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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:29pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
If it was Trump, it would be an opportunity to grift his uneducated Cultists lol.
Trump's the Master Grifter and a Con Man of no equal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:32pm On Aug 09, 2021
ZooOga:
Update on the political Cosa Nostra boys parting company. wink


TRUMPLAND
Trump Sails Away as Rudy Giuliani Drowns in Legal Bills
THANKS FOR NOTHING
As Giuliani struggles with mounting legal bills, the former president’s longtime friend can’t even get a retweet.

Asawin Suebsaeng
Senior Political Reporter
Adam Rawnsley
Senior Researcher
Updated Aug. 09, 2021 6:16AM ET / Published Aug. 09, 2021 4:54AM ET

As Rudy Giuliani’s legal bills have piled up in recent months—and as federal investigators intensify their probe into Donald Trump’s longtime associate—the former president appears willing to provide just as much help as he usually does when his friends are in need: next to nothing.

For months now, Trump has consistently ignored or rejected Giuliani’s pleas for assistance. And it’s not just that Trump and other prominent Republicans have been unwilling to open up their wallets or war chests to help offset Giuliani’s mounting legal costs; in many cases, Giuliani’s former Trumpworld comrades have declined to even acknowledge the existence of his legal defense fund, which has struggled to raise much of anything from the public.

“There have been times when I’ve asked people in the [former] president’s orbit to see if Trump wanted to draw attention to the fundraising,” said an ally and longtime associate of the former New York City mayor. “That went nowhere. Many of these people wouldn’t even tweet or retweet [links to the legal fund] when I asked them to.”

Trump has made some sympathetic gestures towards his former attorney, as law enforcement officials have closed in on him. When the state of New York yanked Giuliani’s law license, Trump issued a statement calling him the “greatest Mayor in the history of New York City” and “the Eliot Ness of his generation.”

It’s the only formal statement where Trump has mentioned his prior attorney since Twitter suspended the former president’s account. Other than that, Trump has only mentioned Rudy’s legal troubles once before, in an aside on Fox News calling the FBI search of Giuliani’s apartment “unfair” and “a double standard like I don’t think anybody’s ever seen before.”

But while Giuliani’s longtime friend Bernard Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner, has pitched in to create a fundraising site for Rudy’s legal bills, few others have been willing to even throw Trump’s former consigliere an RT on Twitter. (Trump himself can’t retweet anything, as he’s banned from Twitter for instigating political violence, but he could issue a statement of support for Giuliani’s fund and have it spread far and wide through the app.)

Crowdtangle, a search tool for browsing posts to public Facebook groups, pages, and verified accounts, shows that virtually no conservative or MAGA heavyweights have echoed Giuliani’s fundraising links at WinRed and the site set up for him by Kerik. The same is true on Twitter, where verified MAGA mega-follower accounts have largely ignored Giuliani’s attempts to fill his campaign coffers.

The stakes for the former New York mayor couldn’t be higher, as he faces a slew of legal troubles. Courts in New York and Washington, D.C., have suspended his law license, depriving Giuliani of an important source of income.

In the meantime, his legal bills continue to grow. Attorneys for Dominion Voting Systems have filed a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit against Giuliani for echoing wild conspiracy theories about the company’s products. Democratic lawmakers have also accused him—alongside former President Trump—of helping to incite the Jan. 6 riots at the Capitol. And the most serious legal headache for Giuliani looms over all of his troubles: a Justice Department criminal probe into whether he violated foreign lobbying laws through his work in Ukraine.

Naturally, Trump’s sporadic public sympathy hasn’t extended to amplification of Giuliani’s legal defense fund, much less a check from the former president’s well-stocked campaign fund.

According to three sources familiar with the matter, there have been several fruitless attempts this year by Giuliani’s camp to convince Trump to swoop in and provide significant financial support and other forms of assistance to Giuliani. After all, a primary reason Giuliani is even under the investigative gaze of the feds is because of what he did—largely at the former president’s behest—during the Trump-Ukraine scandal.

To Giuliani and his remaining confidants, Trump’s glaring (if predictable) refusal to come to his loyalist’s rescue has been a borderline betrayal of a lawyer who’s landed in legal jeopardy precisely because of how zealously he worked to please Trump.

Still, Giuliani and his advisers are going out of their way to not publicly voice their displeasure with the ex-president’s lack of action or financial relief.

According to a person with knowledge of the matter, Giuliani has reminded those close to him to not name Trump when complaining in public or on social media about how top Republicans have abandoned Giuliani in his time of distress.

