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Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:23pm On Aug 28, 2021
Why can't you say what you know about the topic of discussion?
Are you sure Papa's god has a month at all spiritually speaking? Psalms 115:5 undecided

MightySparrow:
Hahuh Your GB's definition of righteousness.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Dtruthspeaker: 10:59pm On Aug 28, 2021
22jumpstreet:
The Truth is that you have not disproved his facts.
Who is the "his" here? You better not say you are referring to your you as your second Monika somnva who has 4 losses against me.

22jumpstreet:
After much back and forth you acceptted my nature of man analysis. Man is made up of spirit of God + dust ofthe earth..
grin See, proof that you are somnvayina!

When did I dispute that with you when it is clearly written in the Bible? Please don't let your insanity return early.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Nobody: 12:05am On Aug 29, 2021
Idamond:
What will happens to those people who dead without hearing the Gospel?
what will be the faith of those people.
Two things:

We all know who God is, and that's He's good.
We know this by His creation.

Romans 1:18-21 (NKJV):
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is evident in them, for God has shown it to them.
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

So we are without excuse if we pretend we don't know who God is, or that He's good, and wants us to be the same way by seeking Him.

And then:

Romans 2:12-16 (NKJV):
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)
16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

So if, by their nature, they keep God's Commandments because they know who God is and knows that He wants them to be good also, God will know it and will judge them fairly.

These days most people in the world have some access to a Bible.
If they do, and they know the Bible is good, then they need to seek God's Word for themselves... and keep it.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Nobody: 12:28am On Aug 29, 2021
HarunaWest:
Did you even understand his question before reacting. Do read it once more and edit your comments
You are too hasty in quoting people without first comprehending.

How else do you want it explained to you again?

Op, asked if those who died without hearing the gospel will be condemned and he told him that it's not because they didn't hear the gospel that brought condemnation upon them but that mankind as a whole has been long condemned to hell as a result of Adams sin. So it's not lack of knowledge of the gospel now but what Adam did that will determine their end.

In other words, those who died under the curse before Jesus ( who's also the gospel) came will not make it and that was why God had to quickly send his son to redeem us (mankind) from that curse otherwise everyone was doomed for hell.

Thank God for Jesus.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Polynek(m): 12:33am On Aug 29, 2021
The ways of man is not the ways of GOD shaa
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by madegreatbygrace(m): 1:25am On Aug 29, 2021
quote author=Mercychen post=105278047]

You are too hasty in quoting people without first comprehending.

How else do you want it explained to you again?

Op, asked if those who died without hearing the gospel will be condemned and he told him that it's not because they didn't hear the gospel that brought condemnation upon them but that mankind as a whole has been long condemned to hell as a result of Adams sin. So it's not lack of knowledge of the gospel now but what Adam did that will determine their end.

In other words, those who died under the curse before Jesus ( who's also the gospel) came will not make it and that was why God had to quickly send his son to redeem us (mankind) from that curse otherwise everyone was doomed for hell.

Thank God for Jesus.
On what scripture(s) is/are your submission based on?
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Nobody: 1:46am On Aug 29, 2021
madegreatbygrace:
On what scripture(s) is/are your submission based on?
Romans 5:12-21
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.



Here lies your answer.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by madegreatbygrace(m): 2:12am On Aug 29, 2021
quote author=Mercychen post=105278820]

Romans 5:12-21
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.



Here lies your answer.
You’ve not answered the question . How does any of the foregoing substantiate your submission?
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Ayo081(m): 2:52am On Aug 29, 2021
22jumpstreet:
Lol which Bible? So if I forge a story and put it after revelation does it make it the word of God?

That the romans forged a story and several letters written by unknown authors and added them after Malachi, does it make it true?

