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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:48am On Aug 02, 2021*. Modified: 6:24pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
I asked Ibime a question about vaccine shots. I said this companies are using the vaccine to make billions and propably do not want this pandemic to go but he is smart so he feels it's conspiracy theory I am spreading. https://twitter.com/Mockingjay20211/status/1421557408480915457?s=19 I am still asking, is there any difference between the first and second shot of the vaccine with the booster shot? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:11am On Aug 02, 2021 |
sanpipita:COVID-19 has not been seen in any bat occuring naturally. Its Sars virus, as some virologists have said, someone took the sars virus , modified it and it became COVID-19. By adding some protein spikes or something like that. Then it leaked to human beings accidentally or intentionally. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:15am On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:Pfizer dose is being bought by govts for 19 dollars per dose. They will sell say 3-4 billion doses by the time herd immunity is achieved. The booster dose adds another 3 or 4 billion doses. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:33am On Aug 02, 2021 |
basilico:Me I want to know if it's different, when it was developed, when testing was carried out etc. I said I suspected they made half ass vaccine and this is exactly why. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:37am On Aug 02, 2021 |
sanpipita:It was created in the lab. Even a baby that is 4months in the womb of his mother knows this. Covid is a Sars like virus but could not affect humans from its host. They experimented and added proteins that enable it get into the human defence mechanism. It was engineered. Asked Dr. Fauci, he helped funded this research called gain of function. They created a virus that does not exist and try to prepare for it who does that? See how many people that have died and they are still claiming to be having complications here and there. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:04am On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:If Trump had said it was not China that made the COVID-19 , the left would be crucifying China. The left like many people here , take the opposite position of conservative Its easy to know their thoughts. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:14am On Aug 02, 2021 |
Donald Trump Wins $1Million Tax Refund On His Chicago Skyscraper For Overpayment. Trump overpaid taxes and he is due for a refund. Taxing him for unoccupied business units at the same rate as the rented units. This story is all over CNN. if you cant find it on CNN, try here https://100percentfedup.com/donald-trump-wins-1million-tax-refund-on-his-chicago-skyscraper-for-overpayment-raging-leftist-kim-foxx-want-to-block-it/ |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:45am On Aug 02, 2021*. Modified: 9:10am On Aug 02, 2021 |
If we have learned anything in the protests, riots, looting, and violence that follows after the death of George Floyd, it is about the power of hate. All this started because a cop killed a man using a questionable technique for a ridiculously long time. This was yet another example of a police officer using his authority and position in this case literally, and the conversation should have been about the lack of training lack of discipline, lack of oversight and questionable hiring practices in police departments, but that did not happen because the officer Derek Chauvin is white and the man he killed, George Floyd is black. The conversation became all about racism even though it is not clear that racism was a factor in Chauvin’s actions. The usual suspects, like Black Lives Matter, Antifa and a number of other far left Marxist groups exploited the country's anger over Floyd's death and spun into little more than a mob revolt. For all the peaceful protests, there were riots, looting, shootings, stabbings, assaults, and murders, most of which were ignored or downplayed by the left leaning press in favour of the race based narratives: that all cops are racists and are hunting black people and that all white people are racist and need to apologize for the privilege of having low melanin. Even the peaceful protest evolved into pushing this narrative, which quickly led to some of the most openly racist language in the US in decades and virtually all of it directed at white people. Part of this is likely due to the countries Frustration to being in lockdown for months due to the global pandemic. There is only so long that most people can bear being kept inside, especially as the summer approach and the opportunity to go out and protest presented people with the chance to vent. An act that apparently PREVENTS THE SPREAD of the virus BUT ONLY WHEN THERE IS A PROTEST AGAINST RACISM or for abolishing the police, but that was only part of the reason. The real reason is that, this racial divide has been building up for years, Stoked primarily by the left pushed to the forefront by progressives, and finally evangelized by the Socialist Marxist fringes on the far left, and make no mistake, THIS HAS BECOME A RELIGION complete with it's Saints, it's doctrines, it's altars it’s questionable truths and it's demons. It's the demons we’re going to talk about because no mask movement works without a demon. Something to stoke the most potent unifying agent imaginable, hatred. Eric Hoffer best describes this in the book “The True Believer”. In the book, Hoffer Explains