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obixcel:
America is over $28 trillion Dollars in debt, but their politicans in Washington (Dems & Repubs.) are seeking to add more to their debt. They keep raising the debt ceiling, printing more cash out of no where, not minding the rise in inflation. Consumer confidence is at its lowest point yet people are paid to stay back at home and do nothing in d name of Covid.
One thing that has become constant in any crisis situation, and It's d fact that it's always an opportunity for Politicians (on both sides) to make more money whereas they themselves are the creators of the problem.

I asked you what the National debt was when Obama handed over to Trump and you went mute. You better stick to doing rankadede for Alhaji at the secretariat which is the limit of your expertise, than comment on matters you know nothing about. Republicans somehow only remember National debt when they are not in office, yet add more than Democrats when they are.

benalvino3:
Ibime didn't even try to make any counter argument.

- Scientific America.

They engineer virus to create vaccines. Covid 19 itself could not penetrate human defence without help.

I believe the virus leaked accidentally from the lab. It was being studied in the lab as part of efforts to combat SARS outbreaks. That's my honest view which I have maintained for a while. Anything other than this is political grandstanding. It was not intentionally nor maliciously leaked for I have a brain to reason that no Govt will bring it's economy to a standstill intentionally. I also have a brain to know that Wuhan lab are not doing financial hitman work for Pfizer to make money.

Ibime:
Shut your mouth and get some consistency in your conspiracy theories. Since the virus was "engineered" in Wuhan, what is Pfizer's link to Wuhan, and why are Pfizer specifically the ones chopping all the money? Did Pfizer engineer the virus in Wuhan, or did they pay Wuhan to engineer the virus so they can chop money? Mumu man

I never mentioned pfizer, I said some people are gonna get rich. before you act like sabisabi first understand what someone is saying. I said they are attacking ivermectin because they are working on their own drug they will sell for bigger buck than ivermectin. all the players help in this and most of the guys who call the shots are in the pockets of the profiteers.

the virus was engineered in china, Americans were part of it, funding it. some of them are possibly in the pockets of these profiteers. not a conspiracy because we are seeing it.

It is you who ignore treatment doctors use by calling ivermectin Horse drug because don lemon ask you to.

benalvino3:
I never mentioned pfizer, I said some people are gonna get rich. before you act like sabisabi first understand what someone is saying. I said they are attacking ivermectin because they are working on their own drug they will sell for bigger buck than ivermectin. all the players help in this and most of the guys who call the shots are in the pockets of the profiteers.

the virus was engineered in china, Americans were part of it, funding it. some of them are possibly in the pockets of these profiteers. not a conspiracy because we are seeing it.

It is you who ignore treatment doctors use by calling ivermectin Horse drug because don lemon ask you to.

Get off conspiracy sites and get in the real world. There is no Govt not looking for therapeutic drug for Covid, whatever the drug costs. Ivermectin is on UK Govts clinical trial program. You don't know how clinical trials work, just ranting upandan. Let Brazil show working with Ivermectin and stop delivering F grade results, then we will believe it.

Ibime:
I believe the virus leaked accidentally from the lab. It was being studied in the lab as part of efforts to combat SARS outbreaks. That's my honest view which I have maintained for a while. Anything other than this is political grandstanding. It was not intentionally nor maliciously leaked for I have a brain to reason that no Govt will bring it's economy to a standstill intentionally. I also have a brain to know that Wuhan lab are not doing financial hitman work for Pfizer to make money.

we already have the strain of the sars virus. yes it leaked after they succeeded in programming a rout into humans into human DNA and what was missing was the vaccine they intend to build from their study.

They created a virus they should not have created, then they start to give us ill-vaccine that you will need every 3 months. money are being made.

