AntiChristian:


Shebi Jesus don die for all of the sins, so why the need for restitution?

Since someone has paid your debt why not continue to commit debt?.

Thank you jare my brother. We are only the Bible not there still many things confusing about it

If its preached, almost all Nigeria will forfeit most of their achievement cos most people cheat from school, from work and from business....you can't live in Nigeria, and expect to live holy live...we just keep deceiving ourself

I offend u i tell u and u forgive me...finish but to return 1 match stick i took as a child without knowing...is going to be hard i believe if i sin and i walk up to God for forgiveness either with restitution or not i believe im pardoned...how will i restitute the meat i ate without telling anyone or the water i drank in another person house without their permission...everything is grace...

prettypraise:
Many churches don't preach restitution deeply. But before I continue, restitution is making right your wrong, mostly to humans you offended. After we have repented of our sins, if we see those whom we offended, defrauded, we can go and make peace with them.

If you stole from a neighbour or defrauded someone, should you apologize to them after repentance or should you just accept Jesus and move on without confessing it to them? If a wife or husband has been committing adultery, if they repent, is there any need to tell their partners?

Restitution is a hard-saying, so tell us your view about it.

Is it not good that an evil is corrected and amendments made to rectify a wrong?

So because nigeria has been paying debt or will pay the current debt so you should continue in borrowing abi?

AntiChristian:


Shebi Jesus don die for all of the sins, so why the need for restitution?

Since someone has paid your debt why not continue to commit debt?.

daddio:



Okay, let's say you have a friend who wouldn't allow her husband make love or have s.ex with her. You and her husband works in the same company and this brings about some closeness between you and that man. He told you of how your friend had been starving him with love making or s.ex.

Later on, (one thing led to another) you and the man started going to hotels to fulfill what his wife wouldn't give to him.

After some months, you rededicated your life to Christ and stop the shit with that man.


Would you go and meet that woman to tell her what happened between you and her husband (all in the name of restitution)?

Will you tell your own husband this?

Oga abeg stop the saying...... wouldn’t involve mysef in such saying. Must u pple think abt weird things

It not only should but must be practiced. The omission is why the church doesn't have effect on the society and producing evil rather than good people.

Restitution is compulsory.
It is an evidence to the people who knew you in your old life that you're a changed person.
Restitution brings peace between you and your offenders.

Restitution is a proof of genuine repentance..

babadee1:

He said that to only one person in the Bible not to everyone He met. So it's a very specific instruction for one man not for all.

Open thay book again so you are sure of what you are saying. Jesus Christ said it to all those who will follow Him. Those two parables were given to all those who want to see Heaven.... you have loose it all in order to enter into Heaven.

All of His disciples did it, and the same is expected of everyone who even imagines following Jesus Christ all the way into Heaven.

Lovalovaphunmz:

Oga abeg stop the saying...... wouldn’t involve mysef in such saying. Must u pple think abt weird things

Well, such won't be your portion.

It's a true life issue/story.

The said lady is the choir mistress of a church in Lagos, she had 2 kids with her husband before they separated.

The said man is also a deacon in a church not far from that lady's house.

They are both working in a ..... Company in Lagos. Though before she started going out with that married deacon she'd had flings with at least 3 guys ...

Kobojunkie:
Open thay book again so you are sure of what you are saying. Jesus Christ said it to all those who will follow Him. Those two parables were given to all those who want to see Heaven.... you have loose it all in order to enter into Heaven.

All of His disciples did it, and the same is expected of everyone who even imagines following Jesus Christ all the way into Heaven.

You don't know what you're talking about. Joseph of Arimathea was one of the disciples of Jesus and he was a very rich man. It was he who lent his own prepared tomb for Jesus to be laid in until His resurrection. Both the poor and the rich have always been part of the Christian Church from the very beginning.

The truth about restitution explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEXGjXmIKY0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GsNUxNUmKM

daddio:




Well, such won't be your portion.

It's a true life issue/story.

The said lady is the choir mistress of a church in Lagos, she had 2 kids with her husband before they separated.


The said man is also a deacon in a church not far from that lady's house.

They are both working in a ..... Company in Lagos. Though before she started going out with that married deacon she'd had flings with at least 3 guys ...

If truly dir will be a judgement day, all these so called men of God and deacons go get case gan sha....if na sin i talk, make God forgive me.

Lovalovaphunmz:
I believe in restitution, if i offend someone and i later realise it, i go back to seek for forgiveness and probably confess (if it’s something that needs to be confessed).
I always like to be at peace with everyone .
Although its nt easy oo

It's making peace.It is not restitution.

Thank you, father.