exactly how mass movements form, flourish and fail, and why most of those things happened. I could go on writing about this book for days because it so perfectly explains everything we witnessed not only in the Riots and events that took place after the death of George Floyd, but since 2008. It explains the Tea Party, MODERN FEMINISM, Trump Derangement syndrome, and what happened to the progressive left, specifically how the far left uses hatred to gain power. I am going to focus on Hoffer section “The hatred” and I want you nairalanders to keep the far left in mind because this is going to come together so fast it will be unreal, Hoffer says of hatred quote “hatred is the most successful and comprehensive of all unifying agents. It pulls in worldly individual away from his own self, makes him oblivious of his wheel and future breeze him of his jealousies and self-seeking. He becomes an anonymous particle quivering with the craving to fuse and coalesce with this like into one flaming mass”. And that's exactly what we've seen in the riot with scores of people worldwide falling into this groupthink delusion that the world, the United States in particular has never been more racist. Racism is like the wolf loop sneaking between their collective social mass infecting them, making THEM carriers even when they show no symptoms. In the US, you know you could catch the racism and be racist without actually doing anything racist? Why, you can even marry a black woman, have bi-racial kids, and still be racist. For everyone with a functioning brain, that sounds ridiculous, but for the true believers it sounds like gospel but as Hoffer says, quote “mass movements can rise and spread without belief in God, but never without belief in the devil. Usually the strength of the mass movement is proportionate to the vividness intangibility of its devil. When Hitler was asked whether he thought the Jew must be destroyed, he answered: “No... we should have to invent him. It is essential to have a tangible enemy, not merely an abstract one.”Every mass movement that works as a villain, an antagonist, an adversary, usually one who's presented as virtually omnipotent and omnipresent. The enemy can be defeated eventually, but not right now. Right now, the enemy is too strong, so strong that it is holding them back, preventing them from living their lives or pressing them in every waking moment, like when they go protesting in the hundreds of thousands in dozens of cities. Every local Government allows protesters to ignore health warnings in regards to the pandemic. When I say it out loud it sounds ridiculous, but this is exactly what happened. You have people screaming at cops and treating cops as if they were the secret police, but no one gets hit, No one gets silenced, Few people get arrested, many who were arrested, got released. It is all in their heads just like their claims about racism and white people. In a nation where they fought a civil war to abolish slavery, passed legislation in the heat of Jim Crow and segregation to protect the civil rights of people of all races, where the racist South voted in large numbers for the country's first black president BARRACK OBAMA; Not once but twice. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:47am On Aug 02, 2021 |
Supposedly, white people have never been more racist, they're so racist they don't even know they’re racists. In fact, when they claimed not to be racist, that is just their white fragility talking. Like I said, it sounds silly, but it serves a purpose. As Hoffer recounts in his book, quote “F.A Voigt tells of a Japanese mission that arrived in Berlin in 1932 to study the nationalist socialist movement. Void asked a member of the mission what he thought of the movement. He replied, it is magnificent. I wish we could have something like that in Japan, only we can't because we haven't gotten any Jews.In other words, it is not an accident that the far left choose white people as the adversaries. This is a majority, in targeting them instantly conjures feelings of agreement from the disaffected, the people who usually make up the bulk of a mass movement. Hoffer breaks down disaffected into a series of groups. The poor, misfits, outcasts, minorities, adolescent, youth, ambitious, those in the grip of some advice, or obsession. The impotent in body or mind, the inordinately selfish, the board and the sinners. Most of those are self-explanatory, but I want to focus on two groups, the poor and the minorities. Hoffer breaks down the poor into several groups as well, the new poor and abjectly poor free poor, creative poor and unified poor. Again, most of those are self-explanatory. But he says at the end, gently poor that the quote Intensity of discontent is directly proportionate to the degree of misery. This content is likely to be the highest when misery is bearable in conditions have so improved that an ideal state seems almost within reach. A grievance is most poignant in his, almost redressed, In other words, the more you get what you want, the more you focus on the things you do not have when you look at racism in the West, especially in the US, it is largely reviled. Most people aren't overtly or covertly racist. They may have their biases, but few of these really rise to the level of Saying a Person is outright bigoted against an entire race of people. Minorities, for the most part, can reach any level of Western society. Even becoming the President of the United States, this doesn't mean that minorities won't face discrimination or that remnants of the country’s more racist Past doesn't still affect modern society, it only means