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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:52am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
This handout statement is not targeted at any color. Romney famously said 47% of the population want handouts and trust me blacks are not 47% on the population

And it's not just black who are on welfare. Republicans call everyone who advocates for others sponsoring their life a welfarist not just blacks.
The leader of the socialist movement in America today is Bernie Sanders, AOC and Elizabeth Warren. None of these are blacks..
Just like this week I have heard a lot of people complaining about extending moratorium on eviction when landlords still have to pay mortgage

How do you describe when you as a landlord have to pay mortgage and tenants do not have to pay rents?

Read on this thread every example you have listed and compare it to the word coon. How many times each has been used

There are many on the left here on this thread who take shots at poor southern whites, poor Appalachian whites.

Poverty is not a characteristic of Democrat or Republican. Putting the responsibility for getting out of it is where they differ. Democrats believe govt and Billionaires should be responsible for it. Republicans don't believe that. They generally think you should be responsible for your own getting out of poverty
He does not understand sadly. 2022 or 2024 you will start hearing promises mainly directed at blacks, they will be told how the government has not down anything for them and promises. Reparation will echo all for their votes.

Till today Biden has not held meaning meeting with black leaders. When trump did they attacked the black leaders and pastors as Coons etc. Those meetings lead to prison reform and other funding that helped the black community infrastructure wise.

Anytime I said racism cannot keep a black man down in the US they call me stupid and also gaslight me saying I mean there is no racism in the US. The same people will brag on how rich they are and how they have been working for big companies for decades proving what I am saying whether they are lying or not.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 4:23am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
This handout statement is not targeted at any color. Romney famously said 47% of the population want handouts and trust me blacks are not 47% on the population

And it's not just black who are on welfare. Republicans call everyone who advocates for others sponsoring their life a welfarist not just blacks.
The leader of the welfarism- socialist movement in America today is Bernie Sanders, AOC and Elizabeth Warren. None of these are blacks..

A black female is seen as one of the strongest people because you are very unlikely to see a black woman without a job while you see almost double white women choosing to be stay at home moms.

How many black women have time to be soccer moms when they are working their asses off? I don't know the stats but I am sure black women per capita rank very high in hardworking metrics. probably Hispanic men.


Regarding welfarism and handouts
Just like this week I have heard a lot of people complaining about extending moratorium on eviction when landlords still have to pay mortgage

How do you describe when you as a landlord have to pay mortgage and tenants do not have to pay rents?

Regarding tags
Read on this thread every example you have listed including welfarist, handout seeker etc and compare it to the word coon. How many times each has been used

There are many on the left here on this thread who take shots at poor southern whites, poor Appalachian whites.

Poverty is not a characteristic of Democrat or Republican. Putting the responsibility for getting out of it is where they differ. Democrats believe govt and Billionaires should be responsible for it. Republicans don't believe that. They generally think you should be responsible for your own getting out of poverty
I don't know about Romney(who I like by the way) but most Republicans when it comes to black voters always spout the same talking point.
Any little complaints about racism must be met with "victimhood mentality" talk.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 4:41am On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
He does not understand sadly. 2022 or 2024 you will start hearing promises mainly directed at blacks, they will be told how the government has not down anything for them and promises. Reparation will echo all for their votes.

Till today Biden has not held meaning meeting with black leaders. When trump did they attacked the black leaders and pastors as Coons etc. Those meetings lead to prison reform and other funding that helped the black community infrastructure wise.

Anytime I said racism cannot keep a black man down in the US they call me stupid and also gaslight me saying I mean there is no racism in the US. The same people will brag on how rich they are and how they have been working for big companies for decades proving what I am saying whether they are lying or not.
When Democrats included a grant for Black farmers who had been discriminated on in the past, who complained about it? Biden also increased funding for
HBCUs.
Why are you lying about Biden not meeting black leaders? He met with civil rights leaders on the 8th of last month.

You talk about racism not being a barrier to success but yet think it's a crime to talk about the racism some experience on their way to success?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:47am On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
He does not understand sadly. 2022 or 2024 you will start hearing promises mainly directed at blacks, they will be told how the government has not down anything for them and promises. Reparation will echo all for their votes.

