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Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 9:24am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
Lewandowski hit 41 league goals guy... u messi fans think football starts and ends with messi...u dont even check other players statistics...minions
Don't quote me if you don't understand the discussion pls..........we talking about 2021 not the entire season
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 9:30am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
Messi dint deserve the last he won if u say lewa don't deserve this... the same thing messi won is the same lewa won...league titles and European golden boot with both loosing their national intercontinental titles
December no far. Journalist, coaches & club captains will decide who deserves it.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Kingcalls: 9:40am On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
You see how much sense you dont have right?? 24 goals against the last 7 teams was a blatant lie and what i stated there is fact. don't just believe any crap you see because your hate Messi........do you findings

Keep wailing......e go clear for your eyes soon!

Before i forget, Ronaldo robbed Ribery & Neuer just like Messi robbed VVD, Iniesta & Sneijder.
When did Ronaldo rob neuer?? Fake people like u.... ribery was an effect of the robbery on Ronaldo a yr earlier
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 9:45am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
When did Ronaldo rob neuer?? Fake people like u.... ribery was an effect of the robbery on Ronaldo a yr earlier
2014 he won the world cup, won the league & DFB Pokal.....he came third and you talking about Sneijder that didn't make the top 3.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Kingcalls: 9:50am On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
2014 he won the world cup, won the league & DFB Pokal.....he came third and you talking about Sneijder that didn't make the top 3.
But he wasn't robbed with the golden ball going to Messi shey?? Mumu fans
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 10:00am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
But he wasn't robbed with the golden ball going to Messi shey?? Mumu fans
You no get sense otherwise you go know say na your mumu logic i dey use for you.

When Messi wins FIFA award, you blame Blatter. when he wins Balon dor, Platini should be blame. he won Copa America, you still have the nerves to say a whole continent organized one tournament to please one player.

Don't you how much ridicule you have brought on yourself because of HATRED
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Kingcalls: 10:10am On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
You no get sense otherwise you go know say na your mumu logic i dey use for you.

When Messi wins FIFA award, you blame Blatter. when he wins Balon dor, Platini should be blame. he won Copa America, you still have the nerves to say a whole continent organized one tournament to please one player.

Don't you how much ridicule you have brought on yourself because of HATRED
Answer the question i asked u and stop jumping
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 10:23am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
Answer the question i asked u and stop jumping
was he in contention for the golden ball? No!
was he in contention for Balon dor? Yes.........stop asking stupid question
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Kingcalls: 10:29am On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
was he in contention for the golden ball? No!
was he in contention for Balon dor? Yes.........stop asking stupid question
U see y they say u are a hypocrite...so because messi won golden ball, neuer was not in contention despite winning the world cup and defeating messi...but Ronaldo that defeated neuer in the semi final of that seasons CL with 2 goals by him and winning the CL should hv lost to neuer .... leave hypocrisy , it will harm u
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 10:34am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
U see y they say u are a hypocrite...so because messi won golden ball, neuer was not in contention despite winning the world cup and defeating messi...but Ronaldo that defeated neuer in the semi final of that seasons CL with 2 goals by him and winning the CL should hv lost to neuer .... leave hypocrisy , it will harm u
Ronaldo and hypocritical fans sef...........by your logic, it was a world cup year. balon dor should be given to a player from the winning team. isn't that the reason you hypocrites have been talking about 2010?

if Ronaldo deserves 2014, dont you hypocrite ever talk about 2010 ever again................ewu
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Kingcalls: 10:38am On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
Ronaldo and hypocritical fans sef...........by your logic, it was a world cup year. balon dor should be given to a player from the winning team. isn't that reason you hypocrites have been talking about 2010?

if Ronaldo deserves 2014, dont you hypocrite ever talk about 2010 ever again................ewu
Again he won the CL at least ...set a new CL record with 17 goals... what did messi win that season ?
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 10:48am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
Again he won the CL at least ...set a new CL record with 17 goals... what did messi win that season ?
UCL top scorer, European Golden boot winner. Winning la liga and copa del rey by scoring 60goals was not enough to get him the award but a trophyless Ronaldo deserved 2013 right??

use your head man
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Kingcalls: 11:14am On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
UCL top scorer, European Golden boot winner. Winning la liga and copa del rey by scoring 60goals was not enough to get him the award but a trophyless Ronaldo deserved 2013 right??