that it's nowhere near as bad as it once was, and pretending that it is because you're not getting everything you want is insane, but it's also useful for mass movements because of a very basic reality, as Hoffer explained. Quote They who clamour. Loudest for freedom are often the ones least likely to be happy in a free society. . The frustrated oppressed by the shortcomings blame their failure on existing restraints. Actually, they're innermost desires for an end to the free, for all they want to eliminate free competition in the ruthless testing to which the individual is continually subjected in a free society.And I think the best illustration of this is a University of Washington saying that black students shouldn't face difficult exams in time restraints because they're too busy fighting for their rights, which, as far as I can tell, has been completely supported by the left. In general, black people in particular. Why would black People support this? Why would they support something that basically says they're either too stupid or too lazy, or both to pass basic exams? Why would anyone who felt that they were being thought less of as a result of their race support something that literally treats them like lesser beings because of their race? Hoffer gives a reason quote A minority is in the precarious position, however protected it maybe by law or force, the frustration engendered by the unavoidable sense of insecurity is less intense in the minority intent on preserving its identity. Then in one bent upon dissolving in and blending with the majority.Have you ever noticed that many minority communities, especially the black community, have a fixation on the idea of acting White? If a black American says, “listen to my voice. This is my white voice. This is literally how I taught myself to speak to get rid of the black accent”. To be continued |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:12am On Aug 02, 2021 |
Why I like Andrew Klavan. His wisdom and presentation is just spot on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zS0fMJ-Zt8 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:07pm On Aug 02, 2021*. Modified: 12:38pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:How will they do that? By pronouncing words as properly as he can by speaking basic proper American English, and that alone means he is acting white being smart, not even doing well in school but literally, just being intelligent and showing it is ACTING WHITE. I could go down the list of all the random things that can result in acting white accusations and you'll quickly notice a pattern. All of these things are the norm there. What the majority who happens to be white does. The real issue isn't that the majority is white, but that the majority Isn't black. Black people have no separate identity, no group identity outside of what was forced on them by virtue of being slaves, and so the underlying desire within the black community as a whole is to fit in, to dissolve into the majority. But they can't, they're aware of how they're different, and so, as Hoffer says, quote “in the minority bent on simulation, the individual stands alone, pitted against prejudice and discrimination. He is also burdened with a sense of guilt, however vague, of a renegade. The Orthodox Jew is less frustrated than the emancipated chew, the segregated Negro in the South is less frustrated than a non-segregated Negro in the north. Again within a minority bent on the assimilation, the least and most successful (economically and culturally) are likely to be more frustrated than those in between. The man who fails to see himself as an outsider; and, in the case of a member of Minority Group who wants to blend with the majority, failure intensifies the feeling of not belonging.And that's what we've been seeing when you think about all the complaints about representation, what do they usually come down to? desire to be the norm, the majority, to fit in, it’s not just enough to have black characters, they have to be the main characters. Always good, always better than the usual majority and always love. Nothing irritates the woke blacks more than people rejecting their attempt to replace the majority with the minority. Because you're rejecting their attempt to fit in. Unless you accept them, then they're even more pissed which makes no sense until you realize the problem. If you accept them, they become the norm. They become assimilated and they lose their unique identity, the only way this works is if they remain this perpetual state of almost being accepted the moment they're completely rejected or accepted the whole thing breaks down. This is why having a common threat of hatred is so powerful, because it allows them to transfer that need of identity away from assimilation. Hoffer gets into this quote, common hatred unites the most heterogeneous elements. To share a common hatred, with an enemy even, is to infect him with the feeling of kinship, and thus sap is powers of resistance. Hitler used anti-Semitism not only to unify his Germans, but also to sap the resoluteness Jew-hating Poland, Romania, Hungary and finally even France. He made a similar use of anti communism.This explains a constant refrain of everything being white supremacy. White people have become a singular devil, so every ill even something like police brutality, which is directed more at whites than blacks suddenly stems from white supremacy. Everything goes back to whiteness being evil, infecting everything and being everywhere. As Hoffer says, quote Again like an ideal deity, the ideal devil is omnipotent and omnipresent. When Hitler