₦airaland Forum

[quote author=Bishopkingsley post=105423237]If God appears to you now
Will you believe him? [/quote/]
Your bro above said I should leave you ppl alone.

bobestman:
Chai!
I already said I will stop. You trying to force things out of my mouth that you will never believe. Precious things aren't giving to strangers

The only way you can understand the things of God is when you read the Bible especially the new testaments Bible

[quote author=bobestman post=105434829][/quote]He is not my brother he is on his own he does not believe that Jesus is God Almighty

While I believe that Jesus is God Almighty

Nancy2020:
who is Hashem

Jewish name for the creator of heaven and earth...

22jumpstreet:
Jewish name for the creator of heaven and earth...

God created every language do you think he won't put his name in all the language he created.
God doesn't have only one name he has many in each tribe.
That is why you can't put God in a cage and say this is only his name.
That wrong call him by his popular name in English if you communicate in English.

bobestman:
The same way ppl fabricate names to call the Creator and his son is the same way the Vatican fabricated the name of the Messiah to Jesus all you Christians ignorantly call today. Cos you all see visions and apparitions with it... it is Ok in your eyes. Non of you have any knowledge where it was all corrupted from. You are calling this one Occultic and even your fellow Churchians but don't know that you all are in the same mess.

The name of Jesus was spoken of in the old testament Torah

Bishopkingsley:
The name of Jesus was spoken of in the old testament Torah

Lol... only your Churchian friends will agree with you. He was called praise names and their was nothing like Jesus there. I can tell you his name ppl prayed with even with references in the Torah and NT. I can tell you another of his names that occur both in the bibles and in your African tongues. Jesus was added to bible when the Romans took power - And you knew what the Romans did to the Hebrews.... how they changed his laws, his name, time, seasons and gave you their supreme god.
This world will be destroyed not cos their are not ppl who turned from evil but cos of they allowed themselves be decieved by the devil who rule this world via religion, politics etc - Rev 12:9. Many and all religions believe the lies of the gods that rule this world. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Knowledge tells you to seek for what is the truth and follow it but Ignorance tells you to just believe what they told you or put in the book for you - Hosea 4:6

I Maccabees 3:48
And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.

52. And lo the heathen are assembled against us to destroy us
They formed a crafty counsel (Psalm83) to keep the true people of the book (us) from our heritage, culture and our Father thru propaganda, deception and systematic racism (white supremacy)

That's how they decieved fools like you Christians. It was all your stories. The Messiah was a real ancient man. A real Blackman. If your Jesus you see was a white man, you are decieved. You all are in a Matrix controlled by them cos you are in their religions

bobestman:
Lol... only your Churchian friends will agree with you. He was called praise names and their was nothing like Jesus there. I can tell you his name ppl prayed with even with references in the Torah and NT. I can tell you another of his names that occur both in the bibles and in your African tongues. Jesus was added to bible when the Romans took power - And you knew what the Romans did to the Hebrews.... how they changed his laws, his name, time, seasons and gave you their supreme god.
This world will be destroyed not cos their are not ppl who turned from evil but cos of they allowed themselves be decieved by the devil who rule this world via religion, politics etc - Rev 12:9. Many and all religions believe the lies of the gods that rule this world. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Knowledge tells you to seek for what is the truth and follow it but Ignorance tells you to just believe what they told you or put in the book for you - Hosea 4:6

I Maccabees 3:48
And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.

52. And lo the heathen are assembled against us to destroy us
They formed a crafty counsel (Psalm83) to keep the true people of the book (us) from our heritage, culture and our Father thru propaganda, deception and systematic racism (white supremacy)

That's how they decieved fools like you Christians. It was all your stories. The Messiah was a real ancient man. A real Blackman. If your Jesus you see was a white man, you are decieved. You all are in a Matrix controlled by them cos you are in their religions

Maccabees is not in penticostal Bible it only in catholic Bible that is a different topic


Do you know the meaning of Jesus

Bishopkingsley:
Maccabees is not in penticostal Bible it only in catholic Bible that is a different topic


Do you know the meaning of Jesus

Why do you always think like a kid. Many things you believe were just told you and as a sheep you foolishly believe without researching. The reference on Maccabees was one of the reasons they removed the book from your Bible. It exposes their plan of turning everything which was black including the image of the Messiah which was black to white. They repainted his image and turned the whole stories in the book of the law. That is why they call that era dark ages. This what I am telling you Christians. The true Messiah was a Blackman and was never called Jesus. You ppl see Jesus in your dreams and also see him as a White Sisi with long hairs and blue eyes. Sorry Jesus has no meaning. It was a fabricated name those who hate and your brother (the true Messiah) gave him to act as the true Messiah.
Je has no meaning
Sus has no meaning. Together no meaning
Ihe is light
Chi is God
Uwa is world
IhechiUwa is light of God to the world. One of the names he called himself in the bible
Yahusha though a Paleo Hebrew still sounds like IhechiUwa and means God saves or salvation. Your Jesus is not close to any name. It has no meaning
Your brother said I should leave you Christians with the name which I agreed but you keep going back to the matter. Don't let me expose your Greek god cos I still have many things I have not said. As long as you use that name, they control your mind

bobestman:
Why do you always think like a kid. Many things you believe were just told you and as a sheep you foolishly believe without researching. The reference on Maccabees was one of the reasons they removed the book from your Bible. It exposes their plan of turning everything which was black including the image of the Messiah which was black to white. They repainted his image and turned the whole stories in the book of the law. This what I am telling you Christians. The true Messiah was a Blackman and was never called Jesus. You ppl see Jesus in your dreams and also see him as a White Sisi with long hairs and blue eyes. Sorry Jesus has no meaning. It was a fabricated name his enemies gave him to act as the true Messiah.
Je has no meaning
Sus has no meaning. Together no meaning
Ihe is light
Chi is God
Uwa is world
IhechiUwa is light of God to the world. One of the names he called himself in the bible
Yahusha though a Paleo Hebrew still sounds like IhechiUwa and means God saves or salvation. Your Jesus is not close to any name. It has no meaning
Your brother said I should leave you Christians with the name which I agreed but you keep going back to the matter. Don't let me expose your Greek god cos I still have many things I have not said