“We are allowed to call out the RNC and other Republican leaders,” this source said. “But not Donald Trump.”

Though the former president has remained stingy toward his former top attorney, that hasn’t stopped Trump from throwing Giuliani a bone every once in a while. On Thursday, when the ex-president delivered remarks at a New York GOP fundraiser, he made sure to call Giuliani to the stage, telling attendees, “We love Rudy.”

But beyond Trump’s occasional pat on the head, it’s unclear how many powerful friends Giuliani still has in Trumpland.

In late April, Alan Dershowitz, a celebrity lawyer and Democrat who worked on Trump’s defense team during the first impeachment trial, told The Daily Beast that Giuliani had called him, and that he had agreed to advise Giuliani and his attorneys following the federal raid.

But in the time since, that advisory role appears to be on indefinite hold. “I have not called them, and they haven’t called me,” Dershowitz said in a brief interview on Thursday. “Since then, they have not reached out to me for my advice, and I have not gone to them to offer it.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-sails-away-as-rudy-giuliani-drowns-in-legal-bills?source=articles&via=rss
Trump's very toxic. No one gets close to Trump without getting soiled and i do not have any sympathy for Mayor Guiliani. When you wrestle with a pig, you get dirty. Trump's the sleaziest of all American Presidents.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:36pm On Aug 09, 2021
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 2:52pm On Aug 09, 2021
Surplus jobs. Employees market.
Slow Joe is working and Wailers are crying.

Obixcel. Please post one of those your "altered" comedy videos about Biden LOL.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 3:14pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Surplus jobs. Employees market.
Slow Joe is working and Wailers are crying.

Obixcel. Please post one of those your "altered" comedy videos about Biden LOL.
Keep mute, jobs lost during the pandemic were gotten back, look at the Clown, Biden is a failure
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:15pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Surplus jobs. Employees market.
Slow Joe is working and Wailers are crying.

Obixcel. Please post one of those your "altered" comedy videos about Biden LOL.
They are crying indeed. President Biden has created more jobs in six months than Trump created in his four disastrous and tragic years in office. I wake up every day thanking God that the curse on America and Americans is incosequential in Fruited Plains today. Let him keep on miliking and scamming his gullible uneducated toothless public dough taking welfarists in Appalachia and Deep South. They deserve each other.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:16pm On Aug 09, 2021
Just ignore that idiot above me Goodvibe.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:17pm On Aug 09, 2021
JESHAL:
Keep mute, jobs lost during the pandemic were gotten back, look at the Clown, Biden is a failure
I understand that you are hurt. A jobless Nigerian failure and Wailer.

I read somewhere that you like ejaculating in the shitholes of ashawos. Too much of bluefilm is bad for your mental health and HIV is real.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:18pm On Aug 09, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Just ignore that idiot above me Goodvibe.
Okay. I will ignore. I already gave him 5 seconds of my time. Lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:20pm On Aug 09, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
They are crying indeed. President Biden has created more jobs in six months than Trump created in his four disastrous and tragic years in office. I wake up every day thanking God that the curse on America and Americans is incosequential in Fruited Plains today. Let him keep on miliking and scamming his gullible uneducated toothless public dough taking welfarists in Appalachia and Deep South. They deserve each other.
I hope the Nairaland trumptards have paid for their ID cards. They can add it as part of their application documents when they next apply for a US visa to attend Trump's inauguration.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:22pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Okay. I will ignore. I already gave him 5 seconds of my time. Lol.
I don't understand people on our side still replying these loudmouths that have no functioning brains. Imagine these idiots saying they take the sides of Proud Boys over Black people. Brain damage indeed. Not single one of these fools can cut the mustard in US. With all the woes befallen them in Umudike, they have no way of uplifting the country but they are experts when it comes to America despite the fact that they have never boarded a flight in their miserable lives.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:23pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
I hope the Nairaland trumptards have paid for their ID cards. They can add it as part of their application documents when they next apply for a US visa to attend Trump's inauguration.
Where are they going to get $100 yearly prescription fee from. They hardly can cut it in Naira not to talk of $.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:24pm On Aug 09, 2021
[quote author=basilico post=104588428][/quote]How is IPOB's sit-at-home protest going?

