Dtruthspeaker:


Out of point.

It's because it has to do with God


I may not disregard your thinking on other things

LordReed:

It is not evidence because you are not the god in question...

Change of post!

The issue is, I presented myself and my ability to create as evidence, unfortunately for you, you do not have the True Knowledge of determining whether I can be an evidence or not.

So you are stuck with no valid place to go.

HellVictorinho:


It's because it has to do with God

I may not disregard your thinking on other things

Admission of "Out of Pointless!"

Dtruthspeaker:


Change of post!

The issue is, I presented myself and my ability to create as evidence, unfortunately for you, you do not have the True Knowledge of determining whether I can be an evidence or not.

So you are stuck with no valid place to go.

Nonsense. I know how to drive is not evidence my wife knows how to drive. An argument can can be put forth that I could have taught her but it is not evidence it is an argument. Professor of logic indeed. You have not presented evidence stop deceiving yourself.

LordReed:

Nonsense. I know how to drive is not evidence my wife knows how to drive.

If you knew what evidence is, you would have known, and in Truth, you do know that "I know how to drive", Is Always Evidence And Proof Of Ability to Drive and a further evidence and proof of a drive which has already been executed by another person, in this case, your wife BECAUSE A CAR CANNOT DRIVE ITSELF AND SOMEBODY MUST DRIVE IT,
IS THE ISSUE

LordReed:

An argument can can be put forth that I could have taught her but it is not evidence it is an argument. Professor of logic indeed. You have not presented evidence stop deceiving yourself.

Change of Post and Out of Issue. The issue is not "How did your wife know how to drive" But "Who took the car away?"

Learn to stick to Topics and stop flying off points.

Dtruthspeaker:


If you knew what evidence is, you would have known, and in Truth, you do know that "I know how to drive", Is Always Evidence And Proof Of Ability to Drive and a further evidence and proof of a drive which has already been executed by another person, in this case, your wife BECAUSE A CAR CANNOT DRIVE ITSELF AND SOMEBODY MUST DRIVE IT,
IS THE ISSUE



Change of Post and Out of Issue. The issue is not "How did your wife know how to drive" But "Who took the car away?"

Learn to stick to Topics and stop flying off points.

Stop talking nonsense, you have provided no evidence, you just like to fool yourself.

LordReed:

Stop talking nonsense, you have provided no evidence, you just like to fool yourself.

A person Like you who does not know hydrogen and oxygen can never identify and separate them in a container containing 2H20, how much more distilling evidence from argument.

You are shipwrecked on this rock.

Dtruthspeaker:


A person Like you who does not know hydrogen and oxygen can never identify and separate them in a container containing 2H20, how much more distilling evidence from argument.

You are shipwrecked on this rock.

LoL, keep fooling yourself. You are now an expert in chemistry. LMAO!

LordReed:


LoL, keep fooling yourself. You are now an expert in chemistry. LMAO!

when you were in Secondary School did you not meet students who were good both in the sciences and in the arts?

Osei Yaw Ababio, P.N Okeke and Modern Biology are still parts of my Library.

And I was good in chemistry, I still remember the first 20 elements of the periodic table by heart, acid, base and salts, metals etc.

Damn, I had very good education!!!

Dtruthspeaker:


when you were in Secondary School did you not meet students who were good both in the sciences and in the arts?

Osei Yaw Ababio, P.N Okeke and Modern Biology are still parts of my Library.

And I was good in chemistry, I still remember the first 20 elements of the periodic table by heart, acid, base and salts, metals etc.

Damn, I had very good education!!!

Ur God does not exist, but u sure know how to rant and decieve urself.

U say he refuse to believe in ur evidence
And then say he does not know how to recognize evidence... Something is definitely wrong with ur head if u simply cant tell urself the truth

frank317:

Ur God does not exist, but u sure know how to rant and decieve urself.

You came to salvage your shipwrecked brothers ? You are already headed to the same rocks that have drowned your brothers.

I can do equally say "You do not exist" but that does not mean it is True.

frank317:

U say he refuse to believe in ur evidence
And then say he does not know how to recognize evidence...

I did not say "he refused to believe in my evidence" I said "refused to see it, as is your power."

So you see, you are the one who does not function properly.

And now you are caught on the rocks and sinking!!

Dtruthspeaker:


You came to salvage your shipwrecked brothers ? You are already headed to the same rocks that have drowned your brothers.

U wish

I can do equally say "You do not exist" but that does not mean it is True.

U are insane if u say i dont exist after interacting with u. .. Well, u have nothing to lose by saying that since i dont have a million naira to give u and u just want to win an argument.

I did not say "he refused to believe in my evidence" I said "refused to see it, as is your power."

He refused to see it... What ever that means. U are talking nonsense and he is pointing it out and say he refused to see ur point. Is this how u prove ur so called all powerful existent God?
[/quote]

frank317:

U are insane if u say i dont exist after interacting with u. ..

That same insanity is on you for I know that I am speaking with John142 who exists but Frank317 does not.

frank317:

He refused to see it... What ever that means.

That's why you should not enter into what you do not know!

frank317:

... Is this how u prove ur so called all powerful existent God?

Change of Post.

The Post is your brothers are not able to identify evidence even with their eyes open.

MISHIGAS!

HardMirror:


An Honest Liar documents the life of former magician, escape artist, and skeptical educator James Randi, in particular the investigations through which Randi publicly exposed psychics, faith healers, and con-artists.

please watch patiently and leave your review after.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-_XQJ5-pKQ

THE ONLY THING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS MAN, IS THAT HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.

After that, what do we need to know again?

HardMirror:


IF ONLY, JUST IF ONLY YOU GUYS WOULD PLEASE WATCH AND LEARN SOMETHING AT LEAST ONCE IN YOUR LIVES I AM BEGGING YOU ALL.

AFTER SUCH A WMD KILOTON INSULT, WHY SHOULD ANYONE CARE ABOUT YOUR SILLY VIDEO AGAIN- EXCEPT THEY ARE COMPLETE LOSERS-IN LIFE?

So, we have learned nothing in life, except your Oyinbo has taught us, is it?

HardMirror:

Why is this video and Randi so so important?

1. James Randi is perhaps one of the most prominent magicians in history. people had always wondered if magic was real, something supernatural. James Randi dedicated his life to teaching us that magic, the supernatural does not exist and to prove it he created the RANDI Challenge where he challenge ANYONE that thinks he has any paranormal ability of ABSOLUTELY ANY KIND to come to the show and prove that he or she has any paranormal ability and he would pay that person $1,000,000 (One Million Dollars) and since 1998 no one, NOBODY has been able to win this money, despite thousands of people taking the challenge and claiming just the way you would also come here and claim the supernatural is real.

500 YEARS AGO, THE OYINBOS SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED EVERYONE THEY COULD, WHO HAD ANY SPECIES OF "PARANORMAL ABILITY."

About this time, they discovered the Americas- whom everybody knew was there, except them.

As ARTHUR C. CLARKE said of his own people:

. ANY REVOLUTIONARY IDEA GOES THROUGH FOUR PHASES:

(1) THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I EVER HEARD!

(2) " I ALWAYS SAID IT WAS A GOOD IDEA...!"

(3) "I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST!"

(4) "ANY FOOL KNOWS THAT!!!"

After they finally accepted that the Americas existed, they began to investigate their Spiritual Knowledge, and found that it was better than theirs.

They exterminated all the Native Americans who had that Knowledge, denouncing it as "THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL!"

The final Death-Toll may have reached 100 million.

At the same time, they exterminated everyone with Paranormal Ability in Europe.

At the same time, they banned HERBAL MEDICINE as "Satanic Witchcraft," and legitimized Scientific, Alchemical Medicine as true Medicine.

The same Oyinbo leader behind that move also officially declared that JESUS CHRIST was an Oyinbo like them, even identical to his illegitimate son, CESARE BORGIA.

This was about the same time they invented the letter "J."

About this time, the Oyinbos began kidnapping and enslaving Blacks- many of whom are the real Hebrew Y'sraelite descendants.

