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wirinet:
It seems the effort of people giving you free education like Lord Reed and Buda is paying off. You brain has now come round to the fact that vaccines don't stop infections. It only prepares your antibodies to fight off actual infection after it occurs.

It's more amazing that you realize that no one knows how long a healed person retains the antigens, and all we are going with are guess estimates. Note that with the flu virus (a related organism), you have to get the flu vaccine every year. When I was schooling in Sokoto, I had to get the meningitis vaccine every year.

The Covid19 virus is a novel virus. With more research and time, scientists would understand the virus better. For now we have to do all we can to save as much lives as possible.

So why do they use the word BREAK-THROUGH cases?

i don't think you understand how vaccines work. CDC claim vax are 90% effective of preventing infection. this means it is 90% effective in providing immunity.

if you are saying vax don't stop infection then you are contradicting everything we know about vax.

wirinet:
It seems the effort of people giving you free education like Lord Reed and Buda is paying off. You brain has now come round to the fact that vaccines don't stop infections. It only prepares your antibodies to fight off actual infection after it occurs.

It's more amazing that you realize that no one knows how long a healed person retains the antigens, and all we are going with are guess estimates. Note that with the flu virus (a related organism), you have to get the flu vaccine every year. When I was schooling in Sokoto, I had to get the meningitis vaccine every year.

The Covid19 virus is a novel virus. With more research and time, scientists would understand the virus better. For now we have to do all we can to save as much lives as possible.

CDC and Prevention has walked back the claim made by its director that vaccinated people don’t carry the coronavirus. this is what they were telling the US Walensky(CDC) said in April that “vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick.”

But the health agency clarified the statement Thursday, saying “the evidence isn’t clear” and that Walensky was “speaking broadly.”

“It’s possible that some people who are fully vaccinated could get COVID-19,” a CDC spokesperson told the New York Times. “The evidence isn’t clear whether they can spread the virus to others. We are continuing to evaluate the evidence.”

Now it is clear Abi? it just shows they don't know the specifications of their product.

wirinet:
It seems the effort of people giving you free education like Lord Reed and Buda is paying off. You brain has now come round to the fact that vaccines don't stop infections. It only prepares your antibodies to fight off actual infection after it occurs.

It's more amazing that you realize that no one knows how long a healed person retains the antigens, and all we are going with are guess estimates. Note that with the flu virus (a related organism), you have to get the flu vaccine every year. When I was schooling in Sokoto, I had to get the meningitis vaccine every year.

The Covid19 virus is a novel virus. With more research and time, scientists would understand the virus better. For now we have to do all we can to save as much lives as possible.

You Isa very corect. Don mind da Jabulani ball headed confuse donkey who Isa try spread nansense

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/conversations/understanding-vacc-work.html

benalvino3:
So why do they use the word BREAK-THROUGH cases?

i don't think you understand how vaccines work. CDC claim vax are 90% effective of preventing infection. this means it is 90% effective in providing immunity.

if you are saying vax don't stop infection then you are contradicting everything we know about vax.

It seems you need to learn from your MAGA colleague - basilico. He specifically came to the realization that no known vaccine stops infections. What vaccines do is "trick body to think the virus is present so body generates antibodies". The body has to be infected first before the body can generate antibodies. The job of vaccines is to make the body deal with future infections better. Most people still come down with chicken pox or measles even after being vaccinated at a very young age.

I doubt CDC can claim vax are 90% effective of preventing infection, most probably that's an error of reporting. That's why CDC still mandates masks and social distancing despite being fully vaccinated. What CDC can say is that CDC claim vax are 90% effective of preventing hospitalizations and deaths from Covid 19.

wirinet:
It seems you need to learn from your MAGA colleague - basilico. He specifically came to the realization that no known vaccine stops infections. What vaccines do is "trick body to think the virus is present so body generates antibodies". The body has to be infected first before the body can generate antibodies. The job of vaccines is to make the body deal with future infections better. Most people still come down with chicken pox or measles even after being vaccinated at a very young age.

I doubt CDC can claim vax are 90% effective of preventing infection, most probably that's an error of reporting. That's why CDC still mandates masks and social distancing despite being fully vaccinated. What CDC can say is that CDC claim vax are 90% effective of preventing hospitalizations and deaths from Covid 19.

Even as I provide evidence from CDC itself claiming their vaccine has 90% prevention efficiency 80% for single dose 90% for double dose you still they argue like na me make all those arguments.