use your head man
If Messi deserved it by scoring only goals...then Ronaldo also deserved it in 2013 by scoring goals as well ...what did messi win in 2012... Ronaldo won the league in 2012 and took Portugal to the semis of the euros...
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by espn(op): 11:25am On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
Don't quote me if you don't understand the discussion pls..........we talking about 2021 not the entire season
Why would you use just 2021...
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 11:50am On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
If Messi deserved it by scoring only goals...then Ronaldo also deserved it in 2013 by scoring goals as well ...what did messi win in 2012... Ronaldo won the league in 2012 and took Portugal to the semis of the euros...
You are still contradicting yourself. You were the one who said Messi robbed Sneijder, Iniesta & VVD before i brought up Ribery & Neuer to counter you by using same logic you applied in Messi's case.

Based on individual performance, will you compare Messi & Ronaldo's individual performance in 2012? 2012 was not a good season for Barcelona but on a personal level, Messi's achievement cannot go unnoticed. Inside the 91 goals numerous records were broken. He was UCL top scorer, won copa del rey, UCL semis with outstanding performances.

YOU SEEM TO BE THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING ABOUT 2012 THAT SHOWS YOUR HATRED IS DEEP ROOTED

See records below..........................................................................
3 Only player to win the Ballon d'Or three years in a row. He is favourite to be named the winner again next month

4 Only player to be European Cup top scorer four years in a row

4 Most goals scored by a player in the Fifa Club World Cup, jointly held with Denilson

5 Only player to score five goals in a Champions League match, against Bayer Leverkusen


7 Number of minutes in which Messi has not scored in 2012 – the 1st, 2nd, 10th, 14th, 15th, 46th and 69th minutes

8 Most La Liga hat-tricks in one season by any player

10 Most consecutive La Liga matches scored in, record jointly held with (Brazilian) Ronaldo and Mariano Martín

10 Most goals scored by a player in the Spanish Super Cup

12 Most goals scored in a year by a player for Argentina, jointly held with Gabriel Batistuta

14 Most goals scored in a single European Cup season, shared with Jose Altafini of Milan in 1962-63

15 Most La Liga hat-tricks by a Barcelona player

15 Away league goals scored by Messi this season, more than every other La Liga club except Real Madrid

17 Most goals scored by a Barcelona player in El Clásico matches

17 Fastest hat-trick by a Barcelona player, 17 minutes against Mallorca

21 Most hat-tricks by a Barcelona player in all competitions

25 Most international goals (ie goals not scored in domestic club football) for club and country in a year, jointly held with Vivian Woodward

50 Most goals scored by a player in a La Liga season. Also won him the 2011-12 Golden Boot

56 League goals scored by Messi in 2012. Only five Premier League teams have scored more – Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Everton

56 Most goals scored in the Champions League by a Barcelona player

57 Most goals scored in European competition by a Barcelona player

63 Messi has scored one goal for every 63 minutes played in 2012 for club and country

72 Most club goals scored by a player in a single season, beating Archie Stark's previous best for Bethlehem Steel in the 1924-25 American Soccer League

74 Most club goals scored by a player in a calendar year

82 Most goals scored by a player in a single season for club and country

86 Most goals scored by a player in a calendar year for club and country, surpassing Gerd Müller for Bayern Munich and West Germany in 1972

91 Total goals scored by Messi in 2012, including five in friendlies for Barcelona

192 Most goals for a Barcelona player in La Liga, beating César Rodríguez Alvarez's 190

249 Wins by Messi out of 352 matches for Barcelona, 70.7% of his matches

283 Most goals by a Barcelona player in all competitions, beating César Rodríguez Alvarez's 232

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/dec/10/lionel-messi-record-year-numbers
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 11:59am On Aug 02, 2021
espn:
Why would you use just 2021...
It wasn't me who said January. The guy I quoted said Lewy scored 48 goals in 2021. Lewy's 48 goals was for the entire campaign not 2021.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by FahBuLous: 3:59pm On Aug 02, 2021
Kingcalls:
If he wins it...then its a confirmed fraud... lewa will not b robbed just like he robbed vvd , iniesta and Sneijder...criminals...them for give am sanchez in 2015 , afterall it was chile's first as well
Messi is the king of soccer, no one will strip him of the Balon D'or...
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by ojaysam25(m):
OJEEMAH:
Ronaldo and hypocritical fans sef...........by your logic, it was a world cup year. balon dor should be given to a player from the winning team. isn't that the reason you hypocrites have been talking about 2010?

