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Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:20pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Mark 16:17-18 ESV / 75 helpful votes And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” 1 Corinthians 14:21-22 ESV / 74 helpful votes In the Law it is written, “By people of strange tongues and by the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.” Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers. Acts 2:1-4 ESV / 73 helpful votes When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. 1 Corinthians 14:18 ESV / 71 helpful votes I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. Acts 2:1-13 ESV / 65 helpful votes When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. ... Ephesians 5:18 ESV / 61 helpful votes And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit, Galatians 5:22 ESV / 61 helpful votes But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 1 Corinthians 14:1 ESV / 60 helpful votes Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 1 Corinthians 12:10 ESV / 60 helpful votes To another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. Acts 2:3 ESV / 60 helpful votes And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. Acts 10:44-48 ESV / 57 helpful votes While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles. For they were hearing them speaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared, “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:21pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
1 Corinthians 12:28-30 ESV / 56 helpful votes And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 1 Corinthians 12:11 ESV / 56 helpful votes All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. 1 Corinthians 14:18-19 ESV / 52 helpful votes I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue. 1 Corinthians 14:5 ESV / 52 helpful votes Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up. Acts 19:2 ESV / 52 helpful votes And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” 1 Corinthians 14:26 ESV / 50 helpful votes What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up. Hebrews 2:3-4 ESV / 49 helpful votes How shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will. 1 Corinthians 12:31 ESV / 49 helpful votes But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way. Acts 2:7 ESV / 49 helpful votes And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 1 Corinthians 14:21 ESV / 47 helpful votes In the Law it is written, “By people of strange tongues and by the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.” 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 ESV / 45 helpful votes Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, ... 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 ESV / 44 helpful votes Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way. Acts 4:31 ESV / 43 helpful votes And when they had prayed, the place in which they were gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to speak the word of God with boldness. 1 Corinthians 14:14-15 ESV / 42 helpful votes For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:21pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Acts 10:1-48 ESV / 42 helpful votes At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion of what was known as the Italian Cohort, a devout man who feared God with all his household, gave alms generously to the people, and prayed continually to God. About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God come in and say to him, “Cornelius.” And he stared at him in terror and said, “What is it, Lord?” And he said to him, “Your prayers and your alms have ascended as a memorial before God. And now send men to Joppa and bring one Simon who is called Peter. ... Romans 8:26-27 ESV / 41 helpful votes Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 1 Corinthians 12:1-14:40 ESV / 38 helpful votes Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed. You know that when you were pagans you were led astray to mute idols, however you were led. Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit. Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; ... Acts 10:45 ESV / 38 helpful votes And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles. 1 Corinthians 1:22 ESV / 37 helpful votes For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, Ephesians 4:11 ESV / 36 helpful votes And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, Acts 2:38 ESV / 36 helpful votes And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 14:14-19 ESV / 35 helpful votes For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also. Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying? For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up. I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. ... Isaiah 28:11-13 ESV / 35 helpful votes For by people of strange lips and with a foreign tongue the Lord will speak to this people, to whom he has said, “This is rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose”; yet they would not hear. And the word of the Lord will be to them precept upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little, that they may go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. 2 Corinthians 12:12 ESV / 34 helpful votes The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with utmost patience, with signs and wonders and mighty works. 1 Corinthians 12:7-11 ESV / 32 helpful votes To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:23pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Ephesians 6:18 ESV / 25 helpful votes Praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, Acts 1:1-26 ESV / 25 helpful votes In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach, until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen. He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God. And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, “you heard from me; for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” ... Isaiah 28:11-12 ESV / 24 helpful votes For by people of strange lips and with a foreign tongue the Lord will speak to this people, to whom he has said, “This is rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose”; yet they would not hear. James 3:1-9 ESV / 23 helpful votes Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body. If we put bits into the mouths of horses so that they obey us, we guide their whole bodies as well. Look at the ships also: though they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs. So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things. How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! ... 