If vaccine does not prevent infection. Then they should change the definition. You contradict the CDC and I pointed that out. Some people don't have anti.

You doubt the CDC said what they said because you are in contradiction. I quote the CDC so no need to doubt. That's my problem with them. They say one thing then change to another in an embarrassing way giving people doubt if they even know what they are doing.

benalvino3:
Even as I provide evidence from CDC itself claiming their vaccine has 90% prevention efficiency 80% for single dose 90% for double dose you still they argue like na me make all those arguments.

If vaccine does not prevent infection. Then they should change the definition. You contradict the CDC and I pointed that out. Some people don't have anti.

You doubt the CDC said what they said because you are in contradiction. I quote the CDC so no need to doubt. That's my problem with them. They say one thing then change to another in an embarrassing way giving people doubt if they even know what they are doing.

The whole corona vaccine is driven by profit motives. The CDC has all the data about the reactions of people including deaths but they are hiding it
They said the virus can be cleared by the vaccine With Joe Biden looking at 98% vax rate for normalcy to resume.
The virus was a godsend to democrats because they were able to push through mass mailin ballots.
The vaccine news was announced after the election because Trump would have looked good.
Politics, big tech and big pharma money has demonized people and institutions that report on alternative medicines or negative vax efffects.
When the WHO formed a team to investigate the origin of COVID-19 , one of the members was Peter Drazak (sp)of Ecohealth Alliance who funded the Wuhan lab virus genetical engineering with grants approved by Dr Faucci and other donors.

R kelly

benalvino3:
Even as I provide evidence from CDC itself claiming their vaccine has 90% prevention efficiency 80% for single dose 90% for double dose you still they argue like na me make all those arguments.

If vaccine does not prevent infection. Then they should change the definition. You contradict the CDC and I pointed that out. Some people don't have anti.

You doubt the CDC said what they said because you are in contradiction. I quote the CDC so no need to doubt. That's my problem with them. They say one thing then change to another in an embarrassing way giving people doubt if they even know what they are doing.

Sorry I did not see the evidence. Please provide me with the said evidence so I can verify myself.

Change which definition? You mean the definition of vaccine should be changed to suit your purpose?

basilico:
The whole corona vaccine is driven by profit motives. The CDC has all the data about the reactions of people including deaths but they are hiding it
They said the virus can be cleared by the vaccine With Joe Biden looking at 98% vax rate for normalcy to resume.
The virus was a godsend to democrats because they were able to push through mass mailin ballots.
The vaccine news was announced after the election because Trump would have looked good.
Politics, big tech and big pharma money has demonized people and institutions that report on alternative medicines or negative vax efffects.
When the WHO formed a team to investigate the origin of COVID-19 , one of the members was Peter Drazak (sp)of Ecohealth Alliance who funded the Wuhan lab virus genetical engineering with grants approved by Dr Faucci and other donors.

Pfizer said they are expecting 26billion from the booster shot.

basilico:
The whole corona vaccine is driven by profit motives. The CDC has all the data about the reactions of people including deaths but they are hiding it
They said the virus can be cleared by the vaccine With Joe Biden looking at 98% vax rate for normalcy to resume.
The virus was a godsend to democrats because they were able to push through mass mailin ballots.
The vaccine news was announced after the election because Trump would have looked good.
Politics, big tech and big pharma money has demonized people and institutions that report on alternative medicines or negative vax efffects.
When the WHO formed a team to investigate the origin of COVID-19 , one of the members was Peter Drazak (sp)of Ecohealth Alliance who funded the Wuhan lab virus genetical engineering with grants approved by Dr Faucci and other donors.

I agree with most of your speculations save the " The CDC has all the data about the reactions of people including deaths but they are hiding it" The CDC is not the only agency in the world dealing with infectious diseases. Every country in the world has its own CDC and they are all basically saying the same thing.

Yes big pharma is profit oriented. So any drug that has some degree of efficacy would be exploited. If hydoxychloroquine was as effective as you guys say, big pharma would exploit it and it would be out of reach of the ordinary people. So no matter the drug, big pharma would still be in control.

What was God sent was not particularly the corona virus, but Trump's handling of the pandemic. He messed up big time. First was denial that the disease even exists, then he praised China handling of the outbreak, then he dismissed its seriousness (just like the common cold), on and on, he was making one blunder after another. If he had handled the pandemic a little better, he might have won.

wirinet:
Sorry I did not see the evidence. Please provide me with the said evidence so I can verify myself.

