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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:46pm On Aug 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
The irony is that most people are fleeing the angelic Democratic states to the hateful Republican states including minorities which is why the blue states are losing congressional seats
People go where it's cheaper to live
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 7:48pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
This is simple nah. You can do better than this.

Jesus' parable of the lost sheep.

Remember I posted earlier about not condemning those that regrets the vaccine and tried to right their wrongs from their sick bed.

Read the below screenshot carefully.
I understand. Maybe he's converted or not.

The point is, when Bryd was still an active KKK member, Hillary was friends with and met other members too.

That you are a repented armed robber is one thing. That I knew you when you were an armed robber and frolicked with you nonetheless makes me guilty by association, and an accomplice and enabler of crime in a way.

Hillary had been friends with Bryd for decades. That's the story here. All the time she parroted "Civil rights and equal rights and fairness", she was being hypocritical and actually working with supremacists. Maybe even received donations from them too.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:48pm On Aug 08, 2021
benalvino3:
Don't wonder. He was inciting hate on that protest and he was not arrested that is the point. I did no see you going their to confront him or antifa. All of you were silent about it.
Welcome to UK, ben. The country where we are civilised.

We did not have to confront him on the street nor did he have to be arrested on the street where his defenders would start fighting to defend him and you would then get to call us antifa for opposing him. We are intelligent enough to know that our police, whom we trust, are monitoring the situation, and will do what we pay them to do, which is, arrest him when it is safe to do so and charge him to court where the judge would throw his ass in jail for five years and six months as he rightly deserves.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:48pm On Aug 08, 2021
Ibime:
People go where it's cheaper to live
Why is it cheaper to live there? Is it because of the insane taxes they put on people living there? It will be expensive to live when you have to pay a significant part of your income in taxes and fees
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:50pm On Aug 08, 2021
benalvino3:
When will you disagree with antifa? You are not making sense. You disagree with BLM but okay with antifa. grin
Antifa is not a hate group, and anywhere Antifa is fighting a hate group like your Proud Boys and KKKs, I know which side I'm on.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:51pm On Aug 08, 2021
budaatum:
Welcome to UK, ben. The country where we are civilised.

We did not have to confront him on the street nor did he have to be arrested on the street where his defenders would start fighting to defend him and you would then get to call us antifa for opposing him. We are intelligent enough to know that our police, whom we trust, are monitoring the situation, and will do what we pay them to do, which is, arrest him when it is safe to do so and charge him to court where the judge would throw his ass in jail for five years and six months as he rightly deserves.
Guys budaatum has dementia grin he has been saying they should attack anyone who spread hate throughout today. You are confused and funny. Laugh Wan kill me. Person wey they support antifa attacking people who gather to express themselves is saying this. Wow
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 7:55pm On Aug 08, 2021
DissTroy:
I understand. Maybe he's converted or not.

The point is, when Bryd was still an active KKK member, Hillary was friends with and met other members too.

That you are a repented armed robber is one thing. That I knew you when you were an armed robber and frolicked with you nonetheless makes me guilty by association, and an accomplice and enabler of crime in a way.

Hillary had been friends with Bryd for decades. That's the story here. All the time she parroted "Civil rights and equal rights and fairness", she was being hypocritical and actually working with supremacists. Maybe even received donations from them too.
Byrd took his political office position in the 1940s. 1947 or so to be precise. Hillary Clinton was probably in diapers then.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:55pm On Aug 08, 2021
Ibime:
Antifa is not a hate group, and anywhere Antifa is fighting a hate group like your Proud Boys and KKKs, I know which side I'm on.
They are angels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKnncu2RMpA

So much love in antifa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEOfIWi6_aI
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:56pm On Aug 08, 2021
Ibime:
Which media did you pick up these hate speeches in Britain. I have challenged you to post a video of a sitting British MP giving out hate speech. Like I said you can only Google and make an assumption.

America is the centre of the world. It is 100% more likely that I know what is going on there more than you know what is going on here.

We literally saw thousands of your compatriots commiting an insurrection on live TV, a sizeable population of yours believing the election is stolen, Proud Boys and Oathkeepers marching daily in your capital and taking pictures with politicians. 90% of your House of Reps voting against certification. Your major news cable channels putting out hateful rhetoric on a daily basis. Your President constantly putting out hate rhetoric. The major media channels is the view with which we check the Temperature of a country. I have been in lockdown here for a year. My view of Britain over the last year is from the major media channels, not because I dey ground. Tell me whether you get such view of Britain from BBC, ITV or any of our news channels like I just described for Yankee. Come off it man, una nyash is open to anybody in the world.
I dont follow UK politics or news

But a quick search on youtube and this is what I see from MPs pointing abut some racist remarks made by Boris the head of the British conservatives

The Head of British conservatives calling moslems women bankrobbers and letter boxes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxods38mAoQ

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:57pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Byrd joined took his politic office in the early 1940s. 1947 or so to be precise. Hillary Clinton was probably in diapers then.
Still does not matter, Kevin Hart was dragged for a statement he made decades ago on Twitter. We should keep it by the standards you guys set else it's hypocrisy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:58pm On Aug 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
Why is it cheaper to live there? Is it because of the insane taxes they put on people living there? It will be expensive to live when you have to pay a significant part of your income in taxes and fees
How many people live there and how many in Blue States? Where there are plenty people, things get expensive so you have osmosis the other way when it becomes unbearable. The reason there were that many people there in the first place is people felt comfortable to live there without facing prejudice and such. I'm sure you know about the great migration from the South. As Southern states began to become more metropolitan and inclusive, now you feel comfortable to go back there.

The only reason you feel comfortable in Yankee is because you live in metropolis or close to it where liberal pressure has made it comfortable for you to live. Go to a town in the middle of nowhere with 100% GQP flying confederate flag and tell me whether you feel comfortable there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:59pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Yes..The GQP needs lunatics like Marjorie and the other wild animals to help them parrot some of their rubbish agendas. Same way some right wingers here weaponized the cockroach and were even giving him likes to encourage his garbage posts.

They are what I call useful idiots grin
Lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:59pm On Aug 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
I dont follow UK politics or news

But a quick search on youtube and this is what I see from MPs pointing abut some racist remarks made by Boris the head of the British conservatives
Find out what the remarks where before talking. Much Ado about nothing. These are sensitive folk.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 8:00pm On Aug 08, 2021
benalvino3:
Still does not matter, Kevin Hart was dragged for a statement he made decades ago on Twitter. We should keep it by the standards you guys set else it's hypocrisy
That is politics for you. The same way they dragged Hillary was the same way Trudeau was dragged for wearing a black face grin

But the intelligent voters can often see through the charade and would vote their best candidate irrespective of the politics being played.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:00pm On Aug 08, 2021
So budaatum will excuse terrorist spreading hate but attack a bad guy exposing Muslim grooming gang or any right wing group gathering for hate speech while he allows Muslims to spread hate comfortably. That's why I said these people are confused
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:02pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Byrd took his political office position in the 1940s. 1947 or so to be precise. Hillary Clinton was probably in diapers then.
That's how someone here said George Soros sold his family to the Nazis when Soros moved to England at 17 grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:02pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
That is politics for you. The same way they dragged Hillary was the same way Trudeau was dragged for wearing a black face grin

But the intelligent voters can often see through the charade and would vote their best candidate irrespective of the politics being played.
So raumdeuter and DissTroy are making a good case here abi?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:02pm On Aug 08, 2021
benalvino3:
Guys budaatum has dementia grin he has been saying they should attack anyone who spread hate throughout today.
Why do you lie so much? Is it because you think everyone can so easily be brainwashed like you are, or is it just too difficult for you to separate UK where the law protects me against your hateful free speech, from America that protects your right to be hateful in your speech?

budaatum:
If a far right group congregates in UK they'll be arrested before I can assault them! Over here, the government is smart enough to ban fascist groups so any congregation by them is illegal since we know they disturb the peace.
budaatum:
You obviously lack understanding of what you talk about.

Over here in UK I am protected because you do not have the freedom of speech to be attacking me with racist slurs, and you can not congregate peacefully or any other way to do so without the law stopping you. That's why Tommy went to jail, and why it was the police against the people in the video you posted.

