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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 5:22pm On Aug 27, 2021
May God help Nigeria too.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 5:42pm On Aug 27, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Excerpt:

I worked as a soldier at the coalface of Nato’s Resolute Support mission, which was supposed to train, support and assist Afghan security services and institutions. We provided security for advisers while they engaged with their Afghan counterparts in Kabul. Generally, this would mean picking them up, taking them to the meeting, providing security for the meeting and bringing them back to base. From my perspective, there were at least two fundamental errors in the mission’s approach. The first was the massive outsourcing to the private sector that underwrote the operation.

Let me state categorically, our service people are not to blame. The soldiers I served with, those who fought in Helmand and later safeguarded in Kabul, acted, almost without exception, with the utmost professionalism and valour. To have served alongside them is the great honour of my life. But Nato’s mission was not fit for purpose.

1)
When I was in Afghanistan, private military contractors numbered almost 30,000. Some were engaged in protection tasks, but many more were responsible for training and mentoring Afghans who held positions of significant influence. They advised on intelligence, war-fighting, diplomacy, policing, you name it. Some of them were doing their best. Many more didn’t give a damn. Many were on six figures and had been for years. Afghanistan for them was a cash cow, a way of putting their kids through college (most were American) or paying off a mortgage. In sum, there were too many poorly qualified people working without accountability, getting paid far too much. If you want an answer to the question of why Afghanistan’s military crumbled in weeks, take a long hard look at their so-called mentors.
This part is the major reason why on ground American interventions have been failing, it has become a cash cow for some people. They are not there to truly carry out the overarching objectives.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 5:57pm On Aug 27, 2021
wirinet:
Trump is a hero among Republicans, he is a diety among MAGA cultists and Far right groups. But He is a non entity among the wider US population. And he is a joke according to the rest of the world population. He is the most unpopular former US president in history. He has not been invited for any talks or conference by any International organization since leaving office. Even our own OBJ and Jonathan has more clout than Trump internationally.
Your entry does not add up bro. This man garnered (easily too) 70+ million American votes in the 2020 Election. You sound like one of the reasonable ones here and not some foul, loud mouth cursing dolt. Half dead Biden was rigged in by . . .

Will/Can you truthfully say that someone with that number of votes is truly unpopular among the wider US population?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 6:08pm On Aug 27, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Yes that's why I earlier said he could still have squeezed out a win if not for his lack of empathy and how he handled the GF riots and Corona virus.

Unlike the Afghan issue, those other two factors were personal and affected alot of Americans at home.

Some also argued that the earlier boom in economy was as a result of Obama's policies.
You are right, the Afghan issue is not as personal as covid and those riots are to the people. If only he showed empathy, he'd have won the election.
But I don't think Trump is an overly bad man, he's just like every other politician we have today. His only issue is that he is loud and undiplomatic but he tried in some areas.

And for the record, I was among those who thought that Obama's policies helped him too, but I applaud him for keeping the momentum going. See how mr Buhari has destroyed the little growth the last administration recorded.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 6:26pm On Aug 27, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Excerpt:

I worked as a soldier at the coalface of Nato’s Resolute Support mission, which was supposed to train, support and assist Afghan security services and institutions. We provided security for advisers while they engaged with their Afghan counterparts in Kabul. Generally, this would mean picking them up, taking them to the meeting, providing security for the meeting and bringing them back to base. From my perspective, there were at least two fundamental errors in the mission’s approach. The first was the massive outsourcing to the private sector that underwrote the operation.

Let me state categorically, our service people are not to blame. The soldiers I served with, those who fought in Helmand and later safeguarded in Kabul, acted, almost without exception, with the utmost professionalism and valour. To have served alongside them is the great honour of my life. But Nato’s mission was not fit for purpose.

1)
When I was in Afghanistan, private military contractors numbered almost 30,000. Some were engaged in protection tasks, but many more were responsible for training and mentoring Afghans who held positions of significant influence. They advised on intelligence, war-fighting, diplomacy, policing, you name it. Some of them were doing their best. Many more didn’t give a damn. Many were on six figures and had been for years. Afghanistan for them was a cash cow, a way of putting their kids through college (most were American) or paying off a mortgage. In sum, there were too many poorly qualified people working without accountability, getting paid far too much. If you want an answer to the question of why Afghanistan’s military crumbled in weeks, take a long hard look at their so-called mentors.