Change which definition? You mean the definition of vaccine should be changed to suit your purpose?

No. You explaination of vaccine does not fit the definition of vaccine.


You said this

It only prepares your antibodies to fight off actual infection after it occurs.

That's not how vaccine works. You are aware there are various kinds of vaccine.


All the bolded below clearly contradict your understanding of how vaccine works. If you were talking of the covid 19 vaccine specifically person for try understand

Vaccines prevent diseases that can be dangerous, or even deadly. Vaccines greatly reduce the risk of infection by working with the body’s natural defenses to safely develop immunity to disease. This fact sheet explains how the body fights infection and how vaccines work to protect people by producing immunity.

wirinet:
I agree with most of your speculations save the " The CDC has all the data about the reactions of people including deaths but they are hiding it" The CDC is not the only agency in the world dealing with infectious diseases. Every country in the world has its own CDC and they are all basically saying the same thing.

Yes big pharma is profit oriented. So any drug that has some degree of efficacy would be exploited. If hydoxychloroquine was as effective as you guys say, big pharma would exploit it and it would be out of reach of the ordinary people. So no matter the drug, big pharma would still be in control.

What was God sent was not particularly the corona virus, but Trump's handling of the pandemic. He messed up big time. First was denial that the disease even exists, then he praised China handling of the outbreak, then he dismissed its seriousness (just like the common cold), on and on, he was making one blunder after another. If he had handled the pandemic a little better, he might have won.

Ivermectin kit has reduced infection and hospitalization as well as death in India, Mexico etc. They have been attacking it because they are working on their own.

If you read the reasons why Australia is banning ivermectin you go laugh.

The tens of thousands of lies. How people even support this son of the devil is beyond me. Hitler also had supporters.
I was wondering why Trump White House was trending on twitter.

CULTURE OF DISHONESTY :

Exclusive: Stephanie Grisham says 'I regret' enabling culture of dishonesty in Trump White House.
Stephanie Grisham describes the Trump White House as 'a clown car on fire running at full speed into a warehouse full of fireworks'

https://abcnews.go.com/US/stephanie-grisham-regret-enabling-culture-dishonesty-trump-white/story?id=80392650

There is even more.

A Former Trump white house aide called on Trump to ''come clean about his health. I don't know if he will even be healthy enough to run in 2024."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/575130-omarosa-manigault-trump-may-not-even-be-healthy-enough-to-run-in-2024

Pfizer and BioNTech announced Monday their coronavirus vaccine was more than 90% effective in preventing Covid-19 among those without evidence of prior infection, hailing the development as “a great day for science and humanity.”


The above was a big lie told to the public. They were hesitant to let the vaxxed stop masking and dining. Fauci even advised to double the mask... They big pharma started talking about booster shuts before the socalled delta variant shows up. Which is just the Indian strain

wirinet:
I agree with most of your speculations save the " The CDC has all the data about the reactions of people including deaths but they are hiding it" The CDC is not the only agency in the world dealing with infectious diseases. Every country in the world has its own CDC and they are all basically saying the same thing.

Yes big pharma is profit oriented. So any drug that has some degree of efficacy would be exploited. If hydoxychloroquine was as effective as you guys say, big pharma would exploit it and it would be out of reach of the ordinary people. So no matter the drug, big pharma would still be in control.

What was God sent was not particularly the corona virus, but Trump's handling of the pandemic. He messed up big time. First was denial that the disease even exists, then he praised China handling of the outbreak, then he dismissed its seriousness (just like the common cold), on and on, he was making one blunder after another. If he had handled the pandemic a little better, he might have won.

Was Trump handling the corona. He had a task force headed by Pence and Faucci on board. Shut down travel to China they smeared him racist. Sent hospital ship to York and Commiefornis they never used it. Called it Wuhan virus And they smeared him racist as if Spanish flu was not
I can go on and on. They called COVID-19 Trumps Katrina.

Since this is America thread, CDC has a VAER website that they stopped updating. To cover for big pharma. Last I checked a source they had 15k deaths two three moons ago. The vaccines are safe and big tech will cancel you if you are of a different opinion.
HCL and Ivermectin are dirt cheap . Not good for big pharma who are trialling a new protease inhibitor drug that IVM and HCL do.