I read on Front page about IPOBs burning a passenger live. Please stay safe. We still need you here on Nairaland LOL.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:27pm On Aug 09, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
I don't understand people on our side still replying these loudmouths that have no functioning brains. Imagine these idiots saying they take the sides of Proud Boys over Black people. Brain damage indeed. Not single one of these fools can cut the mustard in US. With all the woes befallen them in Umudike, they have no way of uplifting the country but they are experts when it comes to America despite the fact that they have never boarded a flight in their miserable lives.
I think it's just an attempt to educate. I once wrote about giving up on the ones I earlier called ignorant, but here I am again telling them about global warming being real like I am tutoring some 4 year old pre-kindergerten kids.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:28pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
LMAO. Okay. We believe your opinion, Benalvino from Port Harcourt, Nigeria.

I know far-right wingers and Science are like Tom and Jerry LOL, so I am not surprised.
Tom and Jerry science, lol.

At this point, I'm wondering how long you'd go on educating the willfully ignorant because its so not easy to resist the temptation to educate and hope they learn, I have found.

budaatum:
When I was like really young, these mates of mine who grew up in Obanikoro Village told me rats talk. Well, even at barely 7, I was atheistic in nature, so I argued that rats don't talk. Now there were like 5 of them, so they ganged up on me calling me all sorts of names and that I know nothing, "rats talk jo!".

One day, about two years later, we were in the home of one of them and NTA was showing Tom and Jerry.

"There," they said, pointing to the telly. "I thought you said rats don't talk?"

Turns out oyinbo rats do talk, silly me!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:29pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
The two of you are very ignorant.
State the obvious, why don't you, lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:33pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Okay. I will ignore. I already gave him 5 seconds of my time. Lol.
Have fun man, engage who ever you want don't be told what to do. This forum is the last place to look up to someone. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:35pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
I think it's just an attempt to educate. I once wrote about giving up on the ones I earlier called ignorant, but here I am again telling them about global warming being real like I am tutoring some 4 year old pre-kindergerten kids.
The sad thing about them is that the more you want them to reason like a sane man, the more they hardened up their insane beliefs. They believe that they know more about the functioning of America than President Biden and his able lieutenants. These guys are really sick and i finally figure that it makes no sense arguing with them. Imagine a guy in Nigeria threatening me that he will make me lose my job and get me indicted for felony. This guy has never been outside of Nigeria in his life and he has a supernatural power to get me lose my job and get me indicted for a crime. No wonder my blood pressure is up now and i am soiling my underwear like Trump. You guys should be ready to open a Go Fund Account for me when Wikipedia guy got me fired. I will need the money to feed and pay for my lawyers too. Bunch of unemployed irritants.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:35pm On Aug 09, 2021
budaatum:
Tom and Jerry science, lol.

At this point, I'm wondering how long you'd go on educating the willfully ignorant because its so not easy to resist the temptation to educate and hope they learn, I have found.
I have to give it to the two of them. They have a way of getting people to engage them even though they can be very annoying.

Ben believes NASA are fudging numbers. What about other countries like China, Russia, Britain, Canada, Germany, Australia? e.t.c I guess they are fudging numbers too LoL.

budaatum:
State the obvious, why don't you, lol.
Lol
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:36pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
I think it's just an attempt to educate. I once wrote about giving up on the ones I earlier called ignorant, but here I am again telling them about global warming being real like I am tutoring some 4 year old pre-kindergerten kids.
I did wonder how long you'd go on since the temptation is irresistible. Rest assured though that they are not the only readers here, and part of your educating is about letting others know how ignorant some may be.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:36pm On Aug 09, 2021
CDC caught lying about 99% deaths from the unvaccinated group.


CDC Director Rochelle Walensky
admitted during a press briefing last
week that her claim that over 99% of
covid patients dying in hospitals were
unvaccinated was a load of crap.
The claim, which was also echoed by
Anthony Fauci, Surgeon General Vivek
Murthy and other top officials, was
shown to be a lie by the CDC's own
data released by the Washington Post
on July 29. The CDC's data showed the
number of covid patient in-hospital
deaths in May were 15% among the
vaccinated, not 0.5% as they all
claimed -- which is 30x higher than
they stated

In other words, to get the 99% number
they not only cherry-picked data from
what ever states they wanted but they
included data from January when
covid deaths were at their peak and
less than 10 percent of Americans had
even taken the vaccine. Additionally,
they excluded the most recent data
showing the vaccines' protection was
waning!.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:37pm On Aug 09, 2021
benalvino3:
Have fun man, engage who ever you want don't be told what to do. This forum is the last place to look up to someone. grin
I don't look up no anyone on the forum. I don't even visit this thread or Nairaland that often. Lol
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:38pm On Aug 09, 2021
budaatum:
I did wonder how long you'd go on since the temptation is irresistible. Rest assured though that they are not the only readers here, and part of your educating is about letting others know how ignorant some may be.
Especially that some of the readers are non-Nigerians. Atleast, they will know that not all Nigerians suck up to proud boys and other white nationalists, or terror groups Lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:40pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
I have to give it to the two of them. They have a way of getting people to engage them even though they can be very annoying.