What are the odds that many companies will make a vaccine for the virus not one of all the various vaccine will shut the virus down in its tracks. they all perform shockingly similar to one another. Fauci took the Vaccine they advertise will prevent infection and spreading the virus they immediately started wearing 2 mask. it is like he does not believe the vaccine will prevent anything because his reason is that Mutant covid may arise and thats what we got. delta variant. no new variant is coming again.

me i am angry about this whole thing. Sars virus has been studied for some time. corona viruses are very similar in nature. whatever function they gave it should be something they know they can mitigate beforehand

Ibime:
Get off conspiracy sites and get in the real world. There is no Govt not looking for therapeutic drug for Covid, whatever the drug costs. Ivermectin is on UK Govts clinical trial program. You don't know how clinical trials work, just ranting upandan. Let Brazil show working with Ivermectin and stop delivering F grade results, then we will believe it.

You Isa argue wit a donkey. Who Isa make money fram Vaxx if nat big pharma an isa shareholders.

Jabulani head isa said Sam people Isa get rich becos da making da own drugs. Who Isa make the drugs if nat big pharma. Merck makey ivermectin andi Merck isa also working on Covid drug. Conspiraci theory people Isa confused very much

Dat Jabulani headed donkey Isa slimey snake inside argument

Ibime:
Get off conspiracy sites and get in the real world. There is no Govt not looking for therapeutic drug for Covid, whatever the drug costs. Ivermectin is on UK Govts clinical trial program. You don't know how clinical trials work, just ranting upandan. Let Brazil show working with Ivermectin and stop delivering F grade results, then we will believe it.

Would be helpful
What month did vaccine leak
When did wiv lab buy its COVID-19 testing kit
Who funded research and if so was any of the funders involved in investigating covid origin

Ibime:
Get off conspiracy sites and get in the real world. There is no Govt not looking for therapeutic drug for Covid, whatever the drug costs. Ivermectin is on UK Govts clinical trial program. You don't know how clinical trials work, just ranting upandan. Let Brazil show working with Ivermectin and stop delivering F grade results, then we will believe it.

the horse drug. i wonder why they are putting a horse drug on trial.


watch the video below. ivermectin breakdown in india

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9cjy3Rydc&t=351s

armyofone:
My pal from the fruited plains, no HBD to naija ?

Happy Birthday Day to the coolest and quietest President!

Happy Birthday to Nigeria and i hope these America addicted Coons who love the Nazis and Proud Boys can fight to make Nigeria better if not their future is very gloom under the clueless Bubu.

ono:
The only thing you’ve posted so far that shows you’re human after all!

Brainless coon, how will you know when you have sold your soul to the vile Racist Pig Trump and his Right Wing Nuts that you idolize.

benalvino3:
the horse drug. i wonder why they are putting a horse drug on trial.

Same way they put HCL on trial and banned export of chloroquine and HCL at the start of the pandemic.

Govts are desperate for anything that may possibly work but you cultists live too much in conspiracy world and think every Govt is part of a big pharma agenda to keep their people sick and economies closed. You and Benalvino3 should grow up and become responsible and right thinking adults. It's not good for grown men to be thinking like this, seeing agenda and conspiracy in everything. I don't know how a grown man will think a Govt will cost its economy trillions of dollars just to line the pockets of a pharmaceutical company with a couple of billion dollars.

Ibime:
I asked you what the National debt was when Obama handed over to Trump and you went mute. You better stick to doing rankadede for Alhaji at the secretariat which is the limit of your expertise, than comment on matters you know nothing about. Republicans somehow only remember National debt when they are not in office, yet add more than Democrats when they are.

you post stupid graphics that you cannot explain them claim expert.

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 73.6% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget in 2009.6

FY 2017 - $671 billion
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion
FY 2015 - $326 billion
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion
FY 2013 - $672 billion
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion
FY 2009 - $253 billion. Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion.

In his FY 2021 budget, Trump's budget includes a $966 billion deficit.

FY 2020 - $4.226 trillion
FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion

Donald Trump: As of the end of FY 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt since Obama's last budget, a 33.1% increase due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

Ibime:
Same way they put HCL on trial and banned export of chloroquine and HCL at the start of the pandemic.

Govts are desperate for anything that may possibly work but you cultists live too much in conspiracy world and think every Govt is part of a big pharma agenda to keep their people sick and economies closed. You and Benalvino3 should grow up and become responsible and right thinking adults. It's not good for grown men to be thinking like this, seeing agenda and conspiracy in everything. I don't know how a grown man will think a Govt will cost its economy trillions of dollars just to line the pockets of a pharmaceutical company with a couple of billion dollars.

has nothing to do with cultist. Doctors are actually using it. in Australia the reasons they gave for the ban of the drug are bogus. no one says they banned it because its a hoax, they said are banning it because people are giving prescription on social media. They said if people use the drug it will prevent them from taking the vaccine. Stupid reasons to ban something that helps.

benalvino3:
you post stupid graphics that you cannot explain them claim expert.

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 73.6% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget in 2009.6

FY 2017 - $671 billion
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion
FY 2015 - $326 billion
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion
FY 2013 - $672 billion
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion
FY 2009 - $253 billion. Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion.

In his FY 2021 budget, Trump's budget includes a $966 billion deficit.

FY 2020 - $4.226 trillion
FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion

Donald Trump: As of the end of FY 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt since Obama's last budget, a 33.1% increase due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

Big mumu. Stop twisting yourself with numbers you don't understand.

Exclude 2020 and tell me Trump debt from 2017, 2018, 2019 and compare that to Obama's last 3 years and tell me which was larger.

Infact, exclude Trumps 2020 (reaction to pandemic) and tell me the average yearly debt increase for both.

You are a big fool. You think I didn't know the numbers before commenting.

Ibime:
Big mumu. Stop twisting yourself with numbers you don't understand.

Exclude 2020 and tell me Trump debt from 2017, 2018, 2019 and compare that to Obama's last 3 years and tell me which was larger.

Infact, exclude Trumps 2020 (reaction to pandemic) and tell me the average yearly debt increase for both.

You are a big fool. You think I didn't know the numbers before commenting.

you can lie but numbers don't. using insult to win arguments. I gave you numbers with percentage. How do you refute it without your usual ad-hominem?

what i provided is recoded data. even if you use a single term of obama, he still outspent trump without the pandemic. So shsss. we know you are nairaland expert but facts are facts.

benalvino3:
you can lie but numbers don't. using insult to win arguments. I gave you numbers with percentage. How do you refute it without your usual ad-hominem?

what i provided is recoded data. even if you use a single term of obama, he still outspent trump without the pandemic. So shsss. we know you are nairaland expert but facts are facts.

Stop lying. I believe you can count so take the same numbers YOU just posted and do the maths I asked you to do below. Give me your answer to question 1 and 2 below, then go and slap your teachers in Comprehensive for letting you pass out of secondary school.

You will not get away with comparing 3 years to 8 years or trying to obfuscate about percentage here which is a factor of low denominator. Just give me the answer to the 2 questions below:

Ibime:
1. Exclude 2020 and tell me Trump debt from 2017, 2018, 2019 and compare that to Obama's last 3 years and tell me which was larger.

2. Infact, exclude Trumps 2020 (reaction to pandemic) and tell me the average yearly debt increase for both.

Ibime:
Stop lying. I believe you can count so take the same numbers YOU just posted and do the.maths I asked you to do below. Give me your answer to question 1 and 2 below, then go and slap your teachers in Comprehensive for letting you pass out of secondary school.

President Donald Trump took office in January 2017. He submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget for fiscal year 2017, which continued until September 30, 2017.

The above there shows you have no clue. You do the maths and tell us. Stop acting like you are making a point. the numbers dont lie. use your phone calculator and do it.

Ibime:
Stop lying. I believe you can count so take the same numbers YOU just posted and do the maths I asked you to do below. Give me your answer to question 1 and 2 below, then go and slap your teachers in Comprehensive for letting you pass out of secondary school.

You will not get away with comparing 3 years to 8 years or trying to obfuscate about percentage here which is a factor of low denominator. Just give me the answer to the 2 questions below:

also what does average yearly debt have to do with anything when all we care about is the total debt added.

benalvino3:
President Donald Trump took office in January 2017. He submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget for fiscal year 2017, which continued until September 30, 2017.

The above there shows you have no clue. You do the maths and tell us. Stop acting like you are making a point. the numbers dont lie. use your phone calculator and do it.

Very good, since 2017 was a low number.