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Then there was the simplistic assumption that everyone in Afghanistan could fall into two categories, enlightened liberal reformers who would welcome a western presence, and conservative folk susceptible to the Taliban. Needless to say, things were more complicated than that.

3)
There were some pretty unsavoury characters who worked with us in Kabul. One morning, an interpreter who had worked with the British for decades sidled up to me at breakfast and pointed at a young Afghan woman who also worked as an interpreter. In a voice loud enough for her to hear everything, he declared her a “filthy LovePeddler”. His reason? She was wearing a pair of jeans and a bright pink headscarf. This sort of language and these attitudes were commonplace and generally went unchallenged by soldiers and contractors, who didn’t want to be seen as undermining locals. And if they were accepted in a Nato base, what hope was there of combating the Taliban’s brutal misogyny?

4)
Corruption existed at every level. One afternoon I provided protection for a meeting between an Afghan air force lawyer and his US adviser. As I sweated into my body armour, they discussed an investigation relating to unauthorised travel on Afghan air force flights. In brief, the Taliban had been able to board flights reserved for Afghan soldiers and fly across the country with impunity. After several hours of back-and-forth on how best to proceed, the American eventually lost his cool and shouted: “You have to get rid of these corrupt people!” The Afghan lawyer calmly answered: “Would you like me to disband the entire Afghan air force?” The American had no answer to that. The west has had no answer to that for 20 years.

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How Nato believed that these fragile institutions were capable of holding back a group like the Taliban, who spoke with one voice and strove towards one end, is beyond me. In truth, it probably didn’t – it was accepting of Afghanistan’s fate and the fate of its hopeful youth.
---Quite a number of Americans really milked the war on terror in Afghanistan by being private military contractors (whatever that means)---they are the group of people who wanted the U.S. to stay much longer---because they are benefitting from the billion of dollars largesse---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:50pm On Aug 27, 2021
Backlash After U.S. Army’s Top Sergeant Major Highlighted ‘Diversity,’ ‘Women’s Equality’ On Morning Of Terrorist Attack

On Thursday morning, only hours before the terrorist attack on Kabul Airport was widely reported across the world, the U.S. Army’s top sergeant major, who reportedly is the most senior enlisted member and advises enlistment efforts, tweeted a tribute to Women’s Equality Day and diversity in the army, prompting harsh criticism in the wake of the terrorist attack.

Sergeant Major of the Army Michael Grinston tweeted:

Diversity is a number — do you have people that don’t look or think like you in the room? Inclusion is listening and valuing those people. #Women’s Equality Day reminds us we’re smarter and more lethal when we come together as an inclusive, cohesive team. Our values demand it.

Diversity is a number – do you have people that don’t look or think like you in the room? Inclusion is listening and valuing those people. #WomensEqualityDay reminds us we’re smarter and more lethal when we come together as an inclusive, cohesive team. Our values demand it. pic.twitter.com/b72l2EcIn0

— SMA Michael Grinston (@16thSMA) August 26, 2021

The anger among Grinson’s critics was palpable:

Gunnery Sergeant U.S. Marine Corps Jessica Jane Duff: “This is what matters: 11 Marines and one Navy Corpsman killed. Americans. I’m positive hey didn’t look or hink like you, Sergeant Major. Every flag draped coffin looks the same. We have an @AfghanistanCrisis and this is your tweet. Shameful.”

This is what matters: 11 Marines and one Navy Corpsman killed. Americans.

I'm positive they didn't look or think like you, Sergeant Major. Every flag drapped coffin looks the same.

We have an #AfghanistanCrisis and this is your tweet. Shameful. https:///tVYbi8ROlM

— Jessie Jane Duff (@JessieJaneDuff) August 26, 2021

Radio host Jason Rantz: “13 is a number… of the service members who were killed today in Afghanistan. The attack was the deadliest day for the U.S. military in more than 10 years. Those are numbers that matter more than your performative twitter nonsense.”

13 is a number… of the service members who were killed today in Afghanistan. The attack was the deadliest day for the U.S. military in more than 10 years. Those are numbers that matter more than your performative twitter nonsense. https:///Iq3kkxZ3g0

— Jason Rantz on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) August 27, 2021

Radio host Derek Hunter: “‘How could an attack like this happen?’ Idiots like this are in charge.”

"How could an attack like this happen?"
Idiots like this are in charge. https:///aKOSI1zxSA

— Derek Hunter (@derekahunter) August 26, 2021

The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh: “This is what our military’s leadership was worried about this morning, hours before 12 Marines were killed.”