Snrman1:
https://westafricaweekly.substack.com/p/cornflakes-for-jihad-the-boko-haram

The clown is in Ethiopia telling them to embrace peace when his own country is struggling with maintaining the same peace he is preaching far from home.

https://www.nairaland.com/6786076/buhari-urges-peace-stability-ethiopia

https://www.nairaland.com/6785950/boko-haram-fixes-marital-age

https://www.nairaland.com/6785803/army-launches-exercise-golden-dawn

Enugurangers:
The tens of thousands of lies. How people even support this son of the devil is beyond me. Hitler also had supporters.
I was wondering why Trump White House was trending on twitter.

CULTURE OF DISHONESTY :

Exclusive: Stephanie Grisham says 'I regret' enabling culture of dishonesty in Trump White House.
Stephanie Grisham describes the Trump White House as 'a clown car on fire running at full speed into a warehouse full of fireworks'

https://abcnews.go.com/US/stephanie-grisham-regret-enabling-culture-dishonesty-trump-white/story?id=80392650

So terrible.Worse than an earthquake.
Read this in your free time

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/29/gordon-klein-professor-suspended-refusing-give-bla/

basilico:
So terrible.Worse than an earthquake.
Read this in your free time

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/29/gordon-klein-professor-suspended-refusing-give-bla/

What has the above got to do with the topic I posted. You are one funny man Lol.

I can as well post a reply that Boko Haram just fixed the marital age of girls to 12 years old in reply to your antivaxx posts, but that won't also make sense.

Don't forget to tell ben that we convinced you to take the vaccination.

basilico:
The whole corona vaccine is driven by profit motives. The CDC has all the data about the reactions of people including deaths but they are hiding it
They said the virus can be cleared by the vaccine With Joe Biden looking at 98% vax rate for normalcy to resume.
The virus was a godsend to democrats because they were able to push through mass mailin ballots.
The vaccine news was announced after the election because Trump would have looked good.
Politics, big tech and big pharma money has demonized people and institutions that report on alternative medicines or negative vax efffects.
When the WHO formed a team to investigate the origin of COVID-19 , one of the members was Peter Drazak (sp)of Ecohealth Alliance who funded the Wuhan lab virus genetical engineering with grants approved by Dr Faucci and other donors.

budaatum:
Don't forget to tell ben that we convinced you to take the vaccination.

I wish I can like this post multiple times.

budaatum:
Don't forget to tell ben that we convinced you to take the vaccination.

Should I like your post. I have never been an antivax. I promoted the vax for hey we are in a plandemic

Enugurangers:
What has the above got to do with the topic I posted. You are one funny man Lol.

I can as well post a reply that Boko Haram just fixed the marital age of girls to 12 years old in reply to your antivaxx posts, but that won't also make sense.

You could be a victim without your knowledge.
Dont mean you but some here are definitely victims, especially some old geezer.

basilico:
You could be a victim without your knowledge.

I think you have missed the afternoon dose of your drugs again.

Enugurangers:
I think you have missed the afternoon dose of your drugs again.

The oba of Lagos offspring has never prescribed what I should imbibe to attain his level of insanity.

basilico:
The oba of Lagos offspring has never prescribed what I should imbibe to attain his level of insanity.

Those deceiving you are not helping you. Your level of insanity is that which is not to be envied.

basilico:
R kelly

What's he waiting for, a medal?

Enugurangers:
Those deceiving you are not helping you. Your level of insanity is that which is not to be envied.

Isi na ya fault. Isi da post abut trumpolini witch Isa knock da apprentice donkey off Isa rockers. Apprentice donkey doktor isa nat going 2b happy wit ya hehehehe

basilico:
Should I like your post. I have never been an antivax. I promoted the vax for hey we are in a plandemic

Don't like my post. Just stop deceiving ben into thinking he should not be vaccinated when you are vaccinated!

budaatum:
Don't like my post. Just stop deceiving ben into thinking he should not be vaccinated when you are vaccinated!

Show me where I said sheeple should not get vaxxed
All me and Ben demand to stonewalls is correct data openly disseminated.
Octogenarian Faucci said herd immunity would be at 60-70% vax rate ,then flip-flops to 80-90%. And appears masked after getting the killer shot
Joe Biden dons a mask in a Zoom call.As if the rona can be converted to an electronic impulse and transmitted to the G7.

basilico:
Show me where I said sheeple should not get vaxxed

You are a very funny individual. Just let ben know you have been vaxxed so he is not confused you are antivax like him.

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budaatum:
You are a very funny individual. Just let ben know you have been vaxxed so he is not confused you are antivax like him.

Kamala Harris. Trump smear.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAjCeMuXR0