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US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 12:31pm On Aug 13, 2021
USA equipped Free Syrian Army to topple Al Assad in 2014.
They failed woefully as soon as Russia stepped in to protect Al Assad.

Today, Al Assad remains the Leader of Syria.
While the regions Supported and equipped by USA remains under rubble.

USA stood against Taliban in Afghanistan in support of the US favored Government.
Afghans know they are still in bondage.

Iraq still a fragile State.

How is it that Russia won in Crimea and Syria, but US kept failing everywhere?

Kandahar Fell again to Taliban.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/13/asia/afghanistan-kandahar-falls-taliban-intl-hnk/index.html

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by EKONGKING: 3:16pm On Aug 13, 2021
Too much Hollywood is not good for everybody.
Usa is paper pussy

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by mysticwarrior(m): 6:01pm On Aug 13, 2021
The Americans are always fleeing from battles, they fled from the Korean war, Fled from Vietnam, fled from Somalia, sneaked out of Iraq, backout from Syria and ran away from Afghanistan. Its disappointing that the US has not been able to restore peace in those countries they moved their forces to, always leaving them in ruins.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by joyandfaith: 7:45pm On Aug 13, 2021
Olaolufred:
USA equipped Free Syrian Army to topple Al Assad in 2014.
They failed woefully as soon as Russia stepped in to protect Al Assad.

Today, Al Assad remains the Leader of Syria.
While the regions Supported and equipped by USA remains under rubble.

USA stood against Taliban in Afghanistan in support of the US favored Government.
Afghans know they are still in bondage.

Iraq still a fragile State.

How is it that Russia won in Crimea and Syria, but US kept failing everywhere?

Kandahar Fell again to Taliban.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/13/asia/afghanistan-kandahar-falls-taliban-intl-hnk/index.html

Can u tell us about why Soviet army failed in Afghanistan during Soviet-Afghanistan war?
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by mysticwarrior(m): 10:20pm On Aug 13, 2021
joyandfaith:


Can u tell us about why Soviet army failed in Afghanistan during Soviet-Afghanistan war?
Gorbachev policy of Glasnost (openness and freedom of expression) gave room for a loud cry from soviet citizens condemning the invasion of Afghanistan. The soviets back home also called for the withdrawal of their troops, Gorbachev also sees the need of ending the cold war and strengthening relationship with the west, and there were no better ways to demonstrate that than to order the withdrawal of soviet Troops, and this was done simply for political reasons.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 10:54pm On Aug 13, 2021
joyandfaith:


Can u tell us about why Soviet army failed in Afghanistan during Soviet-Afghanistan war?

1989 was the year Russia left Afghanistan, not really because USA and its allies are anything to be scared about.
But because Gorbachev was being pressured at home to stop that mission.

In that war, US used Taliban, and even Al Qaeda to try to frustrate Russia.

Osama bin laden knew more of how to hit American hard because he knew something when he was being used by US.

Both Al Qaeda and Taliban have chased US out of Afghanistan eventually and taken their lands.

You know how Niger deltan militants rose from being given guns for electoral gains by politicians.

That is same way they equipped Boko Haram before they went stronger than their patron.

US is a joker. Short-term success and long-term failures.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by joyandfaith: 11:10pm On Aug 13, 2021
Olaolufred:


1989 was the year Russia left Afghanistan, not really because USA and its allies are anything to be scared about.
But because Gorbachev was being pressured at home to stop that mission.

In that war, US used Taliban, and even Al Qaeda to try to frustrate Russia.

Osama bin laden knew more of how to hit American hard because he knew something when he was being used by US.

Both Al Qaeda and Taliban have chased US out of Afghanistan eventually and taken their lands.

You know how Niger deltan militants rose from being given guns for electoral gains by politicians.

That is same way they equipped Boko Haram before they went stronger than their patron.

US is a joker. Short-term success and long-term failures.

How many years did Soviets fight in Afghanistan? What did Soviets achieve?
US supported talibans according to you? Which nations are supporting talibans against Us now?
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 11:51pm On Aug 13, 2021
joyandfaith:


How many years did Soviets fight in Afghanistan? What did Soviets achieve?
US supported talibans according to you? Which nations are supporting Talibans against Us now?