All of these events are obviously related.

HardMirror:


2. do you really want the truth or you want to continue to live in fantasies. i am a living proof too, all these so called claims of Juju, witches, people who have powers etc are all lies. such people do not exist. it is funny some people still think there are real magicians that have real powers despite many videos being available online that would teach you how these incredible magic tricks are done. they are just tricks.

i just hope somebody would actually take time to watch, listen and learn.

it is so painful to see people deeply deceived that there is a spiritual force that affects the physical and yet once closely investigated we always find that they are just lies.

THE OYINBOS SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY INVENTED "REVERSE-PSYCHOLOGY.[/u]

This challenge is supposed to make paranormalists come rushing out to collect $1 million.

That was the greatest thing they could think of.

Why didn't JAMES RANDI say, that if anyone can show proof of Paranormal Ability, he would build a $1 million School, Hospital, Dam, Generator Plant, Factory, Foundry- things that would benefit their PEOPLE- rather than themselves?

OYINBO MENTALITY [i]CANNOT THINK BEYOND THE IDEA THAT, IF ANYONE HAD SUCH POWERS, THEY WOULD WANT TO USE THEM TO ENRICH THEMSELVES!

They cannot conceive of a people who are better than themselves.

HardMirror:


This documentary cuts across board, it would help you rethink a lot of the so called super natural you so much believe in. I know some people would argue that there are still real powers in blah blah place. see i have challenged so many people offline with such claims and at the end they always just waste my time, the problem is you really want to believe and you fall for the lies, if you start thinking critically and questioning, you just need to use your brain, you would see that these lies are not holding up. there are no proves, they are just stories and assumptions.

AN AGENT OF THE OYINBOS LIKE YOURSELF, CANNOT CONCEIVE THAT READERS COULD HAVE HAD PERSONAL, FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH PARANORMAL POWERS- AND NOT MERELY KNOW STORIES ABOUT THEM.

I know that Paranormal Powers exist, because I have had them myself. What I currently have is but a shadow of the Powers I once wielded- but a return to full power is not hard, for someone who never actually renounced them.

BUT THE OYINBOS ARE DESCENDANTS OF VERY WICKED PEOPLE- WHO ABUSED AND BLASPHEMED GOD.

Therefore, it is VERY DIFFICULT for them to find God.

Yet- NONE of them believe that their EVIL PAST means ANYTHING, when they want to contact GOD, or the Spiritual Realm.

It is claimed that CARLOS CASTANEDA was invited to conjure a SPIRIT BEING inside a Laboratory, so that they could probe it with SENSORS, and determine its properties.

I believe the report because Carlos Castaneda was really that foolish- by his own account.

The Scientists reported that the experiment had been a failure.

I am a Laboratory Assistant by profession.

What impresses a layman means nothing to me.

How did Carlos Castaneda know that the results were "negative?" Why did he assume that the Scientists would tell him the truth about their results?

What did he think the experiment was for?

Did he think that it was to improve the quality of life for the Spirit?

Did he pretend not to know that the ultimate intention of the experiment, was to find out how to kill the Spirit Being?

[b]CARLOS CASTANEDA'S BENEFACTOR, DON JUAN MATUS HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS.[/i]

Carlos Castaneda:

When I asked don Juan to comment on what was happening to me, he said,

"At this point in your dreaming, scouts are reconnoiterers sent by the inorganic realm. They are very fast, meaning that they don't stay long."

"Why do you say that they are reconnoiterers, don Juan?"

"They come in search of potential awareness. They have consciousness and purpose, although it is incomprehensible to our minds, comparable perhaps to the consciousness and purpose of trees. The inner speed of trees and inorganic beings is incomprehensible to us because it is infinitely slower than ours."

"What makes you say that, don Juan?" "Both trees and inorganic beings last longer than we do. They are made to stay put. They are immobile, yet they make everything move around them."

"Do you mean, don Juan, that inorganic beings are stationary like trees?"

"Certainly. What you see in dreaming as bright or dark sticks are their projections. What you hear as the voice of the dreaming emissary is equally their projection. And so are their scouts."

For some unfathomable reason, I was overwhelmed by these statements. I was suddenly filled with anxiety. I asked don Juan if trees also had projections like that."

"They do," he said. "Their projections are, however, even less friendly to us than those of the inorganic beings. Dreamers never seek them, unless they are in a state of profound amenity with trees, which is a very difficult state to attain. We have no friends on this earth, you know." He chuckled and added, "It's no mystery why."

"It may not be a mystery to you, don Juan, but it certainly is to me."

"We are destructive. We have antagonized every living being on this earth. That's why we have no friends."

I felt so ill at ease that I wanted to stop the conversation altogether. But a compulsive urge made me return to the subject of inorganic beings.

"What do you think I should do to follow the scouts?" I asked.

"Why in the world would you want to follow them?"

"I am conducting an objective inquiry about inorganic beings."

"You're pulling my leg, aren't you? I thought you were unmovable on your stand that inorganic beings don't exist."

His scoffing tone and cackling laughter told me what his thoughts and feelings about my objective inquiry were.

"I've changed my mind, don Juan. Now I want to explore all those possibilities."

"Remember, the realm of inorganic beings was the old sorcerers' field. To get there, they tenaciously fixed their dreaming attention on the items of their dreams. In that fashion, they were able to isolate the scouts. And when they had the scouts in focus, they shouted their intent to follow them. The instant the old sorcerers voiced that intent, off they went, pulled by that foreign energy."

"Is it that simple, don Juan?" He did not answer. He just laughed at me as if daring me to do it.

THERE ARE NO CREATURES ON EARTH THAT ARE FRIENDS WITH THE HUMAN RACE.WE HAVE BEEN WICKED TO EVERY OTHER SPECIES IN THE WORLD.

Much of the cruelty was perpetrated by the Oyinbo Race. The heads of exotic beasts were a standard decoration of rich Oyinbos' walls.

They killed them for SPORT.

Some of these species NO LONGER EXIST- because the Oyinbos killed them- just to show that they could.

Why, then, would a Spirit Being manifest itself in an Oyinbo Laboratory- when it isn't stupid?

Those who show the Oyinbos that Spiritual Powers exist, may get a million dollars.

After that $1 billion will surely be earmarked, to research how that power works, how to make it their exclusive property.

The original subjects will be kidnapped, interrogated, killed, and dissected.

Their organs will be extracted, and transplanted into the body of some billionaire, who wants superpowers, like a Comic Book hero.

The RANDI PRIZE shows how stupid they think we all are.

Only an idiot can spend 20 years looking for paranormal powers, and fond none.

To kidnap and murder people who won the prize, or failed to win it would be too obvious.

It would be people who never got that far, who would be so attacked.

THE OYINBOS HAVE RELIGIONS THAT HAVE PARANORMAL ABILITIES.

WICCA, and SCIENTOLOGY, for instance.

In the case of SCIENTOLOGY, which I know well, it is impossible to be promoted without showing evidence of Paranormal Ability. This promotion involves PAYING THE ORGANIZATION to prove that one has the abilities one claims, or not.

That is to say, THERE IS ZERO MOTIVE to pay for accreditation in Abilities one does not have. We are talking about thousands of dollars per head, here.

The problem is: THEY CANNOT MANIFEST THEIR ABILITIES ON-DEMAND.

The quick explanation is: GOD GAVE THEM TO USE IN HIS SERVICE. If one does not serve God, the Abilities manifest- once- then, maybe never again.

WICCANS would probably pay James Randi $1 million, to go away, and not bother them! They have nothing to prove.

They WANT the public to be ignorant.

ECKANKAR is a ripoff of SCIENTOLOGY- but they can still do things.

Then there is FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL Christianity.

JAMES RANDI knows all about the miraculous Healings that are corroborated by medical examination- but pretends not to know about them.

He is not an honest liar.

frank317:


Ur God does not exist, but u sure know how to rant and decieve urself.

U say he refuse to believe in ur evidence
And then say he does not know how to recognize evidence... Something is definitely wrong with ur head if u simply cant tell urself the truth

WHAT EVIDENCE IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? THIS GUY HAS NOT PRESENTED A SINGLE EVIDENCE SINCE. HE IS JUST RANTING

Dtruthspeaker:


Admission of "Out of Pointless!"