No one cares about the color of Jesus
Black or white it does not matter

My aim is to bring you to know Jesus not to talk about history you said it not real and I want to show you it real

What I asked you before was that thing you believe have you seen it you did not answer it

Now I want to show you what I believe so you can see it that is how to believe something

If you believe Torah that means you believe God now let me ask you again have you seen God

Bishopkingsley:
No one cares about the color of Jesus
Black or white it does not matter

My aim is to bring you to know Jesus not to talk about history you said it not real and I want to show you it real

What I asked you before was that thing you believe have you seen it you did not answer it

Now I want to show you what I believe so you can see it that is how to believe something

If you believe Torah that means you believe God now let me ask you again have you seen God

You don't care to know. You don't want to find out. Your Bible says if you reject knowledge, you will be rejected. Knowledge is finding out the truth cos it's the truth that will set you free. You don't care and that is why you are decieved
Sorry you are decieved and indoctrinated. You don't know who the true Son is and you want to talk about the Father. Go take your meds and go to bed.

bobestman:
You don't care to know. You don't want to find out. Your Bible says if you reject knowledge, you will be rejected. Knowledge is finding out the truth cos it's the truth that will set you free. You don't care and that is why you are decieved
Sorry you are decieved and indoctrinated. You don't know who the true Son is and you want to talk about the Father. Go take your meds and go to bed.

The reason I said color don't matter is because I am not racist it doesn't remove anything if Jesus was black or white

And now

We are discussing and you seem to be abusive about it

I did not expect that from you
No problem if you don't want my discussion

Bishopkingsley:
The reason I said color don't matter is because I am not racist it doesn't remove anything if Jesus was black or white

And now

We are discussing and you seem to be abusive about it

I did not expect that from you
No problem if you don't want my discussion

Color matters cos the Messiah was from your race and they hated that race then and it's still suffering and plundered. His appearing is to save that race which are his people. The powers that be knows this. That's why they are using everything (GMOs foods, diseases, pestilence, Covid 19 and many more to make sure Africa is reduced). The major Agenda of those ppl who control ignorants ppl like you Christians is to depopulate Africa. This is very glaring and many of you think they love you and that color dont matter. The Messiah and his people were black men which is why they hated them and kill them like thieves via hanging and other death equipment. Things they did to your ancestors in your own land is also very glaring but you ppl say color doesn't matter. Am I not right if I even insult ignorant ppl like you Christians? They hate you cos of your color and had been killing your ancestors since time immemorial and you say color doesn't matter.

It was clearly written that the Messiah shall save his people (first) from their sin and their bondage from the Pink men. This what I told you that he will first gather his ppl from the corners of the earth to their land( their salvation) and save them from the hands of the Pink men and deal with their enemies. This is what it means to save his people, to gather the outcast of the house of Isreal. It is all about his people first then some of them will go out to preach the true message or gospel to save anyone who cares to hear. Many things I tell you are very glaring with scriptures but you ppl chose to follow what the Vatican gave you. You ppl have no respect for your ancestors upon all that is done to them by the ppl you glorify. You even worship their gods ignorantly and brag you are right or doing the right thing. You ppl deserve that insults and if the Messiah were to come back, he will use more stronger whips to wipe out that brainwashing from your brains

Am not insulting you. You ppl need the rod of Correction if you will even understand. It's a wake up call. Your ignorance is pissing me off cos I know what I telling you.

bobestman:
Color matters cos the Messiah was from your race and they hated that race then and it's still suffering and plundered. His appearing is to save that race which are his people. The powers that be knows this. That's why they are using everything (GMOs foods, diseases, pestilence, Covid 19 and many more to make sure Africa is reduced). The major Agenda of those ppl who control ignorants ppl like you Christians is to depopulate Africa. This is very glaring and many of you think they love you and that color dont matter. The Messiah and his people were black men which is why they hated them and kill them like thieves via hanging and other death equipment. Things they did to your ancestors in your own land is also very glaring but you ppl say color doesn't matter. Am I not right if I even insult ignorant ppl like you Christians? They hate you cos of your color and had been killing your ancestors since time immemorial and you say color doesn't matter.

It was clearly written that the Messiah shall save his people (first) from their sin and their bondage from the Pink men. This what I told you that he will first gather his ppl from the corners of the earth to their land( their salvation) and save them from the hands of the Pink men and deal with their enemies. This is what it means to save his people, to gather the outcast of the house of Isreal. It is all about his people first then some of them will go out to preach the true message or gospel to save anyone who cares to hear. Many things I tell you are very glaring with scriptures but you ppl chose to follow what the Vatican gave you. You ppl have no respect for your ancestors upon all that is done to them by the ppl you glorify. You even worship their gods ignorantly and brag you are right or doing the right thing. You ppl deserve that insults and if the Messiah were to come back, he will use more stronger whips to wipe out that brainwashing from your brains

Am not insulting you. You ppl need the rod of Correction if you will even understand. It's a wake up call. Your ignorance is pissing me off cos I know what I telling you.

