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Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 5:38pm On Sep 03, 2021
richiepolymer:


Uvwie has an Ovie (King), same with Udu and Okpe. So how do they fall under warri? If these towns you mentioned have their traditional rulers and are recognized by govt and their people, how then do you make it sound like they are under the leadership of the Olu. This is the reason why that title should actually be "Olu of Itsekiri". Warri is a town, Itsekiri transcends Ode Itsekiri. Anyways...what do I know? Shed light on it.

Maybe i didn't explain my last point well due to power failure as i was rushing to type.

Let's use Lagos as an example
Oba Akiolu is known as Oba of Lagos right?
To outsiders and those who don't know anything about it they will assume it covers the entire lagos state.
That's the same notion most people get when they hear Olu of Warri

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Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by Oju4190: 5:39pm On Sep 03, 2021
Realhommie:
His father was King and his father's mother was Yoruba also, he was on the throne for almost 30 years before he passed in 2015.... Na who dey make the rules again?

Make we leave story.
The current olu was disqualified in 2015.... Do u know why he was disqualify? Do Ur research and get back to me
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 5:40pm On Sep 03, 2021
davidque:

Thanks for the expose. Clearly Ayiri had some other princes in his support and was working to get them on the throne, that would have meant that he would have a stooge to control as king.
Things like this have happened infact anytime a king dies internal conflicts happen all the time.

Something like this happened and there was an interregnum for 88 years where Itsekiri had no King.
So it's nothing new it will surely die down trust me

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Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by Oju4190: 5:53pm On Sep 03, 2021
Coldie:
Who are the true owners of warri?

Does it belong to the itsekiris?
The Itsekiri is just a small entity in warri they know deir boundary and they make too much noise about the title of olu of warri.,... Who cares
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by Realhommie(m): 6:39pm On Sep 03, 2021
Oju4190:
The current olu was disqualified in 2015.... Do u know why he was disqualify? Do Ur research and get back to me
Lol... I know why he was, he was schemed out because his mum wasn't Itsekiri or Bini..


My point there was, that law or rule was set by people with whatever interests in mind and it's same people (not aliens) that will set it aside. That's why i quipped "Who made the rules?"...

Do you get me now?
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by itu404(m): 6:47pm On Sep 03, 2021
Bar1941:
The new king needs to thread with caution, as a traditional ruler, your power is very limited, even in the constitution the traditional rulers are placed under the local governments chairmen which shows how little their powers are. I will advise he let go of the past and look inward on how to better the lives of his people rather than involving in endless war with the chiefs.
Moves too quick and too obvious he is coming for revenge; that is not expected from the king. rather forgive and bring all together is the way of wisdom.... you are already being judged by the world at large via whatever move you make.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by seunmsg(m): 6:49pm On Sep 03, 2021
Oju4190:
The current olu was disqualified in 2015.... Do u know why he was disqualify? Do Ur research and get back to me

He is now the Olu and he will reign over Warri for a very long time God willing. So, learn to live with it.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by Oju4190: 8:49pm On Sep 03, 2021
seunmsg:


He is now the Olu and he will reign over Warri for a very long time God willing. So, learn to live with it.
People like Ayiri is just trying to save him of wat will befall him in the future.....I just hope obansajo didn't witness the coronation of another next olu.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by seunmsg(m): 8:53pm On Sep 03, 2021
Oju4190:
People like Ayiri is just trying to save him of wat will befall him in the future.....I just hope obansajo didn't witness the coronation of another next olu.

He will rule till a very old age and his children will rule after him. That’s what will befall him.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 9:15pm On Sep 03, 2021
nisco18ng:
Look! An illiterate spotted!
ok.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 9:19pm On Sep 03, 2021
onuwaje:

1. Warri is a corruption of Iwere, as the Itsekiri know their homelands up till date.
2. Itsekiris refer to themselves as Oma-Iwere (child of iwere)
3. European contacts from the Portuguese to the English has corrupted the name to Ouerre, Warre, Wari and Warri as it is today ( same follows for places like Ibani called Bonny etc)
4. Warri as a town covers current day Udu,Okpe, Uvwie, and some parts of Warri South LGA (just like we have Port Harcourt which covers a vast land mass)
5. Most people saying Warri belongs to this or that, should please refer to the court judgements and maintain their boundaries
nah. Udu uvwue and okpe are not warri. They are just other town close to warri
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 9:25pm On Sep 03, 2021
WarriAproko:
nah. Udu uvwue and okpe are not warri. They are just other town close to warri
Don't get it mixed up..
I was typing before my phone went off sir.