Soviet was in Afghanistan for 8 years (1981 to 1989).
The soviets achieved nothing.
Yes US armed Talibans and used them as guerillas against Russian troupes.
I don't know who is supporting Talibans now. All I know is that US had been in Afghanistan since 2002 (almost 20 years).
Talibans are still taking over the second largest city in Afghanistan. It's like taking over Lagos in place of Abuja (the seat of Govt).

Again, Russia failed to achieve the end they desired in 1989, now US has done it again and again since then failing everywhere.
Somalia, Libya are close enough.
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by HornyTave: 3:38am On Aug 14, 2021
US is a capitalist country and not a communist country. you need to understand the economy principle a country practices, hence the tract the military would follow.
the road map of the military is basically the will power of the political class.
America has a huge annual budget and Arms industry is the biggest industry in America.
What they do, as History has it is, start a crisis with a rich nation, sell arms to them, fuel the crisis from two or three dimensions, after milking the country, they leave

Check the networth or America's Defense industry and you would understand the game behind it.
If you need peace, let America stay far away from you.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by mysticwarrior(m): 4:41am On Aug 14, 2021
HornyTave:
US is a capitalist country and not a communist country. you need to understand the economy principle a country practices, hence the tract the military would follow.
the road map of the military is basically the will power of the political class.
America has a huge annual budget and Arms industry is the biggest industry in America.
What they do, as History has it is, start a crisis with a rich nation, sell arms to them, fuel the crisis from two or three dimensions, after milking the country, they leave

Check the networth or America's Defense industry and you would understand the game behind it.
If you need peace, let America stay far away from you.
but Vietnam, Somalia, and Afghanistan are not rich Nations so what was their missions there? Secondly You think some nations tremble when they see the US defense budget? Let me quickly remind you that defense budgets don't win battle. In 1993 Somali militias loyal to Mohammed Farah Aidid shot down two American black hawk helicopters worth $10 million each with just a $300 RPGs, this was a huge embarrassment to the US defense budget and Bill Clinton had to ordered all US forces to flee from somalia.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by mysticwarrior(m): 5:15am On Aug 14, 2021
joyandfaith:


How many years did Soviets fight in Afghanistan? What did Soviets achieve?
US supported talibans according to you? Which nations are supporting talibans against Us now?
the soviet stayed in Afghanistan for 9 years after encountering bitter resistance from the Mujahedeen fighters, the mujahedeen were backed up by the US, Pakistan and China, the Soviets had to leave after the Geneva accord on a multilateral diplomatic negotiation. China, Iran, Russia and soudi Arabia indirectly supported the Taliban just to frustrate and punish the US.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Anago55: 6:39am On Aug 14, 2021
Russian hackers are on nairaland. Russian Ops is going on in our cyberspace.

How best do you explain the incessant pro Russian writers and influencers happening here every minute of the day?

I guess they get paid per post like the Nigeria's BMC
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by joyandfaith: 7:38am On Aug 14, 2021
mysticwarrior:
the soviet stayed in Afghanistan for 9 years after encountering bitter resistance from the Mujahedeen fighters, the mujahedeen were backed up by the US, Pakistan and China, the Soviets had to leave after the Geneva accord on a multilateral diplomatic negotiation. China, Iran, Russia and soudi Arabia indirectly supported the Taliban just to frustrate and punish the US.


Cold war
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by HornyTave: 8:48am On Aug 14, 2021
mysticwarrior:
but Vietnam, Somalia, and Afghanistan are not rich Nations so what was their missions there? Secondly You think some nations tremble when they see the US defense budget? Let me quickly remind you that defense budgets don't win battle. In 1993 Somali militias loyal to Mohammed Farah Aidid shot down two American black hawk helicopters worth $10 million each with just a $300 RPGs, this was a huge embarrassment to the US defense budget and Bill Clinton had to ordered all US forces to flee from somalia.

Lol.
The US-Viet Cong war was a huge embarrassment to the US, seriously, they failed in Viet, though it was a longer path of the Cold war
Somalia was a different scenario.
The operation in Somalia was a UN backed peace keeping mission, with US, and the major power player.
The objective in Somalia was to allow the free flow of distribution of HUMANITARIAN AID in the southern region and not bring peace. In fact, the Bush administration planned it to be less than 7 months but it took them 15 months to achieve their objective, also they were more 10 countries in that operation, including Nigeria, Pakistan, Canada etc.
it is very possible to down a helicopter with a high calibre rifle, hit the fuel tank, and it goes boom.
In 2014/16, The Kurds fighters in Syria downed a Russian made attack helicopter with a RPG, so there's nothing special in that
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by mysticwarrior(m): 10:01am On Aug 14, 2021
HornyTave:


Lol.
The US-Viet Cong war was a huge embarrassment to the US, seriously, they failed in Viet, though it was a longer path of the Cold war
Somalia was a different scenario.
The operation in Somalia was a UN backed peace keeping mission, with US, and the major power player.
The objective in Somalia was to allow the free flow of distribution of HUMANITARIAN AID in the southern region and not bring peace. In fact, the Bush administration planned it to be less than 7 months but it took them 15 months to achieve their objective, also they were more 10 countries in that operation, including Nigeria, Pakistan, Canada etc.
it is very possible to down a helicopter with a high calibre rifle, hit the fuel tank, and it goes boom.
In 2014/16, The Kurds fighters in Syria downed a Russian made attack helicopter with a RPG, so there's nothing special in that
does the helicopter belonged to the Russian military?
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 11:45am On Aug 14, 2021
HornyTave:
US is a capitalist country and not a communist country. you need to understand the economy principle a country practices, hence the tract the military would follow.
the road map of the military is basically the will power of the political class.
America has a huge annual budget and Arms industry is the biggest industry in America.
What they do, as History has it is, start a crisis with a rich nation, sell arms to them, fuel the crisis from two or three dimensions, after milking the country, they leave

Check the networth or America's Defense industry and you would understand the game behind it.
If you need peace, let America stay far away from you.

That is the real picture and the big picture Bro.

I was going there with JOY and faith so that they will stop looking at a fake messiah.

They kept disrupting the peace of nations, making people dead for the money they want to make.

Evil nation trying to make people believe only others are evil.

Green snake under green grass.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 1:12pm On Aug 14, 2021
Anago55:
Russian hackers are on nairaland. Russian Ops is going on in our cyberspace.

How best do you explain the incessant pro Russian writers and influencers happening here every minute of the day?

I guess they get paid per post like the Nigeria's BMC


USA is losing to Taliban in Afghanistan.

They kept disrupting the peace of nations, making people dead for the money they want to make.

Evil nation trying to make people believe only others are evil.

Green snake under green grass.

They couldn't hide their evil identity forever.
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by michresakidjo(m): 3:00pm On Aug 14, 2021
Afghanistan debacle nko.... Good the soviet invaded Afghanistan in search for a warm water port they were met with a stiff hand from mujahedin who were largely armed to the teeth by the Western "catapultalsits" states.



I read the soviet pulled out after serious casualties suffered from the "American sting missiles"
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by seunny4lif(m): 3:42pm On Aug 14, 2021
Kurds never down any Russia airforce jets or Helicopter
Kurds have never go against the Russia military in Syria.

The helicopter down by Turkish military was owned by Syria military
HornyTave:


Lol.
The US-Viet Cong war was a huge embarrassment to the US, seriously, they failed in Viet, though it was a longer path of the Cold war
Somalia was a different scenario.
The operation in Somalia was a UN backed peace keeping mission, with US, and the major power player.
The objective in Somalia was to allow the free flow of distribution of HUMANITARIAN AID in the southern region and not bring peace. In fact, the Bush administration planned it to be less than 7 months but it took them 15 months to achieve their objective, also they were more 10 countries in that operation, including Nigeria, Pakistan, Canada etc.
it is very possible to down a helicopter with a high calibre rifle, hit the fuel tank, and it goes boom.
In 2014/16, The Kurds fighters in Syria downed a Russian made attack helicopter with a RPG, so there's nothing special in that
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by seunny4lif(m): 3:43pm On Aug 14, 2021
mysticwarrior:
does the helicopter belonged to the Russian military?
No Russia military helicopter have been down by Kurds

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by HornyTave: 3:44pm On Aug 14, 2021
mysticwarrior:
does the helicopter belonged to the Russian military?

It was a Russian made, so wtf are u saying ?
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 4:01pm On Aug 14, 2021
michresakidjo:
Afghanistan debacle nko.... Good the soviet invaded Afghanistan in search for a warm water port they were met with a stiff hand from mujahedin who were largely armed to the teeth by the Western "catapultalsits" states.



I read the soviet pulled out after serious casualties suffered from the "American sting missiles"

After then, how many places has USA gotten to and make them better than they were?

Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia etc.

The last time Russian lost was 1989.

USA had been loosing like joke after then.

That is the main point here.

