abbey621:

How? You might feel hurt by it or offended but its nothing but facts when we research historical references.

Feel hurt in what way?

Focus, will you! The man is here in 2021, comparing the acts of a terrorist organization to to atrocities committed over 200 years ago, mostly in foreign lands by a religious group. What is the sense in that?

What exactly is the point of such a comparison? Is it to justify the acts of the terrorist group or what?

FYI Christianity isn't the only religion with a shameful past.

complexBoss12:
Who ever knows this niggar should advice him to stay away from his phone for awhile. he started off churning out facts when needed and everyone loved it, but one thing human beings constantly abuse is limit.

I am not saying he is lying, but he is recently beginning to rub his supposed knowledge and exposure on our faces, like he is showing off, and people don't like that.

Typical African; they always analyze with emotions. Oga counter the message with facts and leave the messenger.

after4:
This guy is a mad man. If you ask him to provide a proof now, he can't
Nah so hem talk sey itshekiri took Igbos as slave but could not prove it

What he said is truth. Read your Old Testament and you will see such commandments and killings but thank God for Jesus Christ.

complexBoss12:
Who ever knows this niggar should advice him to stay away from his phone for awhile. he started off churning out facts when needed and everyone loved it, but one thing human beings constantly abuse is limit.

I am not saying he is lying, but he is recently beginning to rub his supposed knowledge and exposure on our faces, like he is showing off, and people don't like that.

Typical African; they always analyze with emotions. Oga counter the message with facts and leave the messenger.

Let's be specific here... The evil was done by the Roman Catholic . They didn't do it for Christianity but for the Roman empire

Starcrest1:
Reno is foolish for that comparison. So because oyibo used church for bad agenda, we Africans should suffer for it.

Even Islam did worse than the crusaders in the olden days but the difference is that christianity dropped all those things and came out reformed while Islam is still wallowing in violence up till today.

And Reno is here capping trash.

Unfortunately the major sponsors of jihadists today is America,Israel,Britain,Saudi Arabia and The EU.

Sunkyapogee:

What he said is truth. Read your Old Testament and you will see such commandments and killings but thank God for Jesus Christ.

Truth of what?

What has the past of Christianity or any other religion for that matter, to do with the terror that Boko garam inflicts on the lives of people's in the year 2021?

freshalien:
The Church’s history is riddled with all sorts of atrocities and barbaric crimes. From forced conversion, to invasion of indigenous people’s lands in the name of their god, to burning people at the stake for heresy, to support for the enslavement of Africans shipped to Brazil to work in the plantations, to covering up crimes of sexual molestation by its priests and bishops and so on. They are too numerous to list here. But the same people would tell you that hell is waiting for you if you do not eat and drink the blood of their christ. Christianity is a scam!

Whatever the church did should have no effect on the belief and commitment of any true believer in Christ. There are Christians, and there are those who claim to be who are actually not Christians.

The real question is, what does the Bible say? Where was it recorded in the new testament that the church forced people to accept Christ and God sanctioned it?

We follow the example of Christ and the Church recorded in scripture. That's why it's important for believers to weigh up every act of acclaimed believers against scripture.

So it doesn't matter if the church in the past tortured and physically forced people to accept Christ. Since it doesn't have no bearing in new testament scripture, it doesn't make Christianity a bad religion.

Kobojunkie:
Feel hurt in what way?

Focus, will you! The man is here in 2021, comparing the acts of a terrorist organization to to atrocities committed over 200 years ago, mostly in foreign lands by a religious group. What is the sense in that?

What exactly is the point of such a comparison? Is it to justify the acts of the terrorist group or what?

Again don't attack the messenger but the message. If nimwits are going to attack a religion like Islam and claim it is responsible for Boko Haram and other jihadists shouldn't the record be set straight that no religion is void of violence be it present or the past?

Forget about foreign lands or 200 years ago, it does not change the principal message. Religious fanatics would have people believing one religion is a saint while the other is of the devil but facts are facts, one is not better than the other. Yes Reno was insensitive with his approach but if we removed sentiments, we can't call what he said false.