This is what our military's leadership was worried about this morning, hours before 12 Marines were killed https:///H8njYINNQS

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) August 26, 2021

In mid-June, Arkansas Republican Senator Tom Cotton, who along with Texas GOP Rep. Dan Crenshaw had offered an avenue for members of the military to send whistleblower complaints about “woke” efforts to transform the U.S. military, revealed some blistering complaints he had received as he questioned Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin.

After citing numerous examples of service members disconsolate from the “woke” incidents they cited, Cotton fired off a series of questions to Austin, including, “Should a member of the organization you lead be treated differently in violation of the Constitution, I would add, based on their sex or the color of their skin?”

Austin answered, “No, I do not believe that,” but then added, “And that is why we have diversity, equity and inclusion focus in the military,” later insisting, “I would also say that diversity, equity and inclusion is important to this military now, and it will be important in the future.”

Cotton started by saying, “Mr. Secretary, I have received, along with Congressman Crenshaw, several hundred whistleblower complaints about Pentagon extremist and diversity training. I just want to share a small selection of what your troops are saying.”

He followed by citing reports of a military history training session being replaced with mandatory training on police brutality, white privilege, and systemic racism; instructions to a member of Special Operations that “The U.S. Special Operations community is racist” ; a general officer telling an Army officer that “the entire U.S. Army is racist” ; a midshipman at the Naval Academy attesting that classmates were calling America a “fundamentally racist place” and were not challenged by school administrators; an airman saying their unit was forced into a racist exercise called a “privilege walk”; a Space Force officer saying an African-American servicemember said after the training that she would never have joined the military had she known that it was such a hotbed of racism; and a white airman who said he didn’t sign up to be indoctrinated, then filed separation paperwork.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:29pm On Aug 27, 2021
Ronaldo back at ManU, we are going to carry the Premier League this season. Lol. Big ups for ManU.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 7:31pm On Aug 27, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Ronaldo back at ManU, we are going to carry the Premier League this season. Lol. Big ups for ManU.
go to tha sports section dant derail this thread. ya dant even watch tha football
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:11pm On Aug 27, 2021
This Kabul attack was that deadly.
175 casualties so far.
And a local Afghan whose neighbor died says All that happened because of the Americans.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by zendi:
They claim they chaosed Afghanistan TO HONOR alleged Trump deal with the Taliban. But when did the Left get into the business of honoring Trump deals ? On the first day of office they chaosed the Southern Border in REJECTION of Trump's deal with Mexico.

They also excoriated Trump for negotiating with terrorists, but right now they're not only talking with the Talibans, t!hey are actually at the mercy of the Talibans to help keep off the gathering of all variants of terror groups that are right now massed around the airport and wanting to get through to blow up everything.

The middle name of the Left is Incompetence.
Their only competence is in Race Baiting, Flag Burning and Anthem Kneeling.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/pompeo-biden-blaming-trump-afghanistan-withdrawal
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:46pm On Aug 27, 2021
ono:
Your entry does not add up bro. This man garnered (easily too) 70+ million American votes in the 2020 Election. You sound like one of the reasonable ones here and not some foul, loud mouth cursing dolt. Half dead Biden was rigged in by . . .

Will/Can you truthfully say that someone with that number of votes is truly unpopular among the wider US population?
Rigged by who? That "Biden was rigged in" has become an psychotic obsession for a few of Trumps followers.
Biden was rigged in but most Republican election officials, election observers, state legislative members and federal legislative members endorsed the elections.

Biden was rigged in but his lawyers said they did not expect people to be stupid enough to believe it.

Biden was rigged in and yet not one proof was presented in the over 60 court cases which they lost.

As I said, Trump is popular among republucan voters, but not so popular among the general US population. He lost the popular votes in 2016 by close to 3 million votes. He lost to Biden by over 7 million votes. If he contests again I am certain he will lose the popular votes by over 10 million votes. He has become even more unpopular within the US population.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 9:02pm On Aug 27, 2021
basilico:
This Kabul attack was that deadly.
175 casualties so far.
And a local Afghan whose neighbor died says All that happened because of the Americans.
The local Afghan won't have to worry about NATO, America or other Allies of the Western powers anymore after the 31st of August. They are leaving their shithole for them smiley
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays: 9:05pm On Aug 27, 2021
wirinet:
Rigged by who? That "Biden was rigged in" has become an psychotic obsession for a few of Trumps followers.
Biden was rigged in but most Republican election officials, election observers, state legislative members and federal legislative members endorsed the elections.

