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benalvino3:
There is nothing like ozone layer. Lol. You are clueless

Really?

I know you are ignorant, but I did not know it's that bad.

This is high school Physics or Elementary Science in junior grade school.

I am embarrassed. Something is seriously wrong with Nigeria's education system.

Same way you did not know Americans call cheques checks.

I wonder what else you don't know LOL

benalvino3:
They said the sun is getting hotter if you did thermodynamics you will understand

I probably did a lot more thermodynamics than you did Ben. But thermodynamics is not the only explanation for climate change, which you would understand if you had done any thermodynamics at all.

JESHAL:
The issues I have with these climate change is that it's has become heavily politicized, and I can't trust the studies and data because of the people funding the research, rather than independent peer review studies from scientific bodies who would be objective in their analysis and carry out unbiased research, but they would allow their personal ideological subjectivity and also the money from their donors to make them create falsified studies

The beauty of science is you don't have to trust anyone and can simple do peer review studies of your own or go do your own original research. After all, no one stops you seeking the funds to show us all what the climate is doing according to your own research and findings.

In fact, there might be lots of funding to counter the so called "personal ideological subjectivity" that "make them create falsified studies", and no one could exactly argue that you are not independent if you do.

I'm rooting for you because you just might be the one to put my lovely Nigeria on the scientific world stage.

Goodvibes007:
Really?

I know you are ignorant, but I did not know it's that bad.

This is high school Physics or Elementary Science in junior grade school.

I am embarrassed. Something is seriously wrong with Nigeria's education system.

Same way you did not know Americans call cheques checks.

I wonder what else you don't know LOL

Lol, I remember my dad telling me about holes in the ozone layer. He said it was the scare in the 80s. That happens to be a fraud. Why in all this climate change talk no one mentions ozone layer holes again

I heard about the scare of Bermuda triangle too.

Oga, research about the ozone layer scam.

budaatum:
I probably did a lot more thermodynamics than you did Ben. But thermodynamics is not the only explanation for climate change, which you would understand if you had done any thermodynamics at all.

If you know what thermodynamics is you will know it is not for explaining climate change. I am talking about heat transfer here.

benalvino3:
If you know what thermodynamics is you will know it is not for explaining climate change. I am talking about heat transfer here.

And heat transfer has nothing to do with climate change, right, ben?

Goodvibes007:
The one you lied about the director calling the data crap is fake news, but you guys lie day in day out so I am not surprised.

Atleast, you took your head out of the gutter press and posted the real information which the director confirm by answering YES to the CNN question.

What u saying? The video is transcribed also.

You are arguing like this leftist masquerading as a reporter.

New York Times White House
correspondent Annie Karni defended
the super-spreader event telling CNN
hack Jim Acosta, “Other people said
this is really being overblown. They’re
following all the safety precautions.
People are going to sporting events
bigger than this. This is going to be
safe. This is a sophisticated,
vaccinated crowd. And this is just
about optics. It’s not about safety.”

budaatum:
And heat transfer has nothing to do with climate change, right, ben?

Now we are talking.
When I said the sun is getting hotter it means the earth is getting hotter as well.

benalvino3:
Now we are talking.
When I said the sun is getting hotter it means the earth is getting hotter as well.

Who gives Bill Gates the right to try out such experiments.

Remember the project where Bill
Gates wanted to cover the sun to
cool the Earth? Well, this summer,
the tests will begin. According to The
Times, a large balloon will soon be
launched in Sweden that will spew
out particles of calcium carbonate,
which is essentially “chalk dust.”
The Controlled Stratospheric
Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx)
wants to prove that the release of
this dust into the stratosphere could
eventually divert some of the sun's
energy and lower the temperatures
of our planet.

basilico:
Who gives Bill Gates the right to try out such experiments.

Remember the project where Bill
Gates wanted to cover the sun to
cool the Earth? Well, this summer,
the tests will begin. According to The
Times, a large balloon will soon be
launched in Sweden that will spew
out particles of calcium carbonate,
which is essentially “chalk dust.”
The Controlled Stratospheric
Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx)
wants to prove that the release of
this dust into the stratosphere could
eventually divert some of the sun's
energy and lower the temperatures
of our planet.

Too much money, they want to feel like gods

benalvino3:
Now we are talking.
When I said the sun is getting hotter it means the earth is getting hotter as well.

The sun getting hotter is however not the only cause of climate change.

Depleting the ozone layer is like removing the covering that allows the sun to burn the earth hotter for instance, and we do know how we deplete the ozone, right?

The ozone layer was a scam.
We have many protection from interstellar forces. The one are the forefront is the earth's magnetic field. It shields the earth from electromagnetic pulse from the sun. There are some storms or solar flair that could have a huge impact on the earth's atmosphere with out the field.

Now when you talk to ozone layer and how it heats up stuff, you are talking about the hysteria that was spread in the 80s which is why I said it does not exist. The ozone protects us from uv rays. Main issues with UV rays is skin cancer not heat.

Now, they said they discovered holes in the north pole and if that was the case and the holes will take decades to close. Why didn't the ices at the poles melt off in rapid pace in the 70s and 80s? Because UV is what ozone shield us from not the heat of the sun.

How does the ozone form? It forms with sun light naturally and why was there less ozone at the north pole? Becuase at winter the north pole don't get sunlight for up to 6months. Now Goodvibes007 why is it that it is only the northpole they get less ozone? I already explained. Everything was natural.

The global warming scam was in place then and companies benefited from it. How does a gas they claim punch holes in the ozone traveled from US, UK to the northpole to cause a hole while no hole ever opened in the US? Doesn't make sense. A company called du-Pont was at the center of this scam

budaatum:
The sin getting hotter is however not the only cause if climate change.

Depleting the ozone layer is like removing the covering that allows the sun to burn the earth hotter for instance, and we do know how we deplete the ozone, right?

Ozone layer does not protect me earth from heat from the sun. It only protects the earth from UV ray A and uv ray B. What you heard about the ozone layer in 80s was kinda a fear monger campaign. In the 80s the ozone layer holes was linked to skin cancer fear not global warming

benalvino3:
Ozone layer does not protect me earth from heat from the sun. It only protects the earth from UV ray A and uv ray B.

And "UV ray A and uv ray B" has nothing to do with climate change, right, Ben?

https://serc.si.edu/research/research-topics/global-change/changes-ultraviolet-radiation

Her husband needs this life-support machine, and says Florida has none to spare:

Susan Walker has been calling out-of-state hospitals trying to get help for her husband, who did not get vaccinated against Covid-19 and is now in a medically induced coma.

“He is on a ventilator and in dire need of an ECMO treatment, which is not available at the hospital that he is in,” the Florida mother said Sunday.

“All the beds are taken up by Covid victims also getting ECMO.”

An ECMO treatment uses external machinery that can function as the heart and lungs. It’s been used with some severely ill Covid-19 patients, including young adults.

“We have searched every hospital from the south of Florida to the north part of Florida” trying to find availability, Walker said.

“To transfer him to a hospital in Florida is next to impossible.”

Her Husband told her he regrets not getting vaccinated and begs her to go get vaccinated. (At 2.29s mark in the video). She is now vaccinated.

Across the country, states are struggling to fend off the Delta variant — the most contagious strain of coronavirus yet.

But the situation in particularly worrisome in several Southern states.

Louisiana set a new record for Covid-19 hospitalizations last week.

Florida’s hospitalizations recently jumped 13% above the state’s previous peak on July 23, 2020, according to a survey by the Florida Hospital Association.

The FHA said it expects 60% of the state’s hospitals to face a “critical staffing shortage” by this week.

And at Houston’s United Memorial Medical Center, “We have no beds. The emergency department is full of patients just waiting to be able to get into the hospital,” Chief of Staff Dr. Joseph Varon said Sunday morning.

“Over the last 12 hours, we have lost more patients than … in the last five to six weeks.”

According to data published Sunday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 50.1% of the total US population is now fully vaccinated — more than 166 million people.

As of Sunday, Mississippi has fully vaccinated 35.2% of its residents. That makes Alabama — with 34.8% of its residents fully vaccinated — the only state in the US to have fully vaccinated less than 35% of its residents.

The seven-day average of doses administered each day is now 706,323 doses, per the CDC data, and an average of 449,000 people are initiating vaccination each day.

More hospitalizations and deaths expected:

The US now is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases every day — the highest in almost six months, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

“It’s bad. For me, this is a deja vu of what we had last year,” Varon said.

“And the worst part about this is this was foreseeable. And this was preventable. So not only are (we) exhausted, we’re annoyed. And we’re annoyed because people are not doing the right thing.”

The vast majority of those getting hospitalized with or dying from Covid-19 are not fully vaccinated, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the CDC, said last week.

And Americans who have already had Covid-19 shouldn’t assume they don’t need a shot.

For adults previously infected with Covid-19, vaccines give better protection against reinfection than natural immunity on its own, according to a CDC study published Friday.

The study suggests people who got Covid-19 in 2020 and didn’t get vaccinated were more than twice as likely to be reinfected in May or June 2021, compared with people who also had Covid-19 but were later fully vaccinated.

“If you have had Covid-19 before, please still get vaccinated,” Walensky said Friday.

There is no minimum time to wait between recovering from Covid-19 and getting vaccinated, the CDC said.

“Getting the vaccine is the best way to protect yourself and others around you,” Walensky said, “especially as the more contagious Delta variant spreads around the country.”

Children’s hospitals are getting overwhelmed:

“Something very scary now is happening in the SOUTHERN UNITED STATE. We are seeing this massive surge of hospitalizations of young people that we’ve never seen before in hospitals across the South,” said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, TEXAS.

“It’s many, many young people, including, I’m sorry to say, many children’s hospital admissions. And for the first time that I can remember, we’re starting to see pediatric intensive care units get overwhelmed, which we never really saw before.”

As of Tuesday, an average of 192 children with Covid-19 were admitted to US hospitals every day over the past week, CDC data shows.

That’s a 45.7% increase from the previous week in daily new hospitalizations among Covid-19 patients ages 0 to 17.

In the MIAMI area, “our children’s hospitals are completely overwhelmed,” said Dr. Aileen Marty, an infectious disease expert at Florida International University.

“Our pediatricians, the nursing, the staff are exhausted. And the children are suffering,” Marty said.

“It is absolutely devastating … We’ve never seen numbers like this before.”

With more than 164 million Americans fully vaccinated, tens of thousands might get Covid-19 later on, Walensky said.

Even though there’s no coronavirus in any of the vaccines used in the US, breakthrough infections are expected — like with other vaccines.

Those who do get breakthrough infections generally have mild or no symptoms. As of late July, more than 99.99% of fully vaccinated Americans have NOT had a Covid-19 infection leading to hospitalization, according to CDC data.

The tiny fraction of breakthrough infections that do lead to hospitalization can include those who are immunocompromised or elderly.

Those two groups may be among the first to get an additional dose of vaccine, said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

Because the Covid-19 vaccines require an immune response to work, those who are immunocompromised or taking immune-suppressing drugs might not get adequate protection with a vaccine.

“We will almost certainly be boosting those people before we boost the general population that’s been vaccinated,” Fauci said Sunday. “And we should be doing that reasonably soon, I believe.”

He said the next group that may need boosters sooner than the general population are those over age 60. Fauci said the CDC is studying different age groups to see how long vaccines may stay effective.

In Texas, Ava Amira Rivera — an 11-month-old Covid-19 patient — had to be airlifted to a hospital 150 miles away because of a shortage of pediatric beds in the Houston area.

None of the major pediatric hospitals in the area had beds available, said Amanda Callaway, a spokeswoman for Harris Health System.

The baby’s condition has since stabilized, and she is no longer intubated.

budaatum:
And "UV ray A and uv ray B" has nothing to do with climate change, right, Ben?

https://serc.si.edu/research/research-topics/global-change/changes-ultraviolet-radiation

What kind of question is this? Did you not read what I said?

I said UV rays does not cause climate change oga. Stop trying to twist. What posted says climate change cause UV rays to penetrate to the surface of the earth causing cancer. Try not to be disingenuous or strawman me.

Goodvibes007:
Across the country, states are struggling to fend off the Delta variant — the most contagious strain of coronavirus yet.

But the situation in particularly worrisome in several Southern states.

Louisiana set a new record for Covid-19 hospitalizations last week.

Florida’s hospitalizations recently jumped 13% above the state’s previous peak on July 23, 2020, according to a survey by the Florida Hospital Association.

The FHA said it expects 60% of the state’s hospitals to face a “critical staffing shortage” by this week.

And at Houston’s United Memorial Medical Center, “We have no beds. The emergency department is full of patients just waiting to be able to get into the hospital,” Chief of Staff Dr. Joseph Varon said Sunday morning.

“Over the last 12 hours, we have lost more patients than … in the last five to six weeks.”

According to data published Sunday by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 50.1% of the total US population is now fully vaccinated — more than 166 million people.

As of Sunday, Mississippi has fully vaccinated 35.2% of its residents. That makes Alabama — with 34.8% of its residents fully vaccinated — the only state in the US to have fully vaccinated less than 35% of its residents.

The seven-day average of doses administered each day is now 706,323 doses, per the CDC data, and an average of 449,000 people are initiating vaccination each day.

Data can be interpreted many ways. You seem good at looking for it .
I would prefer data on how the percentage of employees who are vaccinated that work for
CDC
FDA
Pfizer.

Think you can dig up that for comparison purposes vis-a-vis state wide?

Climate change is real. It's been politicised and weaponised but it doesn't change the fact that it's real. And the ozone layer is really depleting. There are practical ways to prove this.

But, the truth is, climate change has been happening for millions of years. Antarctica and the Artic circle were once lush green forested continents just as the Sahara Desert was as vegetated as the Amazon Forest at a point.

The Earth has continued to freeze and warm over for millions of years and would continue to do so.

Planting more trees would cool certain deforested areas and even purify the air but all that carbon-cutting nonsense wouldn't significantly change the fact that the Earth would still warm over with or without us.

When the previous periods of global warming happened, humans weren't even around. How can you blame global warming on us? The air pollution blame is more fitting.

It's arrogance to think we can stop the Earth warming up. No scientific data proves this. None!

benalvino3:
What kind of question is this? Did you not read what I said?

I said UV rays does not cause climate change oga. Stop trying to twist. What posted says climate change cause UV rays to penetrate to the surface of the earth causing cancer. Try not to be disingenuous or strawman me.

I am certain the entire point was about human contribution to climate change and not the sun, but trust you to get lost in that which is far too complex for your puny mind!

DissTroy:
Climate change is real. It's been politicised and weaponised but it doesn't change the fact that it's real. And the ozone layer is really depleting. There are practical ways to prove this.

But, the truth is, climate change has been happening for millions of years. Antarctica and the Artic circle were once lush green forested continents just as the Sahara Desert was as vegetated as the Amazon Forest at a point.

The Earth has continued to freeze and warm over for millions of years and would continue to do so.

Planting more trees would cool certain deforested areas and even purify the air but all that carbon-cutting nonsense wouldn't significantly change the fact that the Earth would still warm over with or without us.

When the previous periods of global warming happened, humans weren't even around. How can you blame global warming on us? The air pollution blame is more fitting.