Till today Biden has not held meaning meeting with black leaders. When trump did they attacked the black leaders and pastors as Coons etc. Those meetings lead to prison reform and other funding that helped the black community infrastructure wise.

Anytime I said racism cannot keep a black man down in the US they call me stupid and also gaslight me saying I mean there is no racism in the US. The same people will brag on how rich they are and how they have been working for big companies for decades proving what I am saying whether they are lying or not.
They are racists because I cant visit their hood withoit getting bashed up
They are racist because they support Trump who said mean things in his tweets.
They are racist because they don't love me.
That Kaepernick was raised by a white family Not that he should keep quiet. Maybe he should tell people who raised him.
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:08am On Aug 07, 2021
edi287:
I don't know about Romney(who I like by the way) but most Republicans when it comes to black voters always spout the same talking point.
Any little complaints about racism must be met with "victimhood mentality" talk.
Republican talking points to black is that years of voting Democrats have not really worked for you. You can take your destiny into your own hands.

Democrats talking points to blacks is that those guys are racists, dont vote for them. you are not black enough even if you consider them. The system is rigged against you

Tim Scott a black Republican gave a state of union response first thing you hear is that he is a sellout, Uncle Tim

Google any black Republican and type the word "coon" uncle Tom or sellout beside their name and see what you find.
From Tim Scott, Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain, Collin Powell, Condoleezza Rice

All these are people who grew up in the midst of poverty and became very successful among the highest in the country in their field because they took their destinies in their hand
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:14am On Aug 07, 2021
While browsing this section, I see another thread on Hezbollah firing rockets at Israel

https://www.nairaland.com/6689056/hezbollah-fires-rockets-into-israel

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/rocket-sirens-sound-northern-israel-golan-heights-israeli-miltary-says-2021-08-06/

Very soon the left will say Israel is wrong to strike on Hezbollah
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:25am On Aug 07, 2021
Gold for Team USA basketball
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:26am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
While browsing this section, I see another thread on Hezbollah firing rockets at Israel

https://www.nairaland.com/6689056/hezbollah-fires-rockets-into-israel

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/rocket-sirens-sound-northern-israel-golan-heights-israeli-miltary-says-2021-08-06/

Very soon the left will say Israel is wrong to strike on Hezbollah
But Israel has iron dome and a strong army. It's using a sledge hammer to swat flies.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:29am On Aug 07, 2021
basilico:
But Israel has iron dome and a strong army. It's using a sledge hammer to swat flies.
I know your comment was tongue in cheek though but that is what the media will spin it as.

Since Israel has the dome, it shouldn't worry about those missiles
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:00am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
I know your comment was tongue in cheek though but that is what the media will spin it as.

Since Israel has the dome, it shouldn't worry about those missiles
Israel had 17 resolutions passed against it by the UN in 2020. The rest of the world had 6.
There is no way I support Palestinians who endanger public lives because the UN and media will cover for them

Why does the UN hold such bias?is it the OPEC members with their ability to jack oil prices up on the fly?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:05am On Aug 07, 2021
basilico:
Israel had 17 resolutions passed against it by the UN in 2020. The rest of the world had 6.
There is no way I support Palestinians who endanger public lives because the UN and media will cover for them

Why does the UN hold such bias?is it the OPEC members with their ability to jack oil prices up on the fly?
We will start hearing how Israel should go and make peace with Hezbollah a terror organization who just doing the bidding of Iran

We will start seeing people excusing a terror organization and condemning a recognized democractic nation
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:11am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
We will start hearing how Israel should go and make peace with Hezbollah a terror organization who just doing the bidding of Iran

We will start seeing people excusing a terror organization and condemning a recognized democractic nation
The leader of Hezbollah ( means Party of God),Nassralah lives in a bunker, he rarely ventures out because the Israelis will take a shot at him. It's a wretched life to live.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Prideoflincoln . That Obama will hold a bash on Saturday will follow CDC guidelines.
Who brainwashes you people.
Some notables been spotted John Legend and his wife ( she deleted her twitter account) , Oprah, George Clooney, Prideoflincoln,Salford and Ibime.