It doesn't matter since you are the one saying it.

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



THE ONLY THING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS MAN, IS THAT HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.

After that, what do we need to know again?



AFTER SUCH A WMD KILOTON INSULT, WHY SHOULD ANYONE CARE ABOUT YOUR SILLY VIDEO AGAIN- EXCEPT THEY ARE COMPLETE LOSERS-IN LIFE?

So, we have learned nothing in life, except your Oyinbo has taught us, is it?



500 YEARS AGO, THE OYINBOS SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED EVERYONE THEY COULD, WHO HAD ANY SPECIES OF "PARANORMAL ABILITY."

About this time, they discovered the Americas- whom everybody knew was there, except them.

As ARTHUR C. CLARKE said of his own people:

. ANY REVOLUTIONARY IDEA GOES THROUGH FOUR PHASES:

(1) THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I EVER HEARD!

(2) " I ALWAYS SAID IT WAS A GOOD IDEA...!"

(3) "I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST!"

(4) "ANY FOOL KNOWS THAT!!!"

After they finally accepted that the Americas existed, they began to investigate their Spiritual Knowledge, and found that it was better than theirs.

They exterminated all the Native Americans who had that Knowledge, denouncing it as "THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL!"

The final Death-Toll may have reached 100 million.

At the same time, they exterminated everyone with Paranormal Ability in Europe.

At the same time, they banned HERBAL MEDICINE as "Satanic Witchcraft," and legitimized Scientific, Alchemical Medicine as true Medicine.

The same Oyinbo leader behind that move also officially declared that JESUS CHRIST was an Oyinbo like them, even identical to his illegitimate son, CESARE BORGIA.

This was about the same time they invented the letter "J."

About this time, the Oyinbos began kidnapping and enslaving Blacks- many of whom are the real Hebrew Y'sraelite descendants.

All of these events are obviously related.



THE OYINBOS SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY INVENTED "REVERSE-PSYCHOLOGY.[/u]

This challenge is supposed to make paranormalists come rushing out to collect $1 million.

That was the greatest thing they could think of.

Why didn't JAMES RANDI say, that if anyone can show proof of Paranormal Ability, he would build a $1 million School, Hospital, Dam, Generator Plant, Factory, Foundry- things that would benefit their PEOPLE- rather than themselves?

OYINBO MENTALITY [i]CANNOT THINK BEYOND THE IDEA THAT, IF ANYONE HAD SUCH POWERS, THEY WOULD WANT TO USE THEM TO ENRICH THEMSELVES!

They cannot conceive of a people who are better than themselves.



AN AGENT OF THE OYINBOS LIKE YOURSELF, CANNOT CONCEIVE THAT READERS COULD HAVE HAD PERSONAL, FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH PARANORMAL POWERS- AND NOT MERELY KNOW STORIES ABOUT THEM.

I know that Paranormal Powers exist, because I have had them myself. What I currently have is but a shadow of the Powers I once wielded- but a return to full power is not hard, for someone who never actually renounced them.

BUT THE OYINBOS ARE DESCENDANTS OF VERY WICKED PEOPLE- WHO ABUSED AND BLASPHEMED GOD.

Therefore, it is VERY DIFFICULT for them to find God.

Yet- NONE of them believe that their EVIL PAST means ANYTHING, when they want to contact GOD, or the Spiritual Realm.

It is claimed that CARLOS CASTANEDA was invited to conjure a SPIRIT BEING inside a Laboratory, so that they could probe it with SENSORS, and determine its properties.

I believe the report because Carlos Castaneda was really that foolish- by his own account.

The Scientists reported that the experiment had been a failure.

I am a Laboratory Assistant by profession.

What impresses a layman means nothing to me.

How did Carlos Castaneda know that the results were "negative?" Why did he assume that the Scientists would tell him the truth about their results?

What did he think the experiment was for?

Did he think that it was to improve the quality of life for the Spirit?

Did he pretend not to know that the ultimate intention of the experiment, was to find out how to kill the Spirit Being?

CARLOS CASTANEDA'S BENEFACTOR, DON JUAN MATUS HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS.[/i]



[b]THERE ARE NO CREATURES ON EARTH THAT ARE FRIENDS WITH THE HUMAN RACE.WE HAVE BEEN WICKED TO EVERY OTHER SPECIES IN THE WORLD.

Much of the cruelty was perpetrated by the Oyinbo Race. The heads of exotic beasts were a standard decoration of rich Oyinbos' walls.

They killed them for SPORT.

Some of these species NO LONGER EXIST- because the Oyinbos killed them- just to show that they could.

Why, then, would a Spirit Being manifest itself in an Oyinbo Laboratory- when it isn't stupid?

Those who show the Oyinbos that Spiritual Powers exist, may get a million dollars.

After that $1 billion will surely be earmarked, to research how that power works, how to make it their exclusive property.

The original subjects will be kidnapped, interrogated, killed, and dissected.

Their organs will be extracted, and transplanted into the body of some billionaire, who wants superpowers, like a Comic Book hero.

The RANDI PRIZE shows how stupid they think we all are.

Only an idiot can spend 20 years looking for paranormal powers, and fond none.

To kidnap and murder people who won the prize, or failed to win it would be too obvious.

It would be people who never got that far, who would be so attacked.

THE OYINBOS HAVE RELIGIONS THAT HAVE PARANORMAL ABILITIES.

WICCA, and SCIENTOLOGY, for instance.

In the case of SCIENTOLOGY, which I know well, it is impossible to be promoted without showing evidence of Paranormal Ability. This promotion involves PAYING THE ORGANIZATION to prove that one has the abilities one claims, or not.

That is to say, THERE IS ZERO MOTIVE to pay for accreditation in Abilities one does not have. We are talking about thousands of dollars per head, here.

The problem is: THEY CANNOT MANIFEST THEIR ABILITIES ON-DEMAND.

The quick explanation is: GOD GAVE THEM TO USE IN HIS SERVICE. If one does not serve God, the Abilities manifest- once- then, maybe never again.

WICCANS would probably pay James Randi $1 million, to go away, and not bother them! They have nothing to prove.

They WANT the public to be ignorant.

ECKANKAR is a ripoff of SCIENTOLOGY- but they can still do things.

Then there is FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL Christianity.

JAMES RANDI knows all about the miraculous Healings that are corroborated by medical examination- but pretends not to know about them.

He is not an honest liar.

Define paranormal ability
Define God

HardMirror:
WHAT EVIDENCE IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? THIS GUY HAS NOT PRESENTED A SINGLE EVIDENCE SINCE. HE IS JUST RANTING

Actually, the evidence of HardMirror's existence is HardMirror's introduction of himself

If you never opened a Nairaland account with HardMirror as your name,then HardMirror never existed.




Nobody can determine your own proof of your own existence except you allow such person to take a video of you while you identify yourself as HardMirror or you identify yourself as HardMirror to the person on Nairaland.




So,these debates are meaningless since we keep asking those guys to give an evidence that they can never provide because they don't even have access to any God that will allow them to take a video while the God exists so that we can watch the God.


There's no access to what doesn't exist.



The problem is even the definition of God.
The definition has nothing to do with reality or what is real.

HellVictorinho:


Actually, the evidence of HardMirror's existence is HardMirror's introduction of himself

If you never opened a Nairaland account with HardMirror as your name,then HardMirror never existed.




Nobody can determine your own proof of your own existence except you allow such person to take a video of you while you identify yourself as HardMirror or you identify yourself as HardMirror to the person on Nairaland.




So,these debates are meaningless since we keep asking those guys to give an evidence that they can never provide because they don't even have access to any God that will allow them to take a video while the God exists so that we can watch the God.


There's no access to what doesn't exist.



The problem is even the definition of God.
The definition has nothing to do with reality or what is real.

sir, you just said it all. the issue of the definition of God is actually the root problem

Dtruthspeaker:


That same insanity is on you for I know that I am speaking with John142 who exists but Frank317 does not.