It's arrogance to think we can stop the Earth warming up. No scientific data proves this. None!

Atleast you are smarter than Benalvino. We can slow it down for the earth to stabilize itself "if" we can't stop it.

DissTroy:
Climate change is real. It's been politicised and weaponised but it doesn't change the fact that it's real. And the ozone layer is really depleting. There are practical ways to prove this.

But, the truth is, climate change has been happening for millions of years. Antarctica and the Artic circle were once lush green forested continents just as the Sahara Desert was as vegetated as the Amazon Forest at a point.

The Earth has continued to freeze and warm over for millions of years and would continue to do so.

Planting more trees would cool certain deforested areas and even purify the air but all that carbon-cutting nonsense wouldn't significantly change the fact that the Earth would still warm over with or without us.

When the previous periods of global warming happened, humans weren't even around. How can you blame global warming on us? The air pollution blame is more fitting.

It's arrogance to think we can stop the Earth warming up. No scientific data proves this. None!

What is causing the depletion of the ozone layer and what region of the earth are we seeing the depletion

Climate change is constant. No one argues this. It was called global warming before they changed it to what is obvious. It's like saying black lives matter. Of course it matters but the Organization black live matters is fraud.

So help me answer these question because carbon emissions does not affect the ozone.

budaatum:
I am certain the entire point was about human contribution to climate change and not the sun, but trust you to get lost in that which is far too complex for your puny mind!

What you replied to was me saying the holes ozone layer does not affect the earth to cause global warming instead it cause cancer. The link you provided supported my point. The only place they claim holes occurred in the entire earth was at the poles and the ices did not melt.

Again there are less ozone at the poles or more ozone depletion at the poles because of lack of sun light which help creates the chemical bonding they gives us the ozone layer. DissTroy you need to look into this too.

Research du Pont how they have freon for refrigerators and ac and other spray. Because they are going to lose their patent, this whole ozone hole hysteria started, and in Canada they ban all the product with that particular formula to create freon but after they did that du Pont released entirely new products with patent for higher price. All these happened at once

Today if they talk about climate change no one mentions ozone layer.

Also, all those gas from freons they say deplete the ozone layers managed to all travel to the north poles. Ask yourself those questions

Goodvibes007:
Atleast you are smarter than Benalvino. We can slow it down for the earth to stabilize itself "if" we can't stop it.

You are reiterating what I stated - we can only cool down deforested areas and purify air in these areas but no measure we would take would stop global warming. In a 100,000 years or even less, the Earth is expected to even get cooler given we avoid any asteroid impact.

There's a 100,000-year circle for global warming and freezing. And this has been happening for millennia.

Global warming is a political weapon. It's a good thing China and Russia have been resisting the sanctions and pressure.

Goodvibes007:
Atleast you are smarter than Benalvino. We can slow it down for the earth to stabilize itself "if" we can't stop it.

Good vibe the same people who are telling you we can slow global warming and reverse it are the same people telling you the earth has been going through global warming cycles long before humans evolved. Think na

benalvino3:
What is causing the depletion of the ozone layer and what region of the earth are we seeing the depletion

Climate change is constant. No one argues this. It was called global warming before they changed it to what is obvious. It's like saying black lives matter. Of course it matters but the Organization black live matters is fraud.

So help me answer these question because carbon emissions does not affect the ozone.

High carbon emissions does affect the ozone layer. Ozone is actually an isotope of oxygen. Before it gets to where the ozone layer is, most of the emitted substance would have dissipated or been absolved. The ozone later is several kilometers above.

Let's just say Ozone is ice and oxygen is cool water. Both are cool but cool water would heat up quicker and the emissions sort of break the ice up.
The ocean even plays more roles in cooking the earth than the ozone layer.

But cool water or warm water - the earth would eventually heat up then cool down. We are arrogant pricks for thinking we can stop the process or alter it.