Ben believes NASA are fudging numbers. What about other countries like China, Russia, Britain, Canada, Germany, Australia? e.t.c I guess they are fudging numbers too LoL.
Lol
Those other countries all sat down and agreed to collude on the deception of climate change just as the whole world has colluded to deceive the entire world that there is a virus called corona that causes covid. We all know its just a trick for them to sell the face masks that they produce in their own companies.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 3:40pm On Aug 09, 2021
Nigerians discussing American politics on Nairaland is none of your business, we have our reasons,we want to learn from developed Societies ideologies doesn't make us jobless or stupid, both the right and the left are poliltcal spectrums, Nigeria has just opposing parties with politicans who stand for nothing,that's why they decamp, what drives politics here is tribalism, religious bigotry and Nepotism, very corrupt and decadent system, individuals with high IQ from Nigeria are on these trend understanding the culture and politics of advanced western societies, may be they plan on relocating, may be they want to school there, may be they want to expand their business there, may be they are just intellectually curious about politics as a subject in general in a sane Societies, may be they want to understand the fundamentals of politics there so they can adopt the meaningful principles and use them to develop Nigeria
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:41pm On Aug 09, 2021
basilico:
CDC caught lying about 99% deaths from the unvaccinated group.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky
admitted during a press briefing last
week that her claim that over 99% of
covid patients dying in hospitals were
unvaccinated was a load of crap.
The claim, which was also echoed by
Anthony Fauci, Surgeon General Vivek
Murthy and other top officials, was
shown to be a lie by the CDC's own
data released by the Washington Post
on July 29. The CDC's data showed the
number of covid patient in-hospital
deaths in May were 15% among the
vaccinated, not 0.5% as they all
claimed -- which is 30x higher than
they stated

In other words, to get the 99% number
they not only cherry-picked data from
what ever states they wanted but they
included data from January when
covid deaths were at their peak and
less than 10 percent of Americans had
even taken the vaccine. Additionally,
they excluded the most recent data
showing the vaccines' protection was
waning!.
Source?

But please don't post link from a conspiracy theory or far right blog.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:42pm On Aug 09, 2021
budaatum:
Those other countries all sat down and agreed to collude on the deception of climate change just as the whole world has colluded to deceive the entire world that there is a virus called corona that causes covid. We all know its just a trick for them to sell the face masks that they produce in their own companies.
LOL. Very simplistic way of thinking.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:42pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Especially that some of the readers are non-Nigerians. Atleast, they will know that not all Nigerians suck up to proud boys and other white nationalists, or terror groups Lol.
You are absolutely correct. These guys are a very little incosequential minority in Nigeria. Most Nigerians are not like these certified Nazi and Proud Boys loving Uncle Tom's.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 3:43pm On Aug 09, 2021
budaatum:
Those other countries all sat down and agreed to collude on the deception of climate change just as the whole world has colluded to deceive the entire world that there is a virus called corona that causes covid. We all know its just a trick for them to sell the face masks that they produce in their own companies.
How come billionaires are fueling jets and going on living their lives in luxury and they are telling peasants to believe in climate change
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:43pm On Aug 09, 2021
Goodvibes007:
I have to give it to the two of them. They have a way of getting people to engage them even though they can be very annoying.

Ben believes NASA are fudging numbers. What about other countries like China, Russia, Britain, Canada, Germany, Australia? e.t.c I guess they are fudging numbers too LoL.


Lol
It is what it is. They have been caught forging data so that's your problem. Today you have been posting Chinese propaganda to make case for China taking measures about climate change. They don't care Goodvibes007, they don't care about anything or agenda the west pushes just so you know.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 3:44pm On Aug 09, 2021
benalvino3:
It is what it is. They have been caught forging data so that's your problem. Today you have been posting Chinese propaganda to make case for China taking measures about climate change. They don't care Goodvibes007, they don't care about anything or agenda the west pushes just so you know.
Atleast they believe climate change is real. EOD
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:45pm On Aug 09, 2021
JESHAL:
How come billionaires are fueling jets and going on living their lives in luxury and they are telling peasants to believe in climate change
How come some people steal yet tell others not to and even imprison those who do steal?
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