are what the squad pushed for Green New Deal, social snd gender norms, abortion, liberal pet issues, unlimited immigration etc.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:47pm On Jul 29, 2021
benalvino3:
Ok. He is boogaloo whatever. How does that change the fact that the fbi broke the law?
I am not politically correct and I don't think two wrongs should make a right. Boogaloo boys are there, they are allowed to be boogaloo boys just as people are allowed to join MS-13 krips or bloods. It's only in the act of a crime or committed crime the law enforcement should act.

If it's illegal for the group to exist or form, they would not be allowed to have guns or open carry. If you like call me nazi or whatever, na common sense wey evade you.

No law enforcement should entrap anyone. It's against the law. That's my point. Carry this your kkk nazi bush rat talk keep for your pocket. Use your head.
That was entrapment. the FBI was encouraging , even financing, directing and offering suggestions. That should be criminal. The FBI should have warned the guys officially instead of encouraging them.
They wanted the far right to be a target group, which they are now quoting as s dangerous group.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 6:55pm On Jul 29, 2021
basilico:
Politico is a democratic mouth piece.
I explained that Biden policies are what the squad pushed for Green New Deal, social snd gender norms, abortion, liberal pet issues, unlimited immigration etc.
Haha this is typical, Politico is Democrats mouthpiece and so what? was AOC dropped or not? again leftists don't control Democrats, if leftists control Democrats Biden wouldn't win nomination.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007:
basilico:
That was entrapment. the FBI was encouraging , even financing, directing and offering suggestions. That should be criminal. The FBI should have warned the guys officially instead of encouraging them.
They wanted the far right to be a target group, which they are now quoting as s dangerous group.
Lol. You guys would never get tired of supporting white supremacists online.

It was okay when the FBI was using it to capture Islamic terrorists, but it's not okay when the same operations are being used on home grown terrorism by white supremacists.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:58pm On Jul 29, 2021
basilico:
That was entrapment. the FBI was encouraging , even financing, directing and offering suggestions. That should be criminal. The FBI should have warned the guys officially instead of encouraging them.
They wanted the far right to be a target group, which they are now quoting as s dangerous group.
Mumu man. This has been bookmarked so we can celebrate and dunk on your head when those Nazis are convicted. 400,000 text messages between the group who initiated the plot to kidnap and kill the Governor even before the FBI (informants ie citizens, not agents).got involved. And you think entrapment will fly in any court? If so, I have one Agbada that Abba Kyari sent me to give you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:59pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Lol. You guys would never get tired of supporting white supremacists online.
These coons and cultists are irredeemable
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:00pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:
Stop forming stronghead. The point of this exchange is not to argue with you about open carry or whatever but to show you that the garbage you read on your cultist websites has you carrying Nazis matter on your head and sympathizing with them.

Whether you know it or not, that's what you do everyday in regurgitating the nonsense you read from far right websites, having neither the knowledge nor cultural perception to know the nuances behind the racist propaganda you vomit here. That's why we call you coon. A coon is simply a messenger from the slavemaster to his fellow blacks, and that you have proven to be today by regurgitating the crap you read on right wing blogs in support of your lovely bugaloo boys
The democrats are the party of the slaves. Also, the point is that two wrongs don't make a right. You don't entrap people so you can arrest them. That's my point.

Lol, fool say yahoo News na right-wing. You think I am as daft as you are? First you ignore the point I was making to bring up kkk and nazi like I was making a case for anyone.

My point was the fbi should not entrap any group. If you get sense you for now. Most times people who always shout coon and racist are projecting. You are a fatter coon than I will ever be grin I am not politically correct, I deal with common sense and you should do too. A setup is never a good thing olodo

You cannot even torture Osama bin laden if he was alive today. There are things that are bad and should not be done to anyone. Na only illetrates will think it's okay to setup anyone.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:03pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Lol. You guys would never get tired of supporting white supremacists online.

It was okay when the FBI was using it to capture Islamic terrorists, but it's not okay when the same operations are being used on home grown terrorism by white supremacists.
Who said it was okay. I doubt anyone here even knew or talked about it.

Ibime is in support of setting up groups who have not committed a crime yet. That's wrong and lawless fools think like that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:07pm On Jul 29, 2021
benalvino3:
The democrats are the party of the slaves. Also, the point is that two wrongs don't make a right. You don't entrap people so you can arrest them. That's my point.
You jumped so excitedly to this thread to tell us your favourite neoNazi group is in the clear due to FBI entrapment, happy that a group who won't hesitate to snuff life out of you for the colour of your skin might be acquitted because you don't like the Democratic Governor they tried to kidnap and kill.