❤❤❤❤

DrGill:
Jesus died for all of our sins
Why restitution?

This shows you lack the one thing that will ultimately keep you out of heaven: LOVE.

I had this friend in higher institution days, Ameh, we all contribute to eat but, Ameh brings fowl and slaughters it as his contribution and we all eat it. Little did we know he steals the fowl.

10years after we left school and served, many of us got employed and are happily married with kids, Ameh remained unemployed, he was married without kids for years until according to him, he went for deliverance and a prophet told him he was under a spell from an old widow he stole from on his days of ignorance.

Ameh confessed, he went back to our school in search of the owners of the fowls he stole, the widow was late but he met her family member, who received him and accepted his restitution im cash. Months afterwards, Ameh got a great job that pays well, they now have two kids.

Lessons I learnt: Its not everything that requires prayers, some need sincere restitution or its attempt. There are many born again living in deep poverty, they would make heaven but suffer on earth except they make restitution like Zaccheus.

dd

babadee1:

You don't know what you're talking about. Joseph of Arimathea was one of the disciples of Jesus and he was a very rich man. It was he who lent his own prepared tomb for Jesus to be laid in until His resurrection. Both the poor and the rich have always been part of the Christian Church from the very beginning.

1. Jesus Christ said He had come to the sinners, and not the righteous(good/just), to God.
Joseph of Arimathea, was listed as a good man(righteous) man , already made righteous through His following of the Old Covenant, and who also wanted a part in the Kingdom of God that Jesus Christ came with.

And behold, there was a man named Joseph, a council member, and he was a good man and a just.

51 (The same had not consented to their counsel and deed.) He was of Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who himself also waited for the Kingdom of God.- Luke 23 vs 50 - 51

Joseph of Arimathea, was righteous in the sight of God - this by Old Covenant standards, the very same righteousness Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Old Covenant Laws in order to attain, and the same kind
that He, Jesus Christ, imputed after His death, to all the sinners(lost sheep of Israel) that He was sent to redeem from the Old Covenant unto the New Covenant.

2. Jesus Christ made it clear to all those who will become His followers, through parables - Matthew 13 vs 44 - 46 and through teaching- Matthew 19 vs 16 - 30. He even declared that in Luke 14 vs 26, among other parts of the Gospels, that If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple..

Skoonheid:
You can repent of most sins by making restitution, but you can't bring a dead body back to life, and you can't restore your virginity.
Restitution costs: "He shall restore it in full, and shall add a fifth to it." Restitution costs full plus extra twenty percent according to Leviticus. Good luck with your restitution attempts.

Restitution is for those of the Old Covenant Law of Moses, those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins ..Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20

alexxiswrites:
Is it a doctrine of man or actually in the scripture? That's where to start from.

It is actually a way to righteous for those who of the Old Covenant Law who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins- Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20

That is why Zaccheus, a follower of the Old Covenant Law, announced that he would do restitution according to God's Old law - note - no mention of Jesus Christ instructing to do so.

IMASTEX:
The question is did Christ instructed or preached about it? Let it guide the answer.

Indeed, Jesus instead preached that all those who will be worthy of Him should loose everything for His sake. He even told us parables go tell us of how we buy the treasure treasure Heaven when we sell everything we have and give it away for His sake.

44 “God’s kingdom is like a treasure hidden in a field. One day a man found the treasure. He hid it again and was so happy that he went and sold everything he owned and bought the field.

45 “Also, God’s kingdom is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. 46 One day he found a very fine pearl. He went and sold everything he had to buy it. - Matthew 13 vs 44 - 46

Those who belong to Jesus Christ are those who do as Jesus Christ commands - John 15 vs 14

babadee1:

Is it in the Bible as a requirement? The only example I can recall from the Bible is Zacchaeus who offered to do it willingly. If it's not a biblical teaching or requirement then there's no need to turn it into a doctrine.
What Jesus always said was "Go and sin no more." He never ever referred to the past again.

Zaccheus was not a follower of Jesus Christ but an Old Covenant Law of Moses, who made the decision after his meeting with Jesus Christ to obey the Word of God as written of in Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20.

Jesus instead preached that all those who will be worthy of Him should loose everything for His sake. He even told us parables go tell us of how we buy the treasure treasure Heaven when we sell everything we have and give it away for His sake.

44 “God’s kingdom is like a treasure hidden in a field. One day a man found the treasure. He hid it again and was so happy that he went and sold everything he owned and bought the field.