Give me the average yearly overspend 2010 to 2017 (Obama) Vs the average yearly overspend 2018-2019 (Trump without pandemic).

I believe you can calculate the above despite your state school education.

Let's use your own numbers below

FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion
FY 2017 - $671 billion
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion
FY 2015 - $326 billion
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion
FY 2013 - $672 billion
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion

PrideofLincoln1:
Happy Birthday to President Jimmy Carter. 97 year young today and the oldest living American President in history. A Great Humanitarian who is helping people with his humanity in his Zenith years. God bless President Jimmy Carter and Mrs Rosalynn Carter.

A very humane man. God continue to bless him with robust health.

Ibime:
Very good, since 2017 was a low number.

Give me the average yearly overspend 2010 to 2017 (Obama) Vs the average yearly overspend 2018-2019 (Trump without pandemic).

I believe you can calculate the above despite your state school education.

Let's use your own numbers below

FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion
FY 2017 - $671 billion
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion
FY 2015 - $326 billion
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion
FY 2013 - $672 billion
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion

what will the average do for you when we are talking about the total?

answer this question first

benalvino3:
also what does average yearly debt have to do with anything when all we care about is the total debt added.

The money you spend or earn in 8 years can never be the same as that you do in 4 years assuming your earning power is relatively similar. The average is the only way to compare. Help us with the calculation from your own numbers you posted.

Ibime:
The money you spend or earn in 8 years can never be the same as that you do in 4 years assuming your earning power is relatively similar. The average is the only way to compare. Help us with the calculation from your own numbers you posted.

we are talking about the sum of money spent in 4 years. how you spend it will affect the average if you are calculating average. your zeal for the average does not matter when we are looking for the total.

Na simple maths. you act like you understand it too much but you are not seeing the fallacy on your part.

i Spend 6k in 2 years. 3k each year the average is 3k

you spend 8 k in 4 years. 2k each year the average is 2k.

so you are not making sense here. you are trying to act smart but i am not buying it. the sum is what we are looking at in a time frame. the average does not make sense

Obama:
FY 2017 - $671 billion
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion
FY 2015 - $326 billion
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion

Trump:
FY 2019 - $1.563 trillion
FY 2018 - $1.272 trillion

benalvino3:
we are talking about the sum of money spent in 4 years. how you spend it will affect the average if you are calculating average. your zeal for the average does not matter when we are looking for the total.

Na simple maths. you act like you understand it too much but you are not seeing the fallacy on your part.

i Spend 6k in 2 years. 3k each year the average is 3k

you spend 8 k in 4 years. 2k each year the average is 2k.

so you are not making sense here. you are trying to act smart but i am not buying it. the sum is what we are looking at in a time frame. the average does not make sense

Stop talking rubbish or exposing your poor grasp of numbers

Obama has 7 years overspend to his credit. Trump has 2 years overspend to his credit. The average yearly overspend is the best comparator, or if you prefer, we can compare the last 2 years of Obama to Trumps 2 years.

The reason I laughed when obixcel resurrected his National debt talk was that Republicans loved talking about National debt when Obama was president then went quiet on it when Trump performance on National debt was worse than Obama's. I was conversant with the numbers even before I challenged obixcel on it, and we all know the Trump tax cuts was what made it worse. Obama had gotten it to under a trillion a year and the tax cuts took it back up to well over a trillion.

Ibime:
Stop talking rubbish or exposing your poor grasp of number

Obama has 7 years overspend to his credit. Trump has 2 years overspend to his credit. The average yearly overspend is the best comparator, or if you prefer, we can compare the last 2 years of Obama to Trumps 2 years.

The reason I laughed when obixcel resurrected his National debt talk was that Republicans loved talking about National debt when Obama was president then went quiet on it when Trump performance on National debt was worse than Obama's. I was conversant with the numbers even before I challenged obixcel on it, and we all know the Trump tax cuts was what made it worse. Obama had gotten it to under a trillion a year and the tax cuts took it back up over a trillion.

obama last 4 years is still higher than trump minus 2020. I just showed you the numbers that obama outspend trump aside from the pandemic. I still dont understand why you are ignoring that.

the stimulus obama did at the great recession is just $253 billion while trump is $2.2 trillion stimulus act in the pandemic. this one is mainly on congress sev. the numbers i presented here are facts. obama added more debt.

benalvino3:
obama last 4 years is still higher than trump minus 2020. I just showed you the numbers that obama outspend trump aside from the pandemic. I still dont understand why you are ignoring that.

the stimulus obama did at the great recession is just $253 billion while trump is $2.2 trillion. the numbers i presented here are facts. obama added more debt.