Infact, let's make a bet. If they get acquitted, I send you money. If they get convicted, you send me money. Name your price, let's see how foolish you are for getting your hopes up.

Read and learn, mumu. In the court of law, I wonder how they will wriggle out of 400,000 text messages claiming entrapment, or the fact they had already agreed to the plot before one of their members turned informant for the FBI.

Ibime:
400,000 text messages between the group who initiated the plot to kidnap and kill the Governor even before the FBI (informants ie citizens, not agents).got involved. And you think entrapment will fly in any court? If so, I have one Agbada that Abba Kyari sent me to give you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:08pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:
These coons and cultists are irredeemable
No one is going to beat them if they stand on the side of good over evil (atleast for once) in their lives lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:09pm On Jul 29, 2021
benalvino3:
Who said it was okay. I doubt anyone here even knew or talked about it.

Ibime is in support of setting up groups who have not committed a crime yet. That's wrong and lawless fools think like that.
The US government says Sting Operations are Legal. The law is doesn't care about your feelings. End of story.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:20pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
The US government says Sting Operations are Legal. The law is doesn't care about your feelings. End of story.
Sting operation is okay entrapment is not. The question or the case of the matter is if the FBI carried lead role in the financing and planning of the operation. That's entrapment.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:22pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
No one is going to beat them if they stand on the side of good over evil (atleast for once) in their lives lol.
Both sides are evil. Two wrongs don't make a right. Police cannot plant drug in the car of a criminal or a known drug dealer to arrest him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:24pm On Jul 29, 2021
We have got to give it to the FBI. As they are busy bursting Insurrectionists and Boogaloo terrorists boys in the US, they are also busy bursting Nigerian criminals and syndicates like Hush Puppy, Invictus Obi, and now they have also bursted celebrity cop Nigeria's Jack Bauer (Alhaji Keyari) LOL.

The Nigerian DSS, CIDs, EFCC e.t.c are very useless and incompetent.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:30pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:
You jumped so excitedly to this thread to tell us your favourite neoNazi group is in the clear due to FBI entrapment, happy that a group who won't hesitate to snuff life out of you for the colour of your skin might be acquitted because you don't like the Democratic Governor they tried to kidnap and kill.

Infact, let's make a bet. If they get acquitted, I send you money. If they get convicted, you send me money. Name your price, let's see how foolish you are for getting your hopes up.

Read and learn, mumu. In the court of law, I wonder how they will wriggle out of 400,000 text messages claiming entrapment, or the fact they had already agreed to the plot before one of their members turned informant for the FBI.
Lmao. You be monkey. I don't even know their name or anything about them. I only said the fbi should not entrap people. That's morality, something you lack and Ever since you have been lying through your teeth and gaslighting. Like I Said, you are more of a coon than I will ever be.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:31pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
We have got to give it to the FBI. As they are busy bursting Insurrectionists and Boogaloo terrorists boys in the US, they are also busy bursting Nigerian criminals and syndicates like Hush Puppy, Invictus Obi, and now they have also burtsed celebrity cop Nigeria Jack Bauer (Alhaji Keyari) LOL.

The Nigerian DSS, CIDs, EFCC are very useless and incompetent.
The evil that men do lives after them says Julius Caesar. I have seen so many crimes committed in US by not only Nigerians, Africans and even Americans of all shades. One thing i always tell these guys especially these young impressionable Nigerians in America and even in Lagos is that America is Big Uncle indeed and nothing you do is hideous to Uncle Sam. It might take a while to get on your case but they will eventually get you. The best way to survive in America and get a good life is to keep your "nose clean" as we say in Chitown. One thing i can tell you is if Abbak Kyari is really involved in that shady deal, FBI will find out and no one in the world can cover for him. About Hushpuppi, that guy pleading guilty is the best he can do and he will still serve time in the College and when he finishes his sentence, he would be deported and he would never be the same guy psychologically.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:34pm On Jul 29, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
The evil that men do lives after them says Julius Caesar. I have seen so many crimes committed in US by not only Nigerians, Africans and even Americans of all shades. One thing i always tell these guys especially these young impressionable Nigerians in America and even in Lagos is that America is Big Uncle indeed and nothing you do is hideous to Uncle Sam. It might take a while to get on your case but they will eventually get you. The best way to survive in America and get a good life is to keep your "nose clean" as we say in Chitown. One thing i can tell you is if Abbak Kyari is really involved in that shady deal, FBI will find out and no one in the world can cover for him. About Hushpuppi, that guy pleading guilty is the best he can do and he will still serve time in the College and when he finishes his sentence, he would be deported and he would never be the same guy psychological.
Absolutely. They just ensure the case is solid before going for the kill.