was asked whether he was not attributing rather too much importance to the Jews. He exclaimed: no, no, no! it’s impossible to exaggerate the formidable quality of the Jew as an enemy. Every difficulty and failure within the movement is the work of the devil, and every success is a triumph over his evil plotting.It's like I'm reading from a Black Lives Matter play book, isn't it? or feminist playbook or Marxist playbook? Or a NEO con playbook? You could find that one group to hate to pin everything on and then milk it. Make it so that the most benign things, even faults and conflicts within your own movement go back to this all powerful ever present devil. What really gets interesting is that one of the driving elements of Black Lives Matter is allyship, getting people to share their hatred directed at white people, especially if those people are themselves white. Hoffer says this about allies quote WE DO NOT USUALLY LOOK FOR ALLIES WHEN WE LOVE. Indeed, we often look on those who love us as rivals and trespassers, BUT WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR ALLIES WHEN WE HATE. it is understandable that we should look for other so side with us when we have just grievance and crave to retaliate against those who wronged us.I think this has become very obvious over the past year. What begins as a reasonable question about how cops treats black People quickly dissolved into labeling society, The West and white people in particular, as uniformly racist and demanded that everyone agree with this. Literally, upon pain of property destruction, social harassment, better known as cancel culture, and flat out physical violence. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:34pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
People have lost their jobs or disagreeing with BLM or saying something as benign as all lives matter or for their wives making statements on social media. All of this shows that the hatred being displayed by BLM and likeminded black people general, along with all the others, is mostly unreasonable and unjustified. The intensity of the anger is well beyond what actually happens to the point that we're treating clear situations of cops defending themselves as first degree felony murder. We're seeing numerous examples of black people threatening or attacking white people, who then defend themselves, and that reasonable defense is being treated as yet another example of white supremacy as Hoffer asked quote whence come these unreasonable hatreds, and why their unifying effect? They are an expression of a desperate effort to suppress an awareness of our inadequacy. Worthlessness, guilt and other shortcomings of the self. self-contempt is here transmuted into hatred of others. And there is a most determined and persistent work to mask this switchI'm not going to mince words. The black community doesn't really think highly of itself. The community itself smacks down any black people or attempt to show genuine pride in who they are. The more individualized that pride, the more anger and resentment is sparks. Ironically, if you achieve any real success. You're expected to give back to the community that shunned you, even as they keep showing you. so when you have a group of people who genuinely believe they're lesser than those around them, anything that points that out will anger them, but nothing nearly as much as pointing out that most of that is self-imposed. It could stop if they wanted it to. They have the power to lift themselves out of their situation. Not entirely, but mostly they have a bum leg, but they can still stand. they're just choosing not to, and waiting for someone to pull them up and hold them. But when someone tries to do it, they slap away their hand and when someone else with a bum leg gets up on his own, they either shut him down or cheers success and in both cases expect him to take them with him. All while trashing him for doing something they didn't even try to do now, that doesn't mean that black people don't face social problems that make it harder for them to achieve things. That would be a lie, but most of those problems are nowhere near what they used to be, not in the West, and definitely not in the US. It may be harder for them in certain circumstances, but it's not impossible. And that scares a lot of black people because it would mean they are responsible for their own situation and not someone else. Hoffer explains this quote even in the case of adjust grievance, our hatred comes less from a wrong done to us that from the consciousness of our helplessness, inadequacy and cowardice. In other words, from self-contempt. When we feel superior to our tormentors, We're likely to despise them, even pity them, but not hate them. That the relation between grievance and hatred is not simple and direct is also seen from the fact that the released hatred is not always directed against those who wronged us. Often, when we are wronged by one person, we turn our hatred on a wholly unrelated person or group.I think this is what's happening with targeting white people. The complaint really should be directed at the individuals responsible or the government and social institutions. Not entire race of people and black people know this. This is why so many have redefined racism to require institutionalized power, because if they didn't, their actions and attitudes will be considered racist. They try to cover up their unjust attitudes and actions. Specifically, their overt racism towards white people, which incidentally gives white people a damn good grievance against black people. Hoffer gets into this quote. There's perhaps no sure way of infecting ourselves with virulent hatred toward a person than by doing him a grave injustice, the others have a just grievance against us is a more potent reason for hating them Than that we have a just grievance against them, we do not make people humble and meek when we show them their fault and cause them to be ashamed of themselves, we are more likely to stir their arrogant and rouse him into a reckless aggressiveness. Self-righteousness is a loud din raised to drown the voice of guilt within us.and that's exactly what we've been seeing over the last few years, with articles and respected magazines and papers stating that white people will be the minority and that they will be bred out of existence that talk only Stokes are very white kinship that these activists claim they don't want to see where it gets really interesting is that ultimately, black People want to be white, not skin wise, but socially they want to be the norm. The preferred, the desired. The majority. They have this weird admiration for why people, even as a hate them and Hoffer explains this quote. It is easier to hate an enemy with much good in him than one who is all bad. We cannot hate those we despise. The Japanese had an advantage over us and that they admired us more than we admired them. They could hate us more fervently than we could hate them. The Americans are poor haters in international affairs because of their innate feeling of superiority over all foreigners. And Americans hatred for a fellow American is far more virulent than any antipathy he can work up against foreigners. It is of interest that the backward South shows more xenophobia than the rest of the country. Should Americans begin to hate foreigners wholeheartedly, it will be an indication that they have lost confidence in their own way of life.This goes to show that this mentality isn't limited to the left. It affects everyone. Offer also mentions another interesting trait. These groups copy the people they hate quote the undercurrent of admiration and hatred manifests itself in the inclination to imitate those we hate. thus every mass movement shapes itself after its specific devil. Christianity at its height Realized the image of the Antichrist. The Jacobins practiced all the evils of the tyranny they had risen against. Soviet Russia is realizing the purest and most colossal example of monopolistic capitalism. Hitler took the protocols of the wise Men of Zion for his guide and textbook; He followed them down to the veriest detail.This is why you're seeing so many anti fascists behaving like fascists. Why feminists push sexist policies. Why the Black Lives Matter movement sounds like the Ku Klux Klan. It's not an accident like Hoffer says quote. It is startling to see how the oppressed almost invariably shape themselves in the image of their hated oppressors, that the evil men do lives after them is partly due to the fact that those who have reason to hate the evil most shape themselves after it and thus perpetuating it is obvious, therefore, that the influence of the fanatic is bound to be out of all proportion to his abilities, both by converting and antagonizing, he shapes the world in his own image. Thus, though hatred is a convenient instrument for mobilizing the community for defense, it does not in the long run, come cheap. We pay for it by losing all or many of the values we have set out to defend.And that's what we're seeing. The far left has become the very totalitarian authoritarian force it hates. Black Lives Matter is as racist as a white supremacy sees a lurking in every good credit score. All this does is destroy any ability to uphold the values they claim they hold. You can't be anti-racist and say white people have no identity but black people do. You can't be anti-racist if you want black people to face lesser sentences and charges. You can't be anti-racist if you want black people to have easier exams to pass or greater access to jobs and anyone else or be allowed to use abusive and bigoted language, no one else can use. You can't be anti-racist if you support people targeting white people for abuse and violence because they're white. All of these things undermine the values they claim they hold and will only lead to more problems, not less as a great short Green Man once said, fear leads to anger, Anger leads to hate, Hate leads to suffering. Nothing good comes from the race baiting we're seeing from the far left. It will only further divide people and ironically gives a target of that hatred. White people a genuine valid reason to fear and hate black people. they're creating the very monster they seek to destroy. And as history has shown, it's not a monster they can control. So maybe they want to dial it back before they find themselves on the receiving end of an AR15. But what do I know? Umudikean like me |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 1:44pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
The Latest writeup if for Appleyard, Goodvibes007, Livelystone01 and budaatum We talked about race and society and The write up is how I feel and most of it is from what I got from Eric Hoffer's book "the true believer" published in the 1950s. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:46pm On Aug 02, 2021*. Modified: 2:21pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Reigning Women's football team USA went woke. Knocked out by Canada. Political pundits say the team needs more diversity. A transgender or two would help them win forever Will they burn the flag if they get the bronze? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:55pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:Well said, elegantly thought People who see their actions in your write-up will blast your piece without debunking anything. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 2:01pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