The heart and soul of the Bible is the Torah. Any thing that does not conform to it IS NOT FROM GOD.
You're funny cheesy

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

Matthew 5:18‭-‬20 NIV

https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.5.17-20.NIV
I doubt if you ever read the bible or Torah sef.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MightySparrow: 3:35am On Aug 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Why can't you say what you know about the topic of discussion?
Are you sure Papa's god has a month at all spiritually speaking? Psalms 115:5 undecided
Because you answer questions directly, subtly dodging questions, no need. I see you are always afraid of truth. Leave me with my understanding.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Idamond(op): 6:31am On Aug 29, 2021
MightySparrow:
Hahuh Your GB's definition of righteousness.
grin
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by xproducer: 7:02am On Aug 29, 2021
"For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel." - Romans 2:12-16

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GOD is perfect and judges perfectly. GOD is also forever merciful and has paid the "ultimate" price to save many people throughout history.

But for the wonderful grace and mercy of GOD... no human being would be saved from death for sin, no human being would have been given eternal life and reconciled to GOD - "for all have sinned" (Romans 3:23) and "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." - Romans 6:23

(Also see Romans 3:9-20)

"Say among the nations, “The Lord reigns; The world also is firmly established, It shall not be moved; He shall judge the peoples righteously.” - Psalm 96:10
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Dtruthspeaker: 7:04am On Aug 29, 2021
Mercychen:
Romans 5:12-21
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
You have misled yourself in interpreting this statement in support of your untrue ground "...that mankind as a whole has been long condemned to hell as a result of Adams sin.".

Romans is only explaining to us the beginning of men sinning.

That since the first man learnt to sin, they sinned, Cain added murdered, Lamech added extra wife, and men began to sins since then.

That's what Romans is just paying respect to, it did not say that because Adam sinned, we are all stained with his sin.

No, it is Against God's Law that "one man's offence will be another man's offence"

Every man commits his own offence and stands charged for them.

If your thinking is so, then you are also guilty of the murders taking place in the North, Afghanistan, all over the world.

If you look at God's Judgements in Genesis 3, you would see the serpent was judged for his own crimes and Adam was judged for his own crime,

Adam was not judged for Satan's crime and neither was Satan judged for Adams crime.

So do take correction!
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Dtruthspeaker: 7:05am On Aug 29, 2021
madegreatbygrace:
You’ve not answered the question . How does any of the foregoing substantiate your submission?
It does not but he did not know!
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Nobody: 7:18am On Aug 29, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
You have misled yourself in interpreting this statement in support of your untrue ground "...that mankind as a whole has been long condemned to hell as a result of Adams sin.".

Romans is only explaining to us the beginning of men sinning.

That since the first man learnt to sin, they sinned, Cain added murdered, Lamech added extra wife, and men began to sins since then.

That's what Romans is just paying respect to, it did not say that because Adam sinned, we are all stained with his sin.

No, it is Against God's Law that "one man's offence will be another man's offence"

Every man commits his own offence and stands charged for them.

If your thinking is so, then you are also guilty of the murders taking place in the North, Afghanistan, all over the world.

If you look at God's Judgements in Genesis 3, you would see the serpent was judged for his own crimes and Adam was judged for his own crime,

Adam was not judged for Satan's crime and neither was Satan judged for Adams crime.

So do take correction!
What about the other parts of this passage from the beginning?
Why did you remove it?

You clearly don't understand this bible passage. Please go and calm down and study it properly in whole not in part please. or get a simplified version for better interpretation and understanding.

In summary, all that passage is saying is by Adams sin all became sin ( even when they knew no sin) and were condemned but by Jesus righteousness all became righteous and we're forgiven and hath eternal life.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by xproducer: 7:26am On Aug 29, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
You have misled yourself in interpreting this statement in support of your untrue ground "...that mankind as a whole has been long condemned to hell as a result of Adams sin.".

Romans is only explaining to us the beginning of men sinning.

That since the first man learnt to sin, they sinned, Cain added murdered, Lamech added extra wife, and men began to sins since then.

That's what Romans is just paying respect to, it did not say that because Adam sinned, we are all stained with his sin.

No, it is Against God's Law that "one man's offence will be another man's offence"

Every man commits his own offence and stands charged for them.

If your thinking is so, then you are also guilty of the murders taking place in the North, Afghanistan, all over the world.

