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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:45pm On Aug 07, 2021
Ibime:
You can't be good at Maths. What is the total sample size that the 100 are drawn from?

Assume 1,000 people is the total population sample. 900 are vaccinated, 100 are unvaccinated.

100 went to Hospital, 40% of whom are vaccinated, 60% of whom are unvaccinated .

Now repeat what I said and wrap your head around it.

900 vaccinated people therefore contributed 40 hospitalisations, while 100 unvaccinated people contributed 60 hospitalisations.
The 100 is the sample size smart-ass.
Your formula or what you are saying is rubbish.

Out of 100 people that was admitted to the hospital, 40% was vaccinated the remaining 60% not vaccinated. You dey do I too know you never understand the question.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 3:46pm On Aug 07, 2021
One of the reason why I feel sympathetic to those who regret their actions. We learn from our mistakes. In exams, once you realise your mistake after leaving the exam hall, the right solution sticks to your mind for a long time even though you can't right the wrong.

This guy is doing is best to get people vaccinated. He is a good man, and I hope he pulls through so that he can return home to his wife Kellie and his kids.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 3:46pm On Aug 07, 2021

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:47pm On Aug 07, 2021
budaatum:
What is sad is you not knowing how to "voice out"! Did you "voice out" at the last US elections by marching off to Congress?

Americans did not "voice out" by marching to congress, and in fact, those who ignorantly voiced out by going to congress are being jailed as they rightly ought to be. Americans including yourself, rightly voiced out on polling day by voting for whom they wanted, and we can all see the effect of their voicing just by checking to see who now occupies the White House!
You only dance to your own tunes. We do not thump print in America.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:49pm On Aug 07, 2021
kayusely70:
That's just the main reason people are afraid to venture out. They won't even get to the place before they're brutalised by security agents.
Tell that to Budhaa. Why would someone risk being whacked in the head because he wants to vote for people that are not going there to help but steal the country into bankruptcy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:51pm On Aug 07, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
You can mobilize all you want and that will be negated by people that will carry the ballots into their bedrooms and votes as many times as they want by thump printing. What part of that is hard for you to comprehend.
The part that makes me understand you are talking crap!

If "carry the ballots into their bedrooms and votes as many times as they want by thump printing" is what wins elections, then you too go and "carry the ballots into your bedrooms and votes as many times as you want by thump printing". Except that this is a blatant lie you tell to convince yourselve your vote does not count so that you wouldn't bother to vote so the despotic leaders win! It's a trick that's been used from time immemorial and I'm amused you still fall for it. Are you not aware of incumbents losing elections in Nigeria?

PrideofLincoln1:
Why is it hard for Nigeria to use electrinuc voting backed up by paper ballots like they do in the West in case of disputes. You keep on yapping about mobilization when the mobilization will be gutted by massive rigging.
Is it not the mobilization of the people that will introduce electronic voting in Nigeria, or do you expect the despots whom you claim "carry the ballots into their bedrooms and votes as many times as they want by thump printing" that will introduce electronic voting?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:52pm On Aug 07, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
You only dance to your own tunes. We do not thump print in America.
You don't thumb print in America because you mobilised not to thumb print in America! When we mobilise in Nigeria we too would stop thumb printing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 3:52pm On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
The 100 is the sample size smart-ass.
Your formula or what you are saying is rubbish.

Out of 100 people that was admitted to the hospital, 40% was vaccinated the remaining 60% not vaccinated. You dey do I too know you never understand the question.
Isn't this rubbish? So the 100 people are not drawn from the total population?

OK, if 99.99% of people in the country are vaccinated, and 100 people turn up to the Hospital, will you say it's 40-60 chance of getting hospitalised for an average citizen in the population?

You need to go back to your New General Mathematics textbooks.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:53pm On Aug 07, 2021
kayusely70:
That's just the main reason people are afraid to venture out. They won't even get to the place before they're brutalised by security agents.
Budaatum needs to take examples from north korea, Syria and China. The people who control the weapons are being paid very well and they are willing to slaughter their people to protect politicians. See even the police wey no they see food eat how them they kill people for politicians.

The US and UK army will not attack its people but you cannot say the same about Nigeria.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:56pm On Aug 07, 2021
Ibime:
Isn't this rubbish? So the 100 people are not drawn from the total population?