In America, however, they have freedom of speech to say whatever they want, which is why some would stand against them and they'll end up attacking each other since hateful words would lead to violence.

In UK we nip such nonsense it at the bud while in US in toxifies their politics.
budaatum:
That's where UK is not US! You do not have "free speech" to speak hatred against others!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 8:02pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Byrd took his political office position in the early 1940s. 1947 or so to be precise. Hillary Clinton was probably in diapers then.
That's the thing - "seemed to have ended". That was speculative reporting without being definitive to absolve Hillary of any blame for associating with him. We know how the MSM muddied the waters and twisted reality to favour Hillary.

There have been several reports since that Byrd still associated with the KKK even during office but he was low-key as many of its influential figures attended events with him and were seen in his company.

If they (MSM) did as much for Biden, I swear he would have been canonised since he doesn't have as much dirt on him personally (except the segregation vote) as Hillary does.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 8:03pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Yes..The GQP needs lunatics like Marjorie and the other wild animals to help them parrot some of their rubbish agendas. Same way some right wingers here weaponized the cockroach and were even giving him likes to encourage his garbage posts.

They are what I call useful idiots grin
The sad part is that a lot of these so called conservatives in America agrees with Majorie but they are not gutsy enough to come out. Remember Ex Congressman Steve King. What is it about conservatives that draws Nazis, Klans, Skinheads and other deplorables to their midst.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 8:03pm On Aug 08, 2021
Ibime:
That's how someone here said George Soros sold his family to the Nazis when Soros moved to England at 17 grin grin grin
grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:04pm On Aug 08, 2021
Ibime:
How many people live there and how many in Blue States? Where there are plenty people, things get expensive so you have osmosis the other way when it becomes unbearable. The reason there were that many people there in the first place is people felt comfortable to live there without facing prejudice and such. I'm sure you know about the great migration from the South. As Southern states began to become more metropolitan and inclusive, now you feel comfortable to go back there.

The only reason you feel comfortable in Yankee is because you live in metropolis or close to it where liberal pressure has made it comfortable for you to live. Go to a town in the middle of nowhere with 100% GQP flying confederate flag and tell me whether you feel comfortable there.
The reason people are migrating there is because of the favourable economic policies of the Republican states. Many companies are moving from blue states to Red states. When companies move, jobs follow. People follow the jobs. There are many African immigrants living in some blue states who have to struggle for jobs but they all moved to the South and found jobs easily. I know so many of them

And people move to where there are jobs, If only you know the number of Nigerians who migrated to Midland, Odessa axis in mainly rural Texas because of Oil field jobs
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 8:05pm On Aug 08, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
The sad part is that a lot of these so called conservatives in America agrees with Majorie but they are not gutsy enough to come out. Remember Ex Congressman Steve King. What is it about conservatives that draws Nazis, Klans, Skinheads and other deplorables to their midst.
Thats klans, nazi, skinheads and other deplorables can tell who is for them. Game recognize game. Trump for example mastered the art of dog whistle very well and used it alot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:07pm On Aug 08, 2021
Ibime:
Find out what the remarks where before talking. Much Ado about nothing. These are sensitive folk.
The remarks was calling Moslem women letterboxes and African men having watermelon smiles and picanninies

These are things you expect from Trump

You want us to jump on Trumps shithole comments, but Johnsons letterboxes are "Much ado about nothing"

Trumps comment is what many Africans call themselves, How many moslem women call themselves letterboxes or Africans call themselves picanninies

Like you Auntie Patience said Kontinuuu. Vice Principal, kontinuu grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 8:07pm On Aug 08, 2021
Ibime:
How many people live there and how many in Blue States? Where there are plenty people, things get expensive so you have osmosis the other way when it becomes unbearable. The reason there were that many people there in the first place is people felt comfortable to live there without facing prejudice and such. I'm sure you know about the great migration from the South. As Southern states began to become more metropolitan and inclusive, now you feel comfortable to go back there.