if Ronaldo deserves 2014, dont you hypocrite ever talk about 2010 ever again................ewu
Bro, sneider won all trophy in club football even defeating barcelona in ucl and did well with his national team taking them to the final of the world cup....there is no arguing he deserve the award.... Ronaldo won the champions league in 2014....make a case for ribery the previous year not neur.
In my opinion i think ronaldo does not deserve the award in 2013(he paid for it in 2018)it should be ribery but the balor d hor had lost its credibility then, same with messi in 2010&2019 sneider and van dijk deserve it in those years.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 11:09pm On Aug 02, 2021
ojaysam25:
Bro, sneider won all trophy in club football even defeating barcelona in ucl and did well with his national team taking them to the final of the world cup....there is no arguing he deserve the award.... Ronaldo won the champions league in 2014....make a case for ribery the previous year not neur.
In my opinion i think ronaldo does not deserve the award in 2013(he paid for it in 2018)it should be ribery but the balor d hor had lost its credibility then, same with messi in 2010&2019 sneider and van dijk deserve it in those years.
In 2010 make a case for Iniesta not Sneijder. Sneijder never deserved balon dor. Iniesta was a better player in 2010 than Sneijder. He won the world cup, league & Copa Del Rey with outstanding performances. Sneijder wasn't even the best player in inter. If Sneijder was that influential, Milito wouldn't have beaten him to the UEFA Player of the Year Award....... I keep saying it that Balon dor is based on individual performance backed up by team's achievement. I brought Neuer up because of the rubbish that niqqa said. I disagree with you on 2019. Messi was European Golden Boot winner and was also top scorer in UCL.......so because he didn't win UCL, you think he doesn't deserve the award after scoring 53 goals?? Common man!
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by ojaysam25(m): 11:34pm On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
In 2010 make a case for Iniesta not Sneijder. Sneijder never deserved balon dor. Iniesta was a better player in 2010 than Sneijder. He won the world cup, league & Copa Del Rey with outstanding performances. Sneijder wasn't even the best player in inter. If Sneijder was that influential, Milito wouldn't have beaten him to the UEFA Player of the Year Award....... I keep saying it that Balon dor is based on individual performance backed up by team's achievement. I brought Neuer up because of the rubbish that niqqa said. I disagree with you on 2019. Messi was European Golden Boot winner and was also top scorer in UCL.......so because he didn't win UCL, you think he doesn't deserve the award after scoring 53 goals?? Common man!
Vvd won the epl best player and the ucl best player, he took netherland to the inagural nations league final which they lost to portugal....he had a tremedous season for both club and country....
As for sneider i think he deserve the awards over messi or iniesta, he was instrumental for the successes of his club and country....let say he won the world cup over iniesta spain....i still think they would have given messi the award over him because he does not had the popularity....a ronaldo under such circumstances would have won it.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 11:45pm On Aug 02, 2021
ojaysam25:
Vvd won the epl best player and the ucl best player, he took netherland to the inagural nations league final which they lost to portugal....he had a tremedous season for both club and country....
As for sneider i think he deserve the awards over messi or iniesta, he was instrumental for the successes of his club and country....let say he won the world cup over iniesta spain....i still think they would have given messi the award over him because he does not had the popularity....a ronaldo under such circumstances would have won it.
On personal performance, Sneijder was nowhere near Messi in 2010.....Messi was European Golden Boot winner, UCL top scorer, won la liga & Copa Del Rey. Unfortunately, Argentina didn't do well in the WC. On what basis do you think Sneijder should have won it? Iniesta had a better 2010 than Sneijder.....won the league, Copa Del Rey & the WC and he was highly influential. Sneijder was no where near the top 3 probably he would have been considered if they had won the WC. Do you think Ronaldo would have won Balon in 2014 if Argentina had won the WC?

VVD can't defeat Messi based on personal performance but dont forget winning the UCL is not the only factor to consider just like in 2010 & 2013 though it increases ones chances but like I always say, personal performance first before teams achievements and that's why Messi defeated him despite losing UCL semis to Liverpool.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by ojaysam25(m): 11:59pm On Aug 02, 2021
OJEEMAH:
On personal performance, Sneijder was nowhere near Messi in 2010.....Messi was European Golden Boot winner, UCL top scorer, won la liga & Copa Del Rey. Unfortunately, Argentina didn't do well in the WC. On what basis do you think Sneijder should have won it? Iniesta had a better 2010 than Sneijder.....won the league, Copa Del Rey & the WC and he was highly influential. Sneijder was no where near the top 3 probably he would have been considered if they had won the WC. Do you think Ronaldo would have won Balon in 2014 if Argentina had won the WC?

VVD can't defeat Messi based on performance but on teams achievements but like I always say, personal performance first before teams achievements and that's why Messi defeated him despite losing UCL semis to Liverpool.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by ojaysam25(m):
OJEEMAH:
On personal performance, Sneijder was nowhere near Messi in 2010.....Messi was European Golden Boot winner, UCL top scorer, won la liga & Copa Del Rey. Unfortunately, Argentina didn't do well in the WC. On what basis do you think Sneijder should have won it? Iniesta had a better 2010 than Sneijder.....won the league, Copa Del Rey & the WC and he was highly influential. Sneijder was no where near the top 3 probably he would have been considered if they had won the WC. Do you think Ronaldo would have won Balon in 2014 if Argentina had won the WC?

VVD can't defeat Messi based on performance but on teams achievements but like I always say, personal performance first before teams achievements and that's why Messi defeated him despite losing UCL semis to Liverpool.
Dont compare a defender with a striker in terms of goals....he won the epl and ucl best player, two tournament that is a factor when decideing the balor d hor....which mean on a personal level he is better than messi in ucl by virtue of winning the ucl best player. He also took his national team to the final of a major tournament.
Again that was his first season thats why...a more popular defender would have won the award....i think a major factor before winning balor d hor is popularity which is not suppose to be so.
Ronaldo would not have won it had he not won the ucl with so much record broken even if argentina didnt win the world cup
As for sneider it would had made more sense had iniesta won the award maybe due him winning the world cup...but sneider not even making the top3 is absurd.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m):
ojaysam25:
Dont compare a defender with a striker in terms of goals....he won the epl and ucl best player, two tournament that is a factor when decideing the balor d hor....which mean on a personal level he is better than messi in ucl by virtue of winning the ucl best player. He also took his national team to the final of a major tournament.
Again that was his first season thats why...a more popular defender would have won the award....i think a major factor before winning balor d hor is popularity which is not suppose to be so.
Ronaldo would not have won it had he not won the ucl with so much record broken even if argentina didnt win the world cup
As for sneider it would had made more sense had iniesta won the award maybe due him winning the world cup...but sneider not even making the top3 is absurd.
Not comparing a defender and a striker but lets do it this way. On a personal level VVD did very well but Messi was better. As a defender, was his Liverpool the team with the best defence in Europe that year? No but Messi was the best forward in Europe that same year.

Do you realize Milito was UCL & Seria A best player in 2010? He was very instrumental to Inter's UCL & Seria A victory but wasn't even nominated.

To be very sincere with you, if Argentina had won 2014 WC, nothing would have stopped Messi from winning that award. Ronaldo won because he achieved more with his team but on a personal level they were on par.

Sneijder case was a complex one. The three candidates were too strong to defeat.....if you look at the top 3 Iniesta, Xavi & Messi, who should they have dropped for him. To me, Sneijder didnt do enough break into the top 3.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by espn(op): 5:09am On Aug 03, 2021
OJEEMAH:
It wasn't me who said January. The guy I quoted said Lewy scored 48 goals in 2021. Lewy's 48 goals was for the entire campaign not 2021.
I get bro..thnks
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by espn(op): 5:10am On Aug 03, 2021
ojaysam25:
Bro, sneider won all trophy in club football even defeating barcelona in ucl and did well with his national team taking them to the final of the world cup....there is no arguing he deserve the award.... Ronaldo won the champions league in 2014....make a case for ribery the previous year not neur.
In my opinion i think ronaldo does not deserve the award in 2013(he paid for it in 2018)it should be ribery but the balor d hor had lost its credibility then, same with messi in 2010&2019 sneider and van dijk deserve it in those years.
hmmmmmmm
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 7:10am On Aug 03, 2021
espn:
I get bro..thnks
welcome bro.......Good morning
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by ojaysam25(m): 7:29am On Aug 03, 2021
OJEEMAH:
Not comparing a defender and a striker but lets do it this way. On a personal level VVD did very well but Messi was better. As a defender, was his Liverpool the team with the best defence in Europe that year? No but Messi was the best forward in Europe that same year.

Do you realize Milito was UCL & Seria A best player in 2010? He was very instrumental to Inter's UCL & Seria A victory but wasn't even nominated.

To be very sincere with you, if Argentina had won 2014 WC, nothing would have stopped Messi from winning that award. Ronaldo won because he achieved more with his team but on a personal level they were on par.

Sneijder case was a complex one. The three candidates were too strong to defeat.....if you look at the top 3 Iniesta, Xavi & Messi, who should they have dropped for him. To me, Sneijder didnt do enough break into the top 3.
Was barcelona the best attaccking team that year? If there was an award for a defender, who do you think would have won the best defender that year?
Had messi won a trophy with his club he would not need to win the world cup to win the balor d hor reaching the final of the world cup would have been enough but him and barca underperformed that year and end up trophiless.
In contrast sneider excelled for club reaching the final of the world cup should have cemented his place same with d milito had he backed up his excellent display for club for his country. But nor of them would still have won it had they won the worlld cup because they are not as popular as the players that beat them to the podium.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Nobody: 10:08am On Aug 03, 2021
The guy should cry some more. He has people that will partner him in crying in this sub. In fact, their crying started after Argentina won the Copa, and it will continue for some time.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by Nobody: 10:09am On Aug 03, 2021
Can't remember this logic of "3rd in La Liga" when CRY7 won in 2013 WITHOUT WINNING A SINGLE TROPHY.
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m):
ojaysam25:
Was barcelona the best attacking team that year? If there was an award for a defender, who do you think would have won the best defender that year?
Had messi won a trophy with his club he would not need to win the world cup to win the balor d hor reaching the final of the world cup would have been enough but him and barca underperformed that year and end up trophiless.
In contrast sneider excelled for club reaching the final of the world cup should have cemented his place same with d milito had he backed up his excellent display for club for his country. But nor of them would still have won it had they won the worlld cup because they are not as popular as the players that beat them to the podium.
Don't get me wrong. I never said VVD wasn't the best defender in Europe that year but it didn't stop Liverpool from conceding many goals meanwhile as a forward, Messi scored more goals than every player in his position...........Judging by their respective positions.

Messi & Barcelona underperformed? No, Messi didn't underperform but Barcelona did cos they achieved nothing but see his stats below:
Messi.......58 goals
Ronaldo......61 goals

This shows that on a personal level, he wasn't far behind but Ronaldo backed his with club achievements. Winning the WC would have changed everything cos he lacked bragging right with his club that year.

Like i said earlier, Sneijder didn't do badly but it wasn't enough for balon dor.......If Milito had gotten to the WC finals, he would have had a chance cos of his outstanding performances in UCL & Seria A.

Every one keep talking about Sneijder because of the treble inter won. In the UCL, he scored about 3 goals. In the league he didn't have up to 10goals. He performed better in the WC but unfortunately they lost the final. He didnt even win best player in any of the competitions he played. I ask again, on what basis should Sneijder have won balon dor??
Re: 'if Messi Wins, It'll Be The Most Busted Ballon D'or In History. by OJEEMAH(m): 10:35am On Aug 03, 2021
ojaysam25:
Was barcelona the best attacking team that year? If there was an award for a defender, who do you think would have won the best defender that year?
Had messi won a trophy with his club he would not need to win the world cup to win the balor d hor reaching the final of the world cup would have been enough but him and barca underperformed that year and end up trophiless.
In contrast sneider excelled for club reaching the final of the world cup should have cemented his place same with d milito had he backed up his excellent display for club for his country. But nor of them would still have won it had they won the worlld cup because they are not as popular as the players that beat them to the podium.
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