OK, if 99.99% of people in the country are vaccinated, and 100 people turn up to the Hospital, will you say it's 40-60 chance of getting hospitalised for an average citizen in the population?

You need to go back to your New General Mathematics textbooks.
We are not talking about the population Ibime. We are talking about the people who are in the hospital. I said out of 100. I don't know where you are getting other figures from. Na so you dey do maths grin

There is a constraint in my statement. 100 admitted in the hospital. Out of the 100 40% vac 60% unvac. That's all.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:59pm On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
Budaatum needs to take examples from north korea, Syria and China. The people who control the weapons are being paid very well and they are willing to slaughter their people to protect politicians. See even the police wey no they see food eat how them they kill people for politicians.

The US and UK army will not attack its people but you cannot say the same about Nigeria.
The pity is you think the army in US and UK just stopped killing its people, and so fail to see how the people themselves fought for the right not to be killed by their army.

The army in US and UK will not attack its people because its people have dictated to its police and army that that is unacceptable. And when we Nigerians show our army that killing us is unacceptable, our army too will stop killing us.

You got to fight for your rights instead of thinking your rights would be given to you without a fight.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:04pm On Aug 07, 2021
budaatum:
The pity is you think the army in US and UK just stopped killing its people, and so fail to see how the people themselves fought for the right not to be killed by their army.

The army in US and UK will not attack its people because its people have dictated to its police and army that that is unacceptable. And when we Nigerians show our army that killing us is unacceptable, our army too will stop killing us.

You got to fight for your rights instead of thinking your rights would be given to you without a fight.
Go fight na. We go watch to see how things will happen.

The people cannot win against the army in the UK because they have no weapons. So you saying they fought no make sense. As it stands, it is resistance for corruption and greed and also value of human life and appetite for doing the right thing that will make them not kill their citizens not because of the right of the citizens. It's one the to have rights its another thing for others to respect your right.

In the US at least they gave their citizens means to fight back.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:05pm On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
We are not talking about the population Ibime. We are talking about the people who are in the hospital. I said out of 100. I don't know where you are getting other figures from. Na so you dey do maths grin

There is a constraint in my statement. 100 admitted in the hospital. Out of the 100 40% vac 60% unvac. That's all.
My friend, take this Mathematics back to Nembe Waterside. You know you wrong nigga grin

The debate is on the benefits on vaccination, therefore the Maths is on the probability of getting hospitalised. What you have calculated is not the probability of getting hospitalised, but the probability that someone already in Hospital is vaccinated.

The prevalence of vaccinated people in THE HOSPITAL is 40%. The prevalence of vaccinated hospitalised people in the population is 14 times lower than for the unvaccinated.

Wetin consign us with the prevalence in the Hospital. Are we in the Hospital? What concerns us is cutting our risk of going to Hospital which we can do by a factor of 14 if we take the vaccine.

One day we will get to 100% of people in Hospital being vaccinated when 100% of the population is vaccinated. So does your Maths make sense to you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:12pm On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
Go fight na. We go watch to see how things will happen.

In the US at least they gave their citizens means to fight back.
Democracy is the means we are given to fight! We fight at the polling booth by electing the leaders who would give us what we want, in this case, the right not to be killed by the army.

It is what we ought to be learning here, how Americans fight to be ruled by leaders who would rule them as they want. Instead, my people are stuck here yelling "left, right, coon, umudike" at each other!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:14pm On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
The people cannot win against the army in the UK because they have no weapons.

In the US at least they gave their citizens means to fight back.
I guess you fail to understand that BLM and defund the police is fight against being killed by police and army, a right not given but continously fought for.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:15pm On Aug 07, 2021
Ibime:
My friend, take this Mathematics back to Nembe Waterside. You know you wrong nigga grin

The debate is on the benefits on vaccination, therefore the Maths is on the probability of getting hospitalised for an average citizen.

The prevalence of vaccinated people in THE HOSPITAL is 40%. The prevalence of vaccinated hospitalised people in the population is 14 times lower than for the unvaccinated.

Wetin consign us with the prevalence in the Hospital. Are we in the Hospital? What concerns us is cutting our risk of getting hospitalised by the factor of 14.
Which probably, that's not obviously the debate. I made a statement about hospitalization. I said out of 100 people wey them admit 60% UN vacc

That's the point, that's all. 100 people in the hospital 60% unvaccinated and 40% vaccinated. I know you are trying to point to me about the rate per capita but this is not when you should do that.