If you look at God's Judgements in Genesis 3, you would see the serpent was judged for his own crimes and Adam was judged for his own crime,

Adam was not judged for Satan's crime and neither was Satan judged for Adams crime.

So do take correction!
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You are incorrect! The word of GOD contains the truth of the matter!

"For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive." - 1 Corinthians 15:21-22

"Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come." - Romans 5:12-14

The "all" in Adam is all humanity, the "all" in the Lord JESUS CHRIST are all that GOD the Father has chosen and made His Own in Himself / the CHRIST.

"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out." - John 6:37
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Dtruthspeaker: 7:46am On Aug 29, 2021
Mercychen:
What about the other parts of this passage from the beginning?
Why did you remove it?
Because I had obtained the relevant portion of it which supported your presentation.

Mercychen:
You clearly don't understand this bible passage. Please go and calm down and study it properly in whole not in part please. or get a simplified version for better interpretation and understanding.
Saying I did not understand the passage is not a rebuttal for if you truly had a good rebuttal to give, you would have done so, but because you do not have any, you now attacked me (Fall of Ad hominem) rather than my response.

So this is rather a clear sign that you in truth, did not understand earlier, as evidenced by your repetition of what has been removed which you could not re-remove (rebut).

Do take correction! The sin of one person is not impugned on another person eg Aaron and. the sinning people of Israel over the golden calf case; Saul and Jonathan: Moses and the people of Israel.

From the beginning of the Bible to the end of it NO WHERE DO YOU SEE ANY PERSON BEING PUNISHED FOR THE CRIME COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONE WOULD YOU FIND!

So you speak untruly!
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Dtruthspeaker:
xproducer:
You are incorrect! The word of GOD contains the truth of the matter!

"For since by man [b]came death, - 1 Corinthians 15:21-22
Look at your highlight, is it not specific in explaining the [b]origin of death and not the origin of Personal Liability (Criminal Responsibility)?

My contention with him is based on Personal Liability and Criminal Responsibility, the fact of which he and now you are overstretching that passage to include Criminal Vicarious Liability which is not True, FOR GOD HAS NEVER JUDGED ANYONE FOR THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONCE!

So, if you are standing on this, then you have fallen for there is No Ground there at all.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03am On Aug 29, 2021
Someone asked a question expecting to here Bible students share what they know:

"Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel?"
Everyone came sharing what they've got just as Jesus said:

A good man brings good out of the good treasure of his heart, but a wicked man brings what is wicked out of his wicked treasure; for out of the heart’s abundance his mouth speaks. Luke 6:45

Of course each is speaking according to what they've read, heard, seen, taught and convinced to believed. You (ọmọ Oyedepo) remain silent because there's nothing in the head of your Papa to share. But immediately you saw my own understanding you responded:

MightySparrow:
Hahuh Your GB's definition of righteousness.
And later you said:


MightySparrow:
Leave me with my understanding.
What is your understanding if not emptiness as the god of your Papa is spiritually deaf so you and your Papa also! undecided

Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat.The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them! Psalms 115:4-8
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Dtruthspeaker: 8:04am On Aug 29, 2021
xproducer:
You are incorrect! The word of GOD contains the truth of the matter!

"For since by man [b]came death,[b] - 1 Corinthians 15:21-22
Look at your highlight, is it not specific in explaining the origin of death and not the origin of Personal Liability (Criminal Responsibility)?

My contention with him is based on the fact that he and now you are overstretching that passage to include Criminal Vicarious Liability which is not True, FOR GOD HAS NEVER JUDGED ANYONE FOR THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONCE!

So, if you are standing on this, then you have fallen for there is No Ground there at all.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by truespeak: 8:29am On Aug 29, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
Because I had obtained the relevant portion of it which supported your presentation.



Saying I did not understand the passage is not a rebuttal for if you truly had a good rebuttal to give, you would have done so, but because you do not have any, you now attacked me (Fall of Ad hominem) rather than my response.

So this is rather a clear sign that you in truth, did not understand earlier, as evidenced by your repetition of what has been removed which you could not re-remove (rebut).