There's a principle of Geography, there is what they call urban primacy, where a city envelopes its neighbouring towns due to development and other vices (Port Harcourt is a very classic example) . Now in the case of Warri, those LGAs i mentioned are just trying to catch up just to get a form of identity.
I never said the Olu of Warri has lordship over those areas
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 9:26pm On Sep 03, 2021
Coldie:

Make e no cost problem one day o
it won't except they tried to drag territories
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 9:41pm On Sep 03, 2021
onuwaje:

Don't get it mixed up..
I was typing before my phone went off sir.

There's a principle of Geography, there is what they call urban primacy, where a city envelopes its neighbouring towns due to development and other vices (Port Harcourt is a very classic example) . Now in the case of Warri, those LGAs i mentioned are just trying to catch up just to get a form of identity.
I never said the Olu of Warri has lordship over those areas
ok. Whose people is the olu lordship over
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 9:53pm On Sep 03, 2021
WarriAproko:
ok. Whose people is the olu lordship over

The Olu of Warri is lord over all Itsekiris and the areas which the supreme court has passed judgements over in favour of the Olu
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 5:36am On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:


The Olu of Warri is lord over all Itsekiris and the areas which the supreme court has passed judgements over in favour of the Olu
lols. Which is the area
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 7:03am On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:


The Olu of Warri is lord over all Itsekiris and the areas which the supreme court has passed judgements over in favour of the Olu
he is only ruler to the itskeris. The other tribes have their kingdoms and he can't decide so stop saying trash. Their land is just a small kingdom. They are tenants in warri city
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 8:22am On Sep 04, 2021
WarriAproko:
he is only ruler to the itskeris. The other tribes have their kingdoms and he can't decide so stop saying trash. Their land is just a small kingdom. They are tenants in warri city
Like i said in the subject matter of who owns Warri, it has been settled in the court cases
That's my point i am trying to buttress to you. No need to start throwing shades
#1love
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 8:23am On Sep 04, 2021
WarriAproko:
lols. Which is the area

First i would like you to please refer to all the court cases involving Itsekiri and the Urhobos concerning Warri
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by Oju4190: 8:26am On Sep 04, 2021
Realhommie:
Lol... I know why he was, he was schemed out because his mum wasn't Itsekiri or Bini..


My point there was, that law or rule was set by people with whatever interests in mind and it's same people (not aliens) that will set it aside. That's why i quipped "Who made the rules?"...

Do you get me now?
which people are u talking about... Dey would as well brought INEC to conduct an election to the position of the olu so that we know that the people have spoken
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by Realhommie(m): 8:31am On Sep 04, 2021
Oju4190:
which people are u talking about... Dey would as well brought INEC to conduct an election to the position of the olu so that we know that the people have spoken
You're obviously not getting my point.. Please go back to my first post, see the comment I mentioned and my response. Thanks
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 9:52am On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:


First i would like you to please refer to all the court cases involving Itsekiri and the Urhobos concerning Warri
they only lame claim to the name warri. And not to the lands in warri. The word warri they assume is a corrupted word from iwere. So dont argue what u dont know. As they knows were their boundaries end. Or u forgot that there are other kingdoms in warri. If other tribes decide to rename their territories nothing will happen. The word warri is just holding the local government. The court case was only ownership to the word warri as they assume is a corrupt word iwere.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 9:58am On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:

Like i said in the subject matter of who owns Warri, it has been settled in the court cases
That's my point i am trying to buttress to you. No need to start throwing shades
#1love
who owns the word warri assume as corrupt word from the Portuguese first ment the Itsekiris in river in ode Itsekiri which is iwere kingdom and they called it warri before coming to land and found other kingdoms and name it warri Province then.the olu was known as olu of iwere kingdom.by court judgment the name iwere kingdom as warri kingdom is a corrupt word and no meanings.The word warri is just a political word binding the lga and kingdoms inside. So stop ur blinds arguments. There are warri city lands which is occupied mainly by other kingdoms. Example we have Oba of lagos which only rule some minor places and not the whole of lagos. We have other kingdoms in same lagos. So whats ur argument. Besides warri south have more lands than the other warri lga. Other tribes knows their boundaries they are lucky to get the oil wells and big companies intheir locations and that is why they are super rich from home mages.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 10:08am On Sep 04, 2021
WarriAproko:
they only lame claim to the name warri. And not to the lands in warri. The word warri they assume is a corrupted word from iwere. So dont argue what u dont know. As they knows were their boundaries end. Or u forgot that there are other kingdoms in warri. If other tribes decide to rename their territories nothing will happen. The word warri is just holding the local government. The court case was only ownership to the word warri as they assume is a corrupt word iwere.
Sir.
1. Itsekiris have always called their Homelands Ale-Iwere and it has been seen in Journals written by the British, Portuguese etc long before colonization started

2. I have said times without number i am not arguing land issues here (if need be i will stick to the final court judgements which some are in favour of Itsekiris and vice versa)

3. The word Warri to you may be just a local government but the Itsekiris have called any land that they re aborigines to Iwere that's what i have been trying to explain to you sir

4. That there are other kingdoms in Warri is not disputed that's why i said the subject matter of who owns Warri should be referred to the final court judgements as listed in my 2nd point here

5. I am not arguing i am just stating facts



One love
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 10:10am On Sep 04, 2021
WarriAproko:
who owns the word warri assume as corrupt word from the Portuguese first ment the Itsekiris in river in ode Itsekiri which is iwere kingdom and they called it warri before coming to land and found other kingdoms and name it warri Province then.the olu was known as olu of iwere kingdom.by court judgment the name iwere kingdom as warri kingdom is a corrupt word and no meanings.The word warri is just a political word binding the lga and kingdom. So stop ur blinds arguments. There are warri city lands which is occupied mainly by other kingdoms. Example we have Oba of lagos which only rule some minor places and not the whole of lagos. We have other kingdoms in same lagos. So whats ur argument. Besides warri south have more lands than the other warri lga.

All what you said here i have said before i am not arguing i have cited examples on Port Harcourt, Oba of Lagos, Supreme Court Cases on ownership and even gave an example called Urban Primacy as to the Warri subject matter.

Again i say, concerning ownership of Warri please refer to the court verdict. Thanks

One love
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 10:14am On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:

Sir.
1. Itsekiris have always called their Homelands Ale-Iwere and it has been seen in Journals written by the British, Portuguese etc long before colonization started

2. I have said times without number i am not arguing land issues here (if need be i will stick to the final court judgements which some are in favour of Itsekiris and vice versa)

3. The word Warri to you may be just a local government but the Itsekiris have called any land that they re aborigines to Iwere that's what i have been trying to explain to you sir

4. That there are other kingdoms in Warri is not disputed that's why i said the subject matter of who owns Warri should be referred to the final court judgements as listed in my 2nd point here

5. I am not arguing i am just stating facts



One love
lols. Who gives the word warri. Those facts are void.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 10:15am On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:


All what you said here i have said before i am not arguing i have cited examples on Port Harcourt, Oba of Lagos, Supreme Court Cases on ownership and even gave an example called Urban Primacy as to the Warri subject matter.

Again i say, concerning ownership of Warri please refer to the court verdict. Thanks

One love
ok. One love now i get u.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 10:21am On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:


All what you said here i have said before i am not arguing i have cited examples on Port Harcourt, Oba of Lagos, Supreme Court Cases on ownership and even gave an example called Urban Primacy as to the Warri subject matter.

