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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 8:07pm On Jul 30, 2021
haha lol

Odunayaw:
grin Scam

That's an airsoft shooter abeg
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by RiceProducers: 8:17pm On Jul 30, 2021
GeneralFarouq:
1.Nigeria has jurisdiction. Through subjective test...A citizen alleged to commit official corruption while acting in official capacity


2. US also have jurisdiction using objective test since using dollars for fruad has economic or political damage on their country...
US has a better jurisdiction following international law.... Because Objective test always supercedes the subjective test.


3. The place where the crime was committed also has jurisdiction(also subjective jurisdiction) At the end of the day it a matter of balancing where agreement btw the countries, the place where fixed evidence are located amongst other things.
and then looking at the disadvantage the defendant will face if transported to an entirely foreign justification, the cost of procuring lawyers. Etc...
It may even be a defence if the alleged defendant says he does not intend the crime he may have committed to have effect in the U.S. because...
A. The transaction took place in Dubai
B. They are both Nigerian citizens and where contemplating to be tried if in any event they were arrested by a Nigerian court S4(2) Criminal Code....

Plus it even a good thing he was on holiday... Otherwise US could hold Nigeria accountable by saying Abba acted as an agent of Nigeria... And sanctions follows....
Amongst all three, US has the best Jurisdiction...
This is the kind of analysis I like. It is made from some depth of legal knowledge not some beer parlor exposition of layman's opinion.

The US was 'hurt' by Kyari's crime but how does that make it a criminal offence if it was not done in the US? .
Also, what if Kyari claims he was on a sting operation to trap Hushpuppi's gang which was what the idiot should have done in the first place?.
Can the US interfere in a Nigerian Police operation?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 8:23pm On Jul 30, 2021
sizzorchan:
At the end of the day, this request will be determined as acceptable or not by a Nigerian judge. it's all about merits.
Regardless who has jurisdiction. besides Nigeria hasn't started any criminal proceedings against the accused, but they need to look into it. too many dirty cops out there
Kashamu case comes to mind
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 8:23pm On Jul 30, 2021
grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 8:35pm On Jul 30, 2021
I'm glad he didn't. a potential dirty cop lying to get away from being held accountable is the last thing we need grin. Don't coach him i beg grin.
besides then he have to show the paperwork for that sting operation and which superior signed off on it. Then he will have to produce the money he was given, which at this point should be in evidence lol. but I'm sure most , if not all of that money is gone


RiceProducers:
This is the kind of analysis I like. It is made from some depth of legal knowledge not some beer parlor exposition of layman's opinion.

The US was 'hurt' by Kyari's crime but how does that make it a criminal offence if it was not done in the US? .
Also, what if Kyari claims he was on a sting operation to trap Hushpuppi's gang which was what the idiot should have done in the first place?.
Can the US interfere in a Nigerian Police operation?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ddream6627(m): 8:36pm On Jul 30, 2021
sizzorchan:
I still wonder how most of una dey here alive and well while boatloads of people dey die daily in that disgusting wretched country (sarcasm). I wonder. I'm genuinely curious how many of you guys have actually been victimized in that same Nigeria. Have you been shot? raped? have your home burglarized etc. Most bad sh!t most ppl probably have to deal with was give bribes to cops, what else? I get that there is economic hardship, show me where same isn't true around the world.
I'm not saying Nigeria doesn't have huge issues, but so is the rest of the world, and spending your every living moment to rant on here won't solve the problems.
My parents live right there in Ondo State, 78yrs on this earth, my father has yet to experience any danger that threatened his life, got brothers and sisters all over that same country, and they are alive and well. So what threat have you experienced? pls share. Or you guys just love disseminating rumors without actually witnessing most of these things.
Nigeria bad. rest of the world good. Go to Ecuador, and these latin American countries, then perhaps you'd understand the meaning of crimes. dont tear down your own.
ranting won't make it better. trying to fix it will.
And Oga Dubai, hopefully your issues with fulanis will be resolved in ur life time, hang in there. Me go hold down this Eldorado for ya
no sane citizen find happiness in making fun in bad incidents that happens in his or her country,and if your families haven't experience threat that threatens their Life doesn't mean some family haven't experience it.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 8:37pm On Jul 30, 2021
And this one wey Josco is MIA, hope he's okay grin. we need some rambo intel

Roan77:
A lot of news outlets are saying the wing Loong 2 was delivered, but no confirmation from NAF yet.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 8:41pm On Jul 30, 2021
what are you talking about? you think I'm happy that lives are lost in Nigeria? or what are you trying to say?
And my point remain thesame. ppl come here to scream FIRE all the time and give the appearance of a country where people can't even go outside, I'm saying that's not the case. and i never once said there weren't dangers in the country. show me which country is free of same.
So you totally misunderstood me. but I'm not spending another day going forth and back on this.
Ddream6627:
no sane citizen find happiness in making fun in bad incidents that happens in his or her country,and if your families haven't experience threat that threatens their Life doesn't mean some family haven't experience it.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Roan77: 8:58pm On Jul 30, 2021
sizzorchan:
And this one wey Josco is MIA, hope he's okay grin. we need some rambo intel
grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 8:59pm On Jul 30, 2021
Covert1:
The brand of weed you are smoking makes you oblivious of your grand delusions to think those paid for the job are delusional. Go ahead and search for copy and paste material.

Just imagine the expensive joke of putting Angola, Ethiopia, Kenya and Sudan in the same box with Nigeria. South Africa may be marginally considered but this must give you a new high to even dare come up with such grand adventurous military concupisence.
Its all very well ranting and making noise like erring schoolboys. But at least let there be some semblance of rational if not substance to your propositions.

So, lets do a perfunctory summary of these air forces that you have dismissed with such unguarded disdain and make comparison with esteemed and the absurd claim of NAF unrivalled domination in sub Saharan Africa. Just one proviso, we are looking at offensive attack aircraft primarily.

Kenyan Air force
-23 F5E Attack jet aircraft and 12 short Tucano CAS. 6 Cobra, 7 bell UH1 and 45 M500, 13 Puma 330, etc approximately 100 attack/ utility helicopters.

Sudanese Air force – 20 F7, 20 SU 25, 20 Q5, 12 SU35, 10 Mig 29(refurbished and upgraded locally by Sudan) etc total jet attack aircraft approx. 100. Sudanese air force attack aircraft incl. helicopters: 43 Mi 24/35, Mi-8/17/171 26, various others total attack helicopters close to 100. UAV's 50+ Iranian and Chines various.

Finally, COIN turbo prop aircraft with precision guided munitions, the single engine similar to A29 Tucano is Sudan’s SAFAT-03. Locally manufactured since 2015. See pictures below.

Ethiopian air force – 20 SU27, 10 Mig 23, 10 L39, 40 attack jet fighter aircraft. Helicopters attack / utility 8 Mi24 & 14 Mi7 total 22.

South African air force – Saab Gripen 39 26. BAE Hawk 23, total 49 attack air craft. Attack/ utility helicopters 12 Rooivalk, 43 Oryx (puma 330) Augusta 109 25 total 80. SA produces a lot of air craft components and as well as its own air craft so its impossible to really know their true inventory of aircraft.

Angolan air force- 80+ attack jet fighter aircraft 13 SU30,12 SU25, 12 SU 22, 45 MIG 21/23 and 6 A29’S. Attack helicopters Mi-8,17,171 = 66, Mi 24/35 = 14, Gazelle 8 and other variants approx. total 100+.

The unrivalled most superior air – force in Sub Saharan Africa the NAF; Attack aircraft Alpha jet 13, F7 (Chinese Mig. 21) 9, JF7 Thunder 3, L & MB339 12 and turboprop A29 attack CAS 6, Total attack aircraft 37. Attack helicopters and UAV’s; Mi-17/171 -5, Mi 24/35- 15, various others 16. UAV’s estimated 8.

So can some people stop smoking strong weed and being delusional and have a reality check. In the cold light of day can we say the NAF is comprehensively superior to any of the afore mentioned air-forces.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 9:09pm On Jul 30, 2021
willybaby:
South African special forces on deployment to Mozambique.. loving the helmet
This isn't practical, it will severely limit the field of vision of whoever puts it on.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:10pm On Jul 30, 2021
willybaby:
South African special forces on deployment to Mozambique.. loving the helmet
Why do you think this is an actual soldier?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 9:10pm On Jul 30, 2021
Whyem15:
This isn't practical, it will severely limit the field of vision of whoever puts it on.
That's an airsoft player in the UK, not a soldier.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 9:19pm On Jul 30, 2021
GabrielYulaw:
Please read again. I wasn't making an exact quote. I was making an example of what we like to do in the area of procurement. That's why we have equipment from almost every country in the world and enough varieties of small arms to guarantee a logistical nightmare.

As for the Tucanos, you and I can agree to disagree. But I would be very interested in hearing what you would purchase if you had $600 million in the bank.
I have been waiting for the response of Bidexii it seems for ever.

You are the most prolific contributor to this particular forum , but you have gone VERY SILENT.

I want to be educated , informed possibly challenged by a well thought out substantive write up that will bring value to this discourse.

But there is deafening silence.

Apart from yourself not one person has made a constructive contribution that is factual, well thought out and substantive TO DATE.

Are we adolescents that just like pictures and delusional praise singing huh And have a preference for FABLES over FACTS.huh
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 9:53pm On Jul 30, 2021
sizzorchan:
And this one wey Josco is MIA, hope he's okay grin. we need some rambo intel
grin grin grin Josco's other identities have been active all along... grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 10:06pm On Jul 30, 2021
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by willybaby(m): 10:20pm On Jul 30, 2021
Odunayaw:
grin Scam

That's an airsoft shooter abeg
huh Airsoft, came across the pic online actually shared it it the caption
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by willybaby(m): 10:23pm On Jul 30, 2021
GeneralFarouq:
1.Nigeria has jurisdiction. Through subjective test...A citizen alleged to commit official corruption while acting in official capacity


2. US also have jurisdiction using objective test since using dollars for fruad has economic or political damage on their country...
US has a better jurisdiction following international law.... Because Objective test always supercedes the subjective test.


3. The place where the crime was committed also has jurisdiction(also subjective jurisdiction) At the end of the day it a matter of balancing where agreement btw the countries, the place where fixed evidence are located amongst other things.
and then looking at the disadvantage the defendant will face if transported to an entirely foreign justification, the cost of procuring lawyers. Etc...
It may even be a defence if the alleged defendant says he does not intend the crime he may have committed to have effect in the U.S. because...
A. The transaction took place in Dubai
B. They are both Nigerian citizens and where contemplating to be tried if in any event they were arrested by a Nigerian court S4(2) Criminal Code....

Plus it even a good thing he was on holiday... Otherwise US could hold Nigeria accountable by saying Abba acted as an agent of Nigeria... And sanctions follows....
Amongst all three, US has the best Jurisdiction...
thanks for this analysis, unbiased indept and educating. All those asslickers who will be tying up and down come and learn
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by willybaby(m): 10:25pm On Jul 30, 2021
kabe1:
Why do you think this is an actual soldier?
the picture had a caption I just came across it online loved it and shared
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:48pm On Jul 30, 2021
willybaby:
the picture had a caption I just came across it online loved it and shared
That's an Airsoft player in the UK.

That's not a soldier.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:29pm On Jul 30, 2021
10 pages within 14hrs. I scrolled to see pictures but all i met was abba kyari talk. Una no try o
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by NafeesaAA(f): 11:31pm On Jul 30, 2021
RiceProducers:
This is the kind of analysis I like. It is made from some depth of legal knowledge not some beer parlor exposition of layman's opinion.

The US was 'hurt' by Kyari's crime but how does that make it a criminal offence if it was not done in the US? .
Also, what if Kyari claims he was on a sting operation to trap Hushpuppi's gang which was what the idiot should have done in the first place?.
Can the US interfere in a Nigerian Police operation?
The US has peculiar laws;

For instance, you can sue Shell in the US for Offenses Shell committed in Nigeria. Nestle was just sued in the US for offences alleged to have been engaged in the Ivory Coast.

If you pick up your phone in Kano and call a US citizen in Alabama and commit fraud, you have committed fraud in the US. It does not matter if you were in Kano or Kaduna.

There is a case in the US where a Nigerian drug dealer sold drugs to Americans while he was based in Liberia (not too sure). The US Marshals extradited him to the US. His defence was that he never went to the US; the US courts said he was liable.

This is super cops case; he has broken many laws; first and most important, this was a conspiracy; thus, the rules used to take down the Mob are applied here.

He was a co-conspirator in a fraud scheme. He Illegally arrested and falsely imprisoned another person to enable the crime to proceed. He received stolen goods, by Transfer, by Wire. Thus he enabled Transfer of stolen goods, Profiting from proceeds of a crime. Money laundering and Wire fraud.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 12:19am On Jul 31, 2021
Nigerian Navy Pilots Succesfully Conduct Blue Water/Deep Sea Search & Rescue Operation of A Stricken Vessel At Sea. This Is Not A Drill.

Wow! This just leaves you breathless. This is our own NN not the US Navy or Hollywood. The NN has had a run of breathtaking good news recently from industrial scale Naval Ship building to world class Search & Rescue Ops.

This Navy is making us proud at every turn from rescue of pirate victims at sea by NNSBS commandos to anti-BHT/ISWAP kill or capture operations by NNSBS Special Warfare Desert Operators to advanced Falcon Eye capabilities and now this. These things show what is possible with a powerful and peaceful Nigeria.

You can't help but be proud watching this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcYKCE0yEwc
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by sizzorchan: 12:34am On Jul 31, 2021
lol. you said it. not me ooo.
i don't want wahala. grin

Lurker4Long:
grin grin grin Josco's other identities have been active all along... grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 12:52am On Jul 31, 2021
This Nigerian right here will make you proud
to be a black man, african and a Nigerian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840XWjnt9wc
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 12:56am On Jul 31, 2021
Whyem15:
If the government is going to hire mercenaries, is it the chief of army staff that will do it?