That's why I said understand the question before you solve the maths.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:19pm On Aug 07, 2021
budaatum:
I guess you fail to understand that BLM and defund the police is fight against being killed by police and army, a right not given but continously fought for.
And you failed to get my point. Your BLM excuse does not make sense too. Incidents is not the same as police killing black people. Racist cop kill a black person is not the same as police killing black people.

Remember when you said you won't read my post because I generalise. But you do it just now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 4:20pm On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
Which probably, that's not obviously the debate. I made a statement about hospitalization. I said out of 100 people wey them admit 60% UN vacc

That's the point, that's all. 100 people in the hospital 60% unvaccinated and 40% vaccinated. I know you are trying to point to me about the rate per capita but this is not when you should do that.

That's why I said understand the question before you solve the maths.
Rubbish. Below is you framing it in the context of vaccines not working. You even said hospitalisations are at an equal rate. Rate refers to per capita if you don't know.

That was the debate, and now when your Maths is called into question, you start saying that's not the debate.

What debate are you having then? Who asked you for the prevalence rate in the Hospital? Are we the Hospital clerk?

Stick to your original debate that vaccines don't work, and bring out the Maths to prove it, which you can't do without sampling from the total population. Nobody sent you to do Hospital clerk work.

Like I said, one day ~100% of people in Hospital will be vaccinated because ~100% of the population will be vaccinated, but the proof that vaccines work will be that total admissions will be much lower compared to when we were all unvaccinated.



benalvino3:
It does not take half a brain cell to know that the vaccines don't work. Fauci was asked if you are vaccinated and you are immune, why are you still wearing mask in fact doubling it. They were hesitant to even let the vaccinated go back to regular life.
benalvino3:
But in the UK the vaccinated are being hospitalized at almost an equal rate than the unvaccinated.

You don't get it. They said vaccinated people should still wear mask amongst themselves and they were hesitant to go back to normal. Fauci started putting on two mask after he got vaccinated.

Again, the numbers in the UK is worrisome
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:26pm On Aug 07, 2021
benalvino3:
And you failed to get my point. Your BLM excuse does not make sense too. Incidents is not the same as police killing black people. Racist cop kill a black person is not the same as police killing black people.

Remember when you said you won't read my post because I generalise. But you do it just now.
The reason police kills is irrelevant, dead is dead, and police anywhere should not be killing people, and they will only stop killing people when the people stand up and say enough is enough like BLM is doing!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:30pm On Aug 07, 2021
raumdeuter:
When did Meghan McCain become a MAGA defender? These are the type of falsehood that democrats peddle everytime despite most people knowing her to be very anti Trump
Oh please,I watch the show very well and she is always rambling about how the MAGAts are a part of the party that should not be sidelined and that they should be taken seriously and their grievances addressed.She said she agreed with Mccarthy that the GQP is a big tent for everyone.Her husband at the federalist plays to their drums as well.She spills their talking points on the show that is why she trends sometimes and gets into disagreements with her co-host.Ana Navarro is a moderate republiQan and conservative even though I don't always agree with her she doesn't bring in MAGA talking points to the show but is even mature with her disagreements with other co-host. Same cannot be said of Meghan Mccain a fellow conservative.

She would have even voted trump(that is if she didn't) if not because he always attacked her father.She is not anti-trump she makes excuses for him too and goes about with her whataboutism.It is not falsehoods watch the show before blabbing about democrats wetin concern democrats and Meghan Mccain undecided
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:35pm On Aug 07, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
One of the reason why I feel sympathetic to those who regret their actions. We learn from our mistakes. In exams, once you realise your mistake after leaving the exam hall, the right solution sticks to your mind for a long time even though you can't right the wrong.

This guy is doing is best to get people vaccinated. He is a good man, and I hope he pulls through so that he can return home to his wife Kellie and his kids.
New York post even carried it. Interesting cool
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 4:38pm On Aug 07, 2021
budaatum:
You don't thumb print in America because you mobilised not to thumb print in America! When we mobilise in Nigeria we too would stop thumb printing.
Wrong again. It's not by mobilization that we do not thump print in America. It's called technology. Get your facts right. Stop arguing for the sake of arguments.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 4:39pm On Aug 07, 2021
budaatum:
The part that makes me understand you are talking crap!