Biden was rigged in but his lawyers said they did not expect people to be stupid enough to believe it.

Biden was rigged in and yet not one proof was presented in the over 60 court cases which they lost.

As I said, Trump is popular among republucan voters, but not so popular among the general US population. He lost the popular votes in 2016 by close to 3 million votes. He lost to Biden by over 7 million votes. If he contests again I am certain he will lose the popular votes by over 10 million votes. He has become even more unpopular within the US population.
Even his own Attorney General called the fraud claims Bullshit. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:06pm On Aug 27, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
The local Afghan won't have to worry about NATO, America or other Allies of the Western powers anymore after the 31st of August. They are leaving their shithole for them smiley
I think its only the US that still continuing evacuations from Sunday .
There will be people left under the mercy of the Taliban.
Turkey will be stationed at the airport in a tech support role.
US will help Taliban to search for ISIS-K and probably bomb them too.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:12pm On Aug 27, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Even his own Attorney General called the fraud claims Bullshit. grin
Not only his attorney general, his vice president, his party's senate majority leader and house leader, state governors of his party, most members of his cabinet and numerous senior Republicans believed he lost the election.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:16pm On Aug 27, 2021
ono:
Your entry does not add up bro. This man garnered (easily too) 70+ million American votes in the 2020 Election. You sound like one of the reasonable ones here and not some foul, loud mouth cursing dolt. Half dead Biden was rigged in by . . .

Will/Can you truthfully say that someone with that number of votes is truly unpopular among the wider US population?
Hi bro, what happened to Biden getting arrested on March 4th?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:21pm On Aug 27, 2021
Amid a warning Friday to President Biden from his national security team that another terror attack in Kabul is likely, the Pentagon acknowledged that thousands of ISIS prisoners were released after the U.S. withdrawal from Bagram Air Base last month. Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin asked Pentagon spokesman John Kirby on Friday: "How many ISIS-K prisoners were left at Bagram and are believed to have been released from the prison there, and why weren’t they removed before the US pulled out – to some place like Gitmo?"
Kirby said he didn't know "the exact number." "Clearly, it's in the thousands, when you consider both prisons," he said On July 2, U.S. troops abandoned Bagram in the middle of the night without warning their Afghan allies. On Aug. 15, the Taliban seized the base from the Afghan army and set free 5,000 prisoners, which included by Taliban and ISIS fighters .

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:28pm On Aug 27, 2021
Ibime:
Hi bro, what happened to Biden getting arrested on March 4th?
Very shameless people. I am shocked that some of them have the guts to crawl out of their wormhole after all the noise they made before the last elections on how Trump will annihilate senile and basement hiding Biden in the elections, even when all popular polls and the two presidential debates indicated otherwise. After loeing face, instead of keeping quiet, the are further humiliating themselves with a "Trump actually won and Biden rigged" narrative.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:33pm On Aug 27, 2021
wirinet:
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Very shameless people. I am shocked that some of them have the guts to crawl out of their wormhole after all the noise they made before the last elections on how Trump will annihilate senile and basement hiding Biden in the elections, even when all popular polls and the two presidential debates indicated otherwise. After loeing face, instead of keeping quiet, the are further humiliating themselves with a "Trump actually won and Biden rigged" narrative [/s].
Why not let audits go on.They democrats go to court to stop them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:35pm On Aug 27, 2021
despite the knowledge the Taliban freed thousands of ISIS fighters, Biden still stood before the country Thursday night and told us the following to justify his fiasco of an evacuation plan: “[W]e have been made aware by our intelligence community that ISIS-K, a staunch enemy of the Taliban, the people who are in both those prisons were freed — were opened, planning a complex set of attacks on United States personnel and others.” Whoa, whoa, whoa… Slow down there… So ISIS is a “staunch enemy” of the Taliban, but the Taliban “freed” from “prison” thousands of ISIS fighters? So the Taliban freed its “staunch enemy?” Can we just back up a little back here? Who freed them? Who freed the ISIS fighters killing Americans? The Taliban freed them. And now you’re telling us the Taliban freed their “staunch enemies?” Why would the Taliban free their “staunch enemies?” And this is the same Taliban Biden put in charge of security.
Oh, and guess what else the Biden administration did for our good buddies, the Taliban. Sociopath Joe gave the Taliban a list of every American and Afghan who wants to get out of Afghanistan, a “kill list” that told the Taliban exactly who betrayed them over the course of our 20 years there, as well as a hostage list of every U.S. citizen in that country. Did Trump tell Biden to hand over a kill list? I have some other questions… Who told Biden to evacuate our troops before he evacuated our civilians and allies? It wasn’t Trump. Who told Biden to withdraw our troops and leave behind tens of billions of dollars in operational war machinery? It wasn’t Trump. Who told Biden to postpone Trump’s May 1 withdrawal date to late August when, unlike early May, the Taliban come out of their villages and poppy fields to form a summer army? It wasn’t Trump. Who told Biden to abandon Bagram Air Base before the evacuation was complete? It wasn’t Trump. Who told Biden to put Islamic terrorists in charge of our security? It wasn’t Trump. Biden’s failures here, his depraved indifference to human life, his misjudgments, his craven political calculations… It’s beyond anything in the history of American politics. Weak men have always caused a helluva lot more carnage in this world than strong men.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:44pm On Aug 27, 2021
basilico:
Why not let audits go on.They democrats go to court to stop them.
Which audit? Is there any where in the world that election audits determines the winner of elections?What do you think is the purpose of Republican arranged audits? Is there any place for external audits in the electoral process?The so called audits is to keep MAGAs fired up until the mid term elections.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:47pm On Aug 27, 2021
basilico:
Why not let audits go on.They democrats go to court to stop them.
Because you don't expect democrats to participate or trust a Republican arranged audit to be conducted by Cyber ninja.