Just to add, global warming is causing sea levels to rise, this beachfront might be underwater by 2030 .Its only 30 acres and worth 12m ,the value will keep going down because global warming.

And as for the bash , a lot of private jets expected, their emissions will create a carbon footprint that will sink Martha's vineyard by 2030.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9869959/John-Legend-Chrissy-Teigen-Dwyane-Wade-arrive-Marthas-Vineyard-Obamas-birthday-bash.html

Huge tent for the superspreader

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:21am On Aug 07, 2021
edi287:
When Democrats included a grant for Black farmers who had been discriminated on in the past, who complained about it? Biden also increased funding for
HBCUs.
Why are you lying about Biden not meeting black leaders? He met with civil rights leaders on the 8th of last month.

You talk about racism not being a barrier to success but yet think it's a crime to talk about the racism some experience on their way to success?
First of all, racism exist but it will not stop you from achieving. You also make my point for me. You said "they experience on their way to success" also I don't think it's a crime to talk about racism I don't know where you get that from.

Some of you see yourself as victims and it happens here in Nigeria. My company had to bring in some 2.4kva generators, plastic chairs, school desk to share to the communities. When the trailer got into the premise our company is, I and the contractor was supposed to direct them in and guess what happened, the community boys came in to our company and said those trailers are not allowed in unless they got paid. We have to give them 150k because we don't want trouble. We have security men fully armed but when they start kidnapping, those security men cannot do anything.

There are cases you Want to do their roads or connect turbine powered electricity for them, you will have to pay them to do if for them. They think it's their right for the government to just be there and paying them because the government operate in their land.

I don't lie for no reason edi. Maybe I didn't know of the meeting that does not mean I am lying. Calm down.

About the farmers, you can help and improve black lives without using discrimination.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 7:44am On Aug 07, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Like i said, Nairaland is the only thing you and i have in common and that's temporal. By the way, i stii have my job and i haven't been indicted for felony by Cook County State's Attorney. Waiting for that indictment from you and your American lawyers that are certified to practice in the State of Illinois. Lol
We have a quick way to remedy that and that argument brought about the excommunication of Budaatum last Saturday.

It's simple: Like I have stated and dared you in the past, I dare you to doxx anyone on this thread or be involved in their doxxing. Those are the conditions I have given you since I stated I'd make you get in trouble with the law about a month ago.

It's simple: Prove I can't do anything or shame me as a chest beater by doxxing anyone on this thread.

My antecedence on Nairaland easily proves (and this can be testified to by hundreds of Nairalanders), if I won't do it or don't know I can or don't have evidence for it, I won't dare you with it, bring it to your notice or even state it at all.

You know what to do. Do it and let's see what happens within 7 -10 days of filing and following up on the notice.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:45am On Aug 07, 2021
Raumdeuter you watch Bill maher smiley the debate on CRT was good.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 7:49am On Aug 07, 2021
budaatum:
You'd soon be stating how the person you accuse me of being like is attacking me, but all you're doing really is disregard the facts and the need for honesty, to bait by making things up as you go along.
PrideofLincoln might attack you or insult you or you are now at opposite sides but, like him, you muddy the waters during a debate by shifting goalposts and trying to insert words the other person never did or stated.

A person's perspective doesn't make them immune to hypocrisy or brazen-faced lying. You both no longer agree with each other but you are Siamese twins joined at the hips and shoulders by hypocrisy and lies.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:01am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
Fair enough but I think you are buying in too much of what the American left media like CNN are pushing

I go out everyday and I meet Real life Americans everyday. I dont feel unsafe or feel anyone is after me because of the color of my skin

Are there racists who dont like me because of my color Hell Yeah just like in every country even within whites they dont like some type of white same with within blacks even Nigeria

Kamala even said it America is not a racist country like some on the left are trying to push. Racism is the card the Democrats want to use to win elections and they keep pushing it
LMAO,Racism and all forms of discrimination is everywhere even in football because one party chooses to address it doesn't mean it is a talking point they use to win elections because you have not experienced it doesn't mean you can speak for others since CNN is the only media organisation reporting on it and they must be focusing on fabricated stories I guess undecided

Let's say it is a talking point I am sure you will agree that the anti-immigration,hate/fear mongering, abortion and covid are republiQan talking points aimed at winning elections too. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:03am On Aug 07, 2021
Meghan Mccain exited ABC's the view yesterday.