The only reason you feel comfortable in Yankee is because you live in metropolis or close to it where liberal pressure has made it comfortable for you to live. Go to a town in the middle of nowhere with 100% GQP flying confederate flag and tell me whether you feel comfortable there.
Good points. All he needs to do is go to Central Illinois or Southern Illinois and live there and come here and tell us how much he adores Proud Boys. He will get roasted alive just for being Black. These guys never lived in the country they are obsessed about and they know very little but yell the most.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:08pm On Aug 08, 2021
benalvino3:
So budaatum will excuse terrorist spreading hate but attack a bad guy exposing Muslim grooming gang or any right wing group gathering for hate speech while he allows Muslims to spread hate comfortably. That's why I said these people are confused
Thankfully, buda does not live in America where such lies fall under free speech. You'd notice our trusted police don't go killing people like they do in America.

In UK where buda does live, buda will let the trusted police handle a terrorist or anyone spreading lies on the street.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:09pm On Aug 08, 2021
Today they deport repented Germans who were part of the nazi army or regime despite them being so old, they bring down statues. So by that standard Joe and Hillary don't have excuse for being paddiman with Byrd
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 8:10pm On Aug 08, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Thats klans, nazi, skinheads and other deplorables can tell who is for them. Game recognize game. Trump for example mastered the art of dog whistle very well and used it alot.
There is a reason 90% of African Americans aligned with Democrats and over 51% of all Americans believe Trump is a racist. What these guys that knows America more than Americans is that 90% of African Americans are stupid but these Americana wannabe loud mouths know what's better for us.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:12pm On Aug 08, 2021
budaatum:
Thankfully, buda does not live in America where such lies fall under free speech. You'd notice our trusted police don't go killing people like they do in America.

In UK where buda does live, buda will let the trusted police handle a terrorist or anyone spreading lies on the street.
You are contradicting yourself. Go back and look at your arguments.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:13pm On Aug 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
The reason people are migrating there is because of the favourable economic policies of the Republican states. Many companies are moving from blue states to Red states. When companies move, jobs follow. People follow the jobs. There are many African immigrants living in some blue states who have to struggle for jobs but they all moved to the South and found jobs easily. I know so many of them

And people move to where there are jobs, If only you know the number of Nigerians who migrated to Midland, Odessa axis in mainly rural Texas because of Oil field jobs
Who will be doing the oil field jobs in Odessa, it's mainly educated, metropolitan and diverse mix of people. Of course you will feel comfortable there. Keep the same energy for a town in Alabama or Mississippi.

Meanwhile I can tell you that I can live in any town in UK without fear or fervour
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:17pm On Aug 08, 2021
raumdeuter:
The reason people are migrating there is because of the favourable economic policies of the Republican states. Many companies are moving from blue states to Red states. When companies move, jobs follow. People follow the jobs. There are many African immigrants living in some blue states who have to struggle for jobs but they all moved to the South and found jobs easily. I know so many of them

And people move to where there are jobs, If only you know the number of Nigerians who migrated to Midland, Odessa axis in mainly rural Texas because of Oil field jobs
But it does not reflect on their voting habit.

They will start voting for same policies that made them run away
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m):
raumdeuter:
The remarks was calling Moslem women letterboxes and African men having watermelon smiles and picanninies

These are things you expect from Trump

You want us to jump on Trumps shithole comments, but Johnsons letterboxes are "Much ado about nothing"

Trumps comment is what many Africans call themselves, How many moslem women call themselves letterboxes or Africans call themselves picanninies

Like you Auntie Patience said Kontinuuu. Vice Principal, kontinuu grin grin grin
You are mixing issues. Not to hold brief but the picanninies was 20 years ago.

The letter boxes was an article he wrote as a backbench MP criticising Denmark's ban on the Burkha. This was after Jack Straw a Labour MP refused to speak to woman wearing a burkha until she takes it off. While he said it's aesthetically unpleasing, and he wouldn't want to let someone in his office with a balaclava, same way having the Burkha on looks like speaking to someone through a letterbox but he will defend Muslim women's rights to wear it.

He definitely pushed the boundary on that one and apologised for his use of language but I won't hold brief for him on it.
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