We are all awaiting the results and conclusion of the audits. I hope it will not be another Kraken.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:57pm On Aug 27, 2021
wirinet:
Which audit? Is there any where in the world that election audits determines the winner of elections?What do you think is the purpose of Republican arranged audits? Is there any place for external audits in the electoral process?The so called audits is to keep MAGAs fired up until the mid term elections.
Do you have brain cells?
I should have remembered to ignore you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:20pm On Aug 27, 2021
Taliban uses massive bio database to track every person whose details had been captured by US forces. Have. specialised unit Al Isha combing through the data.
Wharra mess by Joe Biden.



“But American, NDS [Afghanistan’s National
Directorate of Security] and RAW’s [India’s
Research and Analysis Wing] puppets won’t
be let off. They will always be watched by Al
Isha. Those who were barking about having
US dollars in their pockets till a few days back
— they won’t be spared. They can’t be spared,
can they?”


https://nypost.com/2021/08/27/taliban-kill-squad-hunting-afghans-with-americas-biometric-data/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 11:41pm On Aug 27, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Gladly, the war ends on the 31st of August. Thanks to President Biden.

Enough of the loss of lives and stupid waste of money.
Exactly my thoughts


It's like you are the only one reading my mind here.

My anger is more about the deaths of those soldiers than even the money being wasted in that land.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by MilitaryLady(f): 12:29am On Aug 28, 2021
Wirinet I can see you're scared of Taliban terrorists maybe that's why the failure of a Biden doesn't want to carry out a guerrilla strategy to decimate those terrorists.

Just click on the link below and read what these terrorist just did to a poor widow and you'll now see they are the ones behind the Bomb blast in Kabul.
Forget that ISIS claims of being responsible as you've been deceived by the media
https://www.nairaland.com/6722896/taliban-kill-woman-after-she
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 2:40am On Aug 28, 2021
wirinet:
Rigged by who? That "Biden was rigged in" has become an psychotic obsession for a few of Trumps followers.
Biden was rigged in but most Republican election officials, election observers, state legislative members and federal legislative members endorsed the elections.

Biden was rigged in but his lawyers said they did not expect people to be stupid enough to believe it.

Biden was rigged in and yet not one proof was presented in the over 60 court cases which they lost.

As I said, Trump is popular among republucan voters, but not so popular among the general US population. He lost the popular votes in 2016 by close to 3 million votes. He lost to Biden by over 7 million votes. If he contests again I am certain he will lose the popular votes by over 10 million votes. He has become even more unpopular within the US population.
Hahaha Bros, the man got 70+ million American votes. I see you've consciously avoided that line in your rebuttal.

We learnt Obama de Odumber was actually quite popular than half dead Biden (ever watched Walking Dead movie?). Obama got 69,498,516 votes in the 2008 election and 65,915,795 in the 2012 presidential election (reduced votes).

Now, tell us how in the world Donald J Trump - with 62,984,828 (2016 presidential election) and 74,216,154 in the 2020 election (a massive 12+ million votes increase from previous election) is unpopular in the US of A? Never mind that half dead, slow poke Joe rigged his way in.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 2:41am On Aug 28, 2021
Ok. So, wirinet is in the bandwagon of demonrats on this board. Now I know better than to waste my time abeg.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 2:49am On Aug 28, 2021
Ibime:
Hi bro, what happened to Biden getting arrested on March 4th?
Well, I hope you're not blind.....or deaf.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays:
basilico:
I think its only the US that still continuing evacuations from Sunday .
There will be people left under the mercy of the Taliban.
Turkey will be stationed at the airport in a tech support role.
US will help Taliban to search for ISIS-K and probably bomb them too.
I wish the the bombing/drone can be extended to Nigeria. The leaders of ISWAP and Boko Haram need to be pounded in their hideouts too.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Tdotbluejays:
What is the difference between the Taliban and Isis?

Islamist militant factions have fought between themselves for control of Afghanistan since 2015

The Taliban and Isis are both Sunni Islamist extremist groups seeking to form authoritarian states under strict Sharia law and prepared to use violence to achieve their aim.

The two forces are actually enemies, however, who have fought bitterly since 2015 when Isis formed the Islamic State-Khorasan Province (ISKP) in Afghanistan at a time when it was first seeking to extend its geographical reach beyond Iraq and Syria.

The Taliban first came to prominence in 1994 during the Afghan Civil War, its ranks composed largely of students - from which the group derives its name in Pashto - many of whom had been mujahideen resistance fighters who had battled occupation by the Soviet Union in the 1980s.

A Deobandi fundamentalist Islamist movement originating in the Pashtun areas of eastern and southern Afghanistan and in northern Pakistan, the Taliban was led by Mullah Mohammed Omar and conquered first the province of Herat and then the whole country by September 1996, overthrowing the Burhanuddin Rabbani regime, establishing the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and making Kandahar the capital.

Its tyrannical rule, marked by the massacre of opponents, the denial of UN food supplies to starving citizens and the oppression of women, was brought to an abrupt end by US-led coalition forces in December 2001 in retaliation for Osama Bin Laden’s devastating al-Qaeda terror strike on the World Trade Center in New York City.

Since then, Taliban fighters have regrouped as an insurgency and continued to battle to retake Afghanistan from US, Western Allies and NATO peacekeeping forces ever since.

Isis meanwhile was first formed by Jordanian jihadist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in 1999 before rising to global prominence when it drove Iraqi forces out of key cities in the west of the country in 2014 - having declared itself a worldwide caliphate - and later conquered swathes of eastern Syria before ultimately surrendering Mosul and Raqqa in 2017 when international forces intervened.

It established the ISKP in the Nangarhar Province of eastern Afghanistan in January 2015, actively recruiting defectors from the Taliban, in particular those who were discontented with their own leadership’s lack of success on the battlefield.

How have their respective factions interacted?

The formation of ISKP prompted Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour to write a letter to his Isis counterpart, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, calling on him to abandon his recruitment drive of the disaffected and arguing that any war for their comparable cause in Afghanistan should be carried out under Taliban leadership.

Fighting duly broke out between the two sides that June 2015 and between two separate factions of the Taliban in the Zabul Province that November over whether or not to join forces with Isis.

More battles erupted in April 2017 when ISKP captured three drug dealers selling opium to raise funds for the Taliban in the northern Afghan province of Jowzjan and again in May 2017 when 22 militants were killed in clashes between the two sides along the Iranian border.

The Taliban launched an offensive to clear Isis out of Jowzjan the following summer, with the the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan joining in on the latter’s side, as up to 7,000 people were displaced from their homes.

That July’s conflict ended in a significant defeat for ISKP, who suffered further setbacks in skirmishes the following year before being almost entirely eradicated by the US and the Afghan military in late 2019, although the Council for Foreign Relations estimates that there are still 2,200 members of ISKP still active in Afghanistan.

Despite having an Afghan government in power, In February 2020, the Donald Trump administration signed its peace accord with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, which saw the latter group pledge to keep other Islamist extremists, including Isis, out of the country.
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