The Post is your brothers are not able to identify evidence even with their eyes open.

He is not able to identify evidence...
He refused to see evidence....

I think u are confused.

frank317:

He is not able to identify evidence...
He refused to see evidence....

I think u are confused.

You are a meddlesome interloper, since you are not a Partee, in the trans action so you must be confused.

This is where you learn The Law of "Locus Standii"

You no locus to speak on the matter and since you have no locus, you must obtain confusion.

HellVictorinho:


It doesn't matter since you are the one saying it.

I must be the one who says it because I am your opposing player who must watch out for when the ball goes out of the game so that I can claim my point.

HardMirror:
WHAT EVIDENCE IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? THIS GUY HAS NOT PRESENTED A SINGLE EVIDENCE SINCE. HE IS JUST RANTING

Just as none of you can differentiate the Hydrogen from the Oxygen in 2H2O, so also can you not spot that which is "Evidence".

So just as you are an illiterate in identifying the Hydrogen from the Oxygen in 2H2O, so also are you an illiterate in identifying that which is Evidence, which makes you all rant and stamp thy feet, as a child in tantrums, all the day long

Dtruthspeaker:


I must be the one who says it because I am your opposing player who must watch out for when the ball goes out of the game so that I can claim my point.

Your claim is false.

SHALOM!

HellVictorinho:


Define paranormal ability
Define God

I SHOULD NOT NEED TO DEFINE PARANORMAL ABILITY, NOR GOD TO YOU, WHO ARE DENYING THEIR EXISTENCE.

Are you not saying that you do not know what you are talking about?

THE ABOVE-AVERAGE PERSON USES LESS THAN 10% OF THEIR MIND, CONSCIOUSLY.

Therefore, the Paranormal begins with TOTAL RECALL.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25)

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.

"GOD" IS THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS, AND THE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF ALL LIFE.

.   GENESIS 3:1-19.

NOW the Serpent
was more subtil
than any Beast
of the Field which
The LORD God
had made.
And he said unto
the Woman,

"Yea, hath God Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT
OF EVERY TREE
OF THE GARDEN?' "

2. And the Woman said
unto the Serpent,

"We may eat
of the Fruit of the Trees
of the Garden:
3. But of the Fruit of the Tree
which is in the midst
of the Garden,
God hath Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT OF IT,
NEITHER SHALL YE TOUCH IT,
LEST YE DIE.' "

4. And the Serpent said
unto the Woman,

"Ye shall not surely die:
5. "For God doth know
that in the day
ye eat thereof,
then your eyes
shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods,
knowing Good and Evil."

6. And when the Woman saw
that the Tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes,
and a Tree to be desired
to make one wise,
she took of the Fruit thereof,
and did eat,
and gave also
unto her husband with her;
and he did eat.
7. And the eyes of them both
were opened,
and they knew
that they were naked;
and they sewed fig leaves together,
and made themselves aprons.
8. And they heard
The Voice of The LORD God
Walking in the Garden
in the cool of the day:
and Adam and his wife
hid themselves
from The Presence
of The LORD God
amongst the Trees
of the Garden. that
9. And The LORD God
Called unto Adam,
and Said unto him,

"Where art thou?"

10. And he said,

"I heard Thy Voice in the Garden,
and I was afraid,
because I was naked;
and I hid myself."

11. And He Said,

"Who told thee
that thou wast naked?
Hast thou eaten of the tree,
whereof I Commanded thee
that thou shouldest not eat?"

12. And the Man said,

"The Woman whom Thou
gavest to be with me,
she gave me of the tree,
and I did eat."

13. And The LORD God
Said unto the Woman,

"What is this
that thou hast done?"

And the Woman said,

"The Serpent beguiled me,
and I did eat."

14. And The LORD God Said
unto the Serpent,

"Because thou
hast done this,
thou art Cursed
above all Cattle,
and above every
Beast of the Field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go,
and dust shalt thou eat
all the days of thy life:
15. "And I will put Enmity
between thee and the Woman,
and between thy seed
and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel."

16. Unto the Woman He Said,

"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow
and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt
bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be
to thy Husband,
and he shall rule over thee."

17. And unto Adam He Said,

"Because thou hast hearkened
unto the voice of thy wife,
and hast eaten of the Tree,
of which I Commanded thee,
Saying,

'THOU SHALT NOT
EAT OF IT:'

Cursed is the Ground for thy sake;
in sorrow shalt thou eat of It
all the days of thy life;
18. "Thorns also and thistles
shall it bring forth to thee;
and thou shalt eat
The Herb of the Field;
19. "In the sweat of thy face
shalt thou eat bread,
till thou return unto the Ground;
for out of it wast thou taken:
for dust thou art,
and unto dust shalt thou return."

YAHWEH GOD IS NOT OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT, NOR OMNIBENEVOLENT: GENESIS 1-4 CATEGORICALLY DISPROVES THAT GOD HAS THOSE ATTRIBUTES.

ATHEISTS generally pretend otherwise, in order to make God look ridiculous.

. GENESIS 17:1-14.

AND when Abram was
ninety years old and nine,
The LORD appeared to Abram,
and Said unto him,

"I am The Almighty God;
walk before Me,
and be thou perfect.
2. "And I will make
My Covenant
between Me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly."

3. And Abram fell on his face:
and God Talked with him,
Saying,

4. "As for Me,
behold, My Covenant
is with thee,
and thou shalt be
a Father of many Nations.
5. "Neither shall thy name
any more be called "Abram,"
but thy name shall be "Abraham;"
for a father of many nations
have I made thee.
6. "And I will make thee
Exceeding Fruitful,
and I will make
nations of thee,
and kings shall
come out of thee.
7. "And I will establish
My Covenant
between Me and thee
and thy seed after thee
in their Generations
for an Everlasting Covenant,
to be a God unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
8. "And I will give unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein
thou art a stranger,
all the land of Canaan,
for an Everlasting Possession;
and I will be their God."

9. And God Said
unto Abraham,

"Thou shalt keep
My Covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee
in their Generations.
10. "This is My Covenant,
Which ye shall keep,
between Me and you
and thy seed after thee;

'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU
SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.'

11. "And ye shall circumcise
the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be
a Token of The Covenant
betwixt me and you.
12. "And he that is
eight days old
shall be circumcised
among you,
every man child
in your Generations,
he that is born in the house,
or bought with money
of any stranger,
which is not of thy seed.
13. "He that is born
in thy house,
and he that is bought
with thy money,
must needs be circumcised:
and My Covenant
shall be in your flesh
for an Everlasting Covenant.
14. "And the uncircumcised
man child
whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised,
that soul shall be cut off
from his people;
he hath broken My Covenant."

GOD HAS A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF AVRAHAM, ISAAC, AND YACUB- TO BE GOD TO THEM FOR EVER.

Therefore God required the Children of Y'srael to cultivate His Covenant, while leaving other nations to their own devices.

Anyone who wishes to deal with God must go through this Covenant.

If It is kept faithfully, the state of HOLINESS will be achieved, and THE TEN TALENTS will sequentially activate.

THE TENTH TALENT allows free access to, and Communication with, God and His Realm. Direct Proof of God's Existence.

. MATTHEW 11:1-6.

AND it came to pass,
when Jesus had made an end
of Commanding his Twelve Disciples,
he departed thence
to teach and to preach in their cities.
2. Now when John had heard
in the prison the Works of Christ,
he sent two of his Disciples,
3. And said unto him,

"Art thou he that should come,
or do we look for another?"

4. Jesus answered
and said unto them,

"Go and shew John again
those things which ye do
hear and see:

5. 'THE BLIND RECEIVE THEIR SIGHT,
AND THE LAME WALK,
THE LEPERS ARE CLEANSED,
AND THE DEAF HEAR,
THE DEAD ARE RAISED UP,
AND THE POOR HAVE THE GOSPEL
PREACHED TO THEM.
6. 'AND BLESSED IS HE,
WHOSOEVER SHALL NOT BE
OFFENDED IN ME.' "

. MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the Blind and Dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,

"IS NOT THIS
THE SON OF DAVID?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus
knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first
bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against
The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance
of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'

37. "For by thy Words
thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered,
saying,

"Master,
we would see
a Sign from thee."

39. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"An Evil and
Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign
be given to it,
but The Sign of
the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was
three days and three nights
in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man
be three days
and three nights
in the heart of the Earth.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

THOSE WHO HAVE ASCRIBED THE DIVINE WORKS OF LORD YESHUA TO EVIL CAN NEVER BE SAVED.

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. MARK 11:12-26.

12. And on the morrow,
when they had
come from Bethany,
he was hungry:
13. And seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find
any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing
but leaves;
for the time
for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And his Disciples heard (it).
15. And they come to Jerusalem:
and Jesus went into The Temple,
and began to cast out
them that sold and bought
in The Temple,
and overthrew
the tables of the moneychangers,
and the seats of them
that sold doves;
16. And would not suffer
that any man should carry
any vessel through the Temple.
17. And he Taught,
saying unto them,

"Is it not written,

'MY HOUSE SHALL BE
CALLED OF ALL NATIONS
THE HOUSE OF PRAYER?
BUT YE HAVE MADE IT
A DEN OF THIEVES.' "

18. And the Scribes
and Chief Priests
heard it,
and sought how
they might destroy him:
for they feared him,
because all the people
was astonished at his Doctrine.
19. And when even was come,
he went out of the city.

20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus Answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,

"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU
CAST INTO THE SEA;'

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'

24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses."

THE FIRST THING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT GOD, IS THAT HE CREATED ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.

That is incontrovertible.

It therefore follows that The Laws of This and Other Universes (of which there are seven,) are dictated by Him, and Him alone.

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

TO WALK WITH GOD, YOU MUST AGREE WITH HIM.

James Randi does not.

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. JOHN 14:1-26.

"LET not your heart
be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
there are Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
3. "And if I go
and prepare a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,

"Lord, we know not
whither thou goest;
and how can we
know The Way?"

6. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I am The Way,
The Truth,
and The Life:
no man cometh
unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have known
my Father also:
and from henceforth
ye know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us the Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus Saith unto him,

"Have I been
so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not
known me, Philip?
He that hath seen me
hath seen The Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me?
The Words that I Speak
unto you I Speak not
of myself:
but The Father
that dwelleth in me,
He doeth the Works.
11. "Believe me that I am
in The Father,
and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;
AND GREATER WORKS
THAN THESE SHALL HE DO;
BECAUSE I GO
UNTO MY FATHER.'

13. "And whatsoever ye shall
ask in my Name,
that will I do,
that The Father may be
Glorified in The Son.
14. "If ye shall ask
any thing in my Name,
I will do it.
15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you
another Comforter,
that He may abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World cannot receive,
because It seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World
seeth me no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. "At that Day
ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me,
and I in you.
21. "He that hath
my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself
unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. "These things
have I Spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father will send
in my Name,
He shall Teah you
all things,
and bring all things
to your Remembrance,
whatsoever I have Said
unto you."

AGREEMENT WITH LORD YESHUA BRINGS HIM, HIS FATHER, AND HIS SPIRIT (SENTIENT MOTIVATING POWER).

. JOHN 15:1-16.

"I AM The True Vine,
and my Father is The Husbandman.
2. "Every branch in me
that beareth not Fruit
He taketh away:
and every branch
that beareth Fruit,
He purgeth it,
that it may bring forth
more Fruit.
3. "Now ye are clean
through the Word
Which I have Spoken
unto you.
4. "Abide in me,
and I in you.
As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye,
except ye abide in me.
5. "I am the Vine,
ye are the Branches:

'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME
AND I IN HIM,
THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH
MUCH FRUIT:'

for without me
ye can do Nothing.
6. "If a man abide not in me,
he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast them into the Fire,
and they are burned.
7. "If ye abide in me,
and my Words abide in you,
ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done unto you.
8. "Herein is
my Father Glorified,

'THAT YE BEAR
MUCH FRUIT.'

so shall ye be my Disciples.
9. "As The Father
hath Loved me,
so have I Loved you:
continue ye in my Love.
10. "If ye keep my Commandments,
ye shall abide in my Love;
even as I have kept
my Father's Commandments,
and abide in His Love.
11. "These things have I
Spoken unto you,
that my Joy
might remain in you,
and that your joy
might be full.
12. "This is my Commandment,

'THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER,
AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.'

13. "Greater love
hath no man than this,

'THAT A MAN
LAY DOWN HIS LIFE
FOR HIS FRIENDS.'

14. "Ye are my Friends,
if ye do whatsoever
I Command you.
15. "Henceforth I call you
not "Servants;"
for the servant knoweth not
what his lord doeth:
but I have called you "Friends;"
for all things that I have
heard of my Father
I have made known unto you.
16. "Ye have not chosen me,
but I have chosen you,
and ordained you,
that ye should go
and bring forth Fruit,
and that your Fruit
should remain:
that whatsoever ye shall ask
of The Father in my Name,
He may give it you."

GOD WANTS TO USE YOU TO MODIFY AND CONTROL HIS CREATION.

By Answering your Prayers and fulfilling YOUR Commands/Requests to CREATE/ANNIHILATE, TRANSFORM, HARMONIZE, or FORCE Matter, Energy, Space, Time, and Awareness/Life.

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SHALOM!



I SHOULD NOT NEED TO DEFINE PARANORMAL ABILITY, NOR GOD TO YOU, WHO ARE DENYING THEIR EXISTENCE.

Are you not saying that you do not know what you are talking about?

THE ABOVE-AVERAGE PERSON USES LESS THAN 10% OF THEIR MIND, CONSCIOUSLY.

Therefore, the Paranormal begins with TOTAL RECALL.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25)

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.

"GOD" IS THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS, AND THE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF ALL LIFE.

.   GENESIS 3:1-19.

NOW the Serpent
was more subtil
than any Beast
of the Field which
The LORD God
had made.
And he said unto
the Woman,

"Yea, hath God Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT
OF EVERY TREE
OF THE GARDEN?' "

2. And the Woman said
unto the Serpent,

"We may eat
of the Fruit of the Trees
of the Garden:
3. But of the Fruit of the Tree
which is in the midst
of the Garden,
God hath Said,

'YE SHALL NOT EAT OF IT,
NEITHER SHALL YE TOUCH IT,
LEST YE DIE.' "

4. And the Serpent said
unto the Woman,

"Ye shall not surely die:
5. "For God doth know
that in the day
ye eat thereof,
then your eyes
shall be opened,
and ye shall be as gods,
knowing Good and Evil."

6. And when the Woman saw
that the Tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes,
and a Tree to be desired
to make one wise,
she took of the Fruit thereof,
and did eat,
and gave also
unto her husband with her;
and he did eat.
7. And the eyes of them both
were opened,
and they knew
that they were naked;
and they sewed fig leaves together,
and made themselves aprons.
8. And they heard
The Voice of The LORD God
Walking in the Garden
in the cool of the day:
and Adam and his wife
hid themselves
from The Presence
of The LORD God
amongst the Trees
of the Garden. that
9. And The LORD God
Called unto Adam,
and Said unto him,

"Where art thou?"

10. And he said,

"I heard Thy Voice in the Garden,
and I was afraid,
because I was naked;
and I hid myself."

11. And He Said,

"Who told thee
that thou wast naked?
Hast thou eaten of the tree,
whereof I Commanded thee
that thou shouldest not eat?"

12. And the Man said,

"The Woman whom Thou
gavest to be with me,
she gave me of the tree,
and I did eat."

13. And The LORD God
Said unto the Woman,

"What is this
that thou hast done?"

And the Woman said,

"The Serpent beguiled me,
and I did eat."

14. And The LORD God Said
unto the Serpent,

"Because thou
hast done this,
thou art Cursed
above all Cattle,
and above every
Beast of the Field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go,
and dust shalt thou eat
all the days of thy life:
15. "And I will put Enmity
between thee and the Woman,
and between thy seed
and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel."