The only way communication can go on is you have to stop abusive words am not your wife or slave that you can insult

I work in an orderly manner and respectful procedure

Bishopkingsley:
The only way communication can go on is you have to stop abusive words am not your wife or slave that you can insult

I work in an orderly manner and respectful procedure

Lol. It's not insult but a wake up call to make you think. Hebrews don't massage ignorance. They tell you the truth to your face unlike Christians who will be begging you to believe them. We know what we tell you cos salvation comes from the Hebrews. You are the one decieved. Don't force your false Messiah on me. God/god/Jesus/lord are all names of Baal the deciever. You all are already decieved. Will show you with scriptures later

bobestman:
Lol. It's not insult but a wake up call to make you think. Hebrews don't massage ignorance. They tell you the truth to your face unlike Christians who will be begging you to believe them. We know what we tell you cos salvation comes from the Hebrews. You are the one decieved. Don't force your false Messiah on me. God/god/Jesus/lord are all names of Baal the deciever. You all are already decieved. Will show you with scriptures later

Question
unlike Christians who will be begging you to believe them.

Answer
Matthew 10:14 ►
New International Version
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

New Living Translation
If any household or town refuses to welcome you or listen to your message, shake its dust from your feet as you leave.

We don't beg people to recieve Jesus
We don't force people

If you want eternal life come to Jesus by your own free will

Bishopkingsley:
Question
unlike Christians who will be begging you to believe them.

Answer
Matthew 10:14 ►
New International Version
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

New Living Translation
If any household or town refuses to welcome you or listen to your message, shake its dust from your feet as you leave.

We don't beg people to recieve Jesus
We don't force people

If you want eternal life come to Jesus by your own free will

Lol that's what the true Messiah said not Jesus. But many of you don't do it even on Nairaland. You will keep arguing till you start insulting yourselves. The true Messiah also said Prayer should be in your homes with even doors shut. He even rebuke those trying to intimidate people with their prayers. He even did all his prayers secretly where no one sees him. You Christians have a Church with loudspeaker and shout your prayers to the high heavens as if Sovereign Father were deaf. You disturb ppl with your prayers and if they insult or arrest you, you will say they are persecuting you. Is that not Ignorance?

Listen, their are 2 Messiah's
The Hebrew Messiah who taught Righteous and Holy living to anyone who listen. He never told you ppl to open a circus center where they rub people of their hard earned money thru tithes and offering not given to you but to Levites by bloodline. He never accept titles or told his followers to do so. He came to do his Father's will and never abolished his Father's commands. He only abrogated some of them and many more

Jesus was created by the Vatican who find the true Messiah's teachings too hard to keep. They murdered the true Messiah and change his above teachings in the later part of the gospel books and Epistles. They said he gave them a new commandments that the true Father's own is old. They created churches where you must go to worship before you can make heaven and where they easily rob people of their hard earned money. Jesus teachings were against what the true Messiah taught that I discussed above. You can clearly see their is a huge difference between what the true Messiah taught and what they said Jesus taught after the true Messiah was killed. It's very clear. The true Messiah put his Father above him in everything. He said he came only to do his Father's will. He never brag that he is equal to the father. He was the first Son. Archangel. He was created by the Father and mother. So his Father is above him in everything. In the Epistles they equally told you that Jesus was the father. They put many reference to support that and you also teach it. You are not wiser than these people. Remember also that the devil was also a son. He rebelled and fell. They control all religions with their lies

There were 2 Messiah in the new testament. The one added by the Vatican is the fake. He is Jesus the heist. He is the one spoken of in 2 These 2. He will decieve the world with false miracles and decieve ppl like you ignorant Christians. He was revealed when the true Messiah was killed. The true Messiah said he came in his father's name (Yahusha is the Father's salvation. It's Paleo Hebrew but correct) and many don't believe him but that another will come in his own name (Jesus. The Father's name is not there) and many of you will believe -John 5:43. The Messiah was killed with his disciples by the Vatican and rebel Jews, they later told you he died for your sins. They put him in place of the true Messiah in the bible and told you he is the true Messiah (deception). Fools don't know that the same ppl who killed the true Messiah later told you he died for you and took him as their saviour. Created the wrong images to decieve you all. They changed his laws which was too hard for them (Daniel 7:25). The Vatican control the world calenderand the names of the weeks and days are named after their demons. Didn't the Father said don't remove or add to his word since the Torah days (Deutronomy 12:32). Don't add or subtract from his word. The Vatican did and that lies you all sheepishly believe. If you don't come out from religion, you are decieved. They created it and the Messiah didn't create any neither did the father. Come out from them and be separate so the the truth will come to you.

bobestman:
Lol that's what the true Messiah said not Jesus. But many of you don't do it even on Nairaland. You will keep arguing till you start insulting yourselves. The true Messiah also said Prayer should be in your homes with even doors shut. He even rebuke those trying to intimidate people with their prayers. He even did all his prayers secretly where no one sees him. You Christians have a Church with loudspeaker and shout your prayers to the high heavens as if Sovereign Father were deaf. You disturb ppl with your prayers and if they insult or arrest you, you will say they are persecuting you. Is that not Ignorance?