Nigerian super cop turned fashion designer lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:38pm On Jul 29, 2021
benalvino3:
Lmao. You be monkey. I don't even know their name or anything about them. I only said the fbi should not entrap people. That's morality,
No, you were excited. Wetin consign you with how FBI handle their operations.

It's good you said you don't know anything about them. Like I said, you don't know much about the nuances of what you bring to this thread from your far right echo chamber that makes people call you a coon. Today you have brought the boogaloo boys to us and even defended them, not knowing the nature of who they are. Probably had them as patriots and anti-lockdown, democrat-haters in your mind and heroes to you therefore, not knowing the bigger picture which is that they will kill you on sight for the colour of your skin if no one is watching.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:39pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:
Stop forming stronghead. The point of this exchange is not to argue with you about open carry or whatever but to show you that the garbage you read on your cultist websites has you carrying Nazis matter on your head and sympathizing with them.

Whether you know it or not, that's what you do everyday in regurgitating the nonsense you read from far right websites, having neither the knowledge nor cultural perception to know the nuances behind the racist propaganda you vomit here. That's why we call you coon. A coon is simply a messenger from the slavemaster to his fellow blacks, and that you have proven to be today by regurgitating the crap you read on right wing blogs in support of your lovely bugaloo boys
This one hits hard.. cry
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:40pm On Jul 29, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
The evil that men do lives after them says Julius Caesar. I have seen so many crimes committed in US by not only Nigerians, Africans and even Americans of all shades. One thing i always tell these guys especially these young impressionable Nigerians in America and even in Lagos is that America is Big Uncle indeed and nothing you do is hideous to Uncle Sam. It might take a while to get on your case but they will eventually get you. The best way to survive in America and get a good life is to keep your "nose clean" as we say in Chitown. One thing i can tell you is if Abbak Kyari is really involved in that shady deal, FBI will find out and no one in the world can cover for him. About Hushpuppi, that guy pleading guilty is the best he can do and he will still serve time in the College and when he finishes his sentence, he would be deported and he would never be the same guy psychological.
Some Nigerian brothers have fallen into the hands of cops as well for trying to patronise prostitutes (JJC levels). The cops would go as far as paying for hotel rooms for a week or month just to catch several johns in sting operations.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:42pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Absolutely. They just ensure the case is solid before going for the kill.

Nigerian super cop turned fashion designer lol.
Yes indeed. I remember the case of Late Kashamu well. He was a big drug dealer in Uptown about two blocks from where i grew up on Lawrence and Winthrop and his associates were arrested and he fled. He became a Senator and the US Government wanted him so bad that he was using Senatorial immunity and lying that his deceased brother that looks like him was the drug dealer. America was on his case till he died of covid last year. I knew of a guy that was illegally kidnapped in Lekki by US agents and shipped to America. He served his time and they deported him back to Nigeria. America's tentacles spreads all over the world.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:46pm On Jul 29, 2021
basilico:
Politico is a democratic mouth piece.
I explained that Biden policies are what the squad pushed for Green New Deal, social snd gender norms, abortion, liberal pet issues, unlimited immigration etc.
Mr Liar, politico is now a stupid republiqan trash bin. You always talk without objective reasoning.
And those things you listed is what keeps you up at night? Then you have nothing to say about how Democrats govern, i think you are now aware that republicrooks can't govern at all. Just keep kwayet coz we know your major policy disagreements with Biden's admin is just much-ado-about-nothing and very flimsy, issues that don't even affect your life. Just because you have been filled with hate hate hate, you claiming arm chair expert.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:46pm On Jul 29, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Yes indeed. I remember the case of Late Kashamu well. He was a big drug dealer in Uptown about two blocks from where i grew up on Lawrence and Winthrop and his associates were arrested and he fled. He became a Senator and the US Government wanted him so bad that he was using Senatorial immunity and lying that his deceased brother that looks like him was the drug dealer. America was on his case till he died of covid last year. I knew of a guy that was illegally kidnapped in Lekki by US agents and shipped to America. He served his time and they deported him back to Nigeria. America's tentacles spreads all over the world.
I remember Buruji. Covid got him in Nigeria.

The 3 Nigerian politicians below were also able to escape to Nigeria before the long arm of the law caught up with them.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:48pm On Jul 29, 2021
DissTroy:
No, Benalvino3's account hasn't been hijacked, Budaatum - he just thinks for himself, and I like people who think for themselves. I don't do monolithic group-think.

Because he's right-leaning doesn't mean he can't disagree with some of the comments.

I've expressed my like for many of the talking points Candace Owens hammers on on this thread, but on this same thread, I have stated I disagree with her on moving to Parler which her husband has a major stake in.
My Twitter username is known, and if you search well enough, you'd find me calling out her hypocrisy on her contradictory takes on Naomi Osaka pulling out of a competition for mental health reasons within a 10-hour period.