16. Unto the Woman He Said,

"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow
and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt
bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be
to thy Husband,
and he shall rule over thee."

17. And unto Adam He Said,

"Because thou hast hearkened
unto the voice of thy wife,
and hast eaten of the Tree,
of which I Commanded thee,
Saying,

'THOU SHALT NOT
EAT OF IT:'

Cursed is the Ground for thy sake;
in sorrow shalt thou eat of It
all the days of thy life;
18. "Thorns also and thistles
shall it bring forth to thee;
and thou shalt eat
The Herb of the Field;
19. "In the sweat of thy face
shalt thou eat bread,
till thou return unto the Ground;
for out of it wast thou taken:
for dust thou art,
and unto dust shalt thou return."

YAHWEH GOD IS NOT OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT, NOR OMNIBENEVOLENT: GENESIS 1-4 CATEGORICALLY DISPROVES THAT GOD HAS THOSE ATTRIBUTES.

ATHEISTS generally pretend otherwise, in order to make God look ridiculous.

. GENESIS 17:1-14.

AND when Abram was
ninety years old and nine,
The LORD appeared to Abram,
and Said unto him,

"I am The Almighty God;
walk before Me,
and be thou perfect.
2. "And I will make
My Covenant
between Me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly."

3. And Abram fell on his face:
and God Talked with him,
Saying,

4. "As for Me,
behold, My Covenant
is with thee,
and thou shalt be
a Father of many Nations.
5. "Neither shall thy name
any more be called "Abram,"
but thy name shall be "Abraham;"
for a father of many nations
have I made thee.
6. "And I will make thee
Exceeding Fruitful,
and I will make
nations of thee,
and kings shall
come out of thee.
7. "And I will establish
My Covenant
between Me and thee
and thy seed after thee
in their Generations
for an Everlasting Covenant,
to be a God unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
8. "And I will give unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein
thou art a stranger,
all the land of Canaan,
for an Everlasting Possession;
and I will be their God."

9. And God Said
unto Abraham,

"Thou shalt keep
My Covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee
in their Generations.
10. "This is My Covenant,
Which ye shall keep,
between Me and you
and thy seed after thee;

'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU
SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.'

11. "And ye shall circumcise
the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be
a Token of The Covenant
betwixt me and you.
12. "And he that is
eight days old
shall be circumcised
among you,
every man child
in your Generations,
he that is born in the house,
or bought with money
of any stranger,
which is not of thy seed.
13. "He that is born
in thy house,
and he that is bought
with thy money,
must needs be circumcised:
and My Covenant
shall be in your flesh
for an Everlasting Covenant.
14. "And the uncircumcised
man child
whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised,
that soul shall be cut off
from his people;
he hath broken My Covenant."

GOD HAS A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF AVRAHAM, ISAAC, AND YACUB- TO BE GOD TO THEM FOR EVER.

Therefore God required the Children of Y'srael to cultivate His Covenant, while leaving other nations to their own devices.

Anyone who wishes to deal with God must go through this Covenant.

If It is kept faithfully, the state of HOLINESS will be achieved, and THE TEN TALENTS will sequentially activate.

THE TENTH TALENT allows free access to, and Communication with, God and His Realm. Direct Proof of God's Existence.

. MATTHEW 11:1-6.

AND it came to pass,
when Jesus had made an end
of Commanding his Twelve Disciples,
he departed thence
to teach and to preach in their cities.
2. Now when John had heard
in the prison the Works of Christ,
he sent two of his Disciples,
3. And said unto him,

"Art thou he that should come,
or do we look for another?"

4. Jesus answered
and said unto them,

"Go and shew John again
those things which ye do
hear and see:

5. 'THE BLIND RECEIVE THEIR SIGHT,
AND THE LAME WALK,
THE LEPERS ARE CLEANSED,
AND THE DEAF HEAR,
THE DEAD ARE RAISED UP,
AND THE POOR HAVE THE GOSPEL
PREACHED TO THEM.
6. 'AND BLESSED IS HE,
WHOSOEVER SHALL NOT BE
OFFENDED IN ME.' "

. MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the Blind and Dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,

"IS NOT THIS
THE SON OF DAVID?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus
knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first
bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against
The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance
of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'

37. "For by thy Words
thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered,
saying,

"Master,
we would see
a Sign from thee."

39. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"An Evil and
Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign
be given to it,
but The Sign of
the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was
three days and three nights
in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man
be three days
and three nights
in the heart of the Earth.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

THOSE WHO HAVE ASCRIBED THE DIVINE WORKS OF LORD YESHUA TO EVIL CAN NEVER BE SAVED.



THE FIRST THING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT GOD, IS THAT HE CREATED ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.

That is incontrovertible.

It therefore follows that The Laws of This and Other Universes (of which there are seven,) are dictated by Him, and Him alone.

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

TO WALK WITH GOD, YOU MUST AGREE WITH HIM.

James Randi does not.



AGREEMENT WITH LORD YESHUA BRINGS HIM, HIS FATHER, AND HIS SPIRIT (SENTIENT MOTIVATING POWER).

. JOHN 15:1-16.

"I AM The True Vine,
and my Father is The Husbandman.
2. "Every branch in me
that beareth not Fruit
He taketh away:
and every branch
that beareth Fruit,
He purgeth it,
that it may bring forth
more Fruit.
3. "Now ye are clean
through the Word
Which I have Spoken
unto you.
4. "Abide in me,
and I in you.
As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye,
except ye abide in me.
5. "I am the Vine,
ye are the Branches:

'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME
AND I IN HIM,
THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH
MUCH FRUIT:'

for without me
ye can do Nothing.
6. "If a man abide not in me,
he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast them into the Fire,
and they are burned.
7. "If ye abide in me,
and my Words abide in you,
ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done unto you.
8. "Herein is
my Father Glorified,

'THAT YE BEAR
MUCH FRUIT.'

so shall ye be my Disciples.
9. "As The Father
hath Loved me,
so have I Loved you:
continue ye in my Love.
10. "If ye keep my Commandments,
ye shall abide in my Love;
even as I have kept
my Father's Commandments,
and abide in His Love.
11. "These things have I
Spoken unto you,
that my Joy
might remain in you,
and that your joy
might be full.
12. "This is my Commandment,

'THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER,
AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.'

13. "Greater love
hath no man than this,

'THAT A MAN
LAY DOWN HIS LIFE
FOR HIS FRIENDS.'

14. "Ye are my Friends,
if ye do whatsoever
I Command you.
15. "Henceforth I call you
not "Servants;"
for the servant knoweth not
what his lord doeth:
but I have called you "Friends;"
for all things that I have
heard of my Father
I have made known unto you.
16. "Ye have not chosen me,
but I have chosen you,
and ordained you,
that ye should go
and bring forth Fruit,
and that your Fruit
should remain:
that whatsoever ye shall ask
of The Father in my Name,
He may give it you."

GOD WANTS TO USE YOU TO MODIFY AND CONTROL HIS CREATION.

By Answering your Prayers and fulfilling YOUR Commands/Requests to CREATE/ANNIHILATE, TRANSFORM, HARMONIZE, or FORCE Matter, Energy, Space, Time, and Awareness/Life.

I don't think there's anything like everything that exists neither do I think there's no thing without a beginning


I think there are things without a beginning.
In fact, there's no limit to the things without a beginning and these things can neither be created nor destroyed


These things form different combinations.


Living things are combinations that accidentally manifest consciousness.



Do you know anyone with paranormal abilities?

Dtruthspeaker:
The death we know and call "and he died"

So, I assume you're trying to push a non existing point that Enoch didnt at all die a physical death?
Is that Yes, that Enoch you are saying didnt die a physical death?
Or its No, and you agree that Enoch did die a physical death?

Dtruthspeaker:
Certainly not another place on earth for the earth is full of evil.

Methuselah?
About the name Methuselah, are you familiar with the name? Yes or No?
Are you familiar with the 'When he dies, judgment' or 'When he is dead, it shall be sent' interpretation meaning of the name? Yes or No?