Goodvibes007:
Her husband needs this life-support machine, and says Florida has none to spare:

Susan Walker has been calling out-of-state hospitals trying to get help for her husband, who did not get vaccinated against Covid-19 and is now in a medically induced coma.

“He is on a ventilator and in dire need of an ECMO treatment, which is not available at the hospital that he is in,” the Florida mother said Sunday.

“All the beds are taken up by Covid victims also getting ECMO.”

An ECMO treatment uses external machinery that can function as the heart and lungs. It’s been used with some severely ill Covid-19 patients, including young adults.

“We have searched every hospital from the south of Florida to the north part of Florida” trying to find availability, Walker said.

“To transfer him to a hospital in Florida is next to impossible.”

Her Husband told her he regrets not getting vaccinated and begs her to go get vaccinated. (At 2.29s mark in the video). She is now vaccinated.

The more they die the better for us in 2022 and 2024. Florida, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama and other Southern States are in bad shape now and guess what, they are all Republican States. That's what following a death cult is. No sympathy from me as long as they are willingly committing suicides.

benalvino3:
What you replied to was me saying the holes ozone layer does not affect the earth to cause global warming instead it cause cancer. The link you provided supported my point. The only place they claim holes occurred in the entire earth was at the poles and the ices did not melt.

It is amusing that you who infers that "maths is racist" from a book about racism in maths instruction, can not infer how "UV ray A and uv ray B" affects the climate from the following, but I guess it is to be expected from someone who selectively infers to suit his narrative.

Ultraviolet radiation affects many processes connected with the carbon cycle. It inhibits photosynthesis in plants and algae, particularly phytoplankton which produce roughly half of the oxygen in the atmosphere. Ultraviolet radiation has both positive and negative effects on nutrient cycling and decomposition. On the positive side, UV degrades colored dissolved organic matter (CDOM), making these compounds more available for nutrient-cycling bacteria, and “cleans” water, making light more available to aquatic photosynthetic organisms. However, UV can slow growth and potentially kill nutrient cycling bacteria. The balance between “cleaning” and “killing” depends on water depth and clarity.

Tidal wetlands are sources of CDOM to estuarine and coastal waters, and thus have a major role in the UV transparency and carbon budgets of these ecosystems. Understanding the water and carbon exchange between tidal wetlands and estuaries helps us understand how UV might affect these ecosystems, and sheds light on how we manage natural resources and carbon budgets in the context of climate change.
https://serc.si.edu/research/research-topics/global-change/changes-ultraviolet-radiation

I'll let diss educate you on how plants affect climate change, since he proposes "Planting more trees". Hopefully, you'll make the connection with "photosynthesis in plants and algae, particularly phytoplankton which produce roughly half of the oxygen in the atmosphere".

budaatum:
particularly phytoplankton which produce roughly half of the oxygen in the atmosphere".

Exactly! The oceans play the most role in giving us the needed oxygen and cooling lands down (the part we live on). Why then with all the carbon-emission-cutting nonsense as the panacea to global warming?

Say it would make our air purer and I could argue that - planting more trees is a better option if you want development too. It would happen. We are closer to the heating up than to the last Ice Age. After that, most things would freeze up and on and on.

All we can do is to make our air purer. Even if all humans died now and all machines stoked working, the Earth would still heat up.

And the west have particularly targeted emerging economies with that blackmail - Russia and China and the likes.

benalvino3:
Today if they talk about climate change no one mentions ozone layer.

You need to pay attention. The first was today.

Ozone layer success shows climate crisis can be tackled with political willpower: The Yorkshire Post says https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/ozone-layer-success-shows-climate-crisis-can-be-tackled-with-political-willpower-the-yorkshire-post-says-3339591

Fixing Old Appliances Can Help Limit Ozone Layer Damage https://www.theexaminernews.com/commentary-fixing-old-appliances-can-help-limit-ozone-layer-damage/