Stop talking rubbish. How will you compare 4 years to 2 years.

Since I've dragged you to the well, now I must force you to drink.

Obama average overspend in last 4 years was $876bln. Trumps average overspend in his 2 years (excluding pandemic) was $1.417 trillion. Can you see the difference?

So tell me how.much Trump would spend with 4 clean years. He was already overspending Obama by 62% on average.

Ibime:
Stop talking rubbish. How will you compare 4 years to 2 years.

Since I've dragged you to the well, now I must force you to drink.

Obama average overspend in last 4 years was $876bln. Trumps average overspend in his 2 years (excluding pandemic) was $1.417 trillion. Can you see the difference?

So tell me how.much Trump would spend with 4 clean years. He was already overspending Obama by 62% on average.

Because thats what the record shows. it was supposed to be 3 years because trump ran on obama's budget and started his 2018 budget early in 2017. thats why you have 2018, 19 and 20. but you said remove 2020 because of the pandemic.

If you are talking about average, we need a yearly total to add and divide to get the average. it is 2018 and 2019 for trump (3 years) without 2020

Trump submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget for fiscal year 2017, which continued until September 30, 2017.

benalvino3:
Because thats what the record shows. it was supposed to be 3 years because trump ran on obama's budget and started his 2018 budget early in 2017. thats why you have 2018, 19 and 20. but you said remove 2020 because of the pandemic.

If you are talking about average, we need a yearly total to add and divide to get the average. it is 2018 and 2019 for trump (3 years) without 2020

Trump submitted his first budget in May. It covered the 2018 fiscal year, which didn't begin until October 1, 2017. Trump operated the first part of his term under President Barack Obama's budget for fiscal year 2017, which continued until September 30, 2017.

Do you want to add 2017 to Trump and divide by 3 years? Whatever you want is fine with me, Obama will still trounce him. I can already see it in the numbers without reaching for calculator but you obviously struggle with arithmetic

Ibime:
Do you want to add 2017 to Trump and divide by 3 years? Whatever you want is fine with me, Obama will still trounce him. I can already see it in the numbers without reaching for calculator but you obviously struggle with arithmetic

The Jabulani ball headed donkey Isa struggle wit da English too.

Basilico you noisemaker

My booster shot booked for 13th October

Guess talking rubbish is not so free afterall.

Alex Jones, the right-wing conspiracy theorist and founder of Infowars, is responsible for all damages in two lawsuits stemming from his false claims that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a “giant hoax,” a judge ruled this week.

District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble of Travis County, Tex., issued default judgments Monday against Jones and Infowars after he did not comply with court orders to give information in a pair of 2018 lawsuits brought against him by families of two children killed in the 2012 massacre. Jones repeatedly failed to hand over documents and evidence to the court supporting his damaging and erroneous claims that the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., which killed 26 people, 20 of whom were young children, was a “false flag” operation carried out by “crisis actors.”

Gamble’s ruling, which was unsealed Thursday, lambasted Jones and his website’s parent company, Free Speech Systems, for having “intentionally disobeyed” the court’s requests and showing “flagrant bad faith and callous disregard” in not turning over documents related to this and other lawsuits filed against him. Jones has already lost several defamation lawsuits related to his Sandy Hook falsehoods and was previously ordered to pay tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to families who have sued him. Nine families have sued him over the years.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/01/alex-jones-sandy-hook-lawsuits/

Ibime:
Basilico you noisemaker

My booster shot booked for 13th October

I need to know why 2021 COVID-19 death toll in 6 months is higher than 2020 , when we have more capacity of oxygen plants, face masks ventilators,ICU beds besides vax passports and mandates.