Good riddance it is one thing to be a conservative then also be a MAGAt defending nonsense.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:09am On Aug 07, 2021
AmazonTopaz:
Meghan Mccain exited ABC's the view yesterday.

Good riddance it is one thing to be a conservative then also be a MAGAt defending nonsense.
Megan McCain does not support trump. Gaslight.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:16am On Aug 07, 2021
So the Biden administration added more jobs in a single month than agent orange the so called "job's president" and "stock markets" president ever did in his entire presidency.

Agent orange said Biden would crash the stock market but the stock market gained when he was announced president elect the stock market also had one of it's under Biden's presidency not agent orange.He used it to campaign against Biden,that man is always wrong in everything grin

Now Biden has trounced him again in the Jon's market the Biden plan is obviously working if not for covid it will be much higher don't listen to any clown who tells you that trickle down economy works and democrats cannot do anything to help the economy. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:19am On Aug 07, 2021
Germany and Italy are planning to make life hard for the unvaccinated.Very good things must return back to normal while the propagandists keep spreading their propaganda about Bill Gates and the new world order cool
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:43am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
Gold for Team USA basketball
So the woke kneeling team collected gold?

Did the infantile Trump send out a press release blaming kneeling for the fact they won, just like he did when the women football team lost? I mean, this is the level of infantility and puerility that appeals to grown men as standards of political discourse for their leaders.

Zendi why didn't you update us on this result?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:48am On Aug 07, 2021
Ibime:
So the woke kneeling team collected gold?

Did the infantile Trump send out a press release blaming kneeling for the fact they won, just like he did when the women football team lost? I mean, this is the level of infantility and puerility that appeals to grown men as standards of political discourse for their leaders.

Zendi why didn't you update us on this result?
On paper they were the best team, but basketball has a lot of teamwork , with an exceptional individual they can win any match.
Congrats to them,
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 9:13am On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
First of all, racism exist but it will not stop you from achieving. You also make my point for me. You said "they experience on their way to success" also I don't think it's a crime to talk about racism I don't know where you get that from.

Some of you see yourself as victims and it happens here in Nigeria. My company had to bring in some 2.4kva generators, plastic chairs, school desk to share to the communities. When the trailer got into the premise our company is, I and the contractor was supposed to direct them in and guess what happened, the community boys came in to our company and said those trailers are not allowed in unless they got paid. We have to give them 150k because we don't want trouble. We have security men fully armed but when they start kidnapping, those security men cannot do anything.

There are cases you Want to do their roads or connect turbine powered electricity for them, you will have to pay them to do if for them. They think it's their right for the government to just be there and paying them because the government operate in their land.

I don't lie for no reason edi. Maybe I didn't know of the meeting that does not mean I am lying. Calm down.

About the farmers, you can help and improve black lives without using discrimination.
Do people on the right think Black Liberals wake up in the morning and tell their kids not to aim for success, commit crime, not work hard and just blame the white man for everything??
You are right that racism will never be permanently eradicated but does that mean we should not try?

This victimhood mentality shit the right talks about pisses me off to my damn bones! LeBron's house got graffiti with racial slurs and when he spoke up racism that he suffers as a black man - certain folks on the right told him to shut up and be grateful he's in America. Why should any reasonable black man accept that stupid talk like that?

Everyone has different experiences but when you want to write off one person's experiences as having a victimhood mentality - that is a big issue. I shouldn't have to be racially profiled while a white dude who dresses the same way as I do goes about without hassles. Black folks have a right to complain about things like that.