Reno is very correct. But this kind of statement rekindle the evil people of this generation to do more. I don't expect this from him as one of the buhari's major critics.

kb83:
Comparing The Church and this current terrorist Boko Ha ram is Unfair, At least the Church gave you a chance to accept or be killed, however Boko Ha ram bombs people en mass with no chance to say yes or no to their religion.

Are you justifying the killings? You asked me to join something and I refused because I don't want to... So, why should I be killed? Perhaps you should read more about the killings of the church. This is only the tip of the iceberg

LordVoldermort:
Is the topic related to Daddy Freeze debate I haven't yet watched the video
Besides when will Daddy Freeze be indicted?

"Omokuri" is a confused bastard. Did he not know this happened hundreds of years ago when civilisation hadn't set in? Is he now encouraging bokoharam to do more or what?

Reno what's your point...this is not good, not at this point...we are in civilized times, those were barbaric times... should we continue in barbarism?

JEWELofHELL:
Previous thread
https://www.nairaland.com/6691128/unbiblical-pray-jesus-reno-omokri
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Source:

Start from 37:58


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QURC7y6Tcw

If this article was written by Reno then something is definitely wrong. He lacks wisdom, discretion and direction because I don't understand the purpose of this useless and unrelated article that he has written.

First, with development, civilisation and enlightenment people's thinking has changed. So, for him to talk like this shows he didn't use the sense that is supposed to be common.

Secondly, you don't live in the North so don't talk about what you don't know. From your place of safety, you are vomiting rubbish and insensitive comments. Please grab sense, you don't need to buy it just use it

Utterly rubbish. Dumbass Reno

I wished strongly that my ex gf is on nairaland to read this Reno Omokri's epistle. She'd have exonerated my perceived nihilism.

Islam learnt everything terrorism from Biblical Children. And it's a fact. I don't want to go far.

cocolacec:

Unfortunately the major sponsors of jihadists today is America,Israel,Britain,Saudi Arabia and The EU.

You are not sure about that. Why would US kill Osama and Israel be fighting different terrorist groups from time immemorial if they are their sponsors?

abbey621:

Again don't attack the messenger but the message. If nimwits are going to attack a religion like Islam and claim it is responsible for Boko Haram and other jihadists shouldn't the record be set straight that no religion is void of violence be it present or the past?

Forget about foreign lands or 200 years ago, it does not change the principal message. Religious fanatics would have people believing one religion is a saint while the other is of the devil but facts are facts, one is not better than the other. Yes Reno was insensitive with his approach but if we removed sentiments, we can't call what he said false.

I am sorry, what?

Did you not yourself point out earlier that Boko Haram is in fact an Islamic terrorist group? Is it not enabled by the fact that Islamic rule is practiced in the Northern part of Nigeria?

No religion is devoid of a violent past is no reason why the violent atrocities committed in present day by a religious terrorist group should not be tackled head on for what it is.

Religious fanatics will have one believing what now?
Let's pretend the religious fanatics don't even exist in this. You and I are well aware of the violent history of at least Christianity and Islam in this. Tell me, does this knowing somehow change the facts of the reality that is the Islamic terrorist group in Nigeria today?

Does this knowing we have of the past of these major religions, remove in anyway from what is happening even as we speak in parts of the North, all because of the activities of Boko Haram?

Congrats, Pastor Reno O'monkey!



Boko Haram has now been formally endorsed by no other than a supposed "MOG"!



Let the killings continue!

Beancounter94:
Let the religion fight begin

Of course, in defence of Christianity, we left most of that violent thing ages ago, in part because of something called the reformation...which led over time to changes in strategy...from 'killing people who don't believe' to 'persuading them'.

After all, by the time Christianity came to my village, missionaries did not come with guns to force people to convert. People converted willingly.

The question is, the Islamic religion too should undergo some changes. Yes, many people have become Muslims peacefully....but the violence is still there . Harsh, but true.