They just lost to Taliban in Kandahar.

Very soon, it will be the loss of the whole country of Afghanistan.

When I heard that US is trying to give visa to Afghans who worked with them or assisted them covertly during their stay in Afghanistan, I knew they had lost the battle.

More episodes ahead.
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by seunny4lif(m): 4:08pm On Aug 14, 2021
A Russia made?
What has a Russia or USA made jets or helicopter got to do with it been shot down if the Russians or the USA military are not the one operating it.

Kurds has never face Russia armed force because if they tried it, even the USA wouldn’t be able to save them just like the USA can’t saved them against the Turkish military force until Russia military step in
HornyTave:


It was a Russian made, so wtf are u saying ?
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by mysticwarrior(m): 4:57pm On Aug 14, 2021
seunny4lif:
A Russia made?
What has a Russia or USA made jets or helicopter got to do with it been shot down if the Russians or the USA military are not the one operating it.

Kurds has never face Russia armed force because if they tried it, even the USA wouldn’t be able to save them just like the USA can’t saved them against the Turkish military force until Russia military step in
thumb up for you Bro.
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by smallrincowis16(m): 5:04pm On Aug 14, 2021
mysticwarrior:
the soviet stayed in Afghanistan for 9 years after encountering bitter resistance from the Mujahedeen fighters, the mujahedeen were backed up by the US, Pakistan and China, the Soviets had to leave after the Geneva accord on a multilateral diplomatic negotiation. China, Iran, Russia and soudi Arabia indirectly supported the Taliban just to frustrate and punish the US.



Any proof of this?? Another propaganda.

Taliban are still using western ammunitions.

There were even gains during soviet time because after the soviet army left no city was conquered until after about 2 years amid internal political problems of the ruling party
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by mysticwarrior(m): 8:20pm On Aug 14, 2021
smallrincowis16:



Any proof of this?? Another propaganda.

Taliban are still using western ammunitions.

There were even gains during soviet time because after the soviet army left no city was conquered until after about 2 years amid internal political problems of the ruling party
the Kalashnikovs used by the Taliban's are from where?
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 10:58pm On Aug 14, 2021
Afghanistan has 34 district capitals.
Taliban in control of 22 district capitals.
How many remained (12).

USA backed Ashraf ghani now have only two important cities under it's control, namely the capital Kabul and Jalalabad.

Biden is sending 5000 military men to help ensure safe evacuation of citizens and interests.

After the evacuation, what becomes of the remaining Afghans?

US gave guns to them to fight Russia in the 80s.
Those US Armed in the 80s are sending them parking in 2021.

No one truly knows tommorow - particularly USA.

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Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 7:47pm On Aug 15, 2021
Kabul fell.
American success.

Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by HornyTave: 8:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
seunny4lif:
A Russia made?
What has a Russia or USA made jets or helicopter got to do with it been shot down if the Russians or the USA military are not the one operating it.

Kurds has never face Russia armed force because if they tried it, even the USA wouldn’t be able to save them just like the USA can’t saved them against the Turkish military force until Russia military step in

The issue in the middle east is a complex one. The US and Russia federation cant do shit to a country that's determined or an ideology the people accepts.
If the people takes up arms, lets say a tribe in nigeria takes up arms to fight, no external force can bring total peace. The nigeria civil war was a good example, the sickness lingers.

When a country sells arms to you, they not only train you but also sell ammunitions to you.

Lol. Have you studdied how Israel got their independence independence or the 7 days war?
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by HornyTave: 8:03pm On Aug 15, 2021
seunny4lif:
Kurds never down any Russia airforce jets or Helicopter
Kurds have never go against the Russia military in Syria.

The helicopter down by Turkish military was owned by Syria military

Lol. You don't know nothing bro
Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Olaolufred(m): 8:06pm On Aug 15, 2021
Taliban sitting on the throne.

Re: US - Failing Where Russia Is Succeeding. by Gireiboy(m): 8:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
HornyTave:


The issue in the middle east is a complex one. The US and Russia federation cant do shit to a country that's determined or an ideology the people accepts.
If the people takes up arms, lets say a tribe in nigeria takes up arms to fight, no external force can bring total peace. The nigeria civil war was a good example, the sickness lingers.

When a country sells arms to you, they not only train you but also sell ammunitions to you.

Lol. Have you studdied how Israel got their independence independence or the 7 days war?
Israel got their independence, are you for real bro? or is it a joke.

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