Black farmers have been discriminated against for a long time and even won a settlement which many are yet to receive. Biden and Democrats tried to rectified and they get sued. How does that make sense?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by edi287: 9:28am On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
Republican talking points to black is that years of voting Democrats have not really worked for you. You can take your destiny into your own hands.

Democrats talking points to blacks is that those guys are racists, dont vote for them. you are not black enough even if you consider them. The system is rigged against you

Tim Scott a black Republican gave a state of union response first thing you hear is that he is a sellout, Uncle Tim

Google any black Republican and type the word "coon" uncle Tom or sellout beside their name and see what you find.
From Tim Scott, Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain, Collin Powell, Condoleezza Rice

All these are people who grew up in the midst of poverty and became very successful among the highest in the country in their field because they took their destinies in their hand
Tim Scott has complained about being racially profiled. I think some people were upset with him saying America wasn't a racist country while having talked about being racially profiled numerous times in the past. I have no issues with Tim Scott.
As for the others, Google their names with "plantation"(you could put Democrats and Slaves in front of it) and see them doing the same thing they accuse Democrats/Liberals of.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:43am On Aug 07, 2021
edi287:
Do people on the right think Black Liberals wake up in the morning and tell their kids not to aim for success, commit crime, not work hard and just blame the white man for everything??
You are right that racism will never be permanently eradicated but does that mean we should not try?

This victimhood mentality shit the right talks about pisses me off to my damn bones! LeBron's house got graffiti with racial slurs and when he spoke up racism that he suffers as a black man - certain folks on the right told him to shut up and be grateful he's in America. Why should any reasonable black man accept that stupid talk like that?

Everyone has different experiences but when you want to write off one person's experiences as having a victimhood mentality - that is a big issue. I shouldn't have to be racially profiled while a white dude who dresses the same way as I do goes about without hassles. Black folks have a right to complain about things like that.

Black farmers have been discriminated against for a long time and even won a settlement which many are yet to receive. Biden and Democrats tried to rectified and they get sued. How does that make sense?
Edi, that's the story being told and it is demoralizing. Politicians and people on this forum make insinuations that black people are being held back, there is Institutional racism keeping blacks down etc. I and DissTroy have pointed out how critical race theory makes this case and tries to give handouts in everything instead of merits.

Read this https://www.nairaland.com/6681067/unifying-power-hate-george-floyd
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 10:41am On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
First of all, racism exist but it will not stop you from achieving.
Says who? Could you share evidence of this sweeping statement?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:43am On Aug 07, 2021
Konkoja:
Says who? Could you share evidence of this sweeping statement?
That's the evidence. You cannot discriminate on anyone with impunity. Like I told budaatum the other day, if you employer is rude or racist to you, it's a fast way to make money. There are laws against it and if you are good at what you do you will always find someone willing to give you a deal.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/479724-a-black-man-was-trying-to-cash-checks-from-a
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Manshot1: 12:00pm On Aug 07, 2021
tongue

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 1:15pm On Aug 07, 2021
Manshot1:
tongue
That will fits well with the Nazi and Proud Boys loving crew here. I heard Trump's selling his Nazi identity card for $40. I hope the Nazi loving crew can get their little Naira converted to $$$ to buy their White identity cards
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 1:22pm On Aug 07, 2021
The Nazi loving crews here always put up their lies about Blacks complaining that racism is holding African Americans down. Foolish arguments from people who knows nothing about America but just want to argue for arguments sake. We have in America now 3 to 5 African Americans that are Billionaires in $$$ and at least 4 to 5 Athletes that can say the same. So many African Americans CEO of Blue Chips Companies and so many Billionaires and Multimillionaires of African descent. I repeat, the most successful Black groups in the world are African Americans. We fight discrimination not because it pulls us down but because it's the right thing to do. Fulani domination of Nigeria under buhari doesn't stop other tribes from excelling but that doesn't make tribalism acceptable in Nigeria. Like i said numerous times before, the people that knows the least yell the most.
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