You made a valid point.
What Islam needs is a sort of Reformation.

abbey621:


Again don't attack the messenger but the message. If nimwits are going to attack a religion like Islam and claim it is responsible for Boko Haram and other jihadists shouldn't the record be set straight that no religion is void of violence be it present or the past?

Forget about foreign lands or 200 years ago, it does not change the principal message. Religious fanatics would have people believing one religion is a saint while the other is of the devil but facts are facts, one is not better than the other. Yes Reno was insensitive with his approach but if we removed sentiments, we can't call what he said false.

Just because you did something in the past and later turned completely from it doesn't mean you shouldn't condemn it when you see it later on. It's quite different from condemning something that you are actually practising at the same time, that's top-notch hypocrisy.

Moreover, those acclaimed Christians who held such practice are not the standard of Christianity. If the new testament Bible doesn't tell of Christians doing such, then why should the acts of those in this subject matter be a basis to judge the faith.

What they did is against what the bible teaches, I'm sure there were also Christians then who condemned such practice. If I was in existence then, I would have firmly condemned it because I know the new testament Bible doesn't teach that.

As expected, many people locked away their brain from thinking and rushed to type from the dogma they have been fed with by their church leaders.

Reno is absolutely correct, but it's a fact the Christians would never even want to think off.

Both religions are violent. One was quick to realise violence would not work in the new world, while the other is still being primitive.

JEWELofHELL:
Previous thread
https://www.nairaland.com/6691128/unbiblical-pray-jesus-reno-omokri



Source:

Start from 37:58


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QURC7y6Tcw

The comparison is an unfair balance, you are comparing mid civilization characterised by land grabbing to Morden civilization characterised by technology and innovation. This is an uneven balance, what was regarded as wealth in mid civilization was land, the more land you control the more powerful one was perceived, it wasn't only the church that grabbed land everyone did, religion was only a tool, a means to an end. There were not really trying to propagate religion, they were after land, religion was a justification for the evil they propagated.
In the Morden era Land is bought or at best fought openly for, wealth and power is enshrined in technology and innovation. It is regarded as abnormal to kill people in their sleep to take over their land, it is abnormal to destroy people's crops when they are not in their farms. Different generations are characterized by both good and bad traits, correlating traits across generations can lead to very confusing results as a result of rate of change experienced across generation.

Teacher1776:

You made a valid point.
What Islam needs is a sort of Reformation.

Does every religion need a reformation?

Hallelujah! The truth shall set you free.
Everything in this religion hinges on blood, blood and blood. Imagine, a father saying his son must be brutally killed- what a father!

after4:
This guy is a mad man. If you ask him to provide a proof now, he can't
Nah so hem talk sey itshekiri took Igbos as slave but could not prove it

it is the truth,I have read a book on terrible catholic popes who were tyrants in the past,they were so corrupt to the extent they became more powerful than the kings.

They were killing Jews and many of the killings were isolated. From the 10th century to the 18th century,there were false teachings by some wolves in sheep clothing.

It is good that Christianity has evolved into something that is good for humanity,the terrible ideology then wasn't passed down to generations.

kb83:
Comparing The Church and this current terrorist Boko Ha ram is Unfair, At least the Church gave you a chance to accept or be killed, however Boko Ha ram bombs people en mass with no chance to say yes or no to their religion.

Lol. See justification! I thought Boko Haram too gave Liah Saribu a chance? Don't justify evil

1 Timothy 6:3-6 “If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”

LordVoldermort:
Is the topic related to Daddy Freeze debate I haven't yet watched the video
Besides when will Daddy Freeze be indicted?

Don't digress;
Catholics were killers for trinity more than Boko Haram is killing

This is the sickest statement that ever came from Reno. He is talking about primitive times where men are still battling for knowledge and law. More so, the church was the government and wrote a law for the nation. Offenders are tried before justice is served.

Book haram are no government and have no law know to the public. They provoke terrors. Kill without trials and wreck and maim the innocence and destroy the nation’s economic. I never called anyone a fool but Reno Omokri is my first fool. Shame on him.

UK needs to strip him of his citizenship! I am going to write the petition

They'll not believe you because true is bitter

Is this man well