Listen, their are 2 Messiah's
The Hebrew Messiah who taught Righteous and Holy living to anyone who listen. He never told you ppl to open a circus center where they rub people of their hard earned money thru tithes and offering not given to you but to Levites by bloodline. He never accept titles or told his followers to do so. He came to do his Father's will and never abolished his Father's commands. He only abrogated some of them and many more

Jesus was created by the Vatican who find the true Messiah's teachings too hard to keep. They murdered the true Messiah and change his above teachings in the later part of the gospel books and Epistles. They said he gave them a new commandments that the true Father's own is old. They created churches where you must go to worship before you can make heaven and where they easily rob people of their hard earned money. Jesus teachings were against what the true Messiah taught that I discussed above. You can clearly see their is a huge difference between what the true Messiah taught and what they said Jesus taught after the true Messiah was killed. It's very clear. The true Messiah put his Father above him in everything. He said he came only to do his Father's will. He never brag that he is equal to the father. He was the first Son. Archangel. He was created by the Father and mother. So his Father is above him in everything. In the Epistles they equally told you that Jesus was the father. They put many reference to support that and you also teach it. You are not wiser than these people. Remember also that the devil was also a son. He rebelled and fell. They control all religions with their lies

There were 2 Messiah in the new testament. The one added by the Vatican is the fake. He is Jesus the heist. He is the one spoken of in 2 These 2. He will decieve the world with false miracles and decieve ppl like you ignorant Christians. He was revealed when the true Messiah was killed. The true Messiah said he came in his father's name (Yahusha is the Father's salvation. It's Paleo Hebrew but correct) and many don't believe him but that another will come in his own name (Jesus. The Father's name is not there) and many of you will believe -John 5:43. The Messiah was killed with his disciples by the Vatican and rebel Jews, they later told you he died for your sins. They put him in place of the true Messiah in the bible and told you he is the true Messiah (deception). Fools don't know that the same ppl who killed the true Messiah later told you he died for you and took him as their saviour. Created the wrong images to decieve you all. They changed his laws which was too hard for them (Daniel 7:25). The Vatican control the world calenderand the names of the weeks and days are named after their demons. Didn't the Father said don't remove or add to his word since the Torah days (Deutronomy 12:32). Don't add or subtract from his word. The Vatican did and that lies you all sheepishly believe. If you don't come out from religion, you are decieved. They created it and the Messiah didn't create any neither did the father. Come out from them and be separate so the the truth will come to you.

Question
You will keep arguing till you start insulting yourselves.

Answer
You can see I have never insulted you here because am a matured person insult are for kids


Question
You Christians have a Church with loudspeaker and shout your prayers to the high heavens as if Sovereign Father were deaf.

Answer
Private prayer is different from church prayer
The day of penticost holy spirit came to the church like a mighty rushing wind there was so much noise that day
Besides God commanded Isreal to shout till the wall of Jericho fell down
Paul church were good in noise prayer he only ask them to do it with one person leading the prayer so there will be order

Giving money to church is not by force so there are other churches who don't force you to give tithe like catholic and Co
So it not by force to go to those who want tithe
God wants his children to be rich don't be jealous of it

Question
The true Messiah put his Father above him in everything. He said he came only to do his Father's will. He never brag that he is equal to the father. He was the first Son. Archangel. He was created by the Father and mother.

Answer
That is evil to say that because you only pick one side of Jesus
Jesus equally said if you see me you have seen Jehovah
Jehovah is in me and I am in Jehovah so when you read the Bible read it properly and don't get only one part
Jesus spit on the ground and made and new eyes for a person only God can do that
Old testament said Jehovah is the Savior
New testaments said Jesus is the Savior
This shows Jehovah is Jesus in the flesh body form it not by force to believe this simple truth


Question
the devil was also a son. He rebelled and fell. They control all religions with their lies

Answer
The devil was not a son he was only an angel Bible said God does not trust his angels and put no faith in them God watches them to make sure they don't do errors in their work so ignorance is bad Jesus is not Angel no angel can be a Savior as Jehovah only Jehovah in body form can be a Savior

Question
Fools don't know

Answer
If I had seen this I won't have replied you watch your tongue only small boys hide behind the keyboard to abuse

Bishopkingsley:
Question
You will keep arguing till you start insulting yourselves.

Answer
You can see I have never insulted you here because am a matured person insult are for kids


Question
You Christians have a Church with loudspeaker and shout your prayers to the high heavens as if Sovereign Father were deaf.

Answer
Private prayer is different from church prayer
The day of penticost holy spirit came to the church like a mighty rushing wind there was so much noise that day
Besides God commanded Isreal to shout till the wall of Jericho fell down
Paul church were good in noise prayer he only ask them to do it with one person leading the prayer so there will be order

Giving money to church is not by force so there are other churches who don't force you to give tithe like catholic and Co
So it not by force to go to those who want tithe
God wants his children to be rich don't be jealous of it

Question
The true Messiah put his Father above him in everything. He said he came only to do his Father's will. He never brag that he is equal to the father. He was the first Son. Archangel. He was created by the Father and mother.

Answer
That is evil to say that because you only pick one side of Jesus
Jesus equally said if you see me you have seen Jehovah
Jehovah is in me and I am in Jehovah so when you read the Bible read it properly and don't get only one part
Jesus spit on the ground and made and new eyes for a person only God can do that
Old testament said Jehovah is the Savior
New testaments said Jesus is the Savior
This shows Jehovah is Jesus in the flesh body form it not by force to believe this simple truth


Question
the devil was also a son. He rebelled and fell. They control all religions with their lies

Answer
The devil was not a son he was only an angel Bible said God does not trust his angels and put no faith in them God watches them to make sure they don't do errors in their work so ignorance is bad Jesus is not Angel no angel can be a Savior as Jehovah only Jehovah in body form can be a Savior

Question
Fools don't know

Answer
If I had seen this I won't have replied you watch your tongue only small boys hide behind the keyboard to abuse

1. Lol you don't insult but you call your fellow Christians occultic and different names cos you think you know better. Not everything you see in the bible is true. Many things are the words of Catholic Popes. They are atimes more accurate than you.
2.Those things were all about the chosen people and they have their Creator in their midst not Jesus that decieved you Christians. Did the Messiah commanded them to do such? He told ppl not to pray where they are seen. That prayer should be secret whether in the synagogue or private. Where is the orderliness when you pray and everyone is hearing you and you are all yelling and making noise? Jesus may have told you ppl that but the true Messiah taught that prayer wherever it is done must be secret cos the CREATOR is Secret(Spirit). He is everywhere

3. You are wrong! The true Messiah taught with a lot of wise sayings and you know that is common in Africa where he is from. In Igbo we have a proverb for that. Anyone who sees the father has seen the son. Many African countries has a proverb for that. The scriptures was also written with a lot of wise sayings. It doesn't mean that the son is the father in flesh. In heaven they are 2 different entities. He has the spirit of the Father that is how he know things and commune with the Father. It's is same spirit we have as sons also which enable us to commune with the Father. He sat on the Father's feet daily learning. On earth, he only started doing things when the Father's spirit came on him. He said without his father he can't do anything. The true Messiah is not the father in flesh. The Father can't leave the throne and come to earth in the flesh of him. It is the spirit of the Father he has that moves him. The Messiah existed as the Word of the Father in the Torah and they even prayers with the word not Jesus. In the NT that word was made flesh and lived among us. It wasnt the flesh of the Father but the son. The Messiah was not the father in flesh. Take that to your bank.

4. The devil was a Sun/Son/light. All spirits and angels were. We human were also suns/sons/light of the Father both in the spirit realm on earth on earth. We existed there before coming to earth. The Messiah was the beloved or first beggoten of the Father. First light. First Angel -Archangel. He was created by the Father - the first thing created. The Father is miles above him. The devil was also among the Sons of the Father who visited Job. "When the Sons of the Creator Sang" hope you know that verse. They were great in singing. The devil was once a Son and so we too are but the Messiah was the first of all.

Never try to teach a Hebrew man. You are a Churchian- those they gave the wrong stories. There are many things I can teach you in the scriptures that you never have heard before.

5. Lol. I didn't call you a fool but your ignorant Churchians. They are teaching what they don't know. They are propagating the wrong gospel. Salvation is of the Hebrews. And the showdown begins at endtime-soon. There are many things you ppl don't know.

We can't continue this cos your Jesus is the impostor Messiah. The son of gog/God/god. The lawless man of 2 Thess 2. Who sit as the Father decieving the world with lying signs and wonders. He will decieve the world with religion untill the true Messiah comes to take him out. That verse is fulfilling but many of you don't know. I can't be telling you about the true Messiah and you are calling him Jesus the son of Gog/god/God. God was added to the scriptures just like Jesus upon agreement by those who rule the word. The God/God of the world control this world with his son. They imitated everything about the Almighty Creator on earth.

bobestman:
1. Lol you don't insult but you call your fellow Christians occultic and different names cos you think you know better. Not everything you see in the bible is true. Many things are the words of Catholic Popes. They are atimes more accurate than you.
2.Those things were all about the chosen people and they have their Creator in their midst not Jesus that decieved you Christians. Did the Messiah commanded them to do such? He told ppl not to pray where they are seen. That prayer should be secret whether in the synagogue or private. Where is the orderliness when you pray and everyone is hearing you and you are all yelling and making noise? Jesus may have told you ppl that but the true Messiah taught that prayer wherever it is done must be secret cos the CREATOR is Secret(Spirit). He is everywhere

3. You are wrong! The true Messiah taught with a lot of wise sayings and you know that is common in Africa where he is from. In Igbo we have a proverb for that. Anyone who sees the father has seen the son. Many African countries has a proverb for that. The scriptures was also written with a lot of wise sayings. It doesn't mean that the son is the father in flesh. In heaven they are 2 different entities. He has the spirit of the Father that is how he know things and commune with the Father. It's is same spirit we have as sons also which enable us to commune with the Father. He sat on the Father's feet daily learning. On earth, he only started doing things when the Father's spirit came on him. He said without his father he can't do anything. The true Messiah is not the father in flesh. The Father can't leave the throne and come to earth in the flesh of him. It is the spirit of the Father he has that moves him. The Messiah existed as the Word of the Father in the Torah and they even prayers with the word not Jesus. In the NT that word was made flesh and lived among us. It wasnt the flesh of the Father but the son. The Messiah was not the father in flesh. Take that to your bank.

4. The devil was a Sun/Son/light. All spirits and angels were. We human were also suns/sons/light of the Father both in the spirit realm on earth on earth. We existed there before coming to earth. The Messiah was the beloved or first beggoten of the Father. First light. First Angel -Archangel. He was created by the Father - the first thing created. The Father is miles above him. The devil was also among the Sons of the Father who visited Job. "When the Sons of the Creator Sang" hope you know that verse. They were great in singing. The devil was once a Son and so we too are but the Messiah was the first of all.

Never try to teach a Hebrew man. You are a Churchian- those they gave the wrong stories. There are many things I can teach you in the scriptures that you never have heard before.

5. Lol. I didn't call you a fool but your ignorant Churchians. They are teaching what they don't know. They are propagating the wrong gospel. Salvation is of the Hebrews. And the showdown begins at endtime-soon. There are many things you ppl don't know.