1 Corinthians 14:12-13 ESV / 23 helpful votes So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church. Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray for the power to interpret. 1 Corinthians 14:7 ESV / 23 helpful votes If even lifeless instruments, such as the flute or the harp, do not give distinct notes, how will anyone know what is played? 1 Corinthians 1:5 ESV / 23 helpful votes That in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge— 1 Corinthians 14:16 ESV / 22 helpful votes Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying? 1 Corinthians 14:3 ESV / 21 helpful votes On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. Acts 8:14-18 ESV / 20 helpful votes Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money, |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:24pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Luke 24:49 ESV / 32 helpful votes And behold, I am sending the promise of my Father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.” 1 Corinthians 1:1-31 ESV / 31 helpful votes Paul, called by the will of God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and our brother Sosthenes, To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge— ... 1 Deuteronomy 28:49 ESV / 30 helpful votes The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the end of the earth, swooping down like the eagle, a nation whose language you do not understand, John 16:13-15 ESV / 29 helpful votes When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 2 1 Corinthians 13:9 ESV / 28 helpful votes For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 1 Corinthians 14:2-28 ESV / 27 helpful votes For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up. Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking in tongues, how will I benefit you unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching? ... |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:33pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
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Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by BassReeves: 7:35pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Acts 2:4 'And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.' Acts 10:44-46 '44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.' Acts 19:6 'And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.' Why are you that in a rush to reply and only to reply back hastily wrong? I am not going to let you suffer the wait of not immediately sharing the answer with you, so I'll cut straight to the chase, and show you the three occasions and then when I ask you to mention the common theme with the three, hopefully you will noice it enough to give the correct response The recorded times are: Acts 2:4, Acts 10:44-46 and Acts 19:6. You prefer NKJV, so thats what I pasted up there for you. I dont think that adds up to 100, or is my mathematics that bad When you contextually read Acts 2:4, Acts 10:44-46 and Acts 19:6, please tell me what the underlining common theme is among the three recorded occasions. Thank you in advance for your kind answer and humble reply 1 Like |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:35pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Here are the 30 most important Bible scriptures on speaking in tongues. Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Mark 16:17 “And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues.” 1 Corinthians 14:2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 14:23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds? Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking in tongues and prophesying. 1 Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. 1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 1 Corinthians 14:1 Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 1 Corinthians 14:13 Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray for the power to interpret. 1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. 1 Corinthians 14:18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 1 Corinthians 14:19 Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue. 1 Corinthians 14:22 Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers. 1 Corinthians 14:27 If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. 1 Corinthians 14:39 So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 1 Corinthians 14:4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. Acts 10:46 For they were hearing them speaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared. Acts 11:15 As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them just as on us at the beginning. Acts 2:11 Both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God. Acts 2:3 And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 7:36pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Isnt the highlight in YELLOW my position? If you have Jesus, you have everything LIFE, HOLY SPIRIT, GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT, POWER etc You have Jesus at salvation isnt it? You are not quoting me properly, that is why you seem to be misunderstanding my question. I said: "I asked is there a spiritual gift that every Christian should have?" You mentioned three ministers of God in your response and I asked about every Christian |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:37pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Acts 2:6 And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. Acts 2:8 And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness. Isaiah 28:11 For by people of strange lips and with a foreign tongue the Lord will speak to this people. Jude 1:20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:39pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