Do take correction! The sin of one person is not impugned on another person eg Aaron and. the sinning people of Israel over the golden calf case; Saul and Jonathan: Moses and the people of Israel.

From the beginning of the Bible to the end of it NO WHERE DO YOU SEE ANY PERSON BEING PUNISHED FOR THE CRIME COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONE WOULD YOU FIND!

So you speak untruly!
it has been written since the beginning, that "all men shall shall be judged by THEIR OWN DEEDS and Not by the Doings of Another Person"!
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Nobody: 9:14am On Aug 29, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
Because I had obtained the relevant portion of it which supported your presentation.



Saying I did not understand the passage is not a rebuttal for if you truly had a good rebuttal to give, you would have done so, but because you do not have any, you now attacked me (Fall of Ad hominem) rather than my response.

So this is rather a clear sign that you in truth, did not understand earlier, as evidenced by your repetition of what has been removed which you could not re-remove (rebut).

Do take correction! The sin of one person is not impugned on another person eg Aaron and. the sinning people of Israel over the golden calf case; Saul and Jonathan: Moses and the people of Israel.

From the beginning of the Bible to the end of it NO WHERE DO YOU SEE ANY PERSON BEING PUNISHED FOR THE CRIME COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONE WOULD YOU FIND!

So you speak untruly!
I don't argue the word of God neither do I add or remove from the word of God just to suit my claims.

Shalom.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MightySparrow: 9:26am On Aug 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Someone asked a question expecting to here Bible students share what they know:

"Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel?"
Everyone came sharing what they've got just as Jesus said:

A good man brings good out of the good treasure of his heart, but a wicked man brings what is wicked out of his wicked treasure; for out of the heart’s abundance his mouth speaks. Luke 6:45

Of course each is speaking according to what they've read, heard, seen, taught and convinced to believed. You (ọmọ Oyedepo) remain silent because there's nothing in the head of your Papa to share. But immediately you saw my own understanding you responded:



And later you said:




What is your understanding if not emptiness as the god of your Papa is spiritually deaf so you and your Papa also! undecided

Their idols are silver and gold, The work of human hands. A mouth they have, but they cannot speak; Eyes, but they cannot see; Ears they have, but they cannot hear; A nose, but they cannot smell; Hands they have, but they cannot feel; Feet, but they cannot walk; They make no sound with their throat.The people who make them will become just like them, As will all those who trust in them! Psalms 115:4-8
No problem friend. The interpretations of your GB fifty years ago is no longer consistent with the ' New Light' of today because scriptures were read ' out of context'. The nonsense you are so sure of and peddle now will be overtaken by ' current light' in fifty years to come.

What substance has JWs contributed to Christian faith than confusion with the colouration of JWs.

The problem of people like you who should know by your exposure is that like most people follow pattern like those entangled in the sin of Jeroboam son of Nebat.

Don't bother to qoute rrelevant scriptures as usual.
Peace.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by obonujoker(m): 10:42am On Aug 29, 2021
Abraham faith was accounted to him as righteousness...

Death will be the last enemy of man to be defeated and destroyed in the lake of fire
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:53am On Aug 29, 2021
Your problem is inability to see how empty-headed you and your Papa are in the face of Biblical topic! smiley