We can't continue this cos your Jesus is the impostor Messiah. The son of gog/God/god. The lawless man of 2 Thess 2. Who sit as the Father decieving the world with lying signs and wonders. He will decieve the world with religion untill the true Messiah comes to take him out. That verse is fulfilling but many of you don't know. I can't be telling you about the true Messiah and you are calling him Jesus the son of Gog/god/God. God was added to the scriptures just like Jesus upon agreement by those who rule the word. The God/God of the world control this world with his son. They imitated everything about the Almighty Creator on earth.

Question
1. Lol you don't insult but you call your fellow Christians occultic and different names cos you think you know better.

Answer
Are you a Jehovah witness because only them I call occultic because of the way they practice their actions

Question
Messiah taught that prayer wherever it is done must be secret cos the CREATOR is Secret(Spirit)

Answer
I thought I told you that church prayer when holy spirit came to the earth he came like the sound of a mighty rushing wind

Now church prayer is different from church one because Paul said church one should be done at one's liberty and one person should lead the prayer so it not about silence here

Question
It doesn't mean that the son is the father in flesh. In heaven they are 2 different entities. He has the spirit of the Father that is how he know things and commune with the Father.

Answer
You want to interpret the place that Jesus said if you see me you have seen the father

But you don't want to interpret where Jesus said my father is greater than I am

Ask yourself why do I want to interpret one place and leave the other place answer this question why do you want to explain if you see me you have seen Jehovah

Question
The Father can't leave the throne and come to earth in the flesh of him

Answer
Go read old testament to see the number of times Jehovah came to earth in human form should I show you those places too

bobestman:
1. Lol you don't insult but you call your fellow Christians occultic and different names cos you think you know better. Not everything you see in the bible is true. Many things are the words of Catholic Popes. They are atimes more accurate than you.
2.Those things were all about the chosen people and they have their Creator in their midst not Jesus that decieved you Christians. Did the Messiah commanded them to do such? He told ppl not to pray where they are seen. That prayer should be secret whether in the synagogue or private. Where is the orderliness when you pray and everyone is hearing you and you are all yelling and making noise? Jesus may have told you ppl that but the true Messiah taught that prayer wherever it is done must be secret cos the CREATOR is Secret(Spirit). He is everywhere

3. You are wrong! The true Messiah taught with a lot of wise sayings and you know that is common in Africa where he is from. In Igbo we have a proverb for that. Anyone who sees the father has seen the son. Many African countries has a proverb for that. The scriptures was also written with a lot of wise sayings. It doesn't mean that the son is the father in flesh. In heaven they are 2 different entities. He has the spirit of the Father that is how he know things and commune with the Father. It's is same spirit we have as sons also which enable us to commune with the Father. He sat on the Father's feet daily learning. On earth, he only started doing things when the Father's spirit came on him. He said without his father he can't do anything. The true Messiah is not the father in flesh. The Father can't leave the throne and come to earth in the flesh of him. It is the spirit of the Father he has that moves him. The Messiah existed as the Word of the Father in the Torah and they even prayers with the word not Jesus. In the NT that word was made flesh and lived among us. It wasnt the flesh of the Father but the son. The Messiah was not the father in flesh. Take that to your bank.

4. The devil was a Sun/Son/light. All spirits and angels were. We human were also suns/sons/light of the Father both in the spirit realm on earth on earth. We existed there before coming to earth. The Messiah was the beloved or first beggoten of the Father. First light. First Angel -Archangel. He was created by the Father - the first thing created. The Father is miles above him. The devil was also among the Sons of the Father who visited Job. "When the Sons of the Creator Sang" hope you know that verse. They were great in singing. The devil was once a Son and so we too are but the Messiah was the first of all.

Never try to teach a Hebrew man. You are a Churchian- those they gave the wrong stories. There are many things I can teach you in the scriptures that you never have heard before.

5. Lol. I didn't call you a fool but your ignorant Churchians. They are teaching what they don't know. They are propagating the wrong gospel. Salvation is of the Hebrews. And the showdown begins at endtime-soon. There are many things you ppl don't know.

We can't continue this cos your Jesus is the impostor Messiah. The son of gog/God/god. The lawless man of 2 Thess 2. Who sit as the Father decieving the world with lying signs and wonders. He will decieve the world with religion untill the true Messiah comes to take him out. That verse is fulfilling but many of you don't know. I can't be telling you about the true Messiah and you are calling him Jesus the son of Gog/god/God. God was added to the scriptures just like Jesus upon agreement by those who rule the word. The God/God of the world control this world with his son. They imitated everything about the Almighty Creator on earth.

You made so many mistakes on your words Bible shows God don't trust angels so Jesus is not an angel or is not Michael why don't you accept that you are Jehovah witness organization person

You Don't like Jesus and you see why we say JW are a cult look at the way you compare Jesus with Satan because Bible say that angels are sons of God does not mean Satan is like Jesus no

God is both father and son and spirit all together all in all that God is in heaven does not mean he can't be on earth at the same time

You should stop seeing God as a limited being grow up this is a God who can do anything his Word is God his word is what determines what something is you really don't know God if you know God you will not limit God you think God can't be a man that your problem because there is no way to help man if not by God taking the flesh of man to bring man to God and to bring God to man


That why Jehovah said they will call Jesus God with us

Bishopkingsley:
You made so many mistakes on your words Bible shows God don't trust angels so Jesus is not an angel or is not Michael why don't you accept that you are Jehovah witness organization person