BassReeves: If it about When believers got filled and spoke in tongues in the church I may cross check it later But the number of times speaking in tongues was mentioned in the Bible is enormous All the Apostles all most all talked about speaking in tongues |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by BassReeves: 7:43pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Beloved, take easy and slow down. I was not asking of the outright mention of the phrase speaking in tongues, but rather asked about the number of times when speaking in tongues being done was recorded in the bible. I have advanced the answer to being 3 times, so next question to you was, what is the underlining common theme you notice in them three occasions, when you read Acts 2:4, Acts 10:44-46 and Acts 19:6 contextually 1 Like |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:44pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Read those thread pages I answered the questions |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:46pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
BassReeves:. Tell me the underlying theme |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 8:04pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:This your wrong teaching: I know Holy Spirit far much more than you think. He speaks to me----- the first word i ever heard Him speak directly was a one word answer NO! (that was in my undergraduate days) He guides me ------ "...yinka, take your hand away from the window...cover your eyes.... see, the glory of a man" He empowers me to serve Him----I am glad to be used by Him in healing and Deliverance. He chastises me when I go wrong------countless times He teaches me and gives me understanding of the scriptures and the will of the Father---- He give me Words of Knowledge and Words of Wisdom---- Praying in Tongues is not a power gift. Thes below are examples of Power gifts. They are called power gifts not because of anything but because they are undenyable gifts when in operation (they change things directly in the Physical realm) Healing, Deliverance, Faith, Miracles, Discernment of Spirits, Prophecy Certainly, not glossa. Tongues when the hearers hear in their own language is the only spectacular side of the gift of tongues It is not wrong to pray in tongues BUT praying in tongues is NOT a spiritual gift. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 8:10pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:You know the truth! There is not one difference of true children of God whether they speak in tongues or not except they are not operating in FAITH! Jesus gave every child of His power to tread upon snakes and scorpions and on every power of the enemy. This has nothing to do with tongues. What is the difference between the efficacy of prayer in understanding and prayer without understanding? |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 8:18pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: God just showed me why you have not been able to receive this beautiful gift. You can continue to believe the things you want no problem with me You can say you own idea of what speaking in tongues is it your own mind set it not what is in the Bible I only wish you well since you refuse to listen to me I know what am saying and I know how powerful this thing am saying is All the things I say can be found in the Bible My heart burns as a speak this things that is the effects of the Holy Spirit Baptism and fire gift I just wish you well thank God I was not like you when God was leading me in his ways |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 8:23pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
BassReeves:It seems you don't know the distinction between the Gift of Faith and the Operation in Faith! Every Christian is commanded and expected to have Faith But Not every Christian have the Gift of Faith The Gift of Faith is a Supernatural Ability given by the Holy Spirit to a Child of God to be able to TRUST God's position in exceptionally difficult and naturally impossible situations. ...it will rain today when there is no sign of rain (harmathan) ...you are healed ---when the man is medically dying ...he is not dead---when the doctors have pronounced him dead Faith is just trusting God's Word and His integrity: even an unbeliever can have faith on hearing the word of God for salvation Finally, all spiritual gifts of the same kind do not have the same operation neither do they have the same magnitude (size). My gift of healing may be able to heal the sick but another Christians gift of healing can restore eyes to the blind from birth. Every Christian act according to their level of faith, use (experience) and devotion to God with respect to their spiritual gifts. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 8:24pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Read this place very well and tell me what you notice Mark 16 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 8:46pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Your first and third sentence are Correct. Your second sentence is a contradiction of your first sentence. Does salvation occur gradually? What is the time of salvation and how is it different from the moment a person become saved. Bishopkingsley:Correct. And it includes our spiritual Giftings Bishopkingsley:Correct. But this is what you teach: You claim contrary to the above that after salvation, a person now has to seek the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues Bishopkingsley:The power of the Holy Spirit is already resident in a person who has Christ. The problem is Faithlessness. I told you I used to think I had the gift of Faith: Why? Because God was using me to heal people (particularly students while I was teaching at a Polytechnic): it didn't matter whether they were Christians or Muslims, they were getting healed. When a child of God make himself available, the Power of Christ flows (Gift or not) God still uses me to heal till today, but it isn't my spiritual gift: I just make myself available Bishopkingsley:Tongues is NOT the Holy Spirit The Holy Spirit is NOT tongues. The Holy Spirit is the SEAL of all who are Christs own. Your emphasis shouldn't be tongues BUT yieldedness to the Holy Spirit who is in You There is a difference but subtly, you mix them up |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 8:52pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:What I am saying is that (even though I don't despise praying in tongues), God does His work through me and I don't even have to speak in tongues to be used. There is too much noise in the church and it is causing believers to lose their identity in Christ. If you have any experience with casting out demons, you will know that tongues don't get the job done. It is your stand in Faith and Authority of Christ Jesus. BTW, some demonized people also speak in tongues at the point of their deliverance. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 8:55pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: My brother you can believe what you want Bible said we know in part What I teach is what I believe and it in the Bible we speak because we believe and therefore we speak Am happy to have received this beautiful gift of tongues which is the evidence of the Holy Spirit living in your body You can refuse him or refuse his speaking in tongues he is a perfect gentleman there is no one who says bad things about tongues that actually got it that is the amazing thing What ever you despise you won't get you only get what you desire |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 8:59pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:These sign shall follow them that BELIEVE (not pray in tongues) -casting out demons -taking up serpents -drink deadly things -healing the sick Not necessarily that they have the Spiritual gifts but the Power to do... |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 9:04pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Your ideas are limiting YOU. You are locked in praying in tongues that you are blind to see that you already have the power you refuse to use. This is why the best many christians can do is to pray in tongues with nothing else in terms of service. Even common evangelism, the best they can do is to say "come to my church" instead of linking the unbeliever to Christ. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 9:05pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:You didn't answer the questions. |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 9:09pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:After praying in tongues, what is next? Go out and be minister of Christ's presence in Evangelism, Healing, Deliverance and Discipleship. If everything just revolves around praying in tongues, you're just like an overfed baby who does no exercise. After the tongues, what next? more tongues or ministry? |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:23pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Wow is this how you read the Bible wow no problem now I know what is inside you |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:26pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Is this what we are talking about You are just trying to justify your reason for not wanting to obey God word Our topic is about tongues no one has ever said don't do other things after all I told you soul winning is the vital thing to do I said it to you over a million times |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:34pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: I think it time for us to end our conversation Because we are not on the same page and lack of faith is the most deadly thing to get from people around you Jesus couldn't do mighty works in his village imagine God Almighty could not because of his villagers unbelieve unbelieve is more dangerous than sin or any thing Jesus had to quickly leave that location Unbelief is actually what takes people to hell not even sin Let end our conversation before you transfer the evil aroma to me God bless you in your work Bye 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 10:20pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Jesus didn't do any miracles with tongues The disciples didn't perform any miracle with tongues The all preached, healed, delivered and ministered in understanding. I choose to imitate Jesus and the disciples in ministry! Its not about whipping up emotions, it is about doing the WORK of the ministry through FAITH in the FINISHED work of Christ 1 Like |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by shadeyinka(m): 10:27pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Just one scripture that commands us to ALL pray in tongues? I am saying concentrate on the other things rather than praying in tongues as praying in tongues is not useful for PUBLIC exhortation. Your problem is not knowing the DIFFERENCE between the GIFT of tongues (which is useful for public exhortation) and the operation in tongues (praying in tongues) for personal edification. Until you know the difference will you have a breakthrough in ministry. I am saying without mincing words that most christians who specialize in praying in tongues are empty barrels that make loud noise in terms of their Public Ministry! This is the plain truth: just look around and see! |
Re: ⚫Those Who Speak In Tongues and those who Believe In Jesus Can Never Go To Hell by BassReeves: 10:27pm On Sep 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka:It seems you don't know that the father had the Gift of Faith, but wasn't able to wield the faith into operation. His faith wasn't functioning well enough, hence he cried out to Jesus, to help him maximise his operation in faith shadeyinka:You'll be talking codswallop if you're saying not all believers have the gift of faith shadeyinka:2 Timothy 1:7 NKJV 'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind' Do you know what FEAR, stands for? It stands for 'False Evidence Appearing Real' Tell me, what is the one word, remedy, for fear or tell me what the one word antidote to fear is? shadeyinka:Hebrews 11:1 'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.' Romans 10:17 'So faith comes from hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the [preaching of the] message concerning Christ.' 'even an unbeliever can have faith on hearing the word of God for salvation' sic and the reason for that, is because it is a gift from God shadeyinka:You've just parroted what I earlier typed that 'Every believer has the gift of faith, albeit they are in different measurable levels, hence the historic 'I do believe: strengthen my weak faith' plea' Please advance your answers to the following earlier asked you. Thanks What is the name your mother tongue is called? Is it a gift of speaking in tongues or not? Where did your gift of speaking in your mother tongue come from? Is it from God or from the devil? 1 Like |
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