45 “Also, God’s kingdom is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. 46 One day he found a very fine pearl. He went and sold everything he had to buy it. - Matthew 13 vs 44 - 46

Those who belong to Jesus Christ are those who do as Jesus Christ commands - John 15 vs 14

Demzlent:
When people you hurt are still grieving,it makes sense to try and heal their wound which came up in the 1st place because of your actions but you must let the spirit of God guide you

It makes sense to do so to show you love your neighbors and enemies but to become worthy of Jesus Christ, Jesus instead preached that all those who will be worthy of Him should loose everything for His sake. He even told us parables go tell us of how we buy the treasure treasure Heaven when we sell everything we have and give it away for His sake.

44 “God’s kingdom is like a treasure hidden in a field. One day a man found the treasure. He hid it again and was so happy that he went and sold everything he owned and bought the field.

45 “Also, God’s kingdom is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. 46 One day he found a very fine pearl. He went and sold everything he had to buy it. - Matthew 13 vs 44 - 46

Those who belong to Jesus Christ are those who do as Jesus Christ commands - John 15 vs 14

DrGill:
Jesus died for all of our sins
Why restitution?

Correction , Jesus Christ didn't die for your sins but for the sins of those formerly under the Old Covenant, the Lost sheep of Israel, who He was sent to ransom from the Old Law so you can have a part in the New Covenant Law and the Kingdom of God.

Restitution was of the Old Covenant Law, a way of obtaining God's Righteousness for those who are born with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20.

For those of us who what to be of the New Covenant,
Jesus instead preached that all those who will be worthy of Him should loose everything for His sake. He even told us parables go tell us of how we buy the treasure treasure Heaven when we sell everything we have and give it away for His sake.

44 “God’s kingdom is like a treasure hidden in a field. One day a man found the treasure. He hid it again and was so happy that he went and sold everything he owned and bought the field.

45 “Also, God’s kingdom is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. 46 One day he found a very fine pearl. He went and sold everything he had to buy it. - Matthew 13 vs 44 - 46

Those who belong to Jesus Christ are those who do as Jesus Christ commands - John 15 vs 14

Cholls:
My brother yes Rest should be preached...stress of Lagos is too much

It is not what Jesus Christ preached though and since we are asked to preach only that Gospel message that Jesus Christ Himself taught to us, how can you preach that which is not of Jesus Christ as if for Him?

Lovalovaphunmz:
I believe in restitution, if i offend someone and i later realise it, i go back to seek for forgiveness and probably confess (if it’s something that needs to be confessed).
I always like to be at peace with everyone .
Although its nt easy oo

Seeking forgiveness for sins is commanded of us by Jesus Christ. But restitution as preached in most church doctrines are the giving back of that which you owe as way of obtaining God's favor is a lie.

DeMonk:
This is an important topic that I have not seen being preached enough.

What Jesus Christ taught is that we seek forgiveness from those we have offended and not that we give back that which we have taken as a way of obtaining favor from God.

SmilingImabong:

So because nigeria has been paying debt or will pay the current debt so you should continue in borrowing abi?

Nigeria is a developing country struggling to meet up with its obligations to her people.

So Jesus is now like Nigerian?

Yes he is a Nigerian.

AntiChristian:


Nigeria is a developing country struggling to meet up with its obligations to her people.

So Jesus is now like Nigerian?

easiest:

Thank you jare my brother. We are only the Bible not there still many things confusing about it

There is nothing confusing in the Bible about what to do as one who pretends to believe in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ made it clear that that who love Him are those who trust and obey His teachings and commandments, as He is God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, the agreement that exists between God and individuals - John 14 vs 23 - 25 .

Jesus Christ said that His friends are those who do what He tells them to do - His enemies would ofcourse be those of you who refuse to do what He tells you to do- John 15 vs 14

Jesus Christ died for the sins of the Old Covenant people who God wanted to make a new agreement, Jesus Christ, with. In the New Covenant, we have laws /commandments we are to live by and anyone that refuses to live by them sins(disobedience) against God .

@Ladylawyer
Restitution is very good but please know that certain things are better left in secret. If it will break hearts and cause more trouble, please pray to God and change your ways without having to voice out your offences especially to the offended. I have warned you.


@me
Very correct. The ordinary meaning of restitution is to bring back to the original position. Zacheaus' statement was the clearest in the new testament.

Scripturally you don't have proceeds of sin, enjoying them and you say that you have repented. If you forsake sin you must forsake it's proceeds.

In demonology (study of demons), you can't cast out demons and you still retain what they gave you. Those things will attract them back. In fact the vocal demons will challenge you openly.

Caveat: some restitutions are either impossible, unnecessary and/or should be handled with care. Counseling by an experience pastor will be required.

Example: someone was a cultist before. Killed the only child of a couple that cannot have another one. Upon repentance and being a born again, you then go to the couple to restitute.