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Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by Mangekyo: 10:14am On Sep 24, 2021
kinethic:


Bros listen well well.. I have lived in China for 11 years and presently living in Taiwan for 11 years now. I can tell you what is on ground as we are used to this rhetorics.
It’s not what many think :
1: Taiwan have never been ruled by China . Read the history. It’s basically ruled by Japan, Portugal , Holland etc when you come here you will feel it . China is just claiming because of the island economic power success and control almost 98 percent of the chip and computer industry. All your phone, computer, car and every electronic devices contains chips made in Taiwan.
2: China wants to use Taiwan to control the shipping line and launch their so called greatness by revenging Japanese, blocking shipments to and fro to USA, Japan and others.
3: Many countries have finally realized that China isn’t trust worthy especially after the COVID 19 saga in attempt for them to cripple economies especially America. Look at it now the mess we are in. Even Russia don’t trust China though allies.
4: China is not destined to be world leader but influential. It’s inconceivable and never will happen. They can’t do it alone but through alliance.
5: China is broke forget all these bling bling show. The are now taxing the rich more, taking over Alibaba and are in full control of everything. The rich are leaving buying citizens in many countries.

I agree with you on all these

6: Anyone that thinks that USA will give up its dominance like that is joking. And thinks that militarily USA is weak should think twice.
The kind of secret ammunition, weapons they have it’s out of this world and would blow your mind off. Ask Russia they know what I am talking about. Fear USA, fear Israel etc.

This must be a joke. No one is saying the US military is joke. The thing is they aren't miles above others, like they used to be. If they were to go to war with the likes or Russia, China, India, it would be 50/50 or 70/30 to whoever is on the defensive. The US having many secret weapons is pure trash and not factual. The US I know are bullies. They will display their weapons on other to instill fear on other countries who may think they're actually catching up.

7: If you think that Taiwan is weak you are joking. They are the world’s 10th or about strongest army in the world. Check your this out. Taiwan have been ready for almost 70 years for China. They are ready all around the island have been fortified with mines, traps that China is think twice. The rugged mountains and paths in Taiwan is the advantages they have. It’s never been known or heard about any country that can pull off any successful attacks on such places yet. Even America can’t. Taiwan is covered all around with rugged mountains, bunkers everywhere.

All these Mines, rigged bunkers, traps etc you mentioned are of no use in modern warfare. A single nuke would completely destroy the surroundings where all the toys are placed. The fact that Taiwan doesn't possess any nuclear weapon or ICBM means they would lose woefully to china.

8: Taiwan is a peaceful, progressive and rich country that you can’t joke with. They knew that and both navy, military, Air Force are mostly trained in America. They have amazing defense strategies to hold off any attacks.
9: There are alliance already to keep China away too. India, Japan, Australia, Uk, Philippine, Newzealand (a bit moderate) Canada etc.
China knows all these .

See bros, all the alliances bullshits are only there for the papers. When real war shows up I can bet with you none of those allies would show up. Let me enlighten you more.
During the world War 2, when the nazi Germans invaded Poland, the president of Poland boldly said that they were allies with 2 world powers in Great Britain and France, and that they'd definitely have their backs. The pols had high hopes that the nazi Germans would be beaten back in a few days, since their allies would be there in no time. At the end of the day, neighter France nor Great Britain even tried to Send one aircraft as reinforcement for them. The pols surrendered immediately when they realized the allies they've been seeing as big brothers had snubbed them. Apparently great Britain and France decided to avoid contact with the nazi and no one wants war. They knew the price they'd pay would be too much. All those countrues you mentioned would think twice about responding to Taiwan call against a country like China

10: Remember when you talk about China you actually talking about CCP that’s China. The people are not involved in any decision making and they would not approve any war against Taiwan since a lot of Chinese are living in Taiwan too. Don’t forget they are cousins except the Aboriginal and natives that owns the island before migrants came .
11: Taiwan is a very beautiful place and with great Human Resources, friendly and dependable. CCP is not happy because of the progress and democracy here since they had already brainwashed its citizens that Chinese people can’t rule themselves or have democracy but Taiwan proved them wrong.
Ccp is not what many thinks because business is booming people don’t quite understand them.
have to agree with this.