MightySparrow:
No problem friend. The interpretations of your GB fifty years ago is no longer consistent with the ' New Light' of today because scriptures were read ' out of context'. The nonsense you are so sure of and peddle now will be overtaken by ' current light' in fifty years to come.
What substance has JWs contributed to Christian faith than confusion with the colouration of JWs.
The problem of people like you who should know by your exposure is that like most people follow pattern like those entangled in the sin of Jeroboam son of Nebat.
Don't bother to qoute rrelevant scriptures as usual.
Peace.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MightySparrow: 12:58pm On Aug 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Your problem is inability to see how empty-headed you and your Papa are in the face of Biblical topic! smiley
Your problem is inability to see how your GB is using human thinking to interprete the scriptures leading lazy people like you that cannot research on their own astray.
You talk about spirituality, if your organisation understand spirituality, why are you people doing charms? Your God is not enough? the
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:03pm On Aug 29, 2021
MightySparrow:
Your problem is inability to see how your GB is using human thinking to interprete the scriptures leading lazy people like you that cannot research on their own astray.
You talk about spirituality, if your organisation understand spirituality, why are you people doing charms? Your God is not enough? the
Inability to Interpret yet JWs are always the first to talk about the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what is WRITTEN in God's word while you and your Papa are tossed about with political affairs.
So JWs do charms yet they're the only group that can boast of ONENESS IN THOUGHT, now i know you're totally confused!
You don't even know that demons are the powers behind charms so how do you think demons (fallen angels) can successfully unite people from different races under one umbrella? cheesy
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by OtemAtum: 2:14pm On Aug 29, 2021
Idamond:
What will happens to those people who dead without hearing the Gospel?
what will be the faith of those people.
God Almighty, the creator of Jehovah and Allah doesn't condemn anybody, whether you have heard of Sango before or not doesn't matter. God is the Totality of Existence.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by xproducer: 3:36pm On Aug 29, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
Look at your highlight, is it not specific in explaining the origin of death and not the origin of Personal Liability (Criminal Responsibility)?

My contention with him is based on the fact that he and now you are overstretching that passage to include Criminal Vicarious Liability which is not True, FOR GOD HAS NEVER JUDGED ANYONE FOR THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT EVEN ONCE!

So, if you are standing on this, then you have fallen for there is No Ground there at all.
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It appears that you are either not reading the Holy Bible, or not understanding... just uttering what you think you know, which doesn't help you or anyone.

"The Lord is longsuffering and abundant in mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression; but He by no means clears the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation." - Numbers 14:18

Also consider Deuteronomy 5:8-9 (apparently generational consequences for idolatry previously committed)!

Ultimately, GOD is the perfect Creator, Judge and Justifier of all.
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Dtruthspeaker: 4:12pm On Aug 29, 2021
xproducer:
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It appears that you are either not reading the Holy Bible, or not understanding... just uttering what you think you know, which doesn't help you or anyone.

"The Lord is longsuffering and abundant in mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression; but He by no means clears the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation." - Numbers 14:18

Also consider Deuteronomy 5:8-9 (apparently generational consequences for idolatry previously committed)!

Ultimately, GOD is the perfect Creator, Judge and Justifier of all.
And in the end you did not say any thing connected to the topic for we are talking about sin and personal responsibility for sinning and you have gone off the wheel.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE CASE IN THE BIBLE WHERE A PERSON WAS JUDGED AND CONVICTED BY GOD FOR THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ANOTHER PERSON.

NOT ONE!
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by MightySparrow: 6:26pm On Aug 29, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Inability to Interpret yet JWs are always the first to talk about the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what is WRITTEN in God's word while you and your Papa are tossed about with political affairs.
So JWs do charms yet they're the only group that can boast of ONENESS IN THOUGHT, now i know you're totally confused!
You don't even know that demons are the powers behind charms so how do you think demons (fallen angels) can successfully unite people from different races under one umbrella? cheesy
Lame excuses: Catholic of over 1 billion worshippes of more than two thousand years are not united. Is it JWsof less than 150 years that are more united. This shows you are totally indoctrinated and cannot see anything or think on your own. The whole of JWs are not up to one - tenth of Catholics in a nation. You are living in self delusion.

Wake up from mental slavery. My Papa allows me to think, research, take my decision. Your GB has tamed your reasoning faculty. Braak loose from mental cage and be free!!!!!!!!
Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by Hismasterpiece(m): 6:53pm On Aug 29, 2021
Humanoid01:
I have three questions from your comment, can you kindly answer them?

1. What is the point existing in the first place if I'm going to cease to exist in the end?

2. If ceasing to exist will be my “punishment” for not believing in God or the gospel through Jesus Christ, then why do I need to bother to believe?

3. If I cease to exist, then what difference would it make since at the end, there will be no consciousness of the consequences of my sins?
Don't bother with this guy. He doesn't understand the Bible.
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