"But what do I know? Umudikean like me." LOL. The woke brigade have it coming and it would boomerang. Including Nigerians who champion wokeness. Chimamanda was the poster child of African wokeness and extreme feminism for years. She was at the forefront of canceling any man she felt was threat to her and destroying them. She doxxed and set her attack dogs on El Nathan John, a Nigerian writer who questioned her, and almost destroyed his career beginning in 2015. She quietly got married, toned down on her feminism which she benefitted from and rode to fame. She's been cautioning and calling out her disciples as "rude, bitter women" in recent months. She's ditching wokeness slowly. Recently, she's been canceled for saying trans rights shouldn't be lumped with women's right and for not supporting transgenderism at all. She's also been canceled from speaking at many events, and some institutions threatening to rescind some honours bestowed on her. I have had leads refuse to continue with a gig because they stumbled on a social media post of me saying there are only two genders: male and female. I do not care and nothing in the world would make me state otherwise. I knew what I signed up for. The biggest losers would be the wokeness eating at and swallowing the very woke campaigners themselves - cancel culture. Chrissy Teigen is its most recent victim. Philosophical autophagy at its finest and most hilarious. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:34pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:This sort of generalised statement is enough for my interest to wane in reading what you wrote since it wrongly assumes all black people think the same, despite the fact that if we check on here we'd find you arguing there are blacks on the right too. Below is two pieces of good news. First is transgendered Hubbard failed to beat women, the second is how confused the IOC is. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58054891 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/30/ioc-admits-guidelines-for-transgender-athletes-are-not-fit-for-purpose We are individuals, Ben, as you'd find a few pages back when the left turned on the left.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 2:47pm On Aug 02, 2021*. Modified: 3:12pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Last night I had one of the most interesting debates which I stumbled upon on ClubHouse since I joined about a week ago. I turned out to be a heated one and I refused to back down. Apparently, I was accused by some woke Nigerian-Mexican-American (I don't know how that works) female for 'whitification' because I made a comment about Carribeans (especially the ones resident in the region) being more closed about they way they speak and refusing to adapt even when communicating with others and juxtapositing how this affects chances at speaking gigs. It began with me observing there's no such thing as a "Nigerian accent" as what is termed the Nigerian accent is the accent prevalent in Lagos which is the headquarters of Nigeria's second biggest export - entertainment (music and movies), and the Port Harcourt resident would also count his accent as a Nigerian accent or the Fulani man in Kano. Just as there's no such thing as "British accent" - Cockney or what is generally spoken in London is way different from what's spoken in Liverpool or Scotland. A Scottish person has the right to feel offended in that case for pushing the way Adele speaks as the archetypal British accent. But there are generally acceptable ways of speaking to be understood. She accused me of trying to "whitify" other minority cultures for stating being more articulate and learning to pronounce or accentuate in particular ways would make you a better communicator. This is widely accepted as regards communication. According to her, people should speak how they want and should never make any effort to change it even if others barely understand them. The irony is, the lady accusing me is half-white. Long argument but she had to agree with me in the end but not without giving excuses like slavery and white man domination and the likes, and she being a sensitive person. She was very close to using that white enabler tag on me until I went in hard on her. Imagine if I were white or couldn't defend the points articulately, the recordings would have been all over in the morning and I would have been "canceled". Imagine if I were a Black American or white celebrity. That's what cancel culture is doing to us. Victimhood. We seek out victimhood. Oddly, the girl in question's mother is white. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:52pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
budaatum:Just a proof that you didn't read it or you didn't understand or you don't get the people I am talking about. Reading one paragraph of a book does not mean you read the book. The people who I was talking about is well known. Also, don't get carried away for the failure, some times people may purposely fail to get what they want. Next time they will say trans women don't have any advantage over biological women and they will use this as a reference. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:06pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:"My interest waned in reading" means I did not bother to read it, Ben. Personally, I can't wait for trans women to start winning all women's sports, then the absurdity of allowing those who changed gender to compete as women would become obvious. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:10pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