12: China , Russia and other nations are getting ready for attacking Israel which have been already spoken in the Bible but God will destroy Russia and send them back with a hook in their nose.

This is laughable. China and Russia are preparing to attack Israel? In your dreams abi Wetin? I suggesr you wake to reality bro.
The russia I know would never attack any country. Me nor knw where you get this propaganda from.

13: Most importantly God is watching over Taiwan though 90 percent are Buddhist but there is something they are getting right that Nigeria full of religiosity and churches couldn’t.
I choose not to believe this. The only country I can agree that God is watching over is Israel. I will not believe any other

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Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by Salowise: 10:24am On Sep 24, 2021
There's nothing like war, no country wlll be willing to lost trillions of dollars economy to war, all i see is one day they'll come together for peace talk, and also sign MóU, with the were expecting a nwo (new world order)
Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by Mangekyo: 10:25am On Sep 24, 2021
gbaby4live:



I see say you don carry Super Power give China.

USA �� will fly their jets to China and Russia and then nothing will happen. China and Russia will only make noise, but those two countries can’t even come close to US territories because they can’t, they don’t have the balls to do that. That’s what I call Super Power.

Go and read USS MIDWAY story when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in Hawaii.


USA flew their jets into Russia and China and nothing happened? Guy get some shame na, you think say na small boy you Dey follow talk.
US fly plain enter Russia na e dem no see the plane in pieces for ground the next day?
You must be under the influence of some negative substances!

I know about what happened when Japan attacked pearl harbor. The reason for that was that the US sanctioned them, and they used that means to reply. The US declared war on them the next day. Meanwhile, during the cause of the war, the US were receiving it hot and were losing personnel on a daily, they failed to break into Japan. Las Las they had to use nuclear weapons which killed 75,000 civilians injuring another 75,000 in other not to face a horrible defeat which was looking very likely

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Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by BigDawsNet: 11:28am On Sep 24, 2021
Bbqekpa:


World policing na.
To secure sensitive territories grin

Dude, it really makes no sense

No country will draft foreigner into it's military Hun... grin

Look for any other options to migrate
Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by Bluntemperor: 12:14pm On Sep 24, 2021
jojofola:
Wetin dey worry China & Russia sef!!

Because they think America should be brought down at all costs!
Russian have nothing to offer any country than destruction while China have stolen most of the American and Europeans secrets is also in arms against America.The worst is China who will not allowed a single freedom in anything, even amongst his citizens, including choice to marry!
As at now,the internal insurrection in America was sponsored by Trump who is a willing tool in the hands of the outside enemy.
Americans( Democrats and Republicans) are fighting the very Democracy they brought to the World and you begins to wander if they are having two much Freedom!
Time will tell!
Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by Jobig(m): 1:07pm On Sep 24, 2021
I no follow
Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by Xonavo: 1:15pm On Sep 24, 2021
Here we go again
Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by kinethic: 2:49pm On Sep 25, 2021
dermmy:


You have lived in China for 11yrs and in Taiwan for 11yrs too yet you don't know the history of both lands and their relationship.

China has never ruled Taiwan? That is the narrative western media want you to believe cause they are anti-China and you the independent reader and analyst don't have to be brainwashed by their lies.




According to historians the original identity of the people of Taiwan is Austronesian, people from Malaya, Madagascar, Philippines, Oceania. Later the Chinese during the Sui dynasty era came. The idigenous people are called The Siraya People. The island has witnessed some incursions in the past.

The portuguese came around 1540s and named the island Ilha Formosa which means beautiful island.

The Dutch came around 1620s searching for a base of operations for the Dutch East India Company, later the Han Chinese came in the 17th century they are mostly refugees fleeing the wars in China. Their migration into Formosa/Taiwan was explosive. This was a time when Taiwan started developing a strong connection with China to the extent that the aborigines of Taiwan threw away their sea-serpent god in favor of Taoism and Confucianism.