If "carry the ballots into their bedrooms and votes as many times as they want by thump printing" is what wins elections, then you too go and "carry the ballots into your bedrooms and votes as many times as you want by thump printing". Except that this is a blatant lie you tell to convince yourselve your vote does not count so that you wouldn't bother to vote so the despotic leaders win! It's a trick that's been used from time immemorial and I'm amused you still fall for it. Are you not aware of incumbents losing elections in Nigeria?


Is it not the mobilization of the people that will introduce electronic voting in Nigeria, or do you expect the despots whom you claim "carry the ballots into their bedrooms and votes as many times as they want by thump printing" that will introduce electronic voting?
You only hear your own sounds and that's good for you. Bye.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:39pm On Aug 07, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
What's going on in Florida, Arkansas, Louisiana and many Republican States now are frankly genocide against the people. I think this vaccines controversy will not bode well for Republicans in 2022 knowing that Americans do not forget. If vaccines are so bad and not working, how come the Republicon elites and politicians are taking the shots. That's what happens to cultists because they refuses to use their brains just like Branch Davidians and Jim Jones cultists refuses to use their brains and we know what happened to them all.
Well Death Santis is doing a good job and he is going to defeat Kamala Harris in 2024 according to Meghan Mccain and other republiQans/MAGAts. huh
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:40pm On Aug 07, 2021
The Director of the CDC made an important admission during an interview today on CNN. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated the vaccine does not prevent COVID-19 infection, nor does it stop the vaccinated person from transmitting the infection or the delta variant. According to Director Walensky, the only benefit from the vaccine now is presumably that it reduces the severity of symptoms.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixMp09p_Vn0
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:40pm On Aug 07, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Rep Majorie Taylor Greene the loco is now calling for the South to arm themselves against people that are advocating the vaccines. Where do these idiots get their supporters from.
America sad
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:42pm On Aug 07, 2021
budaatum:
The reason police kills is irrelevant, dead is dead, and police anywhere should not be killing people, and they will only stop killing people when the people stand up and say enough is enough like BLM is doing!
Yeah, if police want to kill people the protest for them to stop killing people will have police kill a lot of people till someone outside intervene or the people over power the police and defeat them. You dey talk rubbish
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:42pm On Aug 07, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Wrong again. It's not by mobilization that we do not thump print in America. It's called technology. Get your facts right. Stop arguing for the sake of arguments.
Thumb print or technology, is not the point here! Technology is after all being claimed to have been used to rig in Arizona, and Atiku claimed technology was used against him too!

The point is, Americans, including yourself, mobilised for hours outside a polling booth in order to vote to get rid of drumpft, instead of cowering in fear at home claiming drumptf would rig the election and win!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:44pm On Aug 07, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
That's one of the Qanons and far right winger the former guy helped elect into Congress. She is a big stain.

The Magats and Qanons can start by shooting off the heads of their governors and other GOP party leaders that advocates for vaccines in their states.
Since I have been talking about Meghan Mccain the "princess of Arizona" I will deviate a little so as to let those know that she defends Marjorie Taylor Greene and compares her to AOC on the view.She said everyone wants to paint MTG bad but what about AOC and the squad.Imagine comparing AOC to Marjorie Taylor Greene if that isn't MAGA talking point I don't know what is.Whataboutis is MAGA personified.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 4:45pm On Aug 07, 2021
AmazonTopaz:
America sad
That's our faction of AmeriKKKa. How come all these fascists and racists find a comfortable home in the RepubliKKKan Party ?. Someone answer that for me. If Hitler was alive, he would be a card carrying member of the RepubliKKKan Party.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:45pm On Aug 07, 2021
Maybe if some idiots had taken the vaccine earlier the virus won't be mutuating to render the vaccine ineffective.

Get vaccinated. angry
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:45pm On Aug 07, 2021

MCALLEN, Texas — The busiest spot of
the southern border for illegal crossings is
struggling with an all-time high of
migrants and a spike in COVID-19 cases.
Last week, 7,000 migrants were released
in downtown McAllen, Texas. More than
1,500 tested positive for COVID-19 over
the past seven days, according to a city
document issued Wednesday.



https://news.yahoo.com/texas-border-town-struggles-under-101200363.html

Are the positive cases being made worse by immigrants whom Biden admin is not testing .

It does open a situation where the AG could open a RICO charge on those responsible for dumping COVID-19 positive immigrants to local community. Very interesting scenario.
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