budaatum:Then what will become of women sports or are they trying to cancel females in Sports too? Did you see the 4x400 mixed race where the Nigerian team used a man for the 3rd leg vs women and he gapped them, by the time he handed over to a woman in the last leg, all the gap evaporated and she ended last |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:12pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
budaatum:contradiction then. that's not what waned means. even if generalization is what makes you not to continue reading, it only shows weakness on your side. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Enugurangers: 3:15pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Hi Benalvino. According to Hoffer, there needs to be a leader for any movement. Who is the leader for this Anti white movement you talk about in your write up? "Hoffer identifies three main personality types as the leaders of mass movements, "men of words", "fanatics", and "practical men of action". No person falls exclusively into one category, and their predominant quality may shift over time" "Mass movements begin with "men of words" or "fault-finding intellectuals" such as clergy, journalists, academics, and students who condemn the established social order." Does "Draining of the Swamp" ring a bell? Hoffer mentioned men like Saul (that became Paul), Hitler, Ghandi, Trotsky, Mohammed, Lenin e.t.c Have you thought that this theory could be applied to the MAGA movement led by the supreme leader, Donald Trump? Therefore, the MAGA crowd might be the true believers in this case. Did you read the book with an unbiased mind? i.e. to detach your leaning from the book so as to digest the content with an unbiased view. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:18pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:Waned means reduced, which is what happened to my interest. And your opinion of me does not concern me one tiny bit. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Enugurangers: 3:21pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
People have often written about the True believers and the MAGA crowd. The article below does not belong to me. In my last post, I discussed Eric Hoffer‘s 1951 classic: The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements. Naturally, the question arises as to the similarities between Trump supporters in the USA and Hoffer’s true believers.https://reasonandmeaning.com/2017/09/08/eric-hoffers-the-true-believer-and-trump/ |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:30pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
raumdeuter:No I did not see it. And I don't see how Nigeria can officially use a man in place of a woman in an internationally recognised competition and not be disqualified. Post reference for this please. I saw the mixed swimming relay where the men swam faster than women as is expected, however. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBQVPWJJs4I |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:31pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Enugurangers:Anti white narrative or movement is something many fringe group pushes. BLM pushes anti white narrative, they have a leader, the media cnn pushes antiwhite narrative, they also have a leader. All you said are irrelevant to my post. This is not whatabotism. Feel free to use Eric Hoffer's literature to explain the happenings of the MAGA movement but I don't see how saying all this neutralized what I have said. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:33pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
budaatum:I know what it means which is why I said reading one paragraph does not mean you have read the writeup else you could have seen the context of that generalization and understand the group I am talking about. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:34pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Enugurangers:That would require objectivity, which was lacking and is why my interest waned in reading further. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:38pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:I guess that's why a BLM leader would not buy a multi million dollar house in a predominantly white suburb right? But I kind of have a feeling you'd post that she did, which ought to show your "anti white" narrative is false, though you'd likely come up with a different interpretation of the evidence you would likely provide. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:42pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
benalvino3:Ben, I specifically said I did not read the writeup! I stopped reading as soon as I got to the generalised statement,"The black community doesn't really think", as it showed a lack of thought! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:44pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
budaatum:This is the youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Q4n2UQD9k&t=19s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYE8NP75wcA If you are not able to view it, search for this in youtube "U.S. DQ'd from 4x400m mixed relay - or were they? | Tokyo Olympics | NBC Sports" |
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who does that? See how many people that have died and they are still claiming to be having complications here and there.