It certainly is another place on earth for as you rightly confirmed the earth was brimming full of evil, so God took Enoch out before the judgment that was to 120 years later to come.

Dtruthspeaker:
So it could be heaven itself or any of the other territories of God which we know not.

John 3:9-13
'9Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be possible?”
10Jesus replied, “You are the [great and well-known] teacher of Israel, and yet you do not know nor understand these things [from Scripture]?
11I assure you and most solemnly say to you, we speak only of what we [absolutely] know and testify about what we have [actually] seen [as eyewitnesses]; and [still] you [reject our evidence and] do not accept our testimony.
12If I told you earthly things [that is, things that happen right here on earth] and you do not believe, how will you believe and trust Me if I tell you heavenly things?
13No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]'

Based on the above verses, it could not be heaven itself nor any of the other territories of God which we know or not know of. Enoch had no state or quality of being divine, and so was not immortal

Dtruthspeaker:
But surely, they are in one of God's Territories other than earth.

Enoch died, his body returned to earth, his spirit returned back to God, while his soul is currently resting in Adam's ABRAHAM'S bosom aka Paradise, awaiting Judgement Day, just as like every human being awaits that day.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you are saying that Christ Said "no man has died" I agree with you, for it is A Creator Who always determines what death is, as I am telling Hardmirror and LordReed on the issue of life after death.

What we call death, our Creator tells us that it is a "sleeping", which is why all men shall rise up on that day for the proper death and Life eternal.

Matthew 10:28
'“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul;
rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”'

Luke 12:4-5, 13-21
'4"I tell you, my friends, don't be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5But I will warn you whom you should fear.
Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear him.
13One of the multitude said to him, "Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me."
14But he said to him, "Man, who made me a judge or an arbitrator over you?"
15He said to them, "Beware! Keep yourselves from covetousness, for a man's life doesn't consist of the abundance of the things which he possesses."
16He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The ground of a certain rich man brought forth abundantly.
17He reasoned within himself, saying, 'What will I do, because I don't have room to store my crops?'
18He said, 'This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods.
19I will tell my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry."'
20"But God said to him, 'You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?'
21So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."

The reason why our Creator tells us that 'death' is a 'sleeping' is because a sleeping person is unconscious and is not aware of all what is happening around him or her, so it is with death, once a person crosses over to the land of dead, such dead person, is not aware of all what is happening around in the land of the living on earth, so effect such dead person is said to be 'sleeping'

The body dies, goes back to being dust, the spirit returns back to its Owner, with an intact record of the person's entire life, no matter how small or big it might be, while the soul, goes to the land of dead, which has two sections separated by a wide gulf or chasm. If you want me to elaborate more on this, please feel free and ask. Mind you take cognisance of the above verses, to see that its the soul, that is precious to everyone. God wants to have your soul saved from damnation and destruction, however Satan is working towards achieving the contrary

PS: Edited the out of excitement mistake of calling ABRAHAM'S bosom, Adam's bosom
cc: oaroloye

Image123:
There is no Bible passage that says that Enoch died. Hebrews very specifically says he did not die, there is no contradiction there.
Gen 5:24  And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. 
Heb 11:5  By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 
(GNB)  It was faith that kept Enoch from dying. Instead, he was taken up to God, and nobody could find him, because God had taken him up. The scripture says that before Enoch was taken up, he had pleased God.
(BBE)  By faith Enoch was taken up to heaven so that he did not see death; he was seen no longer, for God took him away: for before he was taken, witness had been given that he was well-pleasing to God:
(CEV)  Enoch had faith and did not die. He pleased God, and God took him up to heaven. That's why his body was never found.

Matthew 16:28
'And I tell you the truth, some standing here right now will not die (i.e. will not taste death) before they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom.”'

Hebrews 9:27
'And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once
and after this [comes certain] judgment,'

Brah, I would have loved it, had it being that without giving explanation, you simply just answered the questions straight up

Brah, absence of Bible passage evidence that says that Enoch died is not evidence that Enoch did not die (i.e. is not proof that Enoch did not experience physical death)

Brah, with the utmost respect, Hebrews does not very specifically says Enoch did not die.

There different things here. It's one thing, not to see death, but its a different thing to taste death (i.e. to die)

In, Shakespeare' Julius Caesar, Caesar quoted below is actually confirming scripture (i.e. Hebrews 9:27 seen above):
'A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.'

Brah, Hebrew 11:5, states that Enoch was translated that he should not see death. The verse does not say that Enoch did not die, does not say Enoch did not taste death, but only said he did not see death, and so this makes me re-ask the question again and I humbly hope you'll sincerely, honestly and truthfully answer, which is:
What specific death was Enoch taken away not to see?

Image123:
Enoch was taken away for walking with God 300 years. Enoch and Elijah were moved to a place where Moses is, where Abraham is. We see Elijah and Moses come to meet Jesus during the transfiguration, so apparently they are together. They are all where saints go when they die, conveniently called heaven, popularly called paradise or Abraham's bosom, the arms of Jesus, resting until the rapture when we shall all be changed. The point though is that the Bible clearly states that these two did not die.

Matthew 10:28
'“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul;
rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”'

Luke 12:4-5, 13-21
'4"I tell you, my friends, don't be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5But I will warn you whom you should fear.
Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear him.
13One of the multitude said to him, "Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me."
14But he said to him, "Man, who made me a judge or an arbitrator over you?"
15He said to them, "Beware! Keep yourselves from covetousness, for a man's life doesn't consist of the abundance of the things which he possesses."
16He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The ground of a certain rich man brought forth abundantly.
17He reasoned within himself, saying, 'What will I do, because I don't have room to store my crops?'
18He said, 'This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods.
19I will tell my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry."'
20"But God said to him, 'You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?'
21So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."

You are just reinforcing my point that all men taste death and so physically die, whether its Enoch, Elijah, Philip, Moses etc no man is an exception to that rule.

Let me ask you another easy, simple, innocent, harmless, not intimidating and straightforward question, which is:
How were Moses and Elijah perceived by Jesus' three closest followers (i.e. Peter, James and John)? Was it in the form of a physical appearance or in form of a vision?
If Peter, James and John in their lives prior to that moment have never met either Moses and Elijah, how did they know and recognise them without any form of introduction?

Image123:
If you are emphatic about the verse literal meaning, maybe we should take it in that Jesus Himself was not on earth as the verse says He was in heaven, right?

Brah, please stop using the same God yardstick for measuring puny mortal human beings

Is Jesus, God or Jesus isnt God?
Is it within God's power to be in Heaven and on Earth at the same time? Need I say more? Need I continue?

Image123:
Or when He tells some people that He healed to tell NO MAN, it was literally no man. Of course men knew, the disciples and the priests knew for instance. Are they not men?

Genesis 2:7
'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.'

C'mon look at you talking this way.
Do human beings 100% obey every command of God?
Guess your answer will be No, and thats likely because you know that the art of snitching is all down to having the gift of freewill (i.e. freedom to do as you like)

Man, fundamentally is a soul, enrobed in a bodysuit or dust vestment

Image123:
Jas 5:17  Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

In case that is still not enough for you, note that people who exit earth are no more mere men, else James would not say Elijah was a man. He would have said Elijah IS a man.

It is the bodysuit, that makes a soul a man, makes a soul a human being. It is why our Lord and Saviour of the world, adopted the title Son of man, (i.e. male offspring of a human being)

John 3:9-13
'9Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be possible?”
10Jesus replied, “You are the [great and well-known] teacher of Israel, and yet you do not know nor understand these things [from Scripture]?
11I assure you and most solemnly say to you, we speak only of what we [absolutely] know and testify about what we have [actually] seen [as eyewitnesses]; and [still] you [reject our evidence and] do not accept our testimony.
12If I told you earthly things [that is, things that happen right here on earth] and you do not believe, how will you believe and trust Me if I tell you heavenly things?
13No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]'

Enoch had no state or quality of being divine, and so was not immortal. Meaning that Enoch died, his body returned to earth, his spirit returned back to God, while his soul is currently resting in Adam's bosom ABRAHAM'S bosom aka Paradise, awaiting Judgement Day, just as like every human being awaits that day.