You Don't like Jesus and you see why we say JW are a cult look at the way you compare Jesus with Satan because Bible say that angels are sons of God does not mean Satan is like Jesus no

God is both father and son and spirit all together all in all that God is in heaven does not mean he can't be on earth at the same time

You should stop seeing God as a limited being grow up this is a God who can do anything his Word is God his word is what determines what something is you really don't know God if you know God you will not limit God you think God can't be a man that your problem because there is no way to help man if not by God taking the flesh of man to bring man to God and to bring God to man


That why Jehovah said they will call Jesus God with us

You lack knowledge and you brag too much in what you believe. You don't know their origin. I have told you that your Bible is a transliterated work. It was copied from an original work you have never seen or known. All the things there we know better than you Christians. It is our story and we are the origin. We know what they did to our scriptures they copied from to give you bible. Things we tell you, we know scripturally and spiritually cos we are the spiritual choosen people. You Christians are the ones to learn from us not the other way round - Isaiah 44:7. If we don't tell you, you can never understand how it all happened - (John 4:22). If you are truly a wise man, you will research many things I tell you. You can't get all the truth in the bible - it's a plagiarized work. There is no one named Jesus. He was added to that book. He is a god. Your belief in him is why you see the contrary things. He is the god of the world that will decieve the word with lying signs and wonders. He will rule and decieve this world untill the true Messiah comes to put him where he belongs. The world will be decieved before the Messiah comes that even the elects we be among those decieved (Rev 12:9; 13). He is the false lamb that will decieve the ppl before the true Messiah comes. You all are decieved. All your Religions are confusion cos the true Messiah created non. A Hebrew word which means choosen ones or called out ones is what scripture deformers changed to Church. Those He called out will hear him. There is no denomination attached. If you follow denomination, you will be decieved by them. You have his spirit and He will direct you. The true Messiah opposer has turned all he said and is the one in the world acting as the true Messiah. He is one person controlling all your religions but many of you will think He is the true Messiah and the Father you truly talk to. The world will be decieved by him before the true Messiah comes to correct all - ( Rev 12:9)

These things you will know at the right time. No need argueing with you again.

bobestman:
You lack knowledge and you brag too much in what you believe. You don't know their origin. I have told you that your Bible is a transliterated work. It was copied from an original work you have never seen or known. All the things there we know better than you Christians. It is our story and we are the origin. We know what they did to our scriptures they copied from to give you bible. Things we tell you, we know scripturally and spiritually cos we are the spiritual choosen people. You Christians are the ones to learn from us not the other way round - Isaiah 44:7. If we don't tell you, you can never understand how it all happened - (John 4:22). If you are truly a wise man, you will research many things I tell you. You can't get all the truth in the bible - it's a plagiarized work. There is no one named Jesus. He was added to that book. He is a god. Your belief in him is why you see the contrary things. He is the god of the world that will decieve the word with lying signs and wonders. He will rule and decieve this world untill the true Messiah comes to put him where he belongs. The world will be decieved before the Messiah comes that even the elects we be among those decieved (Rev 12:9; 13). He is the false lamb that will decieve the ppl before the true Messiah comes. You all are decieved. All your Religions are confusion cos the true Messiah created non. A Hebrew word which means choosen ones or called out ones is what scripture deformers changed to Church. Those He called out will hear him. There is no denomination attached. If you follow denomination, you will be decieved by them. You have his spirit and He will direct you. The true Messiah opposer has turned all he said and is the one in the world acting as the true Messiah. He is one person controlling all your religions but many of you will think He is the true Messiah and the Father you truly talk to. The world will be decieved by him before the true Messiah comes to correct all - ( Rev 12:9)

These things you will know at the right time. No need argueing with you again.

You said something about igbo
Which shows your a Nigerian so why act like you are a Hebrew or Isreal

Now it does even matter because God does not respect people but he loves his children

Try to understand Jesus is God Almighty because you act like Jehovah witness people who don't believe in Jesus

You see why they are cult they carry the Bible but hate Jesus the same way you hate Jesus

O
Bible is from God and Bible told us that one who hates Jesus is having Antichrist spirit inside him

You are snowing the signs of Antichrist in your words claiming to be from Jehovah's Witnesses side yet refusing to acknowledge Jesus

Bishopkingsley:
You said something about igbo
Which shows your a Nigerian so why act like you are a Hebrew or Isreal

Now it does even matter because God does not respect people but he loves his children

Try to understand Jesus is God Almighty because you act like Jehovah witness people who don't believe in Jesus

You see why they are cult they carry the Bible but hate Jesus the same way you hate Jesus

O
Bible is from God and Bible told us that one who hates Jesus is having Antichrist spirit inside him

You are snowing the signs of Antichrist in your words claiming to be from Jehovah's Witnesses side yet refusing to acknowledge Jesus

Your first paragraph is the reason I said you Christians are blind, lack knowledge and decieved. I can't waste my time explaining anything to you again. Go and research on the things I told you that look strange to you. Truth is very bitter.

bobestman:
You are the one confused bro

*The Father made the pronouncement by His spirit that the Messiah is His Son which shows the Father was in heaven
*The Messiah when he ancended sat on the right hand of the Father which shows another difference between them
*The Messiah asked His Father not to forsake him
*The devil called the Messiah Son
*They existed as Father and Mother before they created a Son
*They were dual before they created the son who made them a Trio or Three
The Son was the first thing created and that's why He pertook in other things created
*The son was the one sent to the earth
*The Son said the Father is greater than Him
*The Son said He came to do the will of the Father
*According to Rev 12 the son was caught up to the throne when the devil want to devour him and his Mother who is also our Mother. This is to tell you that their is a Mother in the trio before a son could come. Without a mother and Father you can't have a son ( this is beyond many Christians understanding)
*The Son existed as the word of the Father in heaven before He was made flesh to dwell on earth by the Father's Spirit and save his people. Evéything in heaven is spirit and without flesh they can't function on earth. This is why the Son have to come thru a woman on earth - Incarnation, Reborn, Rebirth
*The Son clearly stated that He don't know when the Father will end the world which shows that their are many things the Father know that He don't know unless the Father tells Him.
*Can one be a father and a son?
The statement that if you see the son, you have seen the Father is a wise saying or Proverb common in Africa. The scriptures was written with a lot of wise sayings and the Messiah taught with it, that's why you don't understand
*Above all, the Son said without the Father He can't do anything.
Truly the Father can be both in heaven and on earth but everything He wanted to do on earth was given to the son with power and authority. The Son was also a Co-Creator. So the Son did everything on earth with the Father's spirit aiding Him. Same way the Apostles got that Spirit before they could go everywhere and do the same thing the Son did. Without the Spirit one can't do anything. It is the force that moves Him. So you are wrong.
The Son is not the Father in Flesh. It's the Spirit of the Father that moves him that made him know all things

Is all these not enought to debunk the errors you teach?
Or you are seeing another son who claims to be the Father and decieving people with false signs and wonders (2Thess 2)?
My friend, this is the truth. You are the one wrong not the guy.
If you like reject it and continue to argue. Have told you the raw truth

Question
*The Father made the pronouncement by His spirit that the Messiah is His Son which shows the Father was in heaven

Answer
Since you know God is powerful
Do you think he does not have the power to appear in every place that he himself created at the same time

Do you think he created those places and left those places because they are too far from heaven

Do you think he is limited like you and me

I want to understand how you see your own God

How do you think he is going to be in heaven and not be on earth because the place is too far from him

Tell me the answer to this question let me know how you put God in your brain

Who created the sun is the sun too hot for God who created hell fire is the fire to hot for God to be in do you know God is in hell fire too or do you think the hell fire is burning God that that place is too hot for God lol

Who created the bottomless pit do you think God is not in the bottomless pit only a God who has no end can create a bottomless pit

Jesus and Jehovah (or Yahweh) and Jesus as the Word (Logos)

Responses to Jehovah's Witnesses

"As usual, Paul entered there and . . . discussed the Scriptures with them." -- Acts 17:2 (International Study Bible)

Excerpts from email exchange with a Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witness question: Where in Scripture does it say that Jesus is the same as Jehovah?
My answer: Well, take a look at what Jesus said about Himself. Take a look at what was said about Him in Scripture. Here are some Bible passages that indicate Jesus was Yahweh incarnate:
What was Jesus like? Scripture ascribes to Jesus characteristics which only Yahweh Himself can possess.
Preexistence (that means there was no previous point in time or eternity in which He did not exist):
John 1:15,
John 8:58,
John 6:51,
John 3:13,
John 17:5
Divine names and titles:
Matthew 3:3,
Isaiah 40:3 (Mighty God),
Romans 10:13,
Joel 3:32,
John 20:28,
Acts 10:36,
John 1:1 (Word was God),
Romans 9:5,
1 John 5:20
Self-existence (which only God has):
John 2:19,
John 10:17-18,
John 5:26
Eternality or everlastingness (which only God possesses):
John 1:1-2, 17:5, 24,
Hebrews 1:8, 10-12,
1 John 1:2
Omnipresence (which only God possesses): Matthew 18:20, 28:20,
John 3:13,
Ephesians 1:21
Omnipotence (which only God possesses): Matthew 28:18,
Luke 21:15,
John 1:3, 10:18,
1 Corinthians 1:24,
Ephesians 1:22,
Philippians 3:21,
Colossians 2:10,
Revelation 1:18
Immutability or changelessness (which only God possesses):
Hebrews 1:11-12, 13:8
What did Jesus do? Actions which only God can do are attributed in Scripture to Jesus.
Creation:
John 1:3, 10,
1 Corinthians 8:6,
Colossians 1:16,
Hebrews 1:10
Upholds and preserves all things: Colossians 1:17, Hebrews 1:3
Forgives sins: Mark 2:5-10,
Luke 5:20-24, 7:47-49,
Acts 5:31
Gives the Holy Spirit: Luke 24:40,
John 16:7, 20:22,
Acts 2:33
Gives true peace: John 14:27, 16:33,
Romans 15:33, 16:20,
2 Corinthians 13:11,
Philippians 4:9,
1 Thessalonians 5:23,
Hebrews 13:30
Gives light: John 1:4-9, 8:12, 9:5, 12:35, 46,
1 John 1:5-7,
Revelation 21:23
Gives eternal life: John 17:2
Confers spiritual gifts: Ephesians 4:8-13
Receives worship: Matthew 14:33,
Luke 24:51-52,
Acts 1:24, 7:59-60,
Hebrews 1:6,
Revelation 5:13
What rights and prerogatives did Jesus have? Powers and privileges belonging solely to Yahweh are claimed by Jesus for Himself.
Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath:
Mark 2:28
Jesus claimed to be the final judge of all human beings: Matthew 7:21-23, 13-41-43, 19:28, 25:31-33,
Mark 14:62,
Luke 9:26

The most important thing to do

You must be born again

You want to hear from God then receive Jesus in your life

You will have whatever you say

You must be born again