Again i say, concerning ownership of Warri please refer to the court verdict. Thanks

One love
i gave an example. I would have bring up so many details but won't have time to type from some judgments. They favour the word warri to the itskeris and not to the other kingdom. Who don't know would think iwere kingdom is different from warri kingdom. Politics and democracy is just holding many word. The olu can only decide for his tribal people in the warri and not to the other tribes. Do you know his palace in warri city is on grand rentage to the other tribe thats why all major activities is been done in the Ancestral island palace . Which there are documents for that. So tell me why? Do u know why the Portuguese name it the olu of Itsekiris kingdom before it was change to iwere kingdom? I still tell u no one is dragging the word warri as the Itsekiris assume and claim by court judgement that they own the word warri from iwere. There is different between iwere spelling and warri. The Itsekiris just drag up the name warri so as to favour them and meanwhile when the same Portuguese came to land they call other tribes same corrupt word as warri too . Besides it was the Portuguese that called the other kingdoms as warri Province too and not the Itsekiris. The other kingdoms are Republicans rule by chiefs and council and not run by a single king because of the slave trades by rich men then and not a slave to a single head to decide for them. the only king then was the olu of Itsekiris in the region. At ode itsekeri refer to iwere kingdom by the Itsekiris which is were they are found the river banks. An island. I don't want to start referring to histories and court judgment because most are just write up and political my advice for other kingdoms is for them to package their king and their kingdoms so as to be first class king nor be to send boys go collect deve. One love Bro. Long live Ogiame Atuwatse the III Olu of Warri kingdom/iwere kingdom.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 1:21pm On Sep 04, 2021
WarriAproko:
i gave an example. I would have bring up so many details but won't have time to type from some judgments. They favour the word warri to the itskeris and not to the other kingdom. Who don't know would think iwere kingdom is different from warri kingdom. Politics and democracy is just holding many word. The olu can only decide for his tribal people in the warri and not to the other tribes. Do you know his palace in warri city is on grand rentage to the other tribe thats why all major activities is been done in the Ancestral island palace . Which there are documents for that. So tell me why? Do u know why the Portuguese name it the olu of Itsekiris kingdom before it was change to iwere kingdom? I still tell u no one is dragging the word warri as the Itsekiris assume and claim by court judgement that they own the word warri from iwere. There is different between iwere spelling and warri. The Itsekiris just drag up the name warri so as to favour them and meanwhile when the same Portuguese came to land they call other tribes same corrupt word as warri too . Besides it was the Portuguese that called the other kingdoms as warri Province too and not the Itsekiris. The other kingdoms are Republicans rule by chiefs and council and not run by a single king because of the slave trades by rich men then and not a slave to a single head to decide for them. the only king then was the olu of Itsekiris in the region. At ode itsekeri refer to iwere kingdom by the Itsekiris which is were they are found the river banks. An island. I don't want to start referring to histories and court judgment because most are just write up and political my advice for other kingdoms is for them to package their king and their kingdoms so as to be first class king nor be to send boys go collect deve. One love Bro. Long live Ogiame Atuwatse the III Olu of Warri kingdom/iwere kingdom.

This is one of the things you guys say that really amuses me

1. It has been said over and over again that the palace was bought from Okumagba Family and yet the Said Okumagba Family have not provided one piece of document to lay hold to such claim and even if there is i am still waiting to see a piece of the said document


Aside that, we are all on the same page.
One love
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by WarriAproko: 5:23pm On Sep 04, 2021
onuwaje:


This is one of the things you guys say that really amuses me

1. It has been said over and over again that the palace was bought from Okumagba Family and yet the Said Okumagba Family have not provided one piece of document to lay hold to such claim and even if there is i am still waiting to see a piece of the said document


Aside that, we are all on the same page.
One love
ok bro. We for take some bottles together. U base in delta. Thats why i always say how wish there is no tribe and religion nigeria would have been a better place.
Re: Olu Of Warri Kicks Out Ayiri, Revalidates Iyatsere, 10 Other Itsekiri Chiefs by onuwaje(m): 6:58pm On Sep 04, 2021
WarriAproko:
ok bro. We for take some bottles together. U base in delta. Thats why i always say how wish there is no tribe and religion nigeria would have been a better place.
I left Delta 11 months ago.

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