PS: Edited the out of excitement mistake of calling ABRAHAM'S bosom, Adam's bosom
cc: oaroloye

HardMirror:
sir, you just said it all. the issue of the definition of God is actually the root problem

The atheist has defined god with no example. God doesn't fit into his definition, therefore there is no God.

BassReeves:
So, I assume you're trying to push a non existing point that Enoch didnt at all die a physical death?
Is that Yes, that Enoch you are saying didnt die a physical death?
Or its No, and you agree that Enoch did die a physical death?

Enoch and Elijah did not die at all.

BassReeves:

Methuselah?
About the name Methuselah, are you familiar with the name? Yes or No?
Are you familiar with the 'When he dies, judgment' or 'When he is dead, it shall be sent' interpretation meaning of the name? Yes or No?

I think this is off topic for the issue is After Life! Re Enoch and Elijah.

BassReeves:

It certainly is another place on earth for as you rightly confirmed the earth was brimming full of evil, so God took Enoch out before the judgment that was to 120 years later to come.

To where is the question for as you have confirmed, "the earth was brimming full of evil" so God could not have removed him from one part of the evil earth only to put him on the earth that was already full of evil.

So he can not be put on brimming full evil earth.

He has to be put in another clean environment of which by the words "brimming Full" the earth is automatically disqualified already.

Besides, when Philip was taken, we were clearly told where he was dropped on the earth. When Christ came back from "Travel to After Life", we were clearly told when he came back to earth until his next departure from the earth, to which we are told that "He'll be back!"

So, if Enoch and Elijah were returned to the earth, the Bible would have told us so.

BassReeves:

13No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven][/i]'

Based on the above verses, it could not be heaven itself nor any of the other territories of God which we know or not know of. Enoch had no state or quality of being divine, and so was not immortal

If you stick to the fact, as Written, that No one has "gone to heaven" I agree with you.

But when you say there are no other territories belonging to God, then you do not appreciate that death and hell and the seas are territories under the control of God which is why by His Command by Revelation, they shall deliver their inmates and inhabitants to The Lord for Judgement, exactly as classrooms are the territories belonging to the Principal of a school which shall deliver up the students to the Principal for Disciplinary and Award Sections.

It's as simple as that.

BassReeves:

Enoch died, his body returned to earth, his spirit returned back to God, while his soul is currently resting in Adam's bosom aka Paradise, awaiting Judgement Day, just as like every human being awaits that day.

This is your conjecture and an addition to the Bible, for the Bible clearly told the beginning and the specific end of the players of his day with the words "And he died" which was not used for him.

BassReeves:

The reason why our Creator tells us that 'death' is a 'sleeping' is ...

The point here is, you agree with me on Afterlife, which is what the thread is about.

Dtruthspeaker:
Enoch and Elijah did not die at all

Why wouldnt Enoch and Elijah die?
Are Enoch and Elijah divinity and immortal that they shouldn't physically taste death and die?

Dtruthspeaker:
I think this is off topic for the issue is After Life! Re Enoch and Elijah.

You think its off topic because you know it will expose the holes in your defence and so not to incriminate yourself you've gone to exercising your right to remain silent under cross examination

Dtruthspeaker:
To where is the question for as you have confirmed, "the earth was brimming full of evil" so God could not have removed him from one part of the evil earth only to put him on the earth that was already full of evil.

"the earth was brimming full of evil" is a figure of speech brah.
Does it really rain cats and dogs. Smh.

Dtruthspeaker:
So he can not be put on brimming full evil earth.

He has to be put in another clean environment of which by the words "brimming Full" the earth is automatically disqualified already.

Besides, when Philip was taken, we were clearly told where he was dropped on the earth. When Christ came back from "Travel to After Life", we were clearly told when he came back to earth until his next departure from the earth, to which we are told that "He'll be back!"

So, if Enoch and Elijah were returned to the earth, the Bible would have told us so.

Isaiah 57:1
'Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time.
But no one seems to care or wonder why.
No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come.'

Romans 5:12 -14
'12Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin,
so death spread to all people [no one being able to stop it or escape its power], because they all sinned.
13Sin was [committed] in the world before the Law [was given], but sin is not charged [against anyone] when there is no law [against it].
14Yet death ruled [over mankind] from Adam to Moses [the Lawgiver], even over those who had not sinned as Adam did.
Adam is a type of Him (Christ) who was to come [but in reverse--Adam brought destruction, Christ brought salvation].'

You have a passion for arguing blindly brah. If you hadn't been making it a habit of evading answering question directly and answer them in a straightforward manner, the penny would have by now dropped for you.

The bible is not obliged to give information that is considered to be a known fact. It is a done deal that without exception, all men taste death, all men physically die, all human beings die. Period.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you stick to the fact, as Written, that No one has "gone to heaven" I agree with you.

Would your agreement include that Enoch and Elijah tasted death, and so thereby died a physical death, hmm?

Dtruthspeaker:
But when you say there are no other territories belonging to God, then you do not appreciate that death and hell and the seas are territories under the control of God which is why by His Command by Revelation, they shall deliver their inmates and inhabitants to The Lord for Judgement, exactly as classrooms are the territories belonging to the Principal of a school which shall deliver up the students to the Principal for Disciplinary and Award Sections.

Beloved, remember that I what I wrote was recycling back to you your 'So it could be heaven itself or any of the other territories of God which we know not."' comment

Now its very simple that the only other territories of God which we know of to be is Sheol. Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour made up realise that Sheol in fact is has two sections separated by wide gulf or chasm. Every human being is destined to end of up at either of the two place until the Day of Judgment. No human being is in heaven , no human being has gone to heaven. Every human dies and their bodysuit returns back to dust, spirit goes back to God and their soul either go to where the Rich man is or go to Abraham's bosom aka paradise

Dtruthspeaker:
It's as simple as that.

For you it doesnt sound as simple as that though

Dtruthspeaker:
This is your conjecture and an addition to the Bible, for the Bible clearly told the beginning and the specific end of the players of his day with the words "And he died" which was not used for him.

Beloved, an absence of Bible passage evidence with the words "And he died" not used for Enoch, is not evidence that Enoch did not die, is not proof that Enoch did not experience physical death, does not mean that Enoch did not taste death

It isnt conjecture, it Is fact sitting on the shoulder of both inductive and deductive reasonings.

Dtruthspeaker:
The point here is, you agree with me on Afterlife, which is what the thread is about.

The thread is about Mr James Randi RIP who spent a good a considerable part of his life investigating and exposing charlatans

Afterlife, in no way was not debated when you came out and decided to half heartedly respond to the questions I asked Image123. It is the note that Enoch died that you find very hard to swallow and whats giving you stomach ache

Fyi, and have it for free, the fact, truth and point is Enoch and Elijah both tasted death and so physically died. They are no divinity(ies), so would succumb to death whenever the Owner of breath decides it's time He has it back

BassReeves:
Why wouldnt Enoch and Elijah die?
Are Enoch and Elijah divinity and immortal that they shouldn't physically taste death and die?

The Maker of Enoch and Elijah Exercised His Right to Determine that they shall not Die.

BassReeves:

You think its off topic because you know it will expose the holes in your defence...

This is an unfair and unjust response for the rules of fair debate demand contestants to stay within the topic of debate and not go outside it.

Therefore, we can not be talking about Enoch and Elijah, then you are introducing Methuselah.

BassReeves:

Would your agreement include that Enoch and Elijah tasted death, and so thereby died a physical death, hmm?

You obviously forgot that this was the issue of contest, so you have said nothing you are just being repetitive.

BassReeves:

Beloved, an absence of Bible passage evidence with the words "And he died" not used for Enoch, is not evidence that Enoch did not die, is not proof that Enoch did not experience physical death, does not mean that Enoch did not taste death.

Not when it is Seen, that BEFORE Enoch's history about his ancestry "and he died" was clearly expressed against his ancestors andimmediately AFTER his report, we see the return of "and he died".