Which media reported this?


The source of the website is "United African Fund", anyone heard of it before or has a link?
STTEP didn't have a contract directly with Nigerian government either, he was contracted by a company owned by Asari.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Coolliot: 5:42am On Jul 31, 2021
Covert1:
Nigerian Navy Pilots Succesfully Conduct Blue Water/Deep Sea Search & Rescue Operation of A Stricken Vessel At Sea. This Is Not A Drill.

Wow! This just leaves you breathless. This is our own NN not the US Navy or Hollywood. The NN has had a run of breathtaking good news recently from industrial scale Naval Ship building to world class Search & Rescue Ops.

This Navy is making us proud at every turn from rescue of pirate victims at sea by NNSBS commandos to anti-BHT/ISWAP kill or capture operations by NNSBS Special Warfare Desert Operators to advanced Falcon Eye capabilities and now this. These things show what is possible with a powerful and peaceful Nigeria.

You can't help but be proud watching this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcYKCE0yEwc
This is most likely a training exercise....that's a ship, ships carry boat, ship and boat can see the victim, why wait for helicopter from long rain to do what boat and ship can do. Come to think of it, some of this Augusta helicopters are more than 20 years. I think we would be getting the bigger aw139 as time goes on.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Coolliot:
It's like lai Mohammed doesn't get carried along or gets updates, they just leave him to be making speech, based on ideas not on fact, same thing couple of people here and that Twitter mad man.

https://punchng.com/national-assembly-plans-to-meet-us-congress-over-875m-weapons-deal-stoppage/?amp

Okay, Firstly Nigerian air force doesn't use single engine helicopters, especially for attack helicopters, and only modern cobras are 2 engines, the viper and venom, secondly only modern cobras use apkws, and we want to order 2000 apkws, the only order option, that is single engine and can fire apkws, and is old is used by the Jordanian air force, and it has been upgraded to the standard of modern cobras, only that it's on an old airframe.....and the Jordanians are in the process of retiring their cobras and even sold some, only that the ones sold were not the upgraded ones.

Could it be, that it's the upgraded Jordanian cobras, we want to buy? Because i don't see Nigeria buying tokunbo cobras without glass cockpit and modern sighting systems.

Also the price range is within the limit of what other countries are bidding or have paid for similar Quantities.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 7:29am On Jul 31, 2021
Coolliot:
It's like lai Mohammed doesn't get carried along or gets updates, they just leave him to be making speech, based on ideas not on fact, same thing couple of people here and that Twitter mad man.

https://punchng.com/national-assembly-plans-to-meet-us-congress-over-875m-weapons-deal-stoppage/?amp

Okay, Firstly Nigerian air force doesn't use single engine helicopters, especially for attack helicopters, and only modern cobras are 2 engines, the viper and venom, secondly only modern cobras use apkws, and we want to order 2000 apkws, the only order option, that is single engine and can fire apkws, and is old is used by the Jordanian air force, and it has been upgraded to the standard of modern cobras, only that it's on an old airframe.....and the Jordanians are in the process of retiring their cobras and even sold some, only that the ones sold were not the upgraded ones.

Could it be, that it's the upgraded Jordanian cobras, we want to buy? Because i don't see Nigeria buying tokunbo cobras without glass cockpit and modern sighting systems.

Also the price range is within the limit of what other countries are bidding or have paid for similar Quantities.
Lai Mohammed is a member of the federal executive council, ordinarily he should be more aware of any such deal more than the national assembly unless this was supposed to be a secret deal or maybe Lai Mohammed is doing his thing.
Unless the national assembly was notified of the deal by the executive branch of government or they had a more detailed version of the supplementary budget, I do not see how they should know more than Lai Mohammed.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 7:40am On Jul 31, 2021
Whyem15:
Lai Mohammed is a member of the federal executive council, ordinarily he should be more aware of any such deal more than the national assembly unless this was supposed to be a secret deal or maybe Lai Mohammed is doing his thing.
Unless the national assembly was notified of the deal by the executive branch of government or they had a more detailed version of the supplementary budget, I do not see how they should know more than Lai Mohammed.
I agree with this.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 7:41am On Jul 31, 2021
Nigerian Army prototype armored airboat/hovercraft.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii(op): 7:42am On Jul 31, 2021
Whyem15:
Lai Mohammed is a member of the federal executive council, ordinarily he should be more aware of any such deal more than the national assembly unless this was supposed to be a secret deal or maybe Lai Mohammed is doing his thing.
Unless the national assembly was notified of the deal by the executive branch of government or they had a more detailed version of the supplementary budget, I do not see how they should know more than Lai Mohammed.
Bro that's by the book and Naija it's a one entirely strange country. The old man might not be aware of the deal.
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