Even on this thread, those who are right-leaning think for themselves. We don't agree on all socio-political issues within ourselves and there's diversity of opinions.

Ben rationalised Buhari punishing Twitter for interference, citing the dangerous precedence they sent with banning Trump. That could be rationalised, but I stated the ban was a step too far and was more than regulation but seeking full control.
Basilico champions the Arizona Audit but most of us (right-leaning folks) don't really think much would come out of it given the bias of the Left.

When Biden was being lampooned months ago for the state of the U.S. economy on this thread, I stated it was too early to judge him based on the economy because the pandemic took a toll on most economies and it would take longer to recover. (In fact, it was a reply to you after you mentioned me because I had been away from the thread for months).

Do we have slightly different summations on certain issues on the Right? Yes! Do we still identify with the talking points of the Right? Yes!

But on the Left, except you sometimes (like on the CRT topic), it's zombie thinking. Obrigado and the other girl dare not disagree with Baba60+ or the Eskimo else risk being 'excommunicated'. You all have to agree on the same things else you'd be attacked. Dissenters or seeming dissenters would be lynched. It's a master-slave relationship. Mostly slaves to the MSM conclusions.

It's why I laugh when they try to turn it on its head and project what we aptly call them on us. Ben, Basil, and Obi are no way my slaves - slaves must always agree with their master and it's obvious we think for ourselves.

Obrigado, the other girl, the Eskimo are slaves to Baba60+ and Sports Section Yozokuna. It's why Baba would say all 180 million Nigerians are poor and hungry and sick, but Obrigado/EnlightenedUFO would turn a blind eye, or he would feed 2 Nigerian states with his supposed salary but the other girl would go ghost at that moment and would never comment on it or call him out - slaves-master.

Ráumdeuter is right-leaning and pushes the talking points but if he states something as ignorant as that (he wouldn't), all of us (on the Right or right-leaning) would call him out immediately.

I don't do monolithic group-think. I don't do hypocrisy too. Always, I'd call out both and shame those involved with the facts.
smiley
Mad man, have you taken your drugs today?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:49pm On Jul 29, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Some Nigerian brothers have fallen into the hands of cops as well for trying to patronise prostitutes (JJC levels). The cops would go as far as paying for hotel rooms for a week or month just to catch several johns in sting operations.
Why would someone fall for shiity stuff like that especially in US where pusssssies is like a dozen for a Dime. The only time i crossed the line was with IRS many years ago because my wifey and i usually buy rental properties that are distressed and we will fix them up and flip some and rent some to people on section 8. We took some deductibles that were disputed and IRS didn't say anything for 12 years and they came all of a sudden to tell us that we owe them on the deductibles we took. We got a tax lawyer and it took us about 4 years to come to mutual agreement and we paid less than 5% of what we owed them. That scare the hell out of me because it happened when Martha Stewart was going through her problems with IRS. You don't Bleep with the Feds here. They will make a Billionaire cry for his or her Daddy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:51pm On Jul 29, 2021
EnlightenedUFO:
Mad man, have you taken your drugs today?
He needs valium to calm him down and he cannot get original valium in Umudike. The only valium available in Umudike is made in india and those are not good. Let the cursed mental midget carry on with his lunacy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by EnlightenedUFO: 7:56pm On Jul 29, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
He needs valium to calm him down and he cannot get original in Umudike. The only valium available in Umudike is made in india and those are not good. Let the cursed mental midget carry on with his lunacy.
The fool yaps too much. I wonder how his people contain him at home with his running tap water mouth just pouring out gutter waste.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:57pm On Jul 29, 2021
Ibime:
No, you were excited. Wetin consign you with how FBI handle their operations.

It's good you said you don't know anything about them. Like I said, you don't know much about the nuances of what you bring to this thread from your far right echo chamber that makes people call you a coon. Today you have brought the boogaloo boys to us and even defended them, not knowing the nature of who they are. Probably had them as patriots and anti-lockdown, democrat-haters in your mind and heroes to you therefore, not knowing the bigger picture which is that they will kill you on sight for the colour of your skin if no one is watching.
Oya show me where I defend boogaloo boys? You just like a leech sucking on lies.

No matter who they are the fbi should not entrap anyone. Common sense. If you like talk from now till tomorrow, truth is absolutely and nothing you can say will change the truth.

The case is ongoing and will see what role the fbi played. They have done this before and the judge found the act of the fbi entrapment wrong and acquitted the accused. This was in 2012.

You be person wey fit plant drugs for person car. You no get any sense of morality at all.

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