The Japanese came around 1895 after the first Sino-Japanese war forced the Qing dynasty of China to cede Taiwan under the Treaty of Shimonoseki

Question: If China never ruled Taiwan how was Japan able to force China to cede Taiwan by making China to sign the Treaty of Shimonoseki forcefully? Japan could have invaded the island without China's consent and take over the way the Dutch and Portuguese did in the past.

After Japan was defeated in 1945 Japan relinquished its control over Taiwan and returned it back to China. China was still under the Kuomintang leader Chiang Kai-Shek at the time. In fact it was Chen Yi (kuomintang) the future kuomintang Governor of Taiwan that oversaw the surrender of Taiwan by Japan. Chen Yi was appointed by the Chinese ruler Chiang kai-shek.

After the communist seized power in 1949 Chinese president Chiang Kai-Shek fled China for Taiwan to continue his Kuomintang government on the island with U.S backing.

Question: If China never controlled Taiwan how was a Chinese president able to flee to the island to continue his government there to the point where he even renamed Taiwan as Republic of China (ROC) ?

China lost Taiwan because of the dirty game U.S played during the cold war. If the communist didn't seize power in China Taiwan would still be part of China to this day but U.S had to keep Taiwan from China's grasp so as to contain communist expansion in Asia and the pacific.

When you read always try to do an independent analysis based on the facts you have gathered.

There is what we called 50 cents warriors they are paid to make sure that anything called truth about Taiwan, USA , Tibet, Christians, organ harvesting, Faluong religion, superiority of Chinese race to every other race etc are not propagated and must be twisted in every media outlet world wide including nairaland. It’s a warfare that CCP is winning now but truth will finally prevail.
I am not saying you are one but I am feeling so.
There’s one thing you can be sure of sooner than later you will see that COVID 19 is from Africa not from Wuhan.
Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by kinethic: 2:57pm On Sep 25, 2021
Mangekyo:

I agree with you on all these

This must be a joke. No one is saying the US military is joke. The thing is they aren't miles above others, like they used to be. If they were to go to war with the likes or Russia, China, India, it would be 50/50 or 70/30 to whoever is on the defensive. The US having many secret weapons is pure trash and not factual. The US I know are bullies. They will display their weapons on other to instill fear on other countries who may think they're actually catching up.

All these Mines, rigged bunkers, traps etc you mentioned are of no use in modern warfare. A single nuke would completely destroy the surroundings where all the toys are placed. The fact that Taiwan doesn't possess any nuclear weapon or ICBM means they would lose woefully to china.

See bros, all the alliances bullshits are only there for the papers. When real war shows up I can bet with you none of those allies would show up. Let me enlighten you more.
During the world War 2, when the nazi Germans invaded Poland, the president of Poland boldly said that they were allies with 2 world powers in Great Britain and France, and that they'd definitely have their backs. The pols had high hopes that the nazi Germans would be beaten back in a few days, since their allies would be there in no time. At the end of the day, neighter France nor Great Britain even tried to Send one aircraft as reinforcement for them. The pols surrendered immediately when they realized the allies they've been seeing as big brothers had snubbed them. Apparently great Britain and France decided to avoid contact with the nazi and no one wants war. They knew the price they'd pay would be too much. All those countrues you mentioned would think twice about responding to Taiwan call against a country like China
have to agree with this.

This is laughable. China and Russia are preparing to attack Israel? In your dreams abi Wetin? I suggesr you wake to reality bro.
The russia I know would never attack any country. Me nor knw where you get this propaganda from.
I choose not to believe this. The only country I can agree that God is watching over is Israel. I will not believe any other

There are watchmen hidden not known in every country even in Nigeria that cries out day and night to God for mercy. The same in Taiwan.

It’s really baffling that most people do not understand the times and seasons we are into.
Russia is in Syria , China is Djibouti bases. It’s biblical the anti christ is already here but not yet to be manifested.
The Arabs coalition forces will attack the present day Israel Russia leading the pack. But God will destroy them and it will take seven years for Israel to clear the dead bodies, war equipments etc. Even when you ask a Jewish person they knew this already but it’s just when.
I guess you should start taking the Bible serious. When you live outside Nigeria you would start seeing and understanding things differently. My opinion though.

Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by gbaby4live: 1:40pm On Sep 28, 2021
Mangekyo:


USA flew their jets into Russia and China and nothing happened? Guy get some shame na, you think say na small boy you Dey follow talk.
US fly plain enter Russia na e dem no see the plane in pieces for ground the next day?
You must be under the influence of some negative substances!

I know about what happened when Japan attacked pearl harbor. The reason for that was that the US sanctioned them, and they used that means to reply. The US declared war on them the next day. Meanwhile, during the cause of the war, the US were receiving it hot and were losing personnel on a daily, they failed to break into Japan. Las Las they had to use nuclear weapons which killed 75,000 civilians injuring another 75,000 in other not to face a horrible defeat which was looking very likely

How did America use nuclear weapons?

*Why didn’t Russia blow up UK naval ship that Russia claimed it sailed into their territory?

*Why didn’t China blow up US fighter jet that China claimed it entered their air space?

*Why didn’t Russia blow up US jet they was in their air space few days ago?

Guy, don’t argue what you don’t know because you hate America. Lol

The worse those countries will do is to escort America or the UK out of their territories if it is indeed their territories.

Those countries can’t even dare to come close to US air space because they know what will happen to them.

That’s the difference man when we talk about world power.

Don’t just think America doesn’t have more and sophisticated weapons than Russia & China o.

Because America no dey display their current and new Arsenal like those two countries doesn’t mean they don’t have what it takes to destroy those two countries.
Re: US Spy Planes Deployed To Russia & Taiwan As Putin & Xi Hold War Games(Pix, Vid) by Mangekyo: 4:31pm On Sep 28, 2021
gbaby4live:


How did America use nuclear weapons?

*Why didn’t Russia blow up UK naval ship that Russia claimed it sailed into their territory?

*Why didn’t China blow up US fighter jet that China claimed it entered their air space?

*Why didn’t Russia blow up US jet they was in their air space few days ago?

Guy, don’t argue what you don’t know because you hate America. Lol

The worse those countries will do is to escort America or the UK out of their territories if it is indeed their territories.

Those countries can’t even dare to come close to US air space because they know what will happen to them.

That’s the difference man when we talk about world power.

Don’t just think America doesn’t have more and sophisticated weapons than Russia & China o.

Because America no dey display their current and new Arsenal like those two countries doesn’t mean they don’t have what it takes to destroy those two countries.


The thing is, you lack common sense. If it isn't that, then you're probably brainwashed.
When did us enter into Russians, boarders with their plane? Give me the source let me have a look.

They never entered into Russian boarders neither did they enter into Chinese boarders.
What the US did was pass through the waters the Chinese are claiming is theirs, but not fully recognized as theirs by the international community. Let me tell you exactly what the Chinese did with a good example. Take for example a rich man who lives in your street one day just comes out and declare that he owns the roads and that no one should pass through it. You're fully aware that his claim isn't recognized under the Nigerian authority. Would you out of fear that the man is rich hence decide to listen to him? I personally would pass the road because I know it doesn't belong to him and I have the right to.

The international community does not recognize the waters the Chinese and probably the Russians claim is their as truly theirs, which is why the US think they've the right to sail through them and not breaking any law.

But they will never enter into the real boarders that is fully recognized by the international community as part of Russia or china. If they do, then they would be putting the lives of their pilots in severe danger.

The US is just a toothless bulldog who can't do shit. Russia annexed Crimea in their presence and they acted like they didn't see it lmfao.

Hahaha ha you really think russia cannot go into the boarders of us lmaoooo. Russia sailed their submarines into the US boarders few months ago and all the US and UK could do was wail. Las